Agito Akito Tuner vs Rider thingy

[Seijuro]

Anyways i found a chapter that kind of provides clues as to what might have happened possibly. I know in another thread everyone discusses it but i couldnt figure out which one anymore. Anyways chapter 63 page like 13 or 14 or something around there theres a picture of the two fo them together possible identical twins boy and girl. Riding together. then one fades away into bones. this is during the fight between uduo(old fang king) and agito. I think that during their last fight. Agito and Akito used to be two people tuner and rider brother and sister probably thats when Akito released the regalia and the bloody road probably killed his sister and through some stranger reason the became to people... dont know how but manga tends to have some strange things happen. That's why now they are one person rider and tuner in the same body. And also probably why akito is so aggressive. From the sadness he feels. Also noted he seemed happy in the past. Then sad then upon meeting ikki he could "see the sky again" and like it past we dont know he could also "see the sky" so he is a happier better person. Maybe one day he will finally take off the patch and become one whole person again. The true fang king. or something along those lines. and wow that turned into a freaking long *** post.

[Satralis]

u earned a lot of trcikpoint ^^
but i dont think thats the case :(... cause at that time he was not remembering the past but rahter had an inner conversation with himself where Agito admitted that he is an obsticle to Akito since he lives in him so decides to fade aways...but Ikki saves him in the last moment saying some crap about freedom again and than Akito says that Agito is still needed... so thats not going about the past but the present...

[Seijuro]

not nessecarily often writers use forshadowing where they hint about unknow information before people really know what it means. Personally the trick thing i could really care less about. Up until i posted that i wasnt even entirely sure how you got tricks. Eventually the other will reveal how Akito and Agito are like that. But to provide interest they use forshadowing. Which bring me back to it being a split personality. But still they are probably brother and sister.

[Satralis]

well it is a possibility but than im not really sure, cause Akitos brother never mentioned anything like that, plus in the car where the photos were there werent any of the twins together ...

[kinneth]

They weren't brother or sister.
Agito is just a personality Akito made up to cover his sorrow, and take over his bloody acts. =[
Plus Satra's right, kaito never ever mentions having twins for brothers, or a sister.

[Ayuki]

Exactly.
I think this is how it goes:
In the midst of it all, Akito (the original holder of the body) was 'free' at some point in his life, he thought that he had nothing to worry about until Kaito, his older brother, revealed the reason why Akito was trained hard-core to become what he (or Agito, in the present) is known to be now - an A-class rider on the "Bloody Road". Before Kaito "surprised" his younger brother, Akito had beat someone into a really bloody pulp (probably killed 'em, I am assuming) and was there-after sent into that sphere-cage as an animal (or something). While he was in that cage, I'll presume that Akito was horrified at what had came upon him and happened to summon Agito to "ride" for him.

^ that's the whole story of how Agito came to be (I think).
Although, I am stumped on how the process of a split-personality works. *must research on MPD/bi-polar-ness*

Besides, Agito spoke of "existence" before and also said that he was "born" from Akito in that pool of blood, so... I don't really think the "sibling" thing isn't the case. (just speaking out my theory over here)

Don't know if this is counted as a spoiler, BUT;;;

I'm curious since Akito knows how to "tune"; and he was the (original) Fang king before (and Agito didn't exist before), so doesn't that mean he needed a tuner (in the past), too? I'm guessing his tuner taught him a few stuff about "tuning" and probably moved. Moreover, is it possible for a single person to be King and a tuner?

[Satralis]

yes thats definitly a spoiler since the scanlations havent gotten that far...thats why it is
u can put the spoiler box there by using the [s p o i l e r] [/ s p o i l e r]commands (without the spaces of course)

about the theory u have: its prolly the closest to reality. I think thats it was something like that, but the fact that Akito was the king and than Agito was a replacement who could take on the darker side of the AT world is very confusing when u consider the way their memories are and the fact that Agito is weaker than Akito O.o

[krompt]

Exactly.
I think this is how it goes:
In the midst of it all, Akito (the original holder of the body) was 'free' at some point in his life, he thought that he had nothing to worry about until Kaito, his older brother, revealed the reason why Akito was trained hard-core to become what he (or Agito, in the present) is known to be now - an A-class rider on the "Bloody Road". Before Kaito "surprised" his younger brother, Akito had beat someone into a really bloody pulp (probably killed 'em, I am assuming) and was there-after sent into that sphere-cage as an animal (or something). While he was in that cage, I'll presume that Akito was horrified at what had came upon him and happened to summon Agito to "ride" for him.

^ that's the whole story of how Agito came to be (I think).
Although, I am stumped on how the process of a split-personality works. *must research on MPD/bi-polar-ness*

Besides, Agito spoke of "existence" before and also said that he was "born" from Akito in that pool of blood, so... I don't really think the "sibling" thing isn't the case. (just speaking out my theory over here)

Don't know if this is counted as a spoiler, BUT;;;

I'm curious since Akito knows how to "tune"; and he was the (original) Fang king before (and Agito didn't exist before), so doesn't that mean he needed a tuner (in the past), too? I'm guessing his tuner taught him a few stuff about "tuning" and probably moved. Moreover, is it possible for a single person to be King and a tuner?


Yeah those are spoilers, luckily most of the people active here know that already XD.
I also agree with the Akito as the tuner theory, i believe that he had a tuner but learned to tune himself after his sudden seclusion from everyone else. He did not want to depend on anyone but himself which is one of the reasons he got a split personality.

[Ayuki]

yes thats definitly a spoiler since the scanlations havent gotten that far...thats why it is
u can put the spoiler box there by using the [s p o i l e r] [/ s p o i l e r]commands (without the spaces of course)

about the theory u have: its prolly the closest to reality. I think thats it was something like that, but the fact that Akito was the king and than Agito was a replacement who could take on the darker side of the AT world is very confusing when u consider the way their memories are and the fact that Agito is weaker than Akito O.o

Yeah, I agree with you at some point because Akito is significantly stronger (since Agito desperately needed Akito's help during the "Behemoth" match); and the fact that he was "better than a lot of people in A-Ts" would put people in curiosity of how could a "FANG KING" of the Bloody Road could be 'scared' of such things of practically neutering someone (and could probably [or most likely] beat up Kaito). But then again, that is all in the mental state of mind - and let's not forget, his older brother (the only family he has, by far) took care of him, and to be in his shoes and to find out that Kaito used you as a "tool" (all along) would be shocking.

Yeah those are spoilers, luckily most of the people active here know that already XD.
I also agree with the Akito as the tuner theory, i believe that he had a tuner but learned to tune himself after his sudden seclusion from everyone else. He did not want to depend on anyone but himself which is one of the reasons he got a split personality.


Hm, never thought about it that way - that Akito is somewhat of a "loner" (but that's SO cute!).
Eh, I had a question at the tip of my tongue... but I forgot. =_=''
I'm bored.

XDDD Okay, I've already spoiler-taggified my other post.

[stealth]

NOooo!!! Akito/agito were a single person before the eyepatch. the two different names are just a split personality that developed. there was no 'girl' tuner called akito that died or anything.

[stealth]

also..look in the raws around 170-172 it shows akito tuning his regalia.

[Satralis]

thats a spoiler too... but as Krompt said most of us already saw the raws...
anyways its not about him being both but that at a point Akito was alone and than came Agito in the picture...
what interests me is why Kaito was so laid-back about his 2 personality brother? i mean thats not so common but he used him like a swithcable killing maschine...

[Ayuki]

That's true, I guess Kaito is twisted in that way?
Kaito has a twisted personality in what he says, anyways. Like, his words have hidden meanings -- like in that time when Kaito was in his huge hummer and encountered Ikki, Ringo, & Akito while they were walking to school. He was all like, "I missed you" and then in back of those texts were "When you come back, I'll beat you up." or something like that. XDDD

On the other side, Kaito really hated stormriders, so maybe that kind of blinded him from the fact that there was something weird (or wrong) going on in Akito's head; and the other fact that he saw Akito as a killing-tool (or rather, Agito as the tool). He needs to have his brotherly instincts kick in more, really. <,<''

[Satralis]

well anyways in the end we know that his a good guy since he let Akito go, and Kazu too so no problem with that...and he spoke to killik too in a rahter nice manner

[kinneth]

He's a stubborn sibling, I'd say. He can use him all he wants, and treat him, Akito & Akito, like dirt; but it'sonly human for family members to forgive one another and so on.
Or then again, Kaito is just one of those mentall ****ed up people who blame the rest, and take it out on people, in this case Akito. D:

[Ayuki]

Haha, yeah, I love that dude's pants. They are so... I don't know, very flashy in a disco-pop way. ^o^ I could just imagine Kaito-sensei disco his way in a fight. XD Crud, I'm getting even more bizarre thoughts. <,<''

EDIT: WOOOOW, Kin-chan. O_O
Eh, both choices of 'em are good, but I am leaning more to that mental-thing with the anger-management stuff. Akito is too sweet to his older brother. <,<- It's cute.

[kinneth]

Haha, yeah, I love that dude's pants. They are so... I don't know, very flashy in a disco-pop way. ^o^ I could just imagine Kaito-sensei disco his way in a fight. XD Crud, I'm getting even more bizarre thoughts. <,<''

HAHAHA, All the Wind people from his special ops are funky.
They look like they came from all over the place.
And he's just .. sassy.

[Ayuki]

OH, YUSH! That's right! Like that "cow-boy" lady and that "wanna-be" Sherlock Holmes guy. O,o''
Man, I'd like to start a uber secret organization like that someday. >,>

[kinneth]

LET'S DO IT. 8D
And well, I live with a Bi-polar sibling myself.
A BROTHER, TOO.
Haha, So I'm famaliar very many mental disorders and how they work.

[Satralis]

is that a mental disorder?
well actually i dunno what to call it but..really?

[kinneth]

Yes, Bi-polar is a mental disorder.
And so is a split personality.

[Satralis]

Ow i see :(
but not as bad as Dawn syndrome...i hope

[kinneth]

Down*
I'd say they're both on the same level.

[Satralis]

thats sound awful :( than ur well aquinted with these things though its not a happy relationship

[kinneth]

Unfortunately. Haha.

[Seijuro]

I havent looked ahead at the raws at all lately so i really had know idea about any of that i was just kind of putting something out there. But cleary i was wrong. As for Bi-Polar syndrome. That affects your hormones right. It cause large mood swings almost to the point where the person could be seen as two different people. Its kind of like extreme PMS all the time. I thought there was drugs people could take to limit those mood swings but they often cause the person to enter an almost catatonic state. As for split personality. I havent read much about it. Down syndrome affects the communication and mobility part of hte brain. Minor cases of it where people just slur their words where is more extreme cases they cant really talk at all or walk much. The neat thing about down syndrome is it doesnt actually affect their intellect. Some with down syndrome are actually very smart once they over come the communication barrier. Is some wiht a split personalitys often confused with schiznophrenia(hope i it spelled right.) Well theres my 2 cents about medical problems.

[Satralis]

Ahm actually i thought that the Down syndrome is lesseining the patients understanding of the surroundings thus makes it difficult to learn so its not just a communications problem...i guess i was wrong O.o

[kinneth]

I havent looked ahead at the raws at all lately so i really had know idea about any of that i was just kind of putting something out there. But cleary i was wrong. As for Bi-Polar syndrome. That affects your hormones right. It cause large mood swings almost to the point where the person could be seen as two different people. Its kind of like extreme PMS all the time. I thought there was drugs people could take to limit those mood swings but they often cause the person to enter an almost catatonic state. As for split personality. I havent read much about it. Down syndrome affects the communication and mobility part of hte brain. Minor cases of it where people just slur their words where is more extreme cases they cant really talk at all or walk much. The neat thing about down syndrome is it doesnt actually affect their intellect. Some with down syndrome are actually very smart once they over come the communication barrier. Is some wiht a split personalitys often confused with schiznophrenia(hope i it spelled right.) Well theres my 2 cents about medical problems.

I've never seen/heard of someone confusing those two disorders. D:
Schizophernia is like: horrific illusions, voices out of nowhere, hard to distinguish between fantasy and reality, hallucinations, and etc. etc. Split personality disorder doesn't bring all that in the package. It just mostly like an issue of self esteem, that creates another personality, in my opnion. Need to brush on on SP disorder. DX

[meanlilkitty]

In truth, I don't believe that Kaito is really Agito/Akito's blood brother. I think he raised him, and for that reason he care for the boy somewhat, but that might also explain why it was so easy for Kaito to use him like that. I don't know, I think it makes sense. In the anime, which I know is different from the manga, Kaito says something about Ak/gito being an egg??? It was never explained in the anime though. It just made me think in that direction, and it's quite possible. I mean, we know there was another research facility because of Rika and her sisters. That's where they possibly came from, so maybe they're all gravity children from the other lab. I'm fairly certain that it's part of Ikki's background, it could be Ag/kito's too?

Some things don't make sense though, like why Rika was the only one with her own regalia. I mean, if her sisters and Ikki are gravity children, why don't they have regalia of their own. It's not a completely sound theory as of yet, I'll just have to wait to find out more. There's really so many ways they could go with any of it, and in manga it's usually a way you never would have guessed.

That's just my opinion any way, and as far as Akito being Agito's tuner, I think it makes perfect sense. Who would know Agito's body better than Akito? It's totally possible that there was someone else in the beginning, it would explain how he knows about it. Hmm, I don't know, isn't tuning sort of a special kind a gift, like being a musician ? Yeah, you can learn it, but you kind of need to have that way of thinking to begin with, that streak in you, an ear for it.

[Hyuver]

In truth, I don't believe that Kaito is really Agito/Akito's blood brother. I think he raised him, and for that reason he care for the boy somewhat, but that might also explain why it was so easy for Kaito to use him like that. I don't know, I think it makes sense. In the anime, which I know is different from the manga, Kaito says something about Ak/gito being an egg??? It was never explained in the anime though. It just made me think in that direction, and it's quite possible. I mean, we know there was another research facility because of Rika and her sisters. That's where they possibly came from, so maybe they're all gravity children from the other lab. I'm fairly certain that it's part of Ikki's background, it could be Ag/kito's too?

Some things don't make sense though, like why Rika was the only one with her own regalia. I mean, if her sisters and Ikki are gravity children, why don't they have regalia of their own. It's not a completely sound theory as of yet, I'll just have to wait to find out more. There's really so many ways they could go with any of it, and in manga it's usually a way you never would have guessed.

About rika I think her regalia is given to her by Ikki father, about why the other doesn't own a regalia might because at that time they are just too small to handle such a destructive weapon.
Beside maybe that Uncle Minami doesn't have intention of using the children as a soldier or whatever... like what happens to Kilik and the others at the lab, if he want to raise them like Kilik and the others he should let Ikki and the others to grow in the facility like kilik

[meanlilkitty]

Yeah, it could very well be something like that. Maybe it went against his moral standards. I can't wait to see what happens with that, how it plays out. We know there was another facility, but there's been no other mention of it as of yet, it's a mystery. I'm gonna be really disappointed if they don't explain it more, if it doesn't have some kind of significance.

[vogirl]

Exactly.
I think this is how it goes:
In the midst of it all, Akito (the original holder of the body) was 'free' at some point in his life, he thought that he had nothing to worry about until Kaito, his older brother, revealed the reason why Akito was trained hard-core to become what he (or Agito, in the present) is known to be now - an A-class rider on the "Bloody Road". Before Kaito "surprised" his younger brother, Akito had beat someone into a really bloody pulp (probably killed 'em, I am assuming) and was there-after sent into that sphere-cage as an animal (or something). While he was in that cage, I'll presume that Akito was horrified at what had came upon him and happened to summon Agito to "ride" for him.



yeah because i forget what chapter it was but they were talking about how his personality was split...i dont think agito//akito were two people, agito was created to take the pain for akito...because i remember him saying "i'll fight for you" to akito
:[ really sad but yeah...you can tell agito really loves his akito side

[Ayuki]

In truth, I don't believe that Kaito is really Agito/Akito's blood brother. I think he raised him, and for that reason he care for the boy somewhat, but that might also explain why it was so easy for Kaito to use him like that. I don't know, I think it makes sense. In the anime, which I know is different from the manga, Kaito says something about Ak/gito being an egg??? It was never explained in the anime though. It just made me think in that direction, and it's quite possible. I mean, we know there was another research facility because of Rika and her sisters. That's where they possibly came from, so maybe they're all gravity children from the other lab. I'm fairly certain that it's part of Ikki's background, it could be Ag/kito's too?

Some things don't make sense though, like why Rika was the only one with her own regalia. I mean, if her sisters and Ikki are gravity children, why don't they have regalia of their own. It's not a completely sound theory as of yet, I'll just have to wait to find out more. There's really so many ways they could go with any of it, and in manga it's usually a way you never would have guessed.

That's just my opinion any way, and as far as Akito being Agito's tuner, I think it makes perfect sense. Who would know Agito's body better than Akito? It's totally possible that there was someone else in the beginning, it would explain how he knows about it. Hmm, I don't know, isn't tuning sort of a special kind a gift, like being a musician ? Yeah, you can learn it, but you kind of need to have that way of thinking to begin with, that streak in you, an ear for it.

As for your small "theory", I think Akito/Agito is really Kaito's brother.
If I remember, in one of the chapters (like, inbetween Chapter 140-155, I forgot, so sue me), when Agito created the "fang" and threw it to Kururu & Ikki - he states this: "recognize the Wanijima blood, but do not challenge it". So, when he said "Wanijima blood", that must mean that Akito definitely has the same blood, y' know.

But, I'd definitely love to see or read more about Akito (and a little bit of Agito), since he's still a mystery, kinda. <,<'' I don't know... Agito seems kind of fishy to me, in a way (and I like it!). XDDD

[Satralis]

Yeah, it could very well be something like that. Maybe it went against his moral standards. I can't wait to see what happens with that, how it plays out. We know there was another facility, but there's been no other mention of it as of yet, it's a mystery. I'm gonna be really disappointed if they don't explain it more, if it doesn't have some kind of significance.

well there has to be another laboratory cause...wel Nue and co. are prolly from there. As to where Ikki and the 3 sisters came its unknown, as well as this Uncle Minami guy who only left a name and 4 kids (and prolly some cash:D) to Rika and vanished..prolly we will see him sometimes cause he could do a lot of explanation.
About Agito/Akito, hes nit a grav kid i think and the egg metaphore was more like stating that Akito is gonna be a spy in time or sg like that...

OH and meanlilkitty...pls sign in into the "Girls vs. Guyz" thread in general section to keep the forum updated xD :D *almost dies of excitement*

[meanlilkitty]

As for your small "theory", I think Akito/Agito is really Kaito's brother.
If I remember, in one of the chapters (like, inbetween Chapter 140-155, I forgot, so sue me), when Agito created the "fang" and threw it to Kururu & Ikki - he states this: "recognize the Wanijima blood, but do not challenge it". So, when he said "Wanijima blood", that must mean that Akito definitely has the same blood, y' know.

But, I'd definitely love to see or read more about Akito (and a little bit of Agito), since he's still a mystery, kinda. <,<'' I don't know... Agito seems kind of fishy to me, in a way (and I like it!). XDDD

Yeah, it very well could be that way, but either way I'm sure Ak/gito thinks he's his brother, even if he's not I don't think he'd know about it. I don't know though, those anime/manga writers like to throw in those plot twist that take a complete 180 plot twist, it's quite unpredictable.

Okay, I'll go post in there.

[kageonizuka]

in a later issue i believe in the 150 akito is asked who his tuner is and he points to the eye that agito uses and he says "i already have a tuner" refering to agito

Anyways i found a chapter that kind of provides clues as to what might have happened possibly. I know in another thread everyone discusses it but i couldnt figure out which one anymore. Anyways chapter 63 page like 13 or 14 or something around there theres a picture of the two fo them together possible identical twins boy and girl. Riding together. then one fades away into bones. this is during the fight between uduo(old fang king) and agito. I think that during their last fight. Agito and Akito used to be two people tuner and rider brother and sister probably thats when Akito released the regalia and the bloody road probably killed his sister and through some stranger reason the became to people... dont know how but manga tends to have some strange things happen. That's why now they are one person rider and tuner in the same body. And also probably why akito is so aggressive. From the sadness he feels. Also noted he seemed happy in the past. Then sad then upon meeting ikki he could "see the sky again" and like it past we dont know he could also "see the sky" so he is a happier better person. Maybe one day he will finally take off the patch and become one whole person again. The true fang king. or something along those lines. and wow that turned into a freaking long *** post.

[blabla123]

My Thought:
The real body is agito, and under agito's sorrow, akito was created. But with a (insert random thing here) their memories fused up. And agito remembers himself as the one who's being created. :D (but don't mind that just my thought lol)

My thought the 2nd:
They're both a GC and was fused up, next is (random)