D.Gray-Man

[stealth]

just thought we should have a D.Gray-man thread. btw. what does D.Gray-Man stand for? cant find a connection between it and "excorcists" or anything like that...i just got up to the chapter where Allen gets his new innocence form, the 'crowned clown'...looks awsome, and getting more exciting.

[krompt]

Awesome manga, i dont really do the anime and i have no idea whet the name stands for, maybe becuase Allen is gray all the time :D

[playsafe]

Probably got the gray form the hair(from allen walker). I have no idea where D comes in to play, but i think Gray man is kind of straightforward. Sort of. Well i love this series too but nothing can top Air Gear:D
Maybe the word for "D" will come at the end of the series. I hope there would be a good reason for the "D"... because now it is irritating me too.

[krompt]

Probably got the gray form the hair(from allen walker). I have no idea where D comes in to play, but i think Gray man is kind of straightforward. Sort of. Well i love this series too but nothing can top Air Gear:D
Maybe the word for "D" will come at the end of the series. I hope there would be a good reason for the "D"... because now it is irritating me too.


It might be the legendary one piece "will of D" theory XD

[playsafe]

that sounds... so reasonable that it doesn't make sense. Most likely be a "D" word at the end of the story. Rofls.
Lol... krompt, you respond too fast.

[kinneth]

Or maybe D stands for " THE " ..THE GRAY MAN.
LOLOL. I'd say.

[Yumemi]

Hoshino (the mangaka) said that she made it out of thin air and that it has a lot of meanings, it has Something to do with Allen and the other characters too...ah and the names before that were: "Dolls", "Kuronowa" (Dark Noah) and "Zone".
It is in a faq in vol.3 cap 17

[Seijuro]

I liked D.Gray man for the first chapters until the got into the ark no i find they seem to be dragging it out. I think the D is like someone sin in da house. LOL DGray man.

[sakiru]

D.Gray-man is my fandom. @o@;; I love it to death.

Random note: "Zone" is actually a one-shot manga done before D.Gray-man. It was similar, and is somewhat of a prototype. The main character was Robin, who looks exactly like Allen, except it's a girl.

"Robin's" was one of the original concept names for D.Gure as well, since Robin herself (possibly turned male) was going to be the main character.

Another interesting note: Lavi was the main character of another seires by Hoshino, Bookman, which never made it to publication. But Hoshino loved him so much that he got recycled into D.Gure.

[Satralis]

wow u sure know a lot ^^
btw actually i finished cathing up with the manga recently and the new weapon is sure is awsome.
And i think too that "D" can stand for "the" and grey is a mixture of black and white which can refer to Allen's being...or not.

[sakiru]

During the Crowley arc, when Allen's eye started to work again, the akuma-like skull that appeared had a "D" on it. That may or may not have any singificance now. XD But if it does, it may explain the title a little more later on.

[Seijuro]

has anyone else found that they are just kind of stretching out this last battle. It just keeps going and going. I am actually get kind of annoyed with the noahs's ark ark. Haha ark ark. Well thats just my opinion. But i do like Allens master came that was cool. Maybe next weeks chapter will be better.

[sakiru]

I'm hoping they wrap up this arc soon as well. I was long expecting Cross to show up, so I'm glad he did, but other than that yet, it's getting too drawn out. Perhaps the author is still gathering his/her thoughts for the next arc, or doing research (this manga is rather interestingly well-researched in places you wouldn't think it would be)? I think it's likely that the next arc is still in planning as Hoshino tries to figure out where he/she wants the story to go, and he/she is avoiding a hiatus.

Also, I randomly hate how Hoshi refuses to reveal his/her gender. XD; Augh.

[smoosh]

hoshino is a she aint it? i thought it was confirmed already?:confused: but anyways i hope the manga would show like cross seriously killing allen after the ark for being useless :D hahas that would be hilarious...but i cant wait to see allen become a general i mean like its taking F-O-R-E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!

[Hyuver]

The manga is good until the time they got into japan, the whole noah ark is crap....

[Satralis]

that will surely be interesting...
And i would lso like to know what happenes to Crawly and Yue...

[smoosh]

i hope they didnt die i like Yuu :(... hmm well the noah ark is kinda draggy that i agree but you gotta admit how much research hoshino does and the drawing is consistent too..but well who am i to comment i still think air gear is the best! the storyline is never dull and if so it makes up with the awesome details and drawings!!! :D

[Satralis]

D-grayman has that particular habit of "last minute return"...u can always see them getting beat up badly, than u see them half-dead and just when everything is over ta-daa there is ur newly born, stronger-than-ever mega hero without a scratch. Although here it applies to the enemy too :D so its not that one-sided. I like how much drama it has though, and how it describes the Noah family as a loving, well balanced family while they are such monsters. It somehow resembles the human nature to protect only whats important to you. And i also like the idea of that sorrow thing and how the system works (the Earls reviving strategy). It really gives a bitter taste to Akumas.

[smoosh]

well chapter 168 was kick *** ^^ cross-sama!~ i love his anti-akuma weapons....who knew he was that good? :D hahahas i think i see the end of this ark soon~

[Katsuomori]

I've seen the Noak's Ark which does looked ridiculus...

But I did read the part where General Cross came to help Allen to fight with the Awakened Tiki. They looked funny together and his Anti- Akuma weapon look crazy cool.

[Satralis]

yea but that dead woman with parasitic anti-akuma weapon is a bit off for me...it ruins some good man image ^^

[Katsuomori]

The forbidden which isn't forbidden as said by Allen... using a corpse and a part of Anti- Akuma from General Cross... the Grave of Maria. He has an Anti- Akuma gun called Judgement.

[godslafco]

Is 128 the latest scanlation of this series? I've watched a few of the epi of the anime, but a lot of people have been saying the manga is better, so I want to know how much I have to catch up before I start anything.

[Satralis]

yea the current latest scanlated is 128...

and well the forbidden which isnt forbidden is off for mee too...i mean i dont think there is such a thing that is forbidden and allowed at the same time O.o

[smoosh]

well yea the manga is better than the anime which has too many fillers. Like around 20 so far i think. i lost count..anyways i stopped watching the anime, sticking to the manga :D

[Katsuomori]

I don't really know that how the Grave of Maria was made is an forbidden art... well anyway... I haven't seen the anime so I don't know if the manga is much better than the anime (which I think it should be).

[smoosh]

The manga is definately better. The grave of maria is probably a forbidden art cause it uses a corpse to make it i guess. I prefer the gun muahahahaha:D

[Satralis]

especially with the homing bullets :D
one thing is sure...Lavi and that other guy as well as the other two from earlier...will all survive ^^

[smoosh]

i thought they fell through the hole? when lavi's hammer broke? i mean lavi and chaoji

[Katsuomori]

Lavi's hammer broke when Allen tries to reach him. So Lavi fell into the hole with Chaoji. Hope that they are okay.

General Cross's Judgement has bullets that acts like a homing missles. It'll keep attacting it's target until it pierces through the target.

I don't understand about the sudden appearences of Earl of Millennium. He is holding a sword which Allen held during his Omega form of his innocence?

[smoosh]

yep its the same but its like if allen's sword is light, his is the dark version...

He came to retrieve tyki i guess..

Hopefully i dont want lavi to die noooooooooooooooooooo >.< kanda too!

[Katsuomori]

You know... after reading a few more chapters... I was wondering... what is the connection between Allen and that Akuma Traitor, who was responsible of the fall of the first Noah's ark? Who is that traitor (Mentioned by the Earl of Millinium) anyway?

[smoosh]

Akuma traitor? who's that was it mentioned?

[Katsuomori]

^In one of the chapters, Earl mentioned a traitor among the Akumas. That akuma is a Noah and has a key to the Noah's Ark. That traitor gave that key to the humans thus the first Noah's Ark was destroyed. Now, the Earl made a list of who was connected to that akuma to Tyki. Allen was one of the ones listed in that list (which lead to why his innocence was destroyed by Tyki). I don't know that person may be... probably someone whom Allen might be connected to or perhaps not. Besides, Allen was adopted by Mana Walker before being taken in by General Cross (love to see them together again) so that means that Allen must have a real father of whom he might not know of.

[smoosh]

woah that sounds cool. And yes totally agree to the allen and general cross pairing :D They are totally hilarious together XDD

[Katsuomori]

Especially when he said that he hates all flithy things (especially his diciple) that he tells them to stay away from him... all except girls. I have a brief idea why Allen was rather afraid of him... not to mention that he had to pay all the General Cross expenses eventhough they are out of cash. Solution? Allen is good at poker (cause he's good at cheating) which he's kind of scary when comes to card games like poker. In the end, he would ended up winning.

[lycannick]

the list tyki had wasn't that a list of the people who might be connected to the "heart"

[Satralis]

Well if they paired up again it would be a bit different now i think. Cause (based on the anime) if Cross would again get Allen into a fight with Akumas he would manage somehow. And also dont forget that Allen was already through a lot when he got to figh with Tyki and got beaten up quite a bit till he could activate his Anti akuma weapons true form. Cross just stepped in all healthy...its not that i say that Allen is as strong as Cross i just say that it would be a little different from back than (i hope)

Also the Earls sword is the exact reverse of Allens sword which of course would mean that he and the earl are exact opposits and are destined to face eaxh other in a final battle...hmm how surprising...

And i think that everyone will make it out alive cause its not that kind of manga... also the mass execution of main characters are quite rare if the story is not at its peak.

[smoosh]

yep true. if they all died the manga/mangaka would lose popularity...Plus ratings will go down the draing :D...hahas..

No manga for 5 weeks?! I hate that...cause the mangaka is sick...why?! :(

[Katsuomori]

The mangaka probably wants to take some time off to get some ideas for the next few chapters for D-Gray Man. Him being sick would most likely be just an excuse for the fans.

[smoosh]

I thought it was a her?! :confused:

[Katsuomori]

I thought it was a her?! :confused:

Sorry... my mistake lol :D

[smoosh]

Yea i guess its a common misconception cause she never really did show herself in public before. And everyone expects that since the manga is so good and has lots of fighting in it, that it was drawn by a guy mangaka :D

[Katsuomori]

^Yeah, most mangaka's never show themselves in public but instead uses drawings or initial avatars to represent themselves. I hardly know whethet if they're male or female just looking at that. I have no idea what gender is Oh!Great is... maybe male? :D

[Satralis]

Yea i think that OG is male...
And i heared that D-gray mans drawer is a woman. But that doesnt change anything, only that D-Gray man wont have any ecchi scenes :( ^^

[Katsuomori]

^True... but at least the story line is good... well, it's moving a little towards boring road but it's still entertains me. Awww... I can't wait for the next chapter which might be out after the mangaka is done with her break. I think she needs it.

[smoosh]

another 3-4 weeks..im counting down the days!!

[Katsuomori]

lol... now let's get back to the D-Gray man subject... about that Noah that opposes the Earl and the other Noahs... sounds like DMC where Sparda went against his own kind eh? :rolleyes:

[Satralis]

dunno DMC, but it only shows that there are always other opinions...and apparently as mentioned before they might have somethig to do with Allen-kun, or Linali...i mean the animes ending hints that she has some serious role in the ending of the war.

[Katsuomori]

dunno DMC, but it only shows that there are always other opinions...and apparently as mentioned before they might have somethig to do with Allen-kun, or Linali...i mean the animes ending hints that she has some serious role in the ending of the war.

Perhaps, she's the heart? Nah, it can't be... unless she has two innocence inside her.

[smoosh]

it would be weird for her to be the heart. but not impossible i guess.. but it could be allen too O.O...the mangaka doesnt really give away much!!

[Katsuomori]

Maybe... maybe Allen is the key to the previous Noah's Ark as Linali is the heart? I don't know... I have the feeling that Linali or Allen is suitable of becoming the host for the Heart.

[smoosh]

yep seems like it..i guess the mangaka is still deciding to put who up for that role? or maybe she just wants to leave us in suspense LOL

[Katsuomori]

I just like Linali and Allen-kun to be together... it's nice that way... well in a romantic way though Linali is older than Allen by a year or so? O.O'??

[smoosh]

ahahahaha yea..but she's not taller than him right?! XD cause that would be a bit weird....

[Katsuomori]

But still they really are a matching couple right? I mean... Linali really shows some concerns for him. Though her brother doesn;t like anyone to touch her other than himself.

[smoosh]

yep i agree ^^..plus they look cute together ..hahas and imagine the amount of protest komui's going to give XD

[Katsuomori]

yep i agree ^^..plus they look cute together ..hahas and imagine the amount of protest komui's going to give XD

Hahaha... anyway... there's someone who has a crush on Linali as well... this means... a rival love for Allen-kun.

[smoosh]

who?! what? how come i didnt know this?!!!!

[Katsuomori]

^ Well, if you happen to read the manga... you'll know what I mean.

[smoosh]

i do read the manga!! but i dont know who!!!! argh!!!!!!! ohh wait..i know...the guy in china!!!

[Katsuomori]

Ding ding ding!!! Correct it's him... the director of China Branch. He has a crush on Linali of which he had a hard time going through Komui because of that.

[smoosh]

YES!! im am soo smart XD LOL...back to the subject..the manga will only be released in another...2 more weeks?!!

who's your favourtie D.gray man character? Me, i like general cross sama and tyki XD

[Katsuomori]

I like Allen- kun because of his humours especially when he is very good at gambling (his poker secrets are very slick). His ability and especially his atitude is very admirable like he never gives up when he's in disadvantage and always optimistic every time (even during harsh times). He likes to give some couragement to his comrades and often defends the weak (includes his comrades as well).

I do like General Cross as well because of his cool Anti-Akuma weapons. I think that he has more than just that to defeat an akuma. Plus he is capable to manipulate an akuma and make it to be one of his ally. Cool...

Still... I do like him and Cross-sama to be together... they look funny when they were together. ^^

[smoosh]

yep yep. XD hahas. no new chapter..this thread is becoming dull...but anyways since the manga is on hold. what about the anime? i think it has too many fillers >.<

[Katsuomori]

Hahaha... well, unfortunately... I haven't been watching the anime but instead read the manga. I think you do know why. ^^

Yeah, this thread is getting dull and not much to talk about this anime now... furthermore I'm kinda aching to read the next chapter.

[smoosh]

i just read the latest chapter!!! DAMN IT it was good ^^ hahas or maybe because i didnt read it for too long that's why i thought it was great. I got to see cross sama~~ ohhh and it left me drooling for more!! i mean what happened to the rest of the exorcists since earl said that this place was no longer able to function. Plus what mission was cross talking about!?! ARRHHHH soo many questions >.<

[Katsuomori]

i just read the latest chapter!!! DAMN IT it was good ^^ hahas or maybe because i didnt read it for too long that's why i thought it was great. I got to see cross sama~~ ohhh and it left me drooling for more!! i mean what happened to the rest of the exorcists since earl said that this place was no longer able to function. Plus what mission was cross talking about!?! ARRHHHH soo many questions >.<

I don't really know which chap are you talking about... it'll go and check it out what happened. Yeah, General Cross is cool. ^^

[smoosh]

im talking about the latest chapter 130 ^^ whooooo~~~

[Katsuomori]

^Oh that chapter... that I've seen that a some while ago. ^^ I told you there was a Noah that betrayed Earl before but I didn't know who that was. Musician he say? The fourteenth Noah... hmmm interesting... can't wait to see the next chapter. ^^

[smoosh]

O.O that chapter was just out last sunday...but anyways yes i do know but im dying to find out his identity!! LOL

[Katsuomori]

O.O that chapter was just out last sunday...but anyways yes i do know but im dying to find out his identity!! LOL

I know... I read raw scans (cause I'm a bit impatient about it even though it's in Jap). Yeah, I can't wait to find out who's that Musician is... sounds like Mana Walker to me. I don't know... I think I recalled something about Mana Walker.

[smoosh]

ahh i see...i rather wait for the scans, cause after reading the airgear raws, it spoiled the whole story for me cause i already know the general outcome. But no understanding what-so-ever XDD hahas...musician...hmm..

[Katsuomori]

Yeah... but anyway, makes no difference to me whether I knew about it or not. The action counts to me. I'll wait for the scans for definate answer. ^^

[smoosh]

oooo the latest chapter showed the appearance of the musician cool......need the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGGGHHH XD

[Katsuomori]

I read the latest chapter and I think that I have a brief clue who the musician might be... since the Musican (a Noah who betrayed the Earl) stole the egg from the Earl before that previous ark's completion and gave the key to a human... Allen was said to be the only one who can steal the egg. I'm wasn't that much surprised that Allen and Timcampy have the power of the key. Well... maybe I am... just can't wait to read the next chap. ^^

[HollowKing]

the anime just started to get good =] =] =] =]

and i cant wait to read the maga though, what chapter shoudl i start on if i have seen all of the anime eps released so far?

cheers
Hollow

[smoosh]

around volume 5 chapter 45 or 46....the anime is super slow they are only just getting to china >.<

[HollowKing]

cheers =] =] =] =]

lol i was thinking bt the anime is good nonetheless

i think that the fights have becomes less violent and good bt still its awesome =] =] =] lol

cheers again!
Hollow

[Teachan]

D.Gray-man is one of my very favourite manga out there :)

Apart from the world Allen sees with his eyes (the black and white world of the living and the dead, Allen sees both of them, hence he sees 'gray'), I think that the particular colour, gray, has to do with all the characters in the manga. Think about it. No one there is only evil or only good. Not even Allen himself. Not even the Noahs. Not even the Akuma.



Allen is called "The Destroyer of Time" (It refers to the Millenium Earl) a rather horrifying nickname. Plus, Rinali has seen a dream about the destruction of the HQ of the Dark Religion Organisation. If you notice, Allen is lying on her lap, covered, but we can see his red arm, so we know it's him. I don't believe that this is some kind of possible future, since Rinali has long hair and now they're short. I believe it's what Rinali fears the most: Destruction from Allen.

Not to mention that Allen saw exactly the same when he "died", but from the opposite side. It certainly has to do with this eye of his. Plus, when he tried to reach the image of her, someone caught his hand, someone who looked like an opposite him, with a smile that reminding the Earl's smile.

We have seen him going berserk and he acted like an Akuma: Just like Akuma want to kill, kill humans, Allen wants to kill, kill the Akuma. Both drunk in the sense of destruction, both wanting to kill.

As he had said to Bak, "I'm a weapon" and not just because he's a parasyte type. Can you say that Allen is any different from an Akuma in this case? No. But, we do say that the Akuman are "bad" or "evil". For Allen, is the case of "too much power in a too small body". Very dangerous, and not only for the enemies.

And what about his final form? He became a "Crowned Clown" and the Earl does look like a clown. In the manga, their similarity is obvious, there's even a cover with them side by side and they look so alike: "Two Pierrots".

Moreover, not even the Noahs are totally evil. According to them, they are Noah's children and Noah WAS God's first apostole. What he did? He let everybody else drown and saved only his own family. And we say that Apostoles are "good" and "saints", but not the Noahs? Plus, they have their own truth about this world. They believe that humans are the bad ones. And they're not so wrong, if you think how the human race has polluted the world. It's like the Noah's flood is repeating itself: All the humans destroyed, save for the Noah family. But, we say that this destruction was "good". What if it's the same case here?

Think about Eliade. She was an Akuma, but she clearly had feelings for Crowley. It was her wish to find a man to be with, and she had accepted the fact that he was suppposed to kill her, since she was an Akuma. In ch 109, her soul encourages him to go on fighting, something "good". Yet, she is an Akuma, something "bad".

Tiki Mick also has two sides "the black and the white me", however, on the contrast with Allen, he doesn't embrace both of them to become 'gray', he keeps them separate and that has destructive effects on his self identity and sanity, as we saw. Allen mixes the two sides together and thus, he becomes stronger.


All in all, no one in this story is 100% good or a 100% bad. There's only gray and Allen is the living proof of this, both because he sees and because he is. He loves the Akuma for he's the only one who can understand their pain and MOSTLY because he himself made his father one. For that, he's a sinner and he tries to find forgiveness (not from God, but from himself) by loving Akuma, thus killing them, by loving humans, thus saving them.

[HollowKing]

PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT POST A SPOILER IN TEXT PUT IN A SPOILER BOX OR DROP DOWN MENU THINGY


SOME PEOPLE CAN GET REALLY PEED OFF BY THAT

bt still lol

lengthy description that i am not trying to read lol

[Teachan]

And the spoiler box is where? :blink:

[smoosh]

use this..[s p o i l e r] YOUR MESSAGE [/ s p o i l e r]..

for example : YAY SPOILER TAGS! ..

like that XD hahas...i cant wait 3 more days till new chapter~~

[Teachan]

Oh, I see! Thanks, I'll go edit it now! ^^

[Katsuomori]

use this..[s p o i l e r] YOUR MESSAGE [/ s p o i l e r]..

for example : YAY SPOILER TAGS! ..

like that XD hahas...i cant wait 3 more days till new chapter~~

lol I can't wait to know more about Allen and Timcampy's connection with that Musician guy more.

I'm pretty surprise that the Earl don't know where is that Room of the Fourteenth. Most of all... I'm pretty shocked to know that the Musician is the only Noah that defy the Earl. He must be one special Noah that the Earl would hate that much.

[HollowKing]

LOL yer bt Allen is soo crap atm lol

compared to Croos hehe

newayz
cnt w8 for the next chapter =] lol

[smoosh]

Hopefully we see more Allen action..its getting *yawns* boring..cross on the other hand like you said is doing an awesome job atm XDD hahas...tommorrow or saturday..new chapter~~ ^^

[Katsuomori]

Hmmm... Sathurday... or tomorrow... hopefully tomorrow cause I'm having my preparation for the coming exams. Please may it be tomorrow.

Right now... things are really pretty messy and I have no idea what happen to the rest of the exocist. Hopefully Kanda, Lavi and Crowey are alright I think.

[smoosh]

it will be today!! at night i guess....cant wait...im sure once allen does something in the egg, the rest will magically poof out of it XDD

[smoosh]

F***!! that was a damn awesome chapter!! i cant help but curse!! DAMN IT!! ITS FREAKIN' AWESOMENESS!!..

Whoot the whole ark got broght back by allen. All of them are alive! MY LAVI!!! whoot! okay so chaoji, kanda and crowly are back but who cares! LAVI is ALIVE!~~ soo happy!~~

sorry for the double post >.<

[Katsuomori]

Just read the latest chap.

Enjoyed seeing the humours that both Allen and his master have. Rhode seemed to be alive... hmmm there's another Noah as well and Earl is crying about something of which I do not know of... I though he would be sinisterly glad about it. Yeah... glad that every one is alive.

[Katsuomori]

I've read the latest chap. So I guess Allen could control the Ark without even knowing it and that symbol... I thought I've seen that somewhere as well... an exocist's emblem? Hmmm...


lol General Cross the womanizer... yeah... he's trying to attract Linali and that wearing glasses girl from China and he couldn't decide which to choose. Poor Linali... looks like she's trying to convince him to stay (so that they don't have to chase after him again... that's something that Cross is best at... running way to let his disciple to pay the debt).

[T.Y.]

The ending was interesting, what do you think is going to happen in the next chapter? Maybe the duke will give the exorcists a visit or it could really be Allen and the other returning home. I cant wait for the new Chappie

[Katsuomori]

I don't think that the Duke will show himself in front of them... since he had no idea who had stopped the downloading of the Ark. But he'll send some of his Noah or high ranking Akumas to attack them as his way to say hello. It's a war now I guess... as for General cross... hope he's not better off disappearing and flirting around with some girls.

[T.Y.]

What do you think of Allen's new innocence? It's so similar to Duke's sword. Is Allen related to the 14th? so does that mean he is also a Noah, i mean how else did he control the ark?

[vio]

I know you wannat alk about whats gonna happen next but im curious. Have you discussed the huge leaps in strength that have been taking place lately. Im happy that Allen isnt zooming ahead as the protaganist of the story and ,yay, everyones not dead and they've all got stronger but geez. No training and Allens became a super strong general guy, then he gets beat by and incredibely strong enemy then cross shows up and hes super pwnage. How strong is the Earl gonna be then? Am i the only one whos worried about another dragonball Z style shonen being born ( OMG i can destroy the world with my eyeballs but i still get pwnt by angry pink plastacine teens)???
agree with me!!!

[Katsuomori]

What do you think of Allen's new innocence? It's so similar to Duke's sword. Is Allen related to the 14th? so does that mean he is also a Noah, i mean how else did he control the ark?

Sorry to disappoint ya but that's not his new innocence. It's the another form of his innocence. An Omega mode or the mode that is equilvilent to the Generals. It's seems that Allen's Omega mode kinda like a opposite to the Duke's. Probably might be related to the Musician Noah guy.

If I'm not mistaken there are three modes for Allen's innocence. The first of which you know is the hand with the sword the next is the cannon like hand and the last is the sword.

[smoosh]

@vio: well have you ever seen any of the charas doing training?

and well allen got pwned by the noah cause he was not able to control his new form of innocence yes? i dont know.

and anyways i dont think its going to become a dragonball Z style shonen. that's just taking it too far....

i do agree that the sudden power ups are taking it a bit too far. but almost every manga does that. Bleach, naruto do that and people still read them~

well anyways, the manga is doing great for me atm..^^ im loving how allen can use the piano to control the ark. and who do i see now?! KOMUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahas..i soo love him XDD he's uber funny!!

[vio]

okok, no more dragonballz theorys :( neways there is some indication that Allen has two swords, when that noah chick tell him to change his right arm (the arm for humans) so maybe his right arm looks the same as the dukes sword and its koolness with a hilt, but its probbly come at some great cost. i wanna see, i reckon its gonna be all good then he finds out it minces his friends as well as the noahs

[T.Y.]

Sorry to disappoint ya but that's not his new innocence. It's the another form of his innocence. An Omega mode or the mode that is equilvilent to the Generals. It's seems that Allen's Omega mode kinda like a opposite to the Duke's. Probably might be related to the Musician Noah guy.

If I'm not mistaken there are three modes for Allen's innocence. The first of which you know is the hand with the sword the next is the cannon like hand and the last is the sword.

I didn't mean new as if he found a new one i meant the new look of it sorry XD anyway going back to Earl, I think he is a bit stronger than General Cross, who also posseses godly like powers himself but i think the current Earl is not completely himself right now (maybe injured or his powers sealed) and about Allen, although he may have "potential" but i think he becomes really strong quickly because he has Noah blood in him

[Teachan]

I don't think Allen is a Noah. At all. As the title says, he HAS to be gray, balanced between light abd darkness. He may be as strong as the Millenium Earl, (The 'Destroyer of Time'; time referred to the Millenium Earl), but always of the opposite side of him; as an exorcist.

If Allen is a Noah, there is no point in the whole philosophy of the manga. That everything is gray and not black and white; absolute. Both the Noahs and the Exorcists have their own strong belief that they are the God's chozen ones. Who is right? No one knows.

The hints of CrossxLenalee cracked me up!!!

[Despair]

I think Allen could be a Noah...Reborn, or descendant of the Noah, otherwise how could he play the Piano, and how come only he could do it? And the 14th Noah isn't evil, and not quite good,either. As it betrayed the Milenium earl, and the earl killed him,right?

And Making Allen a Noah WOULD make sense, as he'd be a Noah and an Exorcist, the good and the evil, he's in between, like black and white, what's in between? Gray...I'unno, just the way I think.

Either way, we'll have to find out. <3

[smoosh]

tomorrow is d.gray man and bleach release day~~ can't wait can't wait..

yea the lenalee X cross was definately funny. loved how allen went:" so this was why lenaless was on the team to hunt down cross" ROFL! omg soo funny!! XDD

[vio]

Yes, yes cant wait, neways i think that there may be a link between akumas and noahs. well there is obviously a link since there on the same side, which may mean that akumas are derived from the blood of noahs, or flesh of noahs, or essence of noahs etc. Which THEN means that Allen has some form of noah related curse on his eye right? Which will then in turn mean the source of his eyes abilities come from noah (maybe the earl since there is a link between the earl and akuma) and then that may relate to why he is able to play the piano. Or his father couldve been the 14th and he was killed and Allen was cursed by an akuma that was a former noah. I think...

[T.Y.]

let's hope that this new chapter will answer alot of unanswered questions

[smoosh]

omfg the latest chapter had soo much comedy in it ROFL!!

mann has komui funny..crying a river onto lenalee's bed XDD and the singing doll!! man....the mangaka is certainly good at doing comedy XDD. Well anyways back to subject. This chapter obviously hints that mana was somehow related (or is) the noah who betrayed the earl. or something along that lines. Since it said the characters were made up by mana and allen a long time ago. And wtf general cross looked soo hawt in his bad ass attitude in the meeting XDD

[Katsuomori]

By the way... if so... what does Timcampy has to do with Allen and the Musician as well? Besides, Allen isn't a Noah but perhaps and maybe perhaps, a part of that Musician guy is with or in Allen. Perhaps an energy or maybe a memory or a key or something else to control the Ark. After all it's possible that a human with an Akuma or a Noah as a part of him/her could have an innocence. Like Allen... he has a part of Akuma in him but he can use that innocence. And in relation to his relatio with the Musician... perhaps that might explain why Allen's sword is opposite to the Earls. I'm sure that the Earl is someone close to the musician at some point that the Musician was given the key to control the ark. I did recall him mentioning about Timcampy's relationship with Allen and how does this thing involves them somehow.

[T.Y.]

Timpcampy is the 14th creation, it is meant to be the "key" for the piano, I think Allen's real father is 14th and that's why Timcanpy listens to him so well

[Katsuomori]

Hmmmm... that's something that I never know about. Besides, I thought Timcampy listens to Allen well because they were friends. O.O Or because they were short lol (Allen commented that Timcampy grew a bout a metre long). I wonder who Allen's real dad may be.

I read the latest chap and...

Poor Bak. He's beginning to loose his mind traveling into the ark from his branch and forth to the head quarters. I guess the Chief really don't want him to meet Linali (actually he barricaded the whole room). As for the Chief (Linali's brother) he cried too much soaking most of Linali's blankets. He even brought her a doll of himself that could sing... badly. As for Allen and the others, torture begins with Crowley's stomach grumbling real bad... Kinda funny chapter. ^^

[Teachan]

I gotta love humor in D.Gray-man! It comes in with good timing, it lightens the mood well and it supposts a well-balanced stroyline evolvement.

Also, the sense of humor is FTW.

That with Mana scared me. Plus, didn't anyone notice that Mana (the little we saw his face from side-behind) reminded A LOT the highest general that spoke to Cross in the last page???

[vio]

That with Mana scared me. Plus, didn't anyone notice that Mana (the little we saw his face from side-behind) reminded A LOT the highest general that spoke to Cross in the last page???

Im sensing Allens Uncle? and Allen's dad was soooo obviously the 14th. Cross is probably a relative, Maria = Allen's mum. OMG its making sense now! well i do believe so neways

good no?

[smoosh]

^lol omg vio...making soo many assumptions...but damn i have to admit..it might be possibly...but we just wont know yet..

[vio]

they're not assumptions, my dad told me ^^
And its sooo obviously gonna happen i can feel it in my fingers

[Teachan]

WTF, the exorcism as family business??

[vio]

family heh, i wonder who Allen's mum is? and and and wha kinda special person was she, would be sooo lame if she was just an average JO. But with the fac that the songs that Allen and his dad used to sing are the same ones that control the ark it has to be that allen's father was the 14th...as far as the family buisiness thing goes im not sure, kinda like the reborn manga

[Katsuomori]

^I ain't gonna jump to conclusions that fast but if you say so... I'll take that as just a part of the many theories.

Inspector suspecting Alllen as the 14th? Hmmm... yeah, can't blame him... I guess General Cross did expect this to happen right from the start since he receieved orders to reclaim that plant. I wonder what will happen to Allen.

I'm beginning to hate that Inspector... though he reminds me of King Bradley from FMA

[Teachan]

And I still haven't gotten who that '14th' is! The traitorous Noah?

[Katsuomori]

And I still haven't gotten who that '14th' is! The traitorous Noah?

Yup, it's the kind of the earlier generation Noah that was entrusted by the Earl to hold the key for the ark. But that 14th @ The Musician betrayed the Earl and his kind and gave the key to the humans instead causing the downfall of the ark. Nobody knows the reason of his betrayal and his whereabouts or even who he may be but it seems that Mana Walker might be the 14th (since he uses the same characters of which he often uses with Allen Walker as a code game as the same inscribsion is written on the piano. Perhaps that's why Timcampy and Allen are the necessity for the key and the reason why General Cross accepted him as his apprintice (the same time General Cross received the order to reclaim the plant of Akuma as claimed by that scary snake looking inspector).

[T.Y.]

Im sensing Allens Uncle? and Allen's dad was soooo obviously the 14th. Cross is probably a relative, Maria = Allen's mum. OMG its making sense now! well i do believe so neways

good no?

I think its safe to say that Maria is not Allen's mom but possibly Cross' first lover or a former comrade (she has a parasite innocence in her which means she is the owner of it) and probably the older Walker was entrusted Allen by Cross. It might be true that Cross may be related to Allen but probably not by blood or else it will mean he is a Noah too.

[smoosh]

ohh man...soo many spoiler tags XDD i shall break the chain!

cant wait..tmr is the new chapter~ which i CANNOT READ! cause i have to go for camp..*grumbles*

[T.Y.]

I wonder what Cross' resolve will be and what will happen to Allen

new chapter of D grayman is out check it out for those who didn't already. It can be safely assumed that Mana walker is probably the 14th

[Whisp]

awesome anime and manga but no clue what the name means

[p4091a]

I'm expecting a lot of fighting to commence....feel sad for allen and co. , they barely rested.... can't wait for next chapter~

[T.Y.]

Face off between Allen and the new Noah, can she be stronger than the awakened Taki-san?

[HappyStealer]

Face off between Allen and the new Noah, can she be stronger than the awakened Taki-san?

Taki-san? Is that tyki mikk? I don't know if she's stronger since to me, Tyki is one of the strongest. Still interesting to me though since General Cross said to Allen when he saw his sword, "You've gotten it to a decent level" Its like... wow, I thought that level was already super powerful since its past 100% synchro but I guess not in cross's eyes. I hope Lenalee gets her dark boots and goes past 100% too ^^ it would be awesome to have her and allen team up. Hopefully kanda and lavi gets theirs back too and syncro past 100% though kanda's seem uber powerful already.

[p4091a]

its not likely that kanda, lavi and lenalee will ALL sync past 100%, at least not so soon...

[HappyStealer]

its not likely that kanda, lavi and lenalee will ALL sync past 100%, at least not so soon...

Oh, I'm not saying like everyone at once. I just hope they eventually get past 100%. Kanda's seems to be already powerful enough that it should be a 100% synchro. From the way things are looking tho, Lenalee will probably synch hers past 100% first imo.

[p4091a]

Kanda's seems to be already powerful enough that it should be a 100% synchro. From the way things are looking tho, Lenalee will probably synch hers past 100% first imo.

But kanda has to watch his lotus thingy, he's been pushing his limits....
Ya, lenalee's synch past 100% will probably be quite soon... given how the current chapters are developing but lavi...he hasn't been getting much attention, has he?

On a side note, its quite...i dunno, predictable? that this will happen (all of them synching past 100%), so i don't really quite like the idea... >.<

[HappyStealer]

But kanda has to watch his lotus thingy, he's been pushing his limits....
Ya, lenalee's synch past 100% will probably be quite soon... given how the current chapters are developing but lavi...he hasn't been getting much attention, has he?

On a side note, its quite...i dunno, predictable? that this will happen (all of them synching past 100%), so i don't really quite like the idea... >.<

Yeha it does seem somewhat predictable... but idk, what still makes me wonder is both allen's and lenalee's innocence. Which one is the heart? Is tehre such a thing as a heart of innocence? Is both of their innocence combined the heart? etc. etc.
As for Lavi, he just recently been getting less airtime but he's been constantly popping up where lenalee is, so its not like the author has been completely leaving him out. Plus, anyone without a innocence right now seems to be in a struggle and it seems that they are focusing on lenalee getting her's back first. I would assume it will proceed with Kanda and Lavi getting theirs back eventually after lenalee

[T.Y.]

noo! Lenalee shouldnt synchro, she should keep her sexy legs the way they r right now!!and makes you wonder doesn't it? If Allen's is in "decent form" what's Cross' synchro percentage with his anki-akuma weapons? Maybe 300-500%? and sorry about the Taki and Tyki mistake XD, dumb mistake sorry!

[HappyStealer]

noo! Lenalee shouldnt synchro, she should keep her sexy legs the way they r right now!!and makes you wonder doesn't it? If Allen's is in "decent form" what's Cross' synchro percentage with his anki-akuma weapons? Maybe 300-500%? and sorry about the Taki and Tyki mistake XD, dumb mistake sorry!

Seems like cross has his past a crazy digit like 300-500%. Took down Tyki like he was nothing and even the earl is kinda worried about him. I definitely like to see the strength of all the generals, especially cross and cloud nine (she's gotta be crazy with that scar on her right side). I don't know though but is it me or is Lenalee's and Allen's anti-akuma weapons becoming the opposite of each other. Crown Clown is a sword at past 100% synchro (equipment type) and apparently lenalee's is evolving from an equipment type to a parasitic type. Evolution does some crazy stuff....

[T.Y.]

Seems like cross has his past a crazy digit like 300-500%. Took down Tyki like he was nothing and even the earl is kinda worried about him. I definitely like to see the strength of all the generals, especially cross and cloud nine (she's gotta be crazy with that scar on her right side). I don't know though but is it me or is Lenalee's and Allen's anti-akuma weapons becoming the opposite of each other. Crown Clown is a sword at past 100% synchro (equipment type) and apparently lenalee's is evolving from an equipment type to a parasitic type. Evolution does some crazy stuff....

Lenalee's synchro at the moment is less than 10%, its too dangerous for her to use it, but they want to see if they can get it to synchro better by putting the innocence in her leg to make it into a parasitic type, which obviously her brother does not want

[HappyStealer]

Lenalee's synchro at the moment is less than 10%, its too dangerous for her to use it, but they want to see if they can get it to synchro better by putting the innocence in her leg to make it into a parasitic type, which obviously her brother does not want

Hmm, I dont see it as they are forcing the innocence into her leg to become a parasitic type, its stated as more of evolving. From what was stated by Helvlaska, lenalee's innocence is like allen's when his arm was damaged. Its in a state where it won't evoke because of the mentality of the user. Helvlaska also states that her innocence is acting like the way an akuma does, feeding and evolving, just like how allen's evolved to crown clown. It became something more powerful as the mentality of the user becomes stronger. Her brother, more so, is protecting her because trying to re-evoke an innocence is very tough and has been only done once (allen's situation), plus going to a parasitic type means the user's life is significantly reduced and you know komui is very protective about his sister. Lenalee was talking about forcing her innocence into herself because, I think she's trying to find a quick solution to her problems and doesnt want to really tackle on the problem at hand. Innocence reacts to the users mind and if the user's mind is weak, the innocence becomes weak. She has stated that she's been running away.

[T.Y.]

you got a point there but Lenalees should just keep her sexy legs the way they are like i previously stated

[HappyStealer]

you got a point there but Lenalees should just keep her sexy legs the way they are like i previously stated

Heh but the boots can possibly make them even sexier. High heel dark boots! Yeah I hope lenalee gets her hair back long, females with long hair are always a plus. Wonder if lulubell will succeed in getting back the egg..... What would be an awesome fight is Lenalee Vs. Lulubell! OOOOOOO! Yeah she hasn't gotten to fight a Noah yet so that does seem like a possibility huh?

[T.Y.]

no her legs cannot become sexier, it is perfect already

[HappyStealer]

Hell yeah, General action now! I definitely wanna see Cloud Nine's ability! ^^

[p4091a]

MY GOODNESS I WANT THE NEXT CHAPTER TO BE OUT. Like NOW.

[HappyStealer]

MY GOODNESS I WANT THE NEXT CHAPTER TO BE OUT. Like NOW.

Its gonna be sweet. We've already seen cross's and old guys ability. I sooo wanna see Cloud nine's and Winters. I mean Winters seems like a jerk but you know he's gotta have something awesome. And Cloud Nine is the only female general, so she's gotta have an awesome one.

[p4091a]

i predict~~~ that the next chapter would be full of SFX. Since all of them are going to fight. XD

[HappyStealer]

i predict~~~ that the next chapter would be full of SFX. Since all of them are going to fight. XD

haha hell yeahs. I cannot wait. Poor bookman though, hope he's ok. Allen and bookman was taking on a bunch by themselves and with 4 generals with them now, I predict mad pwnage. And Miranda is so useful! I think her time-record ability is one of the most useful one's. I mean she's everywhere now. Wonder what happens if time-record reaches past 100% synchro......

[p4091a]

they probably won't let that happen...its too complicated for them to think of something even more impressive. =D yeash, pwnage aplenty. Bookman shld be alright. I hope. >.<

[T.Y.]

ooh all the generals are going to fight, lets see how the >100% synchroed exorcists fight

[HappyStealer]

they probably won't let that happen...its too complicated for them to think of something even more impressive. =D yeash, pwnage aplenty. Bookman shld be alright. I hope. >.<

yeah, and I doubt they do anything like, bring people back from the dead by going back in time or healing injuries completely without the temporary solution that time record currently has. Because one of the main themes in d gray man is you cannot bring your loved one's back to life no matter what. Only thing I'd see time-record as being past 100% synchro is probably a much larger area such as covering an entire city or something. And why the heck did it take everyone else so long to get there? Even bookman was able to get there faster than everyone else..... Oh btw, in "Destroyer of time", the time is referring to earl millenium right?

[T.Y.]

ya the earl is referred to as Destroyer of Time

[HappyStealer]

ya the earl is referred to as Destroyer of Time

Oh I thought time was referring to the earl and destroyer was referred to allen's anti-akuma weapon. So basically, allen's anti-akuma weapon will defeat the earl... something like that

[Wingman]

ya the earl is referred to as Destroyer of Time
Actually Allen is the destroyer of time, bookman explained how he (destroyer of) would defeat time (the Millenium Earl)

[T.Y.]

^ i've been making a lot of stupid mistakes lately, sorry happy for the wrong info wing is correct XP sorry ppls

*hides in the corner cause of shame*

I got mized up, he was referred to as Destroyer of something (cant remember what) and i got that mixed up with what they call Allen

[HappyStealer]

^ i've been making a lot of stupid mistakes lately, sorry happy for the wrong info wing is correct XP sorry ppls

*hides in the corner cause of shame*

I got mized up, he was referred to as Destroyer of something (cant remember what) and i got that mixed up with what they call Allen

ah np, Thought that was what its meant.

[T.Y.]

fanywho, i wonder what kinds of innocence the other generals have, we saw the paintbrush from that old general, judgement and maria fro cross. I wonder what kind of smexy weapon cloud nine carries

[HappyStealer]

fanywho, i wonder what kinds of innocence the other generals have, we saw the paintbrush from that old general, judgement and maria fro cross. I wonder what kind of smexy weapon cloud nine carries

Probably a domniatrix whip!

[p4091a]

lawl. that'd be quite unexpected. XD I'm expecting something to do with the Arts. Eg. painting, music, sulcpting etc.

[HappyStealer]

haha, Cloud Nine seems to have a whip. Then she used a crazy summon, well her monkey turned into this crazy monster. Looks like she uses a parasitic type innocence while winters uses equip type. Winters is freaking demented.... showering in akuma blood.... and he took off his mask. He's just pure pwnage and he's pretty awesome because his anti akuma weapon is so cool. Man cloud nine is totally hot... the generals rule! They are taking down akumas like flies.... just shows the difference of these generals 100% synchro in comparison to allen's 100% synchro rate.

[T.Y.]

i still like cross the best, i wonder who the strongest is among the generals. anyway if the generals are so strong y do they follow orders? is there ppl in the main headquarters (vatican i think) whon are stronger than they r?

[HappyStealer]

i still like cross the best, i wonder who the strongest is among the generals. anyway if the generals are so strong y do they follow orders? is there ppl in the main headquarters (vatican i think) whon are stronger than they r?

Well, as seen from cross, he doesn't seem to follow orders, and only does it in times of need. I think generals are generally out there to take down akuma and the earl but they try to act as independent as they can. Generals are users of innocence so they really can't stray that far from each other. I assume they fight for hte greater good and the vatican or church or w/e it is, is just an organization where they gather them, thus giving them somewhat of a chain. PLus I bet the church would make them heretics if they don;t cooperate.

[T.Y.]

still with their skills they could pretty much rule the world but dont u think there is someone else higher up pulling the strings? maybe the pope has like 1000% synchro and is the strongest?

[HappyStealer]

still with their skills they could pretty much rule the world but dont u think there is someone else higher up pulling the strings? maybe the pope has like 1000% synchro and is the strongest?

I mean, I believe the church is pulling the strings but not because someone in their arsenal has a synchro higher than the generals. I think more so, they have some mutual agreement of some sort. The again, exorcists live solely to the destruction of the earl so I really don't see them doing much one the earl is dead and gone. Probably revert to normal lives and probably, the church will support them or something. Just stipulating tho.

[T.Y.]

i want to see more of earl to, i mean why is he trying to destroy the world and the noahs why are they helping the earl if they were the chosen ones of god?

[saniya]

um yea i like tht manga too its actually something different for once^_^

[HappyStealer]

i want to see more of earl to, i mean why is he trying to destroy the world and the noahs why are they helping the earl if they were the chosen ones of god?

yeah I definitely would like to know that too. I would think that the Noah do not like the fact that their is someting out there that is also known as something chosen by god, basically innocence. And they work against it in order to eradicate it so they are the oly chosen one's

[UnseenDeath]

hahah i am a lavi lover i cosplay as him at most conventions. Although i keep reading and i keep having doubts about weither i like allen or i dont idk mixed feelings at this point~

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j137/UnseenDeath/DSC00493.jpg

Im the one with the fricken huge hammer~

[HappyStealer]

hahah i am a lavi lover i cosplay as him at most conventions. Although i keep reading and i keep having doubts about weither i like allen or i dont idk mixed feelings at this point~

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j137/UnseenDeath/DSC00493.jpg

Im the one with the fricken huge hammer~

where is lenalee in that pic? Missing like the best person of them all.

I actually like all the characters from d gray man. Each their own unique personalities. Allen because of course he's the hero and he does anything in his power to save everyone. Plus I like that he finally realized that he doesn't live only just for akuma but for his friends too. It was a tad odd at first when he only lived for akuma but I'm glad that he finally reached a mental state where "his left arm is the salvation for akuma and his right arm is the salvation for humans" A very unique character indeed. Lenalee, she's just hot and awesome. Lavi is lavi, who doesn't like lavi? And kanda, he's just the badass on the street who kicks a bunch of butt. Krowy, I think he's so funny especially when he drool sleeps and mutters Eliade. Plus his battle with jasebro was just awesome. Miranda, whats there not to like about her? Time-record is just an amazing ability. I'd like to see Miranda and Lavi hook up. Of course, Allen with Lenalee.

[UnseenDeath]

our linalee couldnt make it. T.T i was uber depressed without her. I totally want to see allen and linalee hook up and Lavi and Kanda hahahaha yeah. if u read the later manga/ep allendoes alot of things that u sit there and are like wtf u just almost killed everyone you kno and love becuase of u... but cross makes me laugh.~

[HappyStealer]

our linalee couldnt make it. T.T i was uber depressed without her. I totally want to see allen and linalee hook up and Lavi and Kanda hahahaha yeah. if u read the later manga/ep allendoes alot of things that u sit there and are like wtf u just almost killed everyone you kno and love becuase of u... but cross makes me laugh.~

errrr.... I don't know what you are talking about. Allens done a lot of things to save people like suman. He pratically died because of that. And he helped save lenalee from the Earl in the tokyo arc...... If it wenre't for him coming to the rescue, everyone in the science department would be dead or turned into those akuma/skull looking things. If your talking about him not killing off tyki or him refusing to kill road kamelot, thats a hard situation to be in because he has to kill another human being. At his age, you don't want to be a murderer and his mental state is not ina position to kill someone off. He's very fragile

[T.Y.]

in other words, allen is a pussy when it comes to killing others because he believes everyone should live without needing to sacrifice themselvs but is willingly able to sacrifice his own life for someone else's. that is either both hypocritical and brave or hypocritical and stupid. u be the judge

[HappyStealer]

in other words, allen is a pussy when it comes to killing others because he believes everyone should live without needing to sacrifice themselvs but is willingly able to sacrifice his own life for someone else's. that is either both hypocritical and brave or hypocritical and stupid. u be the judge

DOesn't mean he's a pussy, means he'd rather sacrifice himself than see others suffer. Saying he's a pussy is basically saying Jesus is a pussy since Jesus sacrificed his life for all of us. And hyprocricy would be if allen has said he wouldn't sacrifice himself but do it anyways. Obviously, he's never stated that and most of the time, he states that his life is for the sake of akuma and humans. So he's stayed true to his words. A beter word for allen's character would probably be "unrealistic"

[UnseenDeath]

in other words, allen is a pussy when it comes to killing others because he believes everyone should live without needing to sacrifice themselvs but is willingly able to sacrifice his own life for someone else's. that is either both hypocritical and brave or hypocritical and stupid. u be the judge

i completely agree. Allen might act brave and try to save his friends but when i comes down to actually killing the ppl. he doesnt thus they constantly come back and cause more trouble than is needed. Idk i think if he was all like less emotional about everything than it would be easier for him to just kill and not bother witht he while scarficing him self to save them... just me i guess

[HappyStealer]

i completely agree. Allen might act brave and try to save his friends but when i comes down to actually killing the ppl. he doesnt thus they constantly come back and cause more trouble than is needed. Idk i think if he was all like less emotional about everything than it would be easier for him to just kill and not bother witht he while scarficing him self to save them... just me i guess

If it weren't for allen, more people would be dead at the moment. Especially in suman's case, the science department, the arc where we first meet miranda. If allen wasn't there, those people who were int he area would of probably been turned to akuma's.

[T.Y.]

suman was good as dead though he was practically a human vegetable. allen himself admits that he was no good and he couldnt save him no matter how hard he tried. the science department even with allen's rescue they mostly died. allen maybe strong and all but he doesnt have the strength or the resolve to kill. he would even sacrifice his own life to save an akuma (look at the earlier chapters when he first meets a noah and that clock girl, once again i have bad memory when it comes to names) he maybe a great guy and all and he has strong believes in his morals but when it comes down to it, Allen can not and will not kill someone.

[HappyStealer]

suman was good as dead though he was practically a human vegetable. allen himself admits that he was no good and he couldnt save him no matter how hard he tried. the science department even with allen's rescue they mostly died. allen maybe strong and all but he doesnt have the strength or the resolve to kill. he would even sacrifice his own life to save an akuma (look at the earlier chapters when he first meets a noah and that clock girl, once again i have bad memory when it comes to names) he maybe a great guy and all and he has strong believes in his morals but when it comes down to it, Allen can not and will not kill someone.

I don't see that as something bad though, it just means he's human and he doesn't want to take the lives of other humans. I think that because he is the youngest of the group, killing someone can take a massive toll on the boy's mentality. And noah are humans so its hard to say that he was willing to sacrifice his own life for akuma's since they aren't. When it comes down to noah's, more than likely if allen were to kill one, it be near the end of the manga because of the progression of his age and mentality.

[T.Y.]

he should be more lke the general who went berserk and killed everyone or cross. BTW judgement is a hell of a weapon

[HappyStealer]

he should be more lke the general who went berserk and killed everyone or cross. BTW judgement is a hell of a weapon

haha winters the berserker? Yeah his anti-akuma weapon is crazy. Yeah judgement is badass, it can even be used as a bow n arrow type thing. Hmmm, from what it seems, the strongest generals are winters, cloud nine, and cross. Because the other general, maker of eden one, he wasn't mentioned when cross said which generals are able to destroy the egg in one hit. I wonder what abilities does Lau-Shi-Min have because we've seen winters and cross's abilities and they seem pretty strong but with cloud nine's, we've only seen glimpses of what it can do. Seems like a creature of insane strength but I'd like to see what its capable of since it is a general level parasite anti-akuma weapon. Miranda should be fine though, I hope, she does have 3 generals fighting sooo...

[T.Y.]

the attack cross performed was called the arrow of the original sin right? that was just unbelievable. the noah of form seems so friggin strong. she seems to be like another level aboe the noahs uptil now like tyki. i wonder if tyki and the other 4 were one of the weakest of the noahs

[HappyStealer]

the attack cross performed was called the arrow of the original sin right? that was just unbelievable. the noah of form seems so friggin strong. she seems to be like another level aboe the noahs uptil now like tyki. i wonder if tyki and the other 4 were one of the weakest of the noahs

Lulubell does seem strong and with her going on a recon mission by herself, she must be extremely confident or pretty strong knowing that 4 generals are there. Yeah cross used arrow of original sin. Must be one of the strongest abilities he has at his arsenal. Maybe with lulubell, there is a method to defeating her. Like since she is the noah of form, there has to be some way where you screw up her form or something to defeat her. Its kinda like road kamelot, you cannot defeat her in-real life since her body is somewhere else and you have to find that real-body to defeat road.

[T.Y.]

doesnt it seem odd that cross knows the abilities and the name of all the noahs? how did he get such valuable information? mana walker and cross must have had some serious relationship

[HappyStealer]

doesnt it seem odd that cross knows the abilities and the name of all the noahs? how did he get such valuable information? mana walker and cross must have had some serious relationship

I'd have to say at some point in time, cross definitely met up with the 14th noah and hte 14th told him everything. He just hasn't told the leaders of the black order yet because he doesn't trust them.

[T.Y.]

maybe cross is a noah lover

[HurricaneRoad]

i did also just catch up to where allan transformed into his new being.. and damn he looks nice..:D

[smoosh]

ohh goodness XD i havent looked at this thread in ages..and its like page 18 now Oo XDDD some serious discussions i see~

[HappyStealer]

ohh goodness XD i havent looked at this thread in ages..and its like page 18 now Oo XDDD some serious discussions i see~

hehe smoothie, its kinda been between me and t.y. LOL

[HurricaneRoad]

i just cant hate D.Gray-Man on the way they put humor inside of it xD

[sakiru]

>F D.Gray-man is wiiin.

[T.Y.]

god another week without shounen jump, d-grayman was getting really interesting too

[HappyStealer]

yeah because hte generals are whoop butt!

[T.Y.]

it seems allen has finally destroyed the egg, cross is such a dick, he fired at full power knowing that allen and miranda were right there. judgement is a wicked anti-akuma weapon but i wonder wat maria can do if cross uses full power with her? oh wait maybe he cant because the parasyte is in her body and he cant control that

[HappyStealer]

it seems allen has finally destroyed the egg, cross is such a dick, he fired at full power knowing that allen and miranda were right there. judgement is a wicked anti-akuma weapon but i wonder wat maria can do if cross uses full power with her? oh wait maybe he cant because the parasyte is in her body and he cant control that

well it seems he can control her so I wouldnt doubt that he could control maria's anti-akuma weapon. Yeah I didn't like it that he fired at miranda but oh well, exorcists know their roles. Yeah, cross's anti-akuma weapon is awesome... he does too many crazy stuff with it. I think cloud nine's akuma weapon is pretty sweet too. I mean its a monkey that does like powered beyond belief...

[Satralis]

Whah, havent been here since... ahm nvm.

I would like to ask a question that may have been asked already but since i lack time the most nowdays i've no time to check that so ill ask here and hope ^^.
So does anyone know what are those digits on the arc gates? And why wasnt any on the black arc when it appeared in the headquarters?

[T.Y.]

... idk, lets ask happy cause he usally has the answers

[HappyStealer]

Whah, havent been here since... ahm nvm.

I would like to ask a question that may have been asked already but since i lack time the most nowdays i've no time to check that so ill ask here and hope ^^.
So does anyone know what are those digits on the arc gates? And why wasnt any on the black arc when it appeared in the headquarters?

I can't say for sure what the digits mean but from what I got, the digits are kinda like directions. For example, the arc with 4 will lead to say headquarters and the arc with 6 on it leads to the asian branch headquarters. I'm unsure whether its something I read in the manga or whether I'm just confusing mangas but I think it was stated that each branch has its own "gate." They were researching ways to try and get on noah's arc but they weren't able to find it. Fuu is the creation of the order and is the gate of the asian branch from what I recall.

Heh, and yeah T.Y., I just make a lot of speculation and sometimes I overthink it. I usually go with whats presented for me and I analyze it from there. I think my answers are usually wrong. LOL And yeah, my time is limited now since I'm working for the city of houston and going to college full time, so my responses are gonna be real slow. I'll check back on discussions and try to provide some feedback when I can.

[Satralis]

I can't say for sure what the digits mean but from what I got, the digits are kinda like directions. For example, the arc with 4 will lead to say headquarters and the arc with 6 on it leads to the asian branch headquarters. I'm unsure whether its something I read in the manga or whether I'm just confusing mangas but I think it was stated that each branch has its own "gate." They were researching ways to try and get on noah's arc but they weren't able to find it. Fuu is the creation of the order and is the gate of the asian branch from what I recall.

Heh, and yeah T.Y., I just make a lot of speculation and sometimes I overthink it. I usually go with whats presented for me and I analyze it from there. I think my answers are usually wrong. LOL And yeah, my time is limited now since I'm working for the city of houston and going to college full time, so my responses are gonna be real slow. I'll check back on discussions and try to provide some feedback when I can.

Theres plenty of reason and Bak indeed went ahead to check where the doors are leading. The only thing i dont understand is that in these cases the ark's doors are connected with other doors, but there are several times when the arc appeares to thin air and it has a number too... So theres a number for every single place on earth? And if so how come we never saw numbers like 232323?

[T.Y.]

^ maybe the mangaka was lazy and only bother to drew couple of the numbers XD, anywho one more day till the new chappie

[HappyStealer]

Theres plenty of reason and Bak indeed went ahead to check where the doors are leading. The only thing i dont understand is that in these cases the ark's doors are connected with other doors, but there are several times when the arc appeares to thin air and it has a number too... So theres a number for every single place on earth? And if so how come we never saw numbers like 232323?

most likel;y that seems to be the case

[T.Y.]

man the lvl 4 akuma is uber strong XD, allen cant even touch it! 1 hit and that was all that it took to literally send allen flying and knocking him unconcious. just proves that even though allen hit critical, he still has a long way to go

[HappyStealer]

man the lvl 4 akuma is uber strong XD, allen cant even touch it! 1 hit and that was all that it took to literally send allen flying and knocking him unconcious. just proves that even though allen hit critical, he still has a long way to go

yeah, just shows how far he is away from the current generals..... Level 4 is ridiculous. I wonder how the akuma's soul looks at level 4? sucks we didn;t get to see it but must of been gross if allen puked...... I'm excited though.... this just gives allen more drive to be more and mroe powerful..... Maybe a cooler form of crown clown!

[T.Y.]

^ i think allen puked cause it was so damn ugly XD

[Satralis]

Well dont forget that Allen is still a human, and unlike the other criticals he was in there fighting that ridiculous amount of akumas with only the gramps help. When the others came there wasnt so much left.
So allen being tired is a reason... cause if not how come that Allen could stand up to Tiki Mik but cant againts a plain akuma?

[HappyStealer]

ridiculous...... level 4 akuma is just......... insane....... never have been recorded in the entire history of bookman....... Cross's maria seems like she's going to save them from level 4......... well at least the sound attack..... I'm just astonished of how ridiculously strong yet ugly a level 4 is........ I thought synchro past 100% was super strong but even that doesn't seem as strong now..... Knowing the direction of a shounen type manga, we're gonna probably see another evolved form of innocence to counter this new akuma....

[T.Y.]

so that was the ever lvl 4?! holy crap that thing is invincible! i thinks its strong enough beat the noahs as well, i mean even the generals culdnt do a thing. then the question a rises, how strong it millenium earl? if he is strong enough to control the akumas and the noahs, i guess he is like the invincible being

[HappyStealer]

so that was the ever lvl 4?! holy crap that thing is invincible! i thinks its strong enough beat the noahs as well, i mean even the generals culdnt do a thing. then the question a rises, how strong it millenium earl? if he is strong enough to control the akumas and the noahs, i guess he is like the invincible being

sounds just about right.... I'd say there is a ways to go with your synchro with innocence...... Now that level 4 is going after the rest fo the people in HQ...... Are we going to see an evolution of innocence again.... LOL , I wonder though, what would be considered complete synchro with innocence? I always thought 100% was but from what it seems, that isn't the strongest level since the level 4 akuma just spanked it like nothing....

[JackApostrophe]

ridiculous...... level 4 akuma is just......... insane....... never have been recorded in the entire history of bookman....... Cross's maria seems like she's going to save them from level 4......... well at least the sound attack..... I'm just astonished of how ridiculously strong yet ugly a level 4 is........ I thought synchro past 100% was super strong but even that doesn't seem as strong now..... Knowing the direction of a shounen type manga, we're gonna probably see another evolved form of innocence to counter this new akuma....
Well, Allen is bound to evolve his curse power as well as his Innocence. Ever since he got his sword (and lost his arm in doing so), I've been saying that his curse, be it Akuma or Noah power or whatever, will evolve and stretch down so that he gets a black replacement arm while he's using his sword.

[T.Y.]

allen's eye is one of he's greatest skill or abilitiy but is also he's weakness. the eye activates when an akuma is near but if u look at the recent chapters, allen cant even stand up straight cause the akuma is too overwhelming and the eye did not help. instead it made him even more sick, he threw up just looking at a lvl 4 with the eye. and no matter what allen does, he has no chance against a lvl 4 right now. all the generals got owned and the hq is completely destroyed. allen has to go pass the critical and strength his crown clown and turn the sword of exorcism into a super anti-akuma weapon

[HappyStealer]

allen's eye is one of he's greatest skill or abilitiy but is also he's weakness. the eye activates when an akuma is near but if u look at the recent chapters, allen cant even stand up straight cause the akuma is too overwhelming and the eye did not help. instead it made him even more sick, he threw up just looking at a lvl 4 with the eye. and no matter what allen does, he has no chance against a lvl 4 right now. all the generals got owned and the hq is completely destroyed. allen has to go pass the critical and strength his crown clown and turn the sword of exorcism into a super anti-akuma weapon

or lenalee to the rescue.... though I don't see her winning even if she does activate her innocence again. Because, she herself has not gone over 100% synchro and I'd find it a tad weird if she bypasses 100% synchro and gets something much stronger than what the generals are currently at. I have a feeling cross marian to the rescue, maybe even allen's innocence will evolve again. Though I do see Lenalee getting her innocence past 100%. Maybe we'll finally see the role of the "heart of the innocence" I wonder though, if they do find the heart of the innocence, does that mean it will make other innocence stronger when its evoked? hmmm hmm....

[HappyStealer]

This is the first shounen manga where I feel like its hopeless for the good guys to ever win.... I mean.... crap, the freaking akuma outnumber them and now, we have the uber powered level 4... then we got the noah's... then millenium earl....... hopeless I tell ya.... And to add to that, the black order keeps losing members......

[HurricaneRoad]

but then again the black order has "The Destroyer of Time" /allan.. so in the end they go up..

[Satralis]

Well Allen had to fight a great bunch of akuma (lvl 2-3) and was exhausted to the point he was almost taken away so its not so surprising that he was beaten.

Lenalee might get her synchro back and go againts the level 4 but it will be useless in a way... but when Allen sees it, it might get really interesting. And synchro over 100% is when you start to become one with ur innocence right? So the highest level would be when u completely become one with it.
Another power up possibility is the dark guy (prolly the 14th) whos always behind Allen. If he was such a big shot he might give some hope to everyone.
Or it might be that they use the arc to transport the lvl 4 to somewhere else.

[HurricaneRoad]

but will allan then get an even higher form of his innocence in the end??.. he is said that he is the destroyer of time but cant even beat an lvl 4 :S..

[Satralis]

Well if the noahs in general are stronger than any level akuma than the heir of the 14th, is supposed to be able to handle them. Though i still think that he was already too exhausted, and couldnt even draw his sword that should be able to exorcise any akuma. Though he has to understand and awaken that power which wont happen too quickly now... there were too many power ups recently :D

But i wonder where the hell did the generals go? Its not like they were blown away with just that attack...

[HurricaneRoad]

yea and the next powerup will be lenalee.. so in the overall all the exorcists will get an power up.. isnt that a little.... :S

[HappyStealer]

Well Allen had to fight a great bunch of akuma (lvl 2-3) and was exhausted to the point he was almost taken away so its not so surprising that he was beaten.

Lenalee might get her synchro back and go againts the level 4 but it will be useless in a way... but when Allen sees it, it might get really interesting. And synchro over 100% is when you start to become one with ur innocence right? So the highest level would be when u completely become one with it.
Another power up possibility is the dark guy (prolly the 14th) whos always behind Allen. If he was such a big shot he might give some hope to everyone.
Or it might be that they use the arc to transport the lvl 4 to somewhere else.

Yeah I would assume that you would become one with the innocence. Even generals at the current moment still synch with their innocence so I'm assuming the highest attainable level is to become one with the innocence. Well, I think that 100% is just to gain the "true form" of your innocence. However its not the strongest. Strongest form of innocence should be able to kill noahs...

[HurricaneRoad]

it doesn't just only depend on the innocence but also the body of the wielder.. but isnt allan already synced 100% with his innocence?..

[HappyStealer]

it doesn't just only depend on the innocence but also the body of the wielder.. but isnt allan already synced 100% with his innocence?..

yeah he is. Crown Clown is hte 100% version of his innocence

[HurricaneRoad]

i would really like to know if there was a higher stage then 100%..?? that would make sense since he still cant beat that lvl 4.. and he should be the destroyer of time?? :oh:

[HappyStealer]

i would really like to know if there was a higher stage then 100%..?? that would make sense since he still cant beat that lvl 4.. and he should be the destroyer of time?? :oh:

yeah, I would assume there is a higher stage than 100% because its obvious that no one can beat the level 4 akuma with their current innocence....

[kawaiidreamzXD]

allen's probably going to kick back with some amazing power or another...he is the main character after all :P

I have to say though things have been pretty hopeless the past few chapters... :( (BAK-CHAN!!!! NOOOOO!!!)

[HurricaneRoad]

but of course allen is gonna power how is he gonna live up to his destiny with his current power lvl??(remember he should be the destroyer of time)..

[JackApostrophe]

Allen is already past 100% synchro. That's how he got his sword. All the generals are "Criticals", meaning they've gone past 100%, and now Allen is the only non-General Critical.

But that doesn't mean he's mastered his powers, and there might be yet another level for him to reach with his Innocence.

[Satralis]

Yea, all criticals went above 100%, which to me, means they are starting to somewhat merge with their innocence. But as far as we know, there wasnt an example for an innocence to save its wielder by its own will. (now we have Lenalee and Allen) And Allens innocence is forming a part of his heart too. So they are already attached at a higher level than the other generals.

Allens crowned clown was stated to increase the synch rate but that wasnt 100% that time. The rate became higher when he was in the sphere of Tiki.

What i dont understand is that Allen obtained the sword that is the opposite of the Earl's, and should be its equal. But its clear that the Earls is stronger than Allen. So its Allen who should get more powerful not his weapons...maybe if the heart would help him...

Edit: btw i checked and the biggest number was 110% i think.

[HurricaneRoad]

maybe he will get stronger when he puts on his mask.. :s

[T.Y.]

hitting higher than 100% is possible, that's what its called to have hit critical, when allen used the sword of exorcism (strongest form of crown clown we've seen up to now) i believe he was just over 100%, a bit weaker than normal general but non the less, it was a critical. even so lvl 4 is so strong. i wonder if the generals are saving energy right now to deliver the final blow

[Satralis]

Well, when Tikky snaped, he wasted Allen but got pressed by Marian... now the current level 4 seems to create more trouble than Tikky did...

I also think that Allen might get stronger with putting that mask on his face. Its like his Akuma part or something, or at least his innocences impersonation.

[T.Y.]

Well, when Tikky snaped, he wasted Allen but got pressed by Marian... now the current level 4 seems to create more trouble than Tikky did...

I also think that Allen might get stronger with putting that mask on his face. Its like his Akuma part or something, or at least his innocences impersonation.

mask u mean the thing on his eye? the curse? and putting it on might make him stronger? thats something out of bleach is it not, lets just hope the two doesnt mash

[Hichigo]

i think he means the mask from his new innonence, crowned clown
there's a mask on his back
it's possible that the mask will make him stronger
i can't wait for the next chapter

[JimmyTbh]

Allen will get stronger 4sure ... Didnt they say in a chapter a new general was born?? when Allen pulled the sword out his arm. I havnt read this series for awhile but dont generals have more den 1 innonece? He isnt on the level of Earl ... so he has to get stronger, Either his innonece evolves or he gets more.

[Hichigo]

no you don't need more than one innocence to become general
you just need a synchro ratio more than 100%
that's the requirement to become general

[JackApostrophe]

Cross is the only one with two Innocences, but that's because like Allen he's a dirty cheater.

[T.Y.]

^ hey dont trash Cross man he is the most wicked character in the series imo. he is uber strong, bangs like thousands of woman, get money from others and vaticant, is allen`s master, and judgement and maria makes a wicked combo.

[Selierei]

^ hey dont trash Cross man he is the most wicked character in the series imo. he is uber strong, bangs like thousands of woman, get money from others and vaticant, is allen`s master, and judgement and maria makes a wicked combo.
Since you mentioned that Cross bangs thousands of women, gets money from people, and that he has Maria, it makes me wonder about two things. 1, does he get paid to sleep with the women, and 2, does he bang Maria, too? XD I find the first plausible, but the second, not so much.

[JackApostrophe]

^ hey dont trash Cross man he is the most wicked character in the series imo. he is uber strong, bangs like thousands of woman, get money from others and vaticant, is allen`s master, and judgement and maria makes a wicked combo.
Nothing wrong with Cross, but he and Allen are both cheaters compared to the other characters. They both have multiple powers that come from sources none of the other Exorcists can draw from.

Kanda too, but he's not quite as bad.

[T.Y.]

thats cause others are weak pussies and cant get other special powers.

@selierei: I dont think cross is a gigalo, but then are women attracted to him naturally? well he hates men and dirty ppl so i guess that means the only thing he goes near is woman. and boning maria is just too sick of an idea to think of, y would anyone, no matter how desperate they were, screw a corpse who died since god knows when?

[Selierei]

thats cause others are weak pussies and cant get other special powers.

@selierei: I dont think cross is a gigalo, but then are women attracted to him naturally? well he hates men and dirty ppl so i guess that means the only thing he goes near is woman. and boning maria is just too sick of an idea to think of, y would anyone, no matter how desperate they were, screw a corpse who died since god knows when?
XD Yeah, that's true. Those were just passing thoughts that I found amusing. Thanks for responding.

[OkamiUiriamu]

Something better happen soon or I'm dropping this for 3 months again =|

[T.Y.]

next chapter is probably lenalee doing some self conflict kind of shit, things like asking herself "Y the fuck am i so weak" that kind of shit and at the end she gets a uber innocense upgrade

[JimmyTbh]

Cross is the only one with two Innocences, but that's because like Allen he's a dirty cheate

As far as we know ... But the General that was killed by tyki had a heap of Innocence (Not sure about the actuall number but more then 2)

no you don't need more than one innocence to become general
you just need a synchro ratio more than 100%
that's the requirement to become general

But you would require a ratio of 100% or higher to hold more than 1 innocence.

Cross is the only one with two Innocences, but that's because like Allen he's a dirty cheater.

Playa Hater :p

The next chapter looks good btw ... But Allen will save the day :p Believe It!

[Selierei]

Um...The reason he had multiple innocence(s) is because he (the guy Tyki killed) was carrying them around to find their accommodators. He himself only possessed one. >.>

Also, I don't like how Lenalee is having flashbacks about where the mustache man touched her. XD

[T.Y.]

^ lol he's a sex offender and serial lolicon rapist

wats up with the mask allen's wearing? i know ppl have mentioned it but its actually my first time seeing it. it didnt make him any stronger, instead he is fighting in like an unconcious state.

wtf lenalee drank the innocence? i mean come on, they were her boots before, wat if she stepped on dog shit or something, that'd give it some nasty after taste

[Selierei]

^ lol he's a sex offender and serial lolicon rapist

wats up with the mask allen's wearing? i know ppl have mentioned it but its actually my first time seeing it. it didnt make him any stronger, instead he is fighting in like an unconcious state.

wtf lenalee drank the innocence? i mean come on, they were her boots before, wat if she stepped on dog shit or something, that'd give it some nasty after taste
Uh...I'd think that his innocence is/might be responding to Allen's will, thus surrounding his body and moving, therefore making him move, too...But then again, I'm ALWAYS wrong. XD And I doubt he'd be stronger when sleep-fighting than when he is consciously fighting. >.> As for Lenalee drinking her innocence, 1. It's fast, 2. It's better than sticking it in the other end (or is it? o_O), and 3. If it's in a drinkable state now, I'd assume that someone cleaned and then liquified it. XD

But really, how else would she get it into her? XD I mean, I know what most people were probably expecting, but still...And yes, everyone must watch out for mustache men. Especially Mario and Luigi. They make children think of them as good and friendly, and when no one is watching...>.>

[JimmyTbh]

So when the mask is on Innocence is in control :p Thats not a power id want ... get beatn up den get beatn even more ....

wtf lenalee drank the innocence? i mean come on, they were her boots before, wat if she stepped on dog shit or something, that'd give it some nasty after taste

ooo yuk she actually did it ... Ashton Kutcher jumps out youve been punkd, But seriously it was do or die ... choice is simple

[Imprisoned Wind]

I'm starting this manga, its good right?

[Selierei]

I'm starting this manga, its good right?
I like it a lot. However, it is a matter of personal taste. There are a few things early on I dislike, but hell, it gets better, and in my opinion, is well worth the less-than-preferable chapters.

Regardless of your choice, I hope you enjoy yourself. ^.^

[Imprisoned Wind]

alright, thanks. I mean, so far... the manga that gets SO MUCH BETTER for me is Air Gear. If there's anything less dramatic than that, I'll read it... thanks...

[T.Y.]

yay lenalee finally has a weapon to protect her sexy legs! XD

[UchihaCelis]

i doubt she'll be able to use it to it full potntial. she's still injured so i dont think we'll see the new innocence's true power. she'll definately weaken the level 4 demon but i think that it will be the generals who take it down or mayb even allen since he's a critical like them.

[Selierei]

i doubt she'll be able to use it to it full potntial. she's still injured so i dont think we'll see the new innocence's true power. she'll definately weaken the level 4 demon but i think that it will be the generals who take it down or mayb even allen since he's a critical like them.
I agree with that, more or less. With the exception of a few things. <.< Not much else to say at this point...

[T.Y.]

^ u'll see lenalee break critical and turn into an uber sexy killing machine XD, but who knows its manga so expect the unexpected!

[Satralis]

Allen didnt get stronger when he put that mask on, neither was it the innocence that decided to grab hos body and use it, it was prolly Allen himself who asked that.

And regarding the number of innocence it was mentioned that Marian is unique cause he carries more, so if hes unique because of that, than its logical that the others dont.

About Allen and Lenalee, since their innocences are capable to act own their own without getting orders from their master, the best possible way to get even stronger is to separate from them and try to use their inteligence to fight. Like that it would indeed be convinient if the exorcist could carry another innocence since he wouldnt have to concentrate to use the other one. Though its only assumption and im sure it wont be so. Most likely the way to get stronger as always, is to understand oneself the innocence and the akumas... thats all.

[moatism]

good points man, but i don't know about seperating with their innocence. in marian's case he has two completely separate innocence while if allen or rinali were to separate from their innocence then they'd no longer have it and would no longer be exorcists. right?

[HappyStealer]

Allen didnt get stronger when he put that mask on, neither was it the innocence that decided to grab hos body and use it, it was prolly Allen himself who asked that.

And regarding the number of innocence it was mentioned that Marian is unique cause he carries more, so if hes unique because of that, than its logical that the others dont.

About Allen and Lenalee, since their innocences are capable to act own their own without getting orders from their master, the best possible way to get even stronger is to separate from them and try to use their inteligence to fight. Like that it would indeed be convinient if the exorcist could carry another innocence since he wouldnt have to concentrate to use the other one. Though its only assumption and im sure it wont be so. Most likely the way to get stronger as always, is to understand oneself the innocence and the akumas... thats all.

Well I think that all depends. If they seperate from their innocence, they have to be able to fight themselves becuase the akuma will be after the weakets one, which of course if the user. I personally think its more of a handicap than something useful unless, as you stated, they could use another innocence. Anyways, nice to see the level 4 finally down. Seems like lenalee just reached general level like allen. Wonder if they are equal or lenalee's is stronger... hmmm hmmm

[Satralis]

I think Allen is stronger...yet Lenalee being new to this and all :D. And her boots became easier to use and more capable, but they (as far as we know) didnt get any new special abilities, while we know that Allens sword has a certain resemlance to the Earls sword.

@moatism: with separation i meant physical temporary. And although its not a complete one, Allen already is able to do that at a certain level. Since the clown belt and that mask can act on its own while Allen can swing around with his sword.

The interesting part is that woman who has the monkey as the innocence. I would think that she uses other weapons as well (well that whip is...) but she didnt seem to carry anything although her innocence is much like Maria.

[T.Y.]

meh i dont know about allen being stronger than lenalee, it doesnt seem like she went critical yet, correct me if i'm wrong but allen was practically getting destoryed when he was already at his strongest state but lenalee just got her innocence back and the resonance between her and it were pretty low and despite that she was able to fight back and aid allen in a huge way.

the reason it is unique to use more than one innocence is because of the resononce or the compatability is it not? they have to have meet the critrea or they do not work or go ballistic like Suman. even though its in maria, in the end its being used by cross so he needs to be the compatable with the innocence that lives in maria that goes with judgement as well

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sorry for the bump but no ones posting here, but since nothing was revealed in the new chapter so y would u lol

anyway the main reason i posted this here is because i want to start a d.grayman rp and since its not working out so well in the other forum, i was wondering if anyone here was interested? i got the plot line so if ppl are interested i will put it on the RP section