View Full Version : Help To Stop NarutoFan?
Aeonsky
07-29-2007, 04:04 PM
I just wanted to ask the community, do you think Sora Scans should join the crusade to stop Narutofan.com?
Please read this first. (http://www.mangaupdates.com/stopnf.png)
Do you think we should start spreading this in our releases? This issue came up first on www.stoptazmo.com (http://www.stoptazmo.com) and then on www.mangaupdates.com (http://www.mangaupdates.com). I'm kinda split on this and just want to hear everyone's opinion if we should and I just wanted to see what everyone has to say about NarutoFan.
Naruto Fan Website (http://narutofan.com)
AngelMayLaugh
07-29-2007, 04:09 PM
Yeah, I heard about this from bludshock scans/mangashare(is that thier name now?).
What they're doing is wrong, groups work hard to release these manga for free and they go and make a profit from it. Yea you should definately help.
penguinism
07-29-2007, 04:31 PM
yes, i think every1 should get involved :P
Aah, now I understand. Stop Tazmo. And yes, from what I read, there should be no second guessing what to do, they're wrong.
kinneth
07-29-2007, 09:36 PM
I agree aswell.
Taking donations for the completely unneccesary is terrible. :(
dunathan
07-29-2007, 09:38 PM
On Narutofan's own forums it says people who payed got ripped off.
krompt
07-29-2007, 09:41 PM
Yes, and it is pathetic to have to con people into believing that they must pay for something that people worked to make free and availible to the public. This should be stopped, i don't realize why he keeps doing it now that everyone knows about his little sharade :mad:
dunathan
07-29-2007, 09:42 PM
Maybe cause he is a douchebag.
Thunderlord
07-30-2007, 04:31 AM
Is that think at the bottom of their website, the no. of members or the no of rip offs 1,993,330
hmmm....i'm not too sure cos i dont have any backgroud knowledge on hosting a website... but if ripping ppl off is what they are doing, its a big NO!
but i wonder if they are taking any action on this issue.. i mean narutofan
did they even say anything about it?
penguinism
07-30-2007, 04:55 AM
hmmm....i'm not too sure cos i dont have any backgroud knowledge on hosting a website... but if ripping ppl off is what they are doing, its a big NO!
but i wonder if they are taking any action on this issue.. i mean narutofan
did they even say anything about it?
basicly what they do, is when groups for example like sora scans make a scanlation of a chapter, they download those scanlations and put it on their server, which they then charge to download
so free from here, or pay from narutofan for something stolen from here(for example)
basicly what they do, is when groups for example like sora scans make a scanlation of a chapter, they download those scanlations and put it on their server, which they then charge to download
so free from here, or pay from narutofan for something stolen from here(for example)
hmmm...thats bad... but ppl have a choice to not pay right?
anyway.. the bottom line is they should not treaten the fans community
i hate to be notice that there would not be anymore scanlation in the future
hmmm...thats bad... but ppl have a choice to not pay right?
anyway.. the bottom line is they should not treaten the fans community
i hate to be notice that there would not be anymore scanlation in the future
It's just basically people that don't know it's free, thinkt hey have to pay for it. Narutofan seems legit on it site that you have to pay for it, therefore people think in their heads that they must pay for it in order to obtain the manga.
kinneth
07-30-2007, 01:07 PM
Very parochial minded people, I'd say.
Someone should give them the head's up.
hmm...let start shouting at their forum!!
"ppl dont pay for this web!...its actually free!!"
stop paying and start DLing free!!!
XDXD
Thunderlord
07-30-2007, 02:49 PM
hmm...let start shouting at their forum!!
"ppl dont pay for this web!...its actually free!!"
stop paying and start DLing free!!!
XDXD
The website and Forums go under different names. Both require different user names. Very clever of them.
The website and Forums go under different names. Both require different user names. Very clever of them.
hmmm....d*mn... i thought i was clever :p
playsafe
07-30-2007, 04:36 PM
Well that didn't really stop some people. Those people got banned though:( I think sorascans should join. It is important to get more scanning groups to support this cause. We should tell people that we know that PAYS for the free scans or subs in their site.
I have one question though. I know plenty of well known sites that offers similar download&pay method and no one is taking any measures against them. If we decide to be antiNF, we have to be antiPAYforFREESCANS. We cannot just single out NF for that would be morally wrong and discriminating.
So mangaupdates, stoptazmo and w/e site that supports the antiNF crusade should edit their image to include ALL well known sites that offers pay for FREE scans in their "Don't Support" list.
Well that didn't really stop some people. Those people got banned though:( I think sorascans should join. It is important to get more scanning groups to support this cause. We should tell people that we know that PAYS for the free scans or subs in their site.
I have one question though. I know plenty of well known sites that offers similar download&pay method and no one is taking any measures against them. If we decide to be antiNF, we have to be antiPAYforFREESCANS. We cannot just single out NF for that would be morally wrong and discriminating.
So mangaupdates, stoptazmo and w/e site that supports the antiNF crusade should edit their image to include ALL well known sites that offers pay for FREE scans in their "Don't Support" list.
Yeah that's true, a list should be gathered. But at the moment, no one is benefitting from this more then NarutoFan, the site's memberlist is huge.
but what i see from Narutofan's web is you pay for a premium account for a faster DL rate and other special stuff....am i wrong? correct me..
stealth
07-31-2007, 12:18 AM
Yeah that's true, a list should be gathered. But at the moment, no one is benefitting from this more then NarutoFan, the site's memberlist is huge.
its because their list of mangas is also huge. i kind of doubt they have that many members though. most of the member accounts are probably fake just to make people think other people pay for it too.
its because their list of mangas is also huge. i kind of doubt they have that many members though. most of the member accounts are probably fake just to make people think other people pay for it too.
That's a good point, self promotion. Sickening to know how much tazmo has actually made. He/she can get arrested for this, right?
Parina
07-31-2007, 10:38 AM
I agree, you should join.
I am registered at NarutoFan.com but I never wanted to be a "PlusMember" cause I knew it was just to make profit =_=''
Nice job Aeonsky, you included it in ch.161. Let the whole world know!
I agree, you should join.
I am registered at NarutoFan.com but I never wanted to be a "PlusMember" cause I knew it was just to make profit =_=''
same here.... STOP threatening the fans community!!:mad:
Satralis
07-31-2007, 12:25 PM
by Crow:
same here.... STOP threatening the fans community!!
who threatens who?
who threatens who?
narutofan threatens us who love manga and anime
Satralis
07-31-2007, 02:12 PM
he does not threaten us...its just an asshole who robbs uninformed ppl of their money... he does not threaten me... i dunno much about it though...but if the members e-mail adress is availabel than they can be informed...
Aeonsky
07-31-2007, 02:37 PM
he does not threaten us...its just an asshole who robbs uninformed ppl of their money... he does not threaten me... i dunno much about it though...but if the members e-mail adress is availabel than they can be informed...
He has threatened several manga and anime scanlation groups with fake executive letters from a parent company of the specific anime or manga, he falsified police reports and was responsible for multiple attacks on different anime or manga sites (mainly DDOS attacks). In retrospect, I'm glad I'm distributing it.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 02:49 PM
He has threatened several manga and anime scanlation groups with fake executive letters from a parent company of the specific anime or manga, he falsified police reports and was responsible for multiple attacks on different anime or manga sites (mainly DDOS attacks). In retrospect, I'm glad I'm distributing it.
WTH!!! I didnt know that... than hes not only an asshole but a real f***face...omg why does he still breath? Its illegal isnt it?
playsafe
07-31-2007, 03:10 PM
Yes. Other sites does that too. Even thought NF is the one that is benefiting the most out of this scamming business; it doesn't change the fact that people are STILL being ripped off in some other sites that offer more downloads and "premium access" to free scans.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 03:17 PM
thats so sad :(
although when u type "naruto or bleach manga chapter" than its not like NF is the first site to come up...
Yes. Other sites does that too. Even thought NF is the one that is benefiting the most out of this scamming business; it doesn't change the fact that people are STILL being ripped off in some other sites that offer more downloads and "premium access" to free scans.
I never said it changed anything. I'm just saying why NF is being targetted the most.
kinneth
07-31-2007, 07:58 PM
Maybe because they've been benefiting the most, for one.
Can't believe though, NF can run for this long and no serious action has been taken against them.
Setsuna
09-23-2007, 11:35 AM
He should hire his own cleaners and translators and stuff. Charging people for things you steal is the same thing as robbery. :x
chrollo
09-23-2007, 04:00 PM
the main diff between narutofan and other sites is that other sites
need that five dollars a month to pay for their sites and servers mainly because relying on donations every month is too risky but narutofan has so many members that they could support four or fives different anime download sites a month and still have plenty of money left over infact tazmo has enough money from narutofan to never ask for donations again but despite that they have never once lowered the monthly charge
also when they post other groups scans they take out the credit page or remove any sign of who mad it so their members won't figure out that they don't have to pay narutofan
pipoy22
09-24-2007, 05:21 AM
WTH!!! I didnt know that... than hes not only an asshole but a real f***face...omg why does he still breath? Its illegal isnt it?
Well he's a real ******** but conning people out of their money is not illegal.
Well I dont wanna be pessimistic or anything but
the only illegal thing he's doing is distributing Manga\Anime that are copyrighted/serialized uh and same as most of scan groups out there.
par167
09-25-2007, 10:37 PM
Makes me feel bad I have not donated more here ! On the subject I support the staff here ,you guys will bear the burden not the members. If it was up to me I say yes put a little quote saying they are scam artists.
Katsuomori
09-26-2007, 05:53 AM
I quited Naruto Fan (thank goodness that I didn't pay anything to them) after hearing about their negative sceme that they used their members to get easy money. There were sites that were up against Naruto Fan but by my surprise too... I don't expect Naruto Fan is still up and running as no action had taken on them.
smoosh
09-26-2007, 06:17 AM
yea i almost wanted to join. But then i saw that it charged fees for downloads and was like wtf?! Cause at that time i knew of other sites which didnt charge anything so i was kind of shocked that Naruto fan could do that..>.<
Katsuomori
09-26-2007, 06:46 AM
yea i almost wanted to join. But then i saw that it charged fees for downloads and was like wtf?! Cause at that time i knew of other sites which didnt charge anything so i was kind of shocked that Naruto fan could do that..>.<
Yeah, I too felt the same though there were some other anime download websites did the same as Naruto Fan. As soon as I've joined the site, I quit it and never visited it ever since.
smoosh
09-26-2007, 08:20 AM
hahas i never stepped foot in it..just lurked around the front page...reading the site's welcome message XDDD
Katsuomori
09-26-2007, 11:42 AM
hahas i never stepped foot in it..just lurked around the front page...reading the site's welcome message XDDD
lol... probably they must have deleted my account at Naruto Fan. Still the way they charge towards their members for the mangas and stuff is wrong. I wonder why there isn't anyone at Naruto Fan revolt about it?
midorika
09-26-2007, 11:49 AM
That's terrible of them to do that...
And people are still unaware of it and happily give them money?...
=.=
Katsuomori
09-26-2007, 11:53 AM
That's terrible of them to do that...
And people are still unaware of it and happily give them money?...
=.=
Well there are many sites that were against them and most of those sites gave their reason for going against Tazmo (the one who owns NarutoFan). I guess there are others who are drag into joining them by their friends never they knew that Tazmo were just using them. Who's gonna tell all of them?
midorika
09-26-2007, 12:00 PM
Yep. I see some scanlators attached a letter regarding that at the end of their scanlated manga... I was reading Bleach at onemanga... and the scanlator did that at every end of a chapter.... Really long...
And since bleach is quite popular, i'm sure it will be quite an effective approach to the problem...
But shrug... I just knew that a week ago...
Tazmo will get whipped in the end for sure... lolz... = =
Katsuomori
09-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Yep. I see some scanlators attached a letter regarding that at the end of their scanlated manga... I was reading Bleach at onemanga... and the scanlator did that at every end of a chapter.... Really long...
And since bleach is quite popular, i'm sure it will be quite an effective approach to the problem...
But shrug... I just knew that a week ago...
Tazmo will get whipped in the end for sure... lolz... = =
It's just matter of when will those poor trapped members will realize what Tazmo was trying to do to them. Yeah, Tazmo will be whipped for sure.
Chiisu
09-26-2007, 03:50 PM
This is old news >_>
Ebaumsworld is worse imho
Katsuomori
10-04-2007, 12:03 PM
Right now this thread asks if Sora Scans should join in StopTazmo's crusade. My opinion is that if NarutoFan did not Air Gear chapters that were translated from Sora Scans or taken from Sora Scan and make money out of it, then I think Sora Scans do not need to join in but support in some other way by telling other anime fans about Naruto Fan negative and secret activities. For all I know is that Naruto Fan downloaded Scum Scan's Air Gear (of which Scum Scans did not charge any money from it. More a like Sora Scans and Raw Scans site) and put it on their site as they make money from it with a claim that they use the money to pay for the copyright stuff (which is wrong). Because of this, Scum Scans placed an anouncement at the end of their every Air Gear Chapers and yeah, they are against Naruto Fan now.
White Len
10-04-2007, 03:11 PM
Well I think they are thinking of releasing air gear manga to their paying members. I got the feeling once I read this thread bashing tazmo about writing the wrong descriptions. HERE~! (http://www.stoptazmo.com/showthread.php?t=25607)
Now its merely a wrong description of Beauty Pop ripped off from Air gear but the thought he did that does hint at the fact that air gear is being considered right? We're talking about a guy whose been ripping off all the other manga scanlators out there so I'm sure in due time Airgear will also be one of many thats goes up on narutofan.com
Black Rabbit
10-04-2007, 05:53 PM
i guess we should adverstise directly on the pages scans something like "NarutoFan is ripping you off"
Katsuomori
10-19-2007, 02:34 PM
^ Well... that's something that I commonly noticed when I downloaded some manga there.
Babyface
10-19-2007, 04:27 PM
well this is my two cent,
after reading through all the back story and stuff i can honestly say that this tamzo bloke is in act a huge, fat, ugly, greedy pig and should be stopped, and i think that sora scans should place a little announcement at the end of their scans just to raise awareness, and such like.
I'm not a translator/cleaner etc etc and i have huge respect for people who are and put their time and effort into translating these scans for us lesser folk ^^ and to have someone take advantage of other peoples hard work is disgusting and should be stopped as soon as possible
midorika
10-20-2007, 11:20 AM
It is still not stopped??
People need to open their eyes bigger...
... yeah ... they've been advertising about it ...
Kumo2002
10-20-2007, 04:18 PM
well it is not a crime to ask people to "help" pay for the service they provide.....it is a crime to use the money on something that is not even remotely part of the service....and that is what he does....that and steal scans from other scanulators.....I never have paid Tazmo never will....it is a big rip off
well...
im against making money without permission from the original creators and scanlators and etc....
and since this is a fan based work... i think that we should gather together against those who try to make money from our fan works.....
unfortunately we can never know if the guy who own narutofan.com is telling the true when he says that its all to keep his site and stuff online...
pretty hard question....
but well... i believe that we hav enough fan manga sites to release the same thing that they release over there.... for free of course!
but!!(one more) if someone wants to pay someone to hav a high speed download, better suport, and etc... what can we do? to forbid people choice to pay for something seems to be strange hahahahah
i'll tell ya... that if there is somepeople who pays narutofan.com there must be a reason for them to choose it....
i think.. that what we could do... is breakdown narutofan.com and with the gathering off the most fanmanga providers make a new site wich gather some stuff like quality speed, full support, full list. and then use the money earned there to keep all scanlators sites and stuffs up!
it is obvious that this last part can hardly work.. for many reasons hahaha
anywayz... from our very situation now i think that narutofan.com should not be working....
waaaahh hbig post...
sorry maybe i hav said some stuff that someone hav said before... but im too lazy now to read 3 pages of posts hahahahaha
nagi66
10-21-2007, 08:22 PM
i think you guys should i mean its just wrong that guy is getting so much money from poor saps i almost fell for his tricks once and that message saved me =D
chrono
10-21-2007, 09:26 PM
I've known about the whole StopTazmo/NarutoFan fight right after it because a large multi-site affair about fair-play and perceived theft.
@ ALL THE SCANLATORS WHO FEEL SLIGHTED.
To be honest folks he isn't any bigger a thief than the people who deliberately scan raws and than apply the translation to the scanned material. He's not a bigger thief than the people who ask for site maintenance 'donations' or the people who have sites filled with advertisements.
He's ONLY a thief, in your eyes, because you can't sue him without getting caught for theft yourselves!! Your jealous because he's got the ballz to do what you'd do if you didn't think that you'd caught!!
Now YOU feel exactly the same way as the mangka feels when they find out that THEIR hard work is being stolen by YOU! No amount of verbal hand-waving or self-justifications will EVER change the fact that you are a thief just like Tazmo.
:slap:
Wanna be better than Tazmo? Slap a self deleting code into the translated material set for 24hrs and only host the file for only 2-3 days. You've gotten the 'newest' chapter out, helped your locialized and OFFICIAL translation to be sold because now the readers will HAVE TO go out and buy it instead of going to their backup files to re-read it OR have a copy of it. You will make sure both 'the word' about the manga gets out AND that the mangka gets his earned money!!!
d0gpho0d
10-26-2007, 12:01 AM
so why not just sue the guy? form some kind of investigation... file a lawsuit not on tazmo but the company that is holding all of the anime and manga... it's like what.. a thousand dollars to get a lawyer?
d0gpho0d
10-26-2007, 12:18 AM
i'm a narutofan member... before it started the whole plus thing.... i haven't been to the website for at least a year now.... since i just go to the source for naruto.... but uhm if i remembered.... narutofan used to have a goal that they would have to meet.... like it was 3.5k a month... i just went to the site and it's no longer there... i remember once that there was a post on a forum about narutofan.. and how they had a manga website connected to the narutofan website and how the ips were the same.... it's all very shady
psio15
10-27-2007, 11:59 AM
I agree, NarutoFan is ripping off a lot of people who work hard on translations and scanlations. If people pay NarutoFan to view the manga than they are getting ripped off as well, it's just a horrible vicious cycle!
Hey, is SS still helping to stop NarutoFan?
maxplay
11-19-2007, 09:19 AM
i agree with every one else if you are just trying to make a profit off other people's hard work thats wrong now if he bought the manga scanned it and translated it i would have no problem with that but what he does is just wrong.
Jakkin
11-23-2007, 12:38 PM
Which is why I had a friend dump a virus onto Narutofan.... Which might result into some serious actions if anyones computers get it... ^.^;;;;
But it wasn't me... I didn't do it... I put my h4x0rz to r3$7.
midorika
11-24-2007, 01:34 AM
A virus???
Did it work?
LMAO.
Nice one indeed.
:intello:
saniya
01-08-2008, 06:48 AM
i think it wrong..
there are still members of NF? wtf? didnt ppl stop downloading from there? its such a rip, they dont do a single scan/translations but take all the credit and make ppl pay for it, if u look at their manga directory, its a copy of stoptazmo and the number of chapters are exactly the same! there should be a protest or something that stops ppl like them
aznkangaroo3
01-09-2008, 11:04 PM
Um... according to their statistics, they have 122,286 registered users... And about 1,500 active daily users...
Which is why I had a friend dump a virus onto Narutofan.... Which might result into some serious actions if anyones computers get it... ^.^;;;;
But it wasn't me... I didn't do it... I put my h4x0rz to r3$7.
It's not fair to take it out on the members. They probably don't know any better. It needs to be brought to their attention by other means.
-Seika-
01-10-2008, 10:36 PM
Yesh... It's not fair that some people are paying for some manga pages that are available free in other places... >_>
Um... according to their statistics, they have 122,286 registered users... And about 1,500 active daily users...
even so, every month 1500 people pay 5 bucks than they get 7500 a month, they then recieve 90 000 a year, thats a lot of dough. even if they arent active they probably still take money form ur bank becasue u have subscription
Seijuro
01-11-2008, 08:27 AM
I was thinking about the virus thing. Virus that cause computers to crash suck. What if your friend could devise more like spyware or adware whatever its called. So that instead it will spam members computer and show them like bad stuff about narutofan and that there are other sites. free ones. etc. I cant hack to that level but if anyone know some talented people in that area suggest it to them.
Kumo2002
01-11-2008, 08:54 AM
viruses are not the way to do things......first off it is illegal to do this.....second off it would not make any of us much better than him....
we should find a way that wont damage other people computers.....
midorika
01-12-2008, 04:22 AM
Uh huh.
Somebody could try out what Seijuro said up there.
That might be better...
SkyKing
01-21-2008, 12:56 AM
Yes, we should support going against NarutoFan, it is illegal yet, displeasing for donators. Since this topic was brought up in forums, someone can do the same thing what Tazmo was doing. Yet, there would be another case such as this.
hwillis8
02-09-2008, 03:22 PM
You know, it'll be easy to stop Naruto fan. Just become a member of the forums and post free manga links and discredit the site.
grolsch375
02-09-2008, 04:45 PM
narutofan taking an illegal advantage of those people.
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