[Sora Scans] Air Gear 237

[Carnevil]

Here you guys go.

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Chapitres/Air237.zip


Nike is a fucking beast.

[chihoho]

what i can see is that nike did a wind attack to kill him

[Reflector]

Nike is definitely pumping himself full of steroids. Just look at him. God damnit he's awesome. Sora's got nothing on that hombre.

But yeah, we kinda predicted Nike appearing many weeks ago, didn't we? Because there was no way those two punks could have won. Seems like they died, too. Percival blown by the exploding Gandamu and Gawain was crushed.

Haha, the Gawain hype was a total failure.

[Waking_Dreamer]

Here you guys go.

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Chapitres/Air237.zip


Nike is a fucking beast.


That link isnt working for me at all.

[Carnevil]

That link isnt working for me at all.

Don't know what to tell you works fine for me, it just a little slow.

Here my buddy did this one.

http://depositfiles.com/files/3j5jfynqy

[Carnevil]

Nike is definitely pumping himself full of steroids. Just look at him. God damnit he's awesome. Sora's got nothing on that hombre.

But yeah, we kinda predicted Nike appearing many weeks ago, didn't we? Because there was no way those two punks could have won. Seems like they died, too. Percival blown by the exploding Gandamu and Gawain was crushed.

Haha, the Gawain hype was a total failure.

Is it me or did Nike turn into the Hulk? Seriously he got pissed and his shirt ripped off. Maybe it's just activation of his roid rage attack.

Gawain and Pervous were pathetic seriously what was OG's point in creating those characters. Makes me wonder who Genesis is going to take into battle against SF. Shit if those two bitches are just as lame they'll be dead in a few minutes.

[windwaker]

Nike is definitely pumping himself full of steroids. Just look at him. God damnit he's awesome. Sora's got nothing on that hombre.

But yeah, we kinda predicted Nike appearing many weeks ago, didn't we? Because there was no way those two punks could have won. Seems like they died, too. Percival blown by the exploding Gandamu and Gawain was crushed.

Haha, the Gawain hype was a total failure.

Ha i gotta admit i had high hopes for Gawain. But getting taken out by essentially a belt = massive massive fail haha.

If he is alive he needs a serious serious overhaul if he's going to be fit to even help agito warm up!

and yea, Nike is ripped as shit.

He really is a total badass. Its funny that my favorite characters are kazu, spitfire, and nike. At first i held some resentment cuz ya know, he killed spit, but really he's just too cool to hate on haha.

For instance: bottom left panel
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/210/010/

How can anyone hate on that guy?

EDIT: actually, you can just look at my avatar ha.

[Waking_Dreamer]

Yea, okay link works now.

So let me get this straight, Nike was sent to take Yoshi's Regalia, but by the time he was going to attack him, he noticed that somehow Yoshi had taken off his Regalia...?

Why is it every time Nike shows up it seems like the most douchest moment. Like right after the Sora and Killik battle, right when Ikki's wheels were repaired, when Spitfire and Kazu were trying to have serious conversation...

I cant wait for the time when Nike makes an appearance only for someone to go, not interested GTFO fool!...and bounce his ass!

I wonder if Kazu is up to the challenge...?

[windwaker]

Yea, okay link works now.

So let me get this straight, Nike was sent to take Yoshi's Regalia, but by the time he was going to attack him, he noticed that somehow Yoshi had taken off his Regalia...?

Why is it every time Nike shows up it seems like the most douchest moment. Like right after the Sora and Killik battle, right when Ikki's wheels were repaired, when Spitfire and Kazu were trying to have serious conversation...

I cant wait for the time when Nike makes an appearance only for someone to go, not interested GTFO fool!...and bounce his ass!

I wonder if Kazu is up to the challenge...?


Ha nike does tend to do that, i think he just doesnt give a fuck.

But i would love to see kazu be up for something like that. Im hoping that once he finally gets the flame regalia he'll be more confident and more badass.

But kazu definitely has his eyes set on Nike, as is shown by the page i posted up. Although Nike doesnt take him seriously...at all, haha, also shown in the page i posted up.

[Reflector]

Ha i gotta admit i had high hopes for Gawain. But getting taken out by essentially a belt = massive massive fail haha.

If he is alive he needs a serious serious overhaul if he's going to be fit to even help agito warm up!

and yea, Nike is ripped as shit.

He really is a total badass. Its funny that my favorite characters are kazu, spitfire, and nike. At first i held some resentment cuz ya know, he killed spit, but really he's just too cool to hate on haha.

Ha, I'm in the same situation. Essentially all my favorite characters are tangled in the same plotline.

Kazu, Aeon, Spit and Nike are all part of the flame road drama.

And Emily is Kazu's Kazu is Emily's woman.

Of course Kiric and Gabishi aren't tied to that particular plot line, so I'm not 100% flame junkie.

Is it me or did Nike turn into the Hulk? Seriously he got pissed and his shirt ripped off. Maybe it's just activation of his roid rage attack.
God I lol'd.

This is the best part of Nike. He's batshit insane and totally pumped. It's hilarious and awesome at the same time.

[Carnevil]

Nike is such a badass he can show up anywhere at anytime he wants. Nike could grab Kazu and break him in half with nothing but one hand. Look at Nike's arm it's bigger than Kazu's torso.

[Reflector]

It's funny how the two biggest badasses in AG, Nike and Kiric, are both so different. The only thing they have in common is their leet gem skills.

Perhaps Badassery is a requirement for the Gem Regalia?

[windwaker]

It's funny how the two biggest badasses in AG, Nike and Kiric, are both so different. The only thing they have in common is their leet gem skills.

Perhaps Badassery is a requirement for the Gem Regalia?

Duh, just like at least slight effeminacy/metrosexuality is a requirement for the flame.

And childlike immaturity/douchebaggery is a requirement of the wind.

Nike is such a badass he can show up anywhere at anytime he wants. Nike could grab Kazu and break him in half with nothing but one hand. Nike's arm is bigger then Kazu's torso.

Thats actually true about his arm haha. But i dont see Nike snapping kazu in half, kazu is a non issue to him at this point ha.

I could see nike dropping by to tell koga something very serious and grave, and then just trying to talk to kazu with a smile on his face like he DIDNT kill two people he really looked up to right in front of him haha.

[Reflector]

Duh, just like at least slight effeminacy/metrosexuality is a requirement for the flame.

And childlike immaturity/douchebaggery is a requirement of the wind.

That's why I love the Flame road. They're such an amusing bunch. Kazu seems to be the least faggy of them, but let's just wait until he gets the fairy boots.

And yes, wind really is for assholes. Ikki behaves like a douche, and Sora's the biggest asshole in the manga.

[KzTxL7]

Until Wing Zero showed the hell up, I held onto the belief that Nike would show up. I held onto it as if my life depended on in. Seriously, Yoshi and Trident was just too badass for Gawain and Perci to handle honestly.

Had a feeling Perci was going to die. He was a punkass. Gawain was maybe hyped too much. It that or Yoshi was just SO awesome he made Gawain look like crap.

[windwaker]

That's why I love the Flame road. They're such an amusing bunch. Kazu seems to be the least faggy of them, but let's just wait until he gets the fairy boots.

And yes, wind really is for assholes. Ikki behaves like a douche, and Sora's the biggest asshole in the manga.

Ha i dont think kazu will turn more faggy when he gets his dancing shoes. (and i dont know about you, but i feel like the flame regalia has a lot of nicknames, i've heard fairy boots, torch boots, magic shoes and a few others ) I think kazu will get less faggy actually. Since losing it in the first place is one of his big failures ha. But he's going to need a big shot of awesome if he's going to stand a chance against nike.

Ha i dont think ikki is a total douche, but he definitely has times where he is kind of douchey. Sora however, is the undisputed asshole king of the douchebag road.

Until Wing Zero showed the hell up, I held onto the belief that Nike would show up. I held onto it as if my life depended on in. Seriously, Yoshi and Trident was just too badass for Gawain and Perci to handle honestly.

Had a feeling Perci was going to die. He was a punkass. Gawain was maybe hyped too much. It that or Yoshi was just SO awesome he made Gawain look like crap.

Same here, i was like, "okay, things have gone to shit, its time for nike to show up out of nowhere batman style looking scary as shit and just own yoshi." And lo and behold.

And i feel like gawain went out in the most horrible way. I mean cmon...A BELT!!? Although that could just be the contrast between him owning in the OSF match, and being a badass in general, and then getting tossed around like that....really made him look bad. Ha if he had lived nike or sora would probably kill him anyway.

Its funny how Sora decided to get rid of yoshi, since it seems like other than Aeon (who is a normal human) Nike and Sora are the only competent ones. Although i suppose Orca did okay.

[Xemnas]

People Like Nike? i hate muscle bound cornballs like that...I think Sora is more badass, but despite my hate Nike is badass as well

I judt don't like the overhall O!G did on Sora he's so serious all the time, what happened to the sora that burst out laughing during the flame VS wind tag battle

[sabret00the]

Nike is the biggest coward in the whole manga. FACT!

[Carnevil]

Nike is the biggest coward in the whole manga. FACT!

Oh and how is that?

[sabret00the]

Oh and how is that?
He waits till Kiric has finished fighting before challenging him and then does the same with Yoshitsune. That's the most cowardly behaviour we've seen in the manga. Once is a 'meh', maybe even a coincidence. Twice is behavioural.

[windwaker]

He waits till Kiric has finished fighting before challenging him and then does the same with Yoshitsune. That's the most cowardly behaviour we've seen in the manga. Once is a 'meh', maybe even a coincidence. Twice is behavioural.

The first time yea.

But the second time his intention wasnt to use gawain and percy to weaken yoshi, then take him out when he's weak.

The reason Nike has come this time is because his lackeys are incompetent fools, and if he's gonna get something done right, he has to get it done himself. Gawain and percy were both getting owned, so Nike had to come in and clean up after them.

I still think that Nike could clean yoshi's clock without TOO much difficulty in a fair fight.

[Carnevil]

He waits till Kiric has finished fighting before challenging him and then does the same with Yoshitsune. That's the most cowardly behaviour we've seen in the manga. Once is a 'meh', maybe even a coincidence. Twice is behavioural.

Remember Kiric is the most powerful rider in the world. Nike attacking him after the fight with Sora was out of revenge. Nike knew he couldn't take him if he waited and he wanted to take revenge for his brother. Nike saw an opportunity to take his revenge and he took it. Now with Yoshitune Nike is like Sora he doesn't see humans as worthy opponents. In his arrogant mind fighting Yoshi one on one would give legitimacy to a human being as a worthy opponent. Also you have to remember that the fight with SF hasn't taken place yet. Nike isn't dumb enough to risk injury fighting somebody he doesn't see as a worthy opponent. To me Nike is a cleaner, when everybody else fails he comes in and cleans up the mess. Sora wanted Yoshi removed Gawain and Percival failed to achieve that goal. Nike finished the job that's all he did.

Also remember OG stated that Nike is the strongest member of Genesis that includes Yoshi. If OG said that then you know he could've taken Yoshi.

[remanzuo]

hohohoho.....never thought Yoshi was so powerful that he was able to make holes in his AT by using his leg toe

[windwaker]

Now with Yoshitune Nike is like Sora he doesn't see humans as worthy opponents. In his arrogant mind fighting Yoshi one on one would give legitimacy to a human being as a worthy opponent.

Also remember OG stated that Nike is the strongest member of Genesis that includes Yoshi. If OG said that then you know he could've taken Yoshi.

I don't know about this. Nike seems a lot less serious about everything than Sora is, like he's just along for the ride. Also, unless Nike knows something about Ikki that we do not, he already admitted that there is a normal human that could become powerful enough to rival Sora. But i definitely agree the reason he is there is because G and P failed in a most epic fashion.

And about Spitfire, we also have to take into account that he dramatically underestimated Nike's abilities even when he called him for certain the strongest king of genesis. Just something to make you think about how powerful Nike is.

[GravityZero]

Yep. Nike = pwn. Second time in a row he's killed off a King with no reggy.

[Carnevil]

I don't know about this. Nike seems a lot less serious about everything than Sora is, like he's just along for the ride. Also, unless Nike knows something about Ikki that we do not, he already admitted that there is a normal human that could become powerful enough to rival Sora. But i definitely agree the reason he is there is because G and P failed in a most epic fashion.

And about Spitfire, we also have to take into account that he dramatically underestimated Nike's abilities even when he called him for certain the strongest king of genesis. Just something to make you think about how powerful Nike is.

Nike doesn't need to be as serious as Sora, but he does see humans as lower then Gravity Children. Hell he even looked down on Spitfire.
All Nike said is Ikki is something that Sora left behind that could come back to bite him. He never said Ikki was a worthy opponent to himself or Sora.

I don't remember mentioning Spitfire, I mentioned OG writing that Nike was the most powerful king in Genesis. A comment like that means he can't be defeated by a king inside Genesis.

[windwaker]

Nike doesn't need to be as serious as Sora, but he does see humans as lower then Gravity Children. Hell he even looked down on Spitfire.
All Nike said is Ikki is something that Sora left behind that could come back to bite him. He never said Ikki was a worthy opponent to himself or Sora.

I don't remember mentioning Spitfire, I mentioned OG writing that Nike was the most powerful king in Genesis. A comment like that means he can't be defeated by a king inside Genesis.

Well yea, OG mentioned it through Spitfire, he's the one who said it when he was describing him to kazu. I wasnt disagreeing with you, i was saying that even after spit stated he was the best king in genesis, he STILL grossly underestimated him.

And i thought that Nike looked down on Spitfire because he was so pathetic after his injury. And i think the line was that ikki was the knife left behind by sora that could come back to stab him, to me this implies that he thinks ikki could eventually be a worthy opponent to Sora.

And he may think that normals are worse than gravs, but i dont think he has nearly as much zeal about it as Sora does, i dont see why he wouldnt acknowledge Yoshi's strength, which is clearly enough to rival some of the Original grav kids of sleeping forest.

[Carnevil]

Well yea, OG mentioned it through Spitfire, he's the one who said it when he was describing him to kazu. I wasnt disagreeing with you, i was saying that even after spit stated he was the best king in genesis, he STILL grossly underestimated him.

And i thought that Nike looked down on Spitfire because he was so pathetic after his injury. And i think the line was that ikki was the knife left behind by sora that could come back to stab him, to me this implies that he thinks ikki could eventually be a worthy opponent to Sora.

And he may think that normals are worse than gravs, but i dont think he has nearly as much zeal about it as Sora does, i dont see why he wouldnt acknowledge Yoshi's strength, which is clearly enough to rival some of the Original grav kids of sleeping forest.

AHH ok I read it wrong my fault. Exactly so somebody saying that Nike is a coward when he's stronger then all the kings in Genesis is ridiculous.

Yeah you're right it was do with his injury forgot about that. What bugs me about that line is shouldn't he be more worried about Kiric taking Sora out. Too me that whole line was a Ikki wank line, just a way to show Ikki as the bigger threat to Sora. I was surprised OG didn't have Nike spout some bullshit about Ikki's wings.

Nike is too arrogant to ackknowledge something like, that would legitimize humans as being on the same level as gravity children. He's not going to do that not with his gravity child pride.

[GravityZero]

Lol. Then Lind should look down on Gravity Children as obselete prototypes who couldn't become kings without their powers.

[Carnevil]

Lol. Then Lind should look down on Gravity Children as obselete prototypes who couldn't become kings without their powers.

Gravity children didn't become kings they were born kings. Also since Lind is nothing more then a way to make a cheaper gravity child, he can't look down on something that helped create him.

[windwaker]

AHH ok I read it wrong my fault. Exactly so somebody saying that Nike is a coward when he's stronger then all the kings in Genesis is ridiculous.

Yeah you're right it was do with his injury forgot about that. What bugs me about that line is shouldn't he be more worried about Kiric taking Sora out. Too me that whole line was a Ikki wank line, just a way to show Ikki as the bigger threat to Sora. I was surprised OG didn't have Nike spout some bullshit about Ikki's wings.

Nike is too arrogant to ackknowledge something like, that would legitimize humans as being on the same level as gravity children. He's not going to do that not with his gravity child pride.

No way is nike a coward, but also, i think if it comes down to it, he'll do whatever it takes to get the job done (i.e. ambushing kiric)

Maybe Nike is confident that he can handle kiric? Also, Kiric has no regalia as far as we know. I dont really see it as an Ikki wank line. The way i see it Nike isnt arrogant enough to assume that someone who showed a lot of potential with the wing road couldnt become problematic later, he probably thinks that they should just kill ikki now to make it easier.

Also, they key part of that statement is that it is long term, so this could mean he thinks Ikki could become stronger than kiric, not that he is, or is even close.

But i guess we just see Nike differently. I see him as confident, not arrogant. You would have to be blinded by arrogance to not see that yoshi is a highly competent rider who has shown that he is at least as strong as Dontores.

I dont think that Nike really looks down on yoshi, he came in, all business, and just straight up owned him.

When nike looks down on someone, he toys with them and lets them think they are winning, then laughs right in their face at how pathetic they are. OR he treats them like total jokes even when they are expressing a lot of hatred toward him (see my avatar)

I dont see Nike as having a lot of "Grav kid" pride, i see him as having "Im Nike, and im a bad ass mother fucker who's totally awesome" pride haha. But to each his own.

[GravityZero]

To me, Nike's just insane, egotistiscal, and his brother's bitch.

[Carnevil]

No way is nike a coward, but also, i think if it comes down to it, he'll do whatever it takes to get the job done (i.e. ambushing kiric)

Maybe Nike is confident that he can handle kiric? Also, Kiric has no regalia as far as we know. I dont really see it as an Ikki wank line. The way i see it Nike isnt arrogant enough to assume that someone who showed a lot of potential with the wing road couldnt become problematic later, he probably thinks that they should just kill ikki now to make it easier.

Also, they key part of that statement is that it is long term, so this could mean he thinks Ikki could become stronger than kiric, not that he is, or is even close.

But i guess we just see Nike differently. I see him as confident, not arrogant. You would have to be blinded by arrogance to not see that yoshi is a highly competent rider who has shown that he is at least as strong as Dontores.

I dont think that Nike really looks down on yoshi, he came in, all business, and just straight up owned him.

When nike looks down on someone, he toys with them and lets them think they are winning, then laughs right in their face at how pathetic they are. OR he treats them like total jokes even when they are expressing a lot of hatred toward him (see my avatar)

I dont see Nike as having a lot of "Grav kid" pride, i see him as having "Im Nike, and im a bad ass mother fucker who's totally awesome" pride haha. But to each his own.

There's a very fine line between confidence and arrogance. Nike thinking he's a match for Kiric would be arrogance. Nike maybe the most powerful king in Genesis, but Kiric is the most powerful rider in the world. If Nike wanted to kill Ikki now why send a lacky to do the job. Ahh well it's neither here nor there, and trying to figure out the sheer lack of logic and common sense the the characters have makes my head hurt.

When Nike showed up he was all business because he was on a mission. His job was to get the rumble regalia not play with Yoshi. So he eliminated the problem as fast as he could to get he job done with the least amount of effort.

Anyways lets get onto another subject about this chapter, not that I mind the debate but I just realized something more important.
When did Yoshi have time to remove his regalia? That and how did he get it to Benkei before Nike arrived? Seriously did anybody see him remove them? All I saw was him falling then Nike arriving and then all of a sudden he didn't have them on.

[windwaker]

There's a very fine line between confidence and arrogance. Nike thinking he's a match for Kiric would be arrogance. Nike maybe the most powerful king in Genesis, but Kiric is the most powerful rider in the world. If Nike wanted to kill Ikki now why send a lacky to do the job. Ahh well it's neither here nor there.

When Nike showed up he was all business because he was on a mission. His job was to get the rumble regalia not play with Yoshi. So he eliminated the problem as fast as he could to get he job done with the least amount of effort.

Anyways lets get onto another subject about this chapter, not that I mind the debate but I just realized something more important.
When did Yoshi have time to remove his regalia? That and how did he get it to Benkei before Nike arrived? Seriously did anybody see him remove them? All I saw was him falling then Nike arriving and then all of a sudden he didn't have them on.

How is kilik the best rider in the world? A lot has changed since the OSF days. He's very very good yea, but i dont think Nike thinking he could match the regalialess kilik is arrogance.

And last time him and sora were on a mission, to retrieve the flame regalia, but they still fucked around (although this could be because last time they fucked around they failed)

But that is a good question as to when yoshi removed the reg. and gave it to benkei. Hopefully this will be explained in the trans/scan.

[GravityZero]

I believe another poster said he removed the ATs by poking holes though the body with his toes. Rereading, it makes sense.

[Carnevil]

I believe another poster said he removed the ATs by poking holes though the body with his toes. Rereading, it makes sense.

Wait it makes sense that he poked through the boot with his toes. I'm not even going to ask how that worked. But in Air Gear you don't lose a lot of blood because you're a vegetarian so I guess anything makes sense. It's one of those things I'm going to have to accept.

[t260z]

When I think about it, couldn't Nike pull off tricks that sora and Kilic would normaly do together since he has both roads? Like making a sandstorm and stuff, I mean, when he went for Yosh, I could have sworn that the gem only worked on a surface (ground, metal etc.) so he had to do either a wind trick or gem/wind.

Anyway, Yosh may have found a way around Nike...I think...he took down Gawain with an f-ing belt and even dodged his attacks with cans! Come on, he even deflected cannon-fire...that's ultra mega badassitude!
i don't get the whole hulk thing though, maybe its just the roids...experiments...pumped himself full of wind?

Oh, if OG didn't tell us that he was Sora's brother, I don't think I could go by looks alone. maybe the face, but with the extra long hair and muscles bigger than the average person, who knows!?

Kilis better have a sub-regalia or I'll get pissed...gonna get more pissed to if he can beat Nike in a fair fight. Oh, somebody was talking about how he sneaks up on people right? THe first was when he stole the wind regalia, and that's also when I thougt of how cool he is!

P.S: I don't want people to get pissed or anyhting, but I don't think Kazu will get the regalia unless Aeon meets him for no apparent reason.

[Carnevil]

When I think about it, couldn't Nike pull off tricks that sora and Kilic would normaly do together since he has both roads? Like making a sandstorm and stuff, I mean, when he went for Yosh, I could have sworn that the gem only worked on a surface (ground, metal etc.) so he had to do either a wind trick or gem/wind.

Kilis better have a sub-regalia or I'll get pissed...gonna get more pissed to if he can beat Nike in a fair fight.

I don't know if Nike could pull off the Crystal Wind Sand. It looks like a Wind attack but who knows. We don't know the full extent of his roads abilities. Hell we don't even know the full extent of Kiric's road either.

Why would you get pissed if he could defeat Nike in a fair fight? This is Kiric we're talking about.

[windwaker]

When I think about it, couldn't Nike pull off tricks that sora and Kilic would normaly do together since he has both roads? Like making a sandstorm and stuff, I mean, when he went for Yosh, I could have sworn that the gem only worked on a surface (ground, metal etc.) so he had to do either a wind trick or gem/wind.

Anyway, Yosh may have found a way around Nike...I think...he took down Gawain with an f-ing belt and even dodged his attacks with cans! Come on, he even deflected cannon-fire...that's ultra mega badassitude!
i don't get the whole hulk thing though, maybe its just the roids...experiments...pumped himself full of wind?

Oh, if OG didn't tell us that he was Sora's brother, I don't think I could go by looks alone. maybe the face, but with the extra long hair and muscles bigger than the average person, who knows!?

Kilis better have a sub-regalia or I'll get pissed...gonna get more pissed to if he can beat Nike in a fair fight. Oh, somebody was talking about how he sneaks up on people right? THe first was when he stole the wind regalia, and that's also when I thougt of how cool he is!

P.S: I don't want people to get pissed or anyhting, but I don't think Kazu will get the regalia unless Aeon meets him for no apparent reason.

Keep in mind yoshi himself is still a surface, so he can use the abilities of the gaia road still. Although it very well could be an original jade road technique or a wing road technique.

And while yoshi is very resourceful, the very best he could manage is somehow escaping, which would actually be pretty cool, since he could train someone in secret or just help koga from the shadows using his intelligence. But it would be a huge stretch for him to get away from Nike at this point.

And as for the twin thing, the only thing that needs to look similar is the face. They have similar hair and body types, its just that nike works out more and grew his out.

As for kilik and Nike. If kilik has a sub regalia i cant see him losing to Nike one on one, since as far as base abilities go, kilik really is just as good as sora, possibly a little better.

But while i woudnt mind kilik having a sub-reg, it would have to be very clearly stated that it is not nearly as good as the gem regalia, since keep in mind, Kilik's road hasnt changed, so no matter what regalia he uses, he shouldnt be able to use it as good as he would the gem.

And while you should have brought this up in the Kazu or Aeon thread, i disagree, mainly since kazu is going to have to fight either aeon or sora's grav kid replacement for aeon at some point. And theres no way kazu is going to lose to someone who is not the "rightful heir." The plot kind of demands it.

[Carnevil]

But while i woudnt mind kilik having a sub-reg, it would have to be very clearly stated that it is not nearly as good as the gem regalia, since keep in mind, Kilik's road hasnt changed, so no matter what regalia he uses, he shouldnt be able to use it as good as he would the gem.

What? The only difference between an original regalia and a sub-regalia is a sub-regalia needs a tuner. Him having a sub-regalia if it's tuned shouldn't change how good he can use his road.

[t260z]

I don't know if Nike could pull off the Crystal Wind Sand. It looks like a Wind attack but who knows. We don't know the full extent of his roads abilities. Hell we don't even know the full extent of Kiric's road either.

Why would you get pissed if he could defeat Nike in a fair fight? This is Kiric we're talking about.


Okay, to the other, so for not putting it in that thread, won't speak about it anymore. oh, anybody wonderin if Kilic's compressed muscles can beat roids? hmm, makes me wonder, anywho...

Nike has both roads, and beat Kilic in his prime, which everyone always refers him to. Plus even though he's really smart n' stuff, he works best when in a group, not alone, I think. Nike has only gotten stronger from that point with the gem and all.

Nike-
-strong as hell
-gem regalia
-dual road, jade
-can pump up his strength
-defensive abilities
-deeated Kilic before


Kilic
-special training to harden muscles
-smart/planing
-sub reggy (probably)
-remember movements(don't know if its regalia based or road based)
-can scan the area throughthe ground
-known as the best gravity child...he was the only one not going to get scrapped back in the old days.


Oh, on the scan, it looked more like a projectile attack to me rather than a kick. Maybe he summoned up a rock and sent it forward like a bullet...sorry spit.

All regalia need tuning! Nue needed it, and for some reason Sora has one to! And as a sub, it should be weaker than the real thing...that reminds me: remember when they first talked about them and showed a darkened map of the rrgalia symbols and all those branched paths? Guess all roads can be traced to the original eight.

[Regalianestor]

I believe another poster said he removed the ATs by poking holes though the body with his toes. Rereading, it makes sense.

No. It completely made no sense since the AT Ikki was holding do not have any foot-size hole on it. It only have minor cracks. Probably cause by Yoshi overused the Regalia against the AT railgun.

What? The only difference between an original regalia and a sub-regalia is a sub-regalia needs a tuner. Him having a sub-regalia if it's tuned shouldn't change how good he can use his road.

Sub regalias are inferior to original Regalias. And both kind of Regalia still require tuner.

[windwaker]

What? The only difference between an original regalia and a sub-regalia is a sub-regalia needs a tuner. Him having a sub-regalia if it's tuned shouldn't change how good he can use his road.

I dont see why it shouldnt. Kilik rides the gaia road, so obvoiusly, the gem regalia should be what allows him to maximize his potential. An imitation should not be able to perform as well as the genuine article

Also, the regalias are proof of kingship. What meaning does that have when one can essentially just create a copy that is every bit as good as the Original? It all started with ikki and his storm reg, the only reason why ikki should do better with the storm reg than the wind reg, is because his road is different. Its not just a copy of the wind regalia.

If that was really how it is, why didnt agito just get another regalia when he lost his, or why hasnt TTT approached kazu about making him a regalia? And why did sora need the wind regalia core, if he could just get another one made fresh?

The gem regalia was made specifically for kilik, in order for him to maximize his potential, so i think that any imitation should be weaker.

Sub regalias are inferior to original Regalias. And both kind of Regalia still require tuner.

Im pretty sure the original grav kids only need their regalias tuned once if its been tuned to someone else. Otherwise it wont go out of tune because it was made specifically for them. The reason others need tuning is because they are different from the original riders, who the regs were made for.

[t260z]

What do you mean!? The Storm and Wind are like exactly the same. Remember when Ikki used that twister thing on Kazu? He said that was the exact same trick sora used. If anything it's more powerful.

[Regalianestor]

Discussion regarding Kilik's skill? He win by fandomism default.

Im pretty sure the original grav kids only need their regalias tuned once if its been tuned to someone else. Otherwise it wont go out of tune because it was made specifically for them. The reason others need tuning is because they are different from the original riders, who the regs were made for.
It would make more sense to me if original gravity child use the Regalia better than anyone else since it was specially made for them. Other than that, They would still need tuning like others if their body experiences any changes.


What do you mean!? The Storm and Wind are like exactly the same. Remember when Ikki used that twister thing on Kazu? He said that was the exact same trick sora used. If anything it's more powerful.

Oh, it might be the same trick back then. But in the future Ikki can alway fuse it with others road (say Rumble) to create his own unique road.

[Carnevil]

Sub regalias are inferior to original Regalias. And both kind of Regalia still require tuner.

Thanks for pointing that out, they're inferior because they can't keep up with the abilities which requires them to need a tuner. The original don't need tuning only sub-regalia.

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/206/009/

[t260z]

Thanks for pointing that out, they're inferior because they can't keep up with the abilities which requires them to need a tuner. The original don't need tuning only sub-regalia.

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/206/009/

Even with that said, sora has one and nue needed one, which means OG mf-ed up his own logic! Oh, and lol! We're talking about the storm road here! You can't just go off and fuse it, that would make something completely different.

[Carnevil]

Even with that said, sora has one and nue needed one, which means OG mf-ed up his own logic! Oh, and lol! We're talking about the storm road here! You can't just go off and fuse it, that would make something completely different.

Well it has never been said whether or not Nue's regalia is original. Since he's a lot smaller then Blackburn I'm leaning towards sub-regalia. Sora probably requires a tuner because of his legs. But it wouldn't be surprising if OG fucked up his own logic.

[Regalianestor]

I'm sure original-regalias would require tuning too, that is if their users changed or the current user's body experience abruptly changes. The thing about sub-regalias and link-tuner is, the kings power are too great and the sub-regalia is damn fragile, they need to be tune everyday, or before every battle or else the sub-regalia would break apart. Note that, it's not like normal ATs are not fragile or strong non-king rider can't overuse and break their own AT, it just that only king receive the VIP service from TTT and get a personal link-tuner.

It is true that Nue's Regalia originality have not been confirmed. But isn't the fact that it only look resized and Nue is with Genesis make it original? It seem to me that sub-regalias are specially made for SF's Kings only. Kilik request that, he create the design and TTT only have to craft the Regalia. The design thing could explain why Genesis can't request sub-regalia like there is no tomorrow. In the case that Nue's is sub-regalia, probably the original either belong to SF or some other team that have it's name on Genesis to-do-list.

P.S: Lol. It would seem that O!G's logic in unlogic.

[windwaker]

Well it has never been said whether or not Nue's regalia is original. Since he's a lot smaller then Blackburn I'm leaning towards sub-regalia. Sora probably requires a tuner because of his legs. But it wouldn't be surprising if OG fucked up his own logic.

I thought that only the original grav kids dont need tuning, but that the successors, even if they are grav kids, would still need tuning?

And i agree that sora needs tuning because of his legs. They would probably need to be tuned if changes like that happened to the original kings.

I'm sure original-regalias would require tuning too, that is if their users changed or the current user's body experience abruptly changes. The thing about sub-regalias and link-tuner is, the kings power are too great and the sub-regalia is damn fragile, they need to be tune everyday, or before every battle or else the sub-regalia would break apart. Note that, it's not like normal ATs are not fragile or strong non-king rider can't overuse and break their own AT, it just that only king receive the VIP service from TTT and get a personal link-tuner.

I agree with this, but i dont think that natural growth is a drastic enough change for them to need tuning, since the creators probably had that in mind. But i'd like to see a king level rider break normal AT's by riding them to hard (the only ones i can see doing this are Kazu by overheating his AT or melting down the wheels, or Ikki by just utterly destroying his due to wind damage)

It is true that Nue's Regalia originality have not been confirmed. But isn't the fact that it only look resized and Nue is with Genesis make it original? It seem to me that sub-regalias are specially made for SF's Kings only. Kilik request that, he create the design and TTT only have to craft the Regalia. The design thing could explain why Genesis can't request sub-regalia like there is no tomorrow. In the case that Nue's is sub-regalia, probably the original either belong to SF or some other team that have it's name on Genesis to-do-list.

P.S: Remember O!G's unlogic could deny anything I stated above. :|

I agree that Nue's is the original but altered, just like i still think that yoshi's has the original core, but HEAVILY altered. And genesis doesnt have subs because they dont need them, since all their kings had OG regalia (except maybe yoshi). And SF arent the only ones who can get sub regalia because ikki is getting one from kururu.

[sabret00the]

Exactly so somebody saying that Nike is a coward when he's stronger then all the kings in Genesis is ridiculous.

Are you kidding me? This statement is beyond stupid! Are you saying that man can either be exclusively coward or exclusively strong? The antonym of cowardice is bravery and the antonym of strength is weakness. They are not one in the same.

That said, i do also question Nike's strength. His title as strongest in Genesis was won on the back of his triumph over Kiric and probably coupled with the fact that he was a wind user. Nike for me, has to prove his strength in a King Level battle. The fact that Sano negated his Jade road abilities really does undermine his estimated battle prowess.

That said, at least in this thread, i merely stated he was a coward and i stand by that. Strength != Bravery.

Oh and BTW, the Genesis base of operations is on the ship. Nike was in Osaka along with Percy and Gawain. Which means he'd have been there for a while. Which means he could've got involved and had a King Level one-on-one battle at any time. He opted to wait "till Percival and Gawain failed" which only underlines that he's a coward. Anyone can arrive at the last moment in order to steel someone's shoes.

[sabret00the]

I believe another poster said he removed the ATs by poking holes though the body with his toes. Rereading, it makes sense.

Surely the poster was taking the piss. I mean given that there's no gaping holes in the regalia when we see them in real time?

Also Page 12 we see someone undoing a lace. Page 16, we see Yoshi's hands as though he's just thrown em.

[windwaker]

That said, i do also question Nike's strength. His title as strongest in Genesis was won on the back of his triumph over Kiric and probably coupled with the fact that he was a wind user. Nike for me, has to prove his strength in a King Level battle. The fact that Sano negated his Jade road abilities really does undermine his estimated battle prowess.

I dont think so. Nike is definitely the strongest in genesis, thats for sure, and probably due to his ablities as gem king, its not like spitfire didnt know how the end of the OSF fight went down. And Spitfire was most likely aware of yoshi's and Nue's strength, or else he wouldnt have said it. Also, even after saying that, he still underestimated him.

And as for aeon negating the jade road, the only person who could do that is Aeon (maybe kazu) due to his speed, and he still couldnt even move when he did it.

But i agree Nike needs to one on one a full strength king, but i still think he wouldnt have that much trouble, depending on the king.

That said, at least in this thread, i merely stated he was a coward and i stand by that. Strength != Bravery.

Oh and BTW, the Genesis base of operations is on the ship. Nike was in Osaka along with Percy and Gawain. Which means he'd have been there for a while. Which means he could've got involved and had a King Level one-on-one battle at any time. He opted to wait "till Percival and Gawain failed" which only underlines that he's a coward. Anyone can arrive at the last moment in order to steel someone's shoes.

I dont really see how he is a coward, but to each his own.

And obviously Nike didnt think percy and gawain would fail. He didnt choose to wait unitl they failed, he went over once he found out they couldnt handle it.

Remember, to sora, gawain and percival are important since they are grav kids, he wouldnt let them go to waste just to make yoshi tired.

[remanzuo]

Nike is the biggest coward in the whole manga. FACT!

Isn't the boss only come out when his subordinates can't handle their job properly ?

besides...Nike job is the Regalia retriever isn't it ?
even though his success rate is very low
remember this ?

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/159/005/

he suppose to take the flame regalia but failed,
he also failed in taking the rumble regalia
but he did succeed in retrieving bagram

Sora probably requires a tuner because of his legs. But it wouldn't be surprising if OG fucked up his own logic.

He already has one, that Hako girl is Sora's tuner

[burnedalive]

And as for aeon negating the jade road, the only person who could do that is Aeon (maybe kazu) due to his speed, and he still couldnt even move when he did it.


erm...spit couldn't because of his leg injuries.....You must always remember that spit is at like 60% his best

[windwaker]

erm...spit couldn't because of his leg injuries.....You must always remember that spit is at like 60% his best

I know......thats why i said only aeon and kazu have the speed to do it. And not spitfire.

I dont really see what your point is here.

[burnedalive]

I know......thats why i said only aeon and kazu have the speed to do it. And not spitfire.

I dont really see what your point is here.

:) You talk like he never could do it. In his prime I think he could have ^^

[windwaker]

:) You talk like he never could do it. In his prime I think he could have ^^

Ah, yea, most likely.

[Carnevil]

How the fuck can you deny something the writer himself wrote down? It's in fucking black and white "Nike is the last of the five kings in Genesis and the strongest of them all." If OG says he is how the fuck can you say he isn't.

If you notice OG stated that Nike is stronger then the other kings of Genesis. He narrowed it to only those kings, in other words kings outside of Genesis could be stronger. That should give hope to Kazu fans.

[t260z]

Surely the poster was taking the piss. I mean given that there's no gaping holes in the regalia when we see them in real time?

Also Page 12 we see someone undoing a lace. Page 16, we see Yoshi's hands as though he's just thrown em.

Nike was undoing his hair, and when we saw Yosh, he was about to slide his hair back. For some reason, I like Nike...don't know why, maybe cause OG planned him to be be crazy/good/obsessive/and just awesome. personally I don't knwo if we can measure him against Aeon sonce he was on their side the whole time...maybe...but if we do, it drastically weakened him.

Ilike Kilic to, but I;m rooting for Nike...

Plus, wasn't Nike hailed as he strongest of Genesis before he gave Sora the regalia? aNd just throwing it out there, the sheild of time Kazu made was like more mystical than science and never got explained. Maybe it was like a heat shield or something.

[KzTxL7]

Lets just all agree that Nike is becoming the "Kuma" of Air Gear.

[Nee'lahn]

I'm sad that was the end of Yoshi, inevitable yes but still sad =( But Woah Nike is scary and hilarious XD seriously Sora is going to have to do something uber awesome to beat his bro as ultimate villian otherwise the usual hero (Ikki) vs main villian (sora) is going to be upstaged by Nike, unless Ikki ends up taking on Nike (since as stated before he is the strongest) despite kazu clearly having a bone to stab/ pick with Nike. What gets me is how SF are going to respond to this drama/murder (esp. Kiric) becuase its not just a roof top this was a city!

I'm a little disappointed Perciel and Gawain were so...lame I guess, admittedly it makes Yoshi cooler to take them out but on the other hand they just ended up being canon fodder- unles gawin pulls a Gabashi and is not crushed.

[sabret00the]

Nike was undoing his hairYou're right. My apologies.

[t260z]

You're right. My apologies.

Ahh, its cool dude! aNyway, anyone think the skill Nike used to get stronger was like how ringo uses the nitro bubbles...but his is for offense. MAybe he used the wind to expand his muscles, making them as hard as rocks!

Jade Road: Titan's glory!

[remanzuo]

Ahh, its cool dude! aNyway, anyone think the skill Nike used to get stronger was like how ringo uses the nitro bubbles...but his is for offense. MAybe he used the wind to expand his muscles, making them as hard as rocks!

Jade Road: Titan's glory!

I don't believe that wind / air bubbles will make him to become the HULK, he must have been hiding some steroids somewhere.....L.O.L

[sabret00the]

Lets just all agree that Nike is becoming the "Kuma" of Air Gear.
I have laughed at that every single time i've read it.

[windwaker]

How the fuck can you deny something the writer himself wrote down? It's in fucking black and white "Nike is the last of the five kings in Genesis and the strongest of them all." If OG says he is how the fuck can you say he isn't.

If you notice OG stated that Nike is stronger then the other kings of Genesis. He narrowed it to only those kings, in other words kings outside of Genesis could be stronger. That should give hope to Kazu fans.

Dude, i agree that Nike is the strongest king besides Sora, but you can deny a LOT of stuff the writer has written down. Since if OG wants spit to be wrong he is going to be wrong.

But i dont see anyone besides Kilik being stronger than him. I can see him being #2 villian until the end of the series. But it IS OG, so you never know.

I'm sad that was the end of Yoshi, inevitable yes but still sad =( But Woah Nike is scary and hilarious XD seriously Sora is going to have to do something uber awesome to beat his bro as ultimate villian otherwise the usual hero (Ikki) vs main villian (sora) is going to be upstaged by Nike, unless Ikki ends up taking on Nike (since as stated before he is the strongest) despite kazu clearly having a bone to stab/ pick with Nike. What gets me is how SF are going to respond to this drama/murder (esp. Kiric) becuase its not just a roof top this was a city!


While i think Sora is a better rider, Nike will probably go down as being a better villian/character. Its not too uncommon for the bad guy's right hand to be cooler than the bad guy himself. And i doubt Ikki will take on Nike, if there is the slightest chance that kazu could win against him, then ikki will let kazu fight him. haha i cant wait for that fight, ill be so pissed if it gets robbed from me :(

And as for SF, im sure Kilik is feeling very mixed right now. While yes widespread destruction is going on, genesis is essentially tearing itself apart from the inside...so thats always good.

[Carnevil]

Dude, i agree that Nike is the strongest king besides Sora, but you can deny a LOT of stuff the writer has written down. Since if OG wants spit to be wrong he is going to be wrong.

But i dont see anyone besides Kilik being stronger than him. I can see him being #2 villian until the end of the series. But it IS OG, so you never know.

Yeah I know you agree, but others are saying he isn't without having any real facts to prove it. The fact that OG wrote that is a lot more then the speculation I'm seeing on Yoshi being stronger.
He could of easily had Spitfire say something like Nike one of the strongest kings in existence or something to that matter. But he specifically had Spitfire say strongest among the kings in Genesis. Also Spitfire isn't the only one who mentioned it Simca said it as well.
You can deny whatever you want but you can't deny that OG made that statement for a purpose. Having Nike be the strongest or second strongest makes the battle with Koga more exciting. It also gives them a big mountain to climb. That way when they win it'll be more significant.
OG knew what he was going to do with Yoshi, so making Yoshi stronger then Nike would make no sense. But it is OG so who the fuck knows what he thinks.

Ahhh well it don't matter we can all disagree that's what makes this place so much fun.

I would pay money to have Kiric fight Nike and regain his title as gem king.

[windwaker]

Yeah I know you agree, but others are saying he isn't without having any real facts to prove it. The fact that OG wrote that is a lot more then the speculation I'm seeing on Yoshi being stronger.
He could of easily had Spitfire say something like Nike one of the strongest kings in existence or something to that matter. But he specifically had Spitfire say strongest among the kings in Genesis. Also Spitfire isn't the only one who mentioned it Simca said it as well.
You can deny whatever you want but you can't deny that OG made that statement for a purpose. Having Nike be the strongest or second strongest makes the battle with Koga more exciting. It also gives them a big mountain to climb. That way when they win it'll be more significant.
OG knew what he was going to do with Yoshi, so making Yoshi stronger then Nike would make no sense. But it is OG so who the fuck knows what he thinks.

Ahhh well it don't matter we can all disagree that's what makes this place so much fun.

I would pay money to have Kiric fight Nike and regain his title as gem king.

Wait, i must have missed that...people were saying that Nike is weaker than Yoshi? How did i miss such ludicrousness? Yoshi is good, Yoshi is awesome, but Nike is Nike....ha.

And really though, that statement by Spit wasnt even thta big a deal until now. Until Yoshi showed how awesome was people were just like, oh whatever, nike's best king in genesis, he's better than cripple Spit, Nue, and Yoshi big whoop.

Although it is convenient how Spit said that RIGHT as Sora was kindasorta rejoining Genesis. I still think that Sora is stronger, but mainly thats just because of the plot.

And as for kiric and nike, i think that would be a cool match. I wouldnt be able to say for sure who'd win thats for sure.

[Carnevil]

Wait, i must have missed that...people were saying that Nike is weaker than Yoshi? How did i miss such ludicrousness? Yoshi is good, Yoshi is awesome, but Nike is Nike....ha.

And really though, that statement by Spit wasnt even thta big a deal until now. Until Yoshi showed how awesome was people were just like, oh whatever, nike's best king in genesis, he's better than cripple Spit, Nue, and Yoshi big whoop.

Although it is convenient how Spit said that RIGHT as Sora was kindasorta rejoining Genesis. I still think that Sora is stronger, but mainly thats just because of the plot.

And as for kiric and nike, i think that would be a cool match. I wouldnt be able to say for sure who'd win thats for sure.

It's been implied that Nike is weaker then Yoshi. The only advantage Yoshi really has is his intelligence. He might be able to outsmart Nike, but it takes more then intelligence to win a fight.

But it doesn't matter Yoshi is dead and Nike is still here. So Nike has one up on Yoshi. So it really doesn't matter because we'll never get to see a fight between them. Now that would've been a sight to see, but OG had to make Nike look like a bad guy. It kind of goes with the whole bond villain thing. Nike is kind of like Jaws or OddJob, either one would be a good representation of Nike. Now hopefully we'll get to see him take on somebody from SF. Which will probably be Ringo god forbid.
Yeah OG having Spit say that when Sora was getting his regalia was kind of stupid. Personally I just realized I shouldn't use what OG has his characters say, to try and prove my point. Just for the simple fact that usually he has his characters say shit that is so stupid it makes my head hurt.

Hell yeah I would love to see Gem vs Gem. My money would be on Kiric knowing how to negate Nike's gem abilities.

[windwaker]

It's been implied that Nike is weaker then Yoshi. The only advantage Yoshi really has is his intelligence. He might be able to outsmart Nike, but it takes more then intelligence to win a fight.

But it doesn't matter Yoshi is dead and Nike is still here. So Nike has one up on Yoshi. So it really doesn't matter because we'll never get to see a fight between them. Now that would've been a sight to see, but OG had to make Nike look like a bad guy. It kind of goes with the whole bond villain thing. Nike is kind of like Jaws or OddJob, either one would be a good representation of Nike. Now hopefully we'll get to see him take on somebody from SF. Which will probably be Ringo god forbid.
Yeah OG having Spit say that when Sora was getting his regalia was kind of stupid. Personally I just realized I shouldn't use what OG has his characters say, to try and prove my point. Just for the simple fact that usually he has his characters say shit that is so stupid it makes my head hurt.

Hell yeah I would love to see Gem vs Gem. My money would be on Kiric knowing how to negate Nike's gem abilities.

I dont see it that way at all. I see it as gawain and percy fucked up, and nike was forced to come in and clean up their mess, and in the process doing something that was not worthy of his time ha.

Well technically Sora was not technically a king of genesis ha, so i guess it still makes sense.

and as for kiric negating nike's gem, i dont know, and remember nike always has wind to fall back on.

[Carnevil]

I dont see it that way at all. I see it as gawain and percy fucked up, and nike was forced to come in and clean up their mess, and in the process doing something that was not worthy of his time ha.

Well technically Sora was not technically a king of genesis ha, so i guess it still makes sense.

and as for kiric negating nike's gem, i dont know, and remember nike always has wind to fall back on.

Yeah I see what you're saying. Maybe we'll get more answers to all of this in next weeks chapter.

It guess would make sense
Plus Ikki is suppose to fight Sora so Sora would have to be the most powerful. The main character has to defeat the most powerful boss. Unless OG is going to have Nike betray Sora or something stupid.

Yeah he has his Wind but Kiric did defeat his brother. So Nike's wind might not be enough. This makes me wonder if Nike has Kirics Infinite Tremble or does he use something else.

[windwaker]

Yeah I see what you're saying. Maybe we'll get more answers to all of this in next weeks chapter.

It guess would make sense
Plus Ikki is suppose to fight Sora so Sora would have to be the most powerful. The main character has to defeat the most powerful boss. Unless OG is going to have Nike betray Sora or something stupid.

Yeah he has his Wind but Kiric did defeat his brother. So Nike's wind might not be enough. This makes me wonder if Nike has Kirics Infinite Tremble or does he use something else.

Hopefully it's something else. I like the fact that the jade road actually is a fusion of gem and wind, and how he can combine them pretty much seamlessly, so i hope that continues.

And yea, Nike wouldnt betray Sora....even if nike disagreed with him, i cant see him betraying his brother.

[t260z]

It's kind of weird; Kilic probably knows the ins and outs of his own for sure, plus he had experiance fighting Nike before and his brotther...though SOra is stronger now. I don't know, it's kind of lame when the exact same road fights the other one, but Nike does ride Jade so it would be fuckin sweet to have them go at a rematch. WOnder how Kilic's goign to counter Nike tough, going to be pretty tough.

Does anybody want to see Kilic versus Sora!? remember that SF vs KG match? At the end Sora stated that he didn't even use his full power, saying that he wasn't worthy...or something like that.

I just want Kilic to give him a negative rate then beat the crud outa him.

Oh, it just occurred to me that Nike can only really produce the wall of wind and minor levitation. He lacks the wind to create the larger wind attacks like the pile tornado.

[windwaker]

It's kind of weird; Kilic probably knows the ins and outs of his own for sure, plus he had experiance fighting Nike before and his brotther...though SOra is stronger now. I don't know, it's kind of lame when the exact same road fights the other one, but Nike does ride Jade so it would be fuckin sweet to have them go at a rematch. WOnder how Kilic's goign to counter Nike tough, going to be pretty tough.

Does anybody want to see Kilic versus Sora!? remember that SF vs KG match? At the end Sora stated that he didn't even use his full power, saying that he wasn't worthy...or something like that.

I just want Kilic to give him a negative rate then beat the crud outa him.

Oh, it just occurred to me that Nike can only really produce the wall of wind and minor levitation. He lacks the wind to create the larger wind attacks like the pile tornado.

I dont think we have seen the extent of Nike's abilities, not even close. Although the same could be said of Kilik obviously.

And id rather see Kilik vs. sora than kilik vs. nike.

Even if im certain sora would win due to having a better regalia as well as being the final villian.

[t260z]

cool! for a minute there, I thought nobody else wanted to see that matchup.

[windwaker]

cool! for a minute there, I thought nobody else wanted to see that matchup.

You kidding? I think every kilik fan wants to see that match up (and there are quite a lot of them)

They've got such a long bloody history that seeing them fight again will be so fucking awesome.

[Carnevil]

If it is Sora vs Kiric I'm worried about who will fight Nike. Like I said it'll probably be Ringo which I hate to see. But it also makes me wonder if Sora is going to do something that gets Genesis out of fighting SF. I think he would rather see SF vs Koga then come in and pick apart what's left of the other team. But it's OG's story he may have Genesis get weakened just to make it more plausible that Koga can win.

Anyways I'm wondering what Kiric will think about everything that went on in Osaka.

[windwaker]

If it is Sora vs Kiric I'm worried about who will fight Nike. Like I said it'll probably be Ringo which I hate to see. But it also makes me wonder if Sora is going to do something that gets Genesis out of fighting SF. I think he would rather see SF vs Koga then come in and pick apart what's left of the other team. But it's OG's story he may have Genesis get weakened just to make it more plausible that Koga can win.

Anyways I'm wondering what Kiric will think about everything that went on in Osaka.

I wouldnt mind seeing ringo fight Nike. Especially since she gets a HUGE advantage being in the tower and what not. And it'd be cool to see ringo actually battling someone of high level.

Although i can see Nike handling multiple members of SF, he's just that awesome.

[t260z]

i know what you mean by Nike owning everybody! But you still have to concider the last two people on SF, they look like rumble road 9big dude) and flame/wind road (mummy dude) to me. I could just imagine coming out of nowhere decked out in his priest garb and just throws every ese out of the match!

But I think Sora gotta have some edge over Nike. I mean, even of he was my bro, I'd shit myself everytime I see him!

[windwaker]

i know what you mean by Nike owning everybody! But you still have to concider the last two people on SF, they look like rumble road 9big dude) and flame/wind road (mummy dude) to me. I could just imagine coming out of nowhere decked out in his priest garb and just throws every ese out of the match!

But I think Sora gotta have some edge over Nike. I mean, even of he was my bro, I'd shit myself everytime I see him!

I dont know, i think nike is the only one who has no fear of Sora. And i dont think sora would ever betray Nike. or at least id hope he wouldnt.

[Carnevil]

I wouldnt mind seeing ringo fight Nike. Especially since she gets a HUGE advantage being in the tower and what not. And it'd be cool to see ringo actually battling someone of high level.

Although i can see Nike handling multiple members of SF, he's just that awesome.

That's only if the battle takes place inside the tower. The only battle that's been stated to take place inside the tower is the final battle of the tournament. We don't know if SF fights outside the tower or not. We also don't know who picks the place since both teams are A-class. Also with Nike I'm more worried about him kill Ringo, unless Sora made some deal with Rika.

[Mjrn]

That's only if the battle takes place inside the tower. The only battle that's been stated to take place inside the tower is the final battle of the tournament. We don't know if SF fights outside the tower or not. We also don't know who picks the place since both teams are A-class. Also with Nike I'm more worried about him kill Ringo, unless Sora made some deal with Rika.

True, I at least hope so, it would be a shame to see Ringo die in her first serious fight of the series.

Lol, so much love for Nike in this topic, he seems like a steroid craving junky (do not interpetate that litterly). But thats quit all right, 'cause the bigger the are, the harder the fall, hehe.

Seems to me that the Flame Reggi shure's got some funny nicknames!

[t260z]

Shit, I almsot forgot about the fact that ringo still lacks a true regalia! wHere the hell did it go! Rika wasn't in the SF versus Kilik fight and she was supposed to have handed everything down to Ringo, so where did it go!?

[KzTxL7]

That's only if the battle takes place inside the tower. The only battle that's been stated to take place inside the tower is the final battle of the tournament. We don't know if SF fights outside the tower or not. We also don't know who picks the place since both teams are A-class. Also with Nike I'm more worried about him kill Ringo, unless Sora made some deal with Rika.

The battle choice and place should be chosen by SF seeing as the team has existed longer than Genesis as well as been A-Class longer. Seniority.

[windwaker]

The battle choice and place should be chosen by SF seeing as the team has existed longer than Genesis as well as been A-Class longer. Seniority.

That makes sense, since Koga fought HC on their home turf.

[Carnevil]

Shit, I almsot forgot about the fact that ringo still lacks a true regalia! wHere the hell did it go! Rika wasn't in the SF versus Kilik fight and she was supposed to have handed everything down to Ringo, so where did it go!?

That is the perfect fucking question. Where did the original Thorn Regalia go? Rika didn't have them on when she reached the place where Kiric fought Sora. So did Kiric take them if so why hasn't he given them to Ringo?

[t260z]

That is the perfect fucking question. Where did the original Thorn Regalia go? Rika didn't have them on when she reached the place where Kiric fought Sora. So did Kiric take them if so why hasn't he given them to Ringo?

THANK YOU! But, if he would've taken them, wouldn't he have given them to Ringo by now? Oh, and this is just me, but, ummmmm; the Sonia road kinda sucks...big time, though Rika did make it look cooler than when ringo was doing it...OH! Rika was the only one who didn't activate her regalia during the net fight! Wonder why!?

Dam, if some hot chick shows up outta nowhere with them on, things would just become complicated...

[Carnevil]

THANK YOU! But, if he would've taken them, wouldn't he have given them to Ringo by now? Oh, and this is just me, but, ummmmm; the Sonia road kinda sucks...big time, though Rika did make it look cooler than when ringo was doing it...OH! Rika was the only one who didn't activate her regalia during the net fight! Wonder why!?

Dam, if some hot chick shows up outta nowhere with them on, things would just become complicated...

What the hell are you talking about Ringo beat the shit out of Ikki. The Sonia Road is the shit, and we haven't seen her at her best which is inside the tower. Ringo is the queen of the tower for a reason. The only reason you think Rika did it better was because Rika was showing more tits then Ringo does. just admit it.

Rika did activate her regalia against Onigiri but she proved that she sucked since she didn't take him out with that attack.
Look at the right panel she used her regalia.
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/220/016-017/

[windwaker]

THANK YOU! But, if he would've taken them, wouldn't he have given them to Ringo by now? Oh, and this is just me, but, ummmmm; the Sonia road kinda sucks...big time, though Rika did make it look cooler than when ringo was doing it...OH! Rika was the only one who didn't activate her regalia during the net fight! Wonder why!?

Dam, if some hot chick shows up outta nowhere with them on, things would just become complicated...

Wow, thats true, so obviously Rika doesnt have it since she would have given it to ringo, same with kilic...so who knows? Maybe sora swiped them at some point?

Also, i wonder what Rika thinks about how crazy sora is, as well as his anti-gravity child outlook on life.

Me thinks Sora isnt getting any at the moment.

[t260z]

What the hell are you talking about Ringo beat the shit out of Ikki. The Sonia Road is the shit, and we haven't seen her at her best which is inside the tower. Ringo is the queen of the tower for a reason. The only reason you think Rika did it better was because Rika was showing more tits then Ringo does. just admit it.

Rika did activate her regalia against Onigiri but she proved that she sucked since she didn't take him out with that attack.
Look at the right panel she used her regalia.
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/220/016-017/

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOUUUUUUUUU TALKING ABOUT!? sorry, I kinda wanted to say that since they always did that on cartoons. Anyway, Rika didn't activate it, that was OG personifying her movements and actions. And Ringo is only good in the tower cause she'll be able to move at the same rate outside while everyoneelse gets slowed down a bit...then again, she wasn't tuned right.

But what do you mean Sonia is the shit, Rika never got tired though she didn't activate her regalia, she never cracked a sweat until Onigiri released the power of the pervert on her. Plus at the end of that fight, Ringo was like al broken up and could barely walk, along with her whole body hurting like crazy! every hit she dealt, she felt ten fold....remember? Ikki took like every blow, while she was feeling her body struggle like all the time.

Bare minimum, sonia only gives yah a burst of energy...

Okay, I'll admit it, her boobs were noce to look at! Yeah, and I bet allot of other people thought so to...oh, and we alll know that Onigiri is like an all-star when "provoked" enough!

[Carnevil]

We're going to have to agree to disagree because we'll go way off topic if we continue.

[t260z]

We're going to have to agree to disagree because we'll go way off topic if we continue.


We will? CRAP! Okay, so, umm I'm kina wonderin about Rika to! I mean, her boyfreind is on a military ship in the middle of the ocean giving out death sentences. She was able to figure out what Cannon was doing a while back and she told Ring not to make an enemy out of Ikii, telling him of the wing road...plus she's the one who found the old-rusty Bagram's in his desk! come on, she can't be that stupid.

Oh, anybody think OG is like in love with Nike's outfit? It's like emphasized so greetly everytime he comes out of nowhere!

[windwaker]

We're going to have to agree to disagree because we'll go way off topic if we continue.

Since we were TOTALLY on topic before. I mean yea we were talking about nike, but a lot of it had little to do with the actual chapter.

But i also agree that rika did not use her regalia, since her feet were normal for the entire fight besides that one side-panel.

And ringo being completely trashed after fighting Ikki (regalia or no) doesnt say much about her non-tower abilities. So unless the tower boosts her a shit load (which it very well might) or she has improved a significant amount (which she very well may have), i cant see her fighting on par with Nike.

But back on sort of topic. What do you think koga will do with the rumble regalia? Hopefully buccha steps up and says that he may be able to ride the rumble road (similar to how ikki could "see" the wing road, but couldnt do much with it), and so he gets it and either benkei (is she a rumbler?) or dontores (FUCK YEA) trains him. Either way though its just going to sit with them or nike is going to come knocking.

Ha ha, i just imagined Nike casually knocking on Kazu's door, "Hey hows things, so have you seen the rumble regalia?" and kazu would obviously just be frozen in anger/shock.

[Carnevil]

But back on sort of topic. What do you think koga will do with the rumble regalia? Hopefully buccha steps up and says that he may be able to ride the rumble road (similar to how ikki could "see" the wing road, but couldnt do much with it), and so he gets it and either benkei (is she a rumbler?) or dontores (FUCK YEA) trains him. Either way though its just going to sit with them or nike is going to come knocking.

Ha ha, i just imagined Nike casually knocking on Kazu's door, "Hey hows things, so have you seen the rumble regalia?" and kazu would obviously just be frozen in anger/shock.

What is the criteria for riding the rumble road? I mean Dontores and Yoshi were completely different. So could he train Buccha to use the new regalia which work completely different. Which begs the question what happened to Dontores. Is he going to show up out of nowhere all fat and weird like Falco.

I would laugh if Koga came out of the school all talking about how they're going to kick Genesis' ass and Nike is standing outside and he's like O RLY.

[windwaker]

What is the criteria for riding the rumble road? I mean Dontores and Yoshi were completely different. So could he train Buccha to use the new regalia which work completely different. Which begs the question what happened to Dontores. Is he going to show up out of nowhere all fat and weird like Falco.

I would laugh if Koga came out of the school all talking about how they're going to kick Genesis' ass and Nike is standing outside and he's like O RLY.

Well with yoshi i think it was incredible kicking speed in order to make the wind pass through the AT to create the Ramjet.

I think with dontores he had the strength to withstand the force of the ramjet created by his arm things.

Whatever the case, i think buccha is going to have his severely retuned, so that it is more similar to Dontores's.

And he's probably a Rap star or a famous DJ or something

[t260z]

Well with yoshi i think it was incredible kicking speed in order to make the wind pass through the AT to create the Ramjet.

I think with dontores he had the strength to withstand the force of the ramjet created by his arm things.

Whatever the case, i think buccha is going to have his severely retuned, so that it is more similar to Dontores's.

And he's probably a Rap star or a famous DJ or something

Mayb Bucha will chlenge him as he raps and stuff! Bad rapping with good fighting...doesn't sound to bad. sOrry you guys, but it seems like both Emily and Bucha could use it, it's not like its restricted to only big people. I have to say that Dontores may have been the only dude who could've arm wrestle nike and win, walking away with his arm still attached!

The regalia seemed to work in different ways:

Yosh used it so that the air was absorbed through the fron, then pushed out the bac inorder to accelerate his kicks to the point of pushing th wind out into a wall of air. Yosh's style required alot of power-

Don's was based more on resistense since his was shot straight form the regalia...he never realy punched anything, but he also did something where it echoed off the wall due to the super critical fluid or some techno-shit.*insert smart person* anyway, his was resistence.

I think Emily and don should duke it out...I want to see Emily punched straight through Bucha's muscles and send him flying. But when yah think about it, Yosh's wall was way more cooler than Don's...admit it...

[Carnevil]

I mentioned before that Emily could become the Rumble Queen. I would actually laugh if she did just because everybody is hoping Buccha gains the rumble regalia. You know there would be a stream of complainers.

[windwaker]

Mayb Bucha will chlenge him as he raps and stuff! Bad rapping with good fighting...doesn't sound to bad. sOrry you guys, but it seems like both Emily and Bucha could use it, it's not like its restricted to only big people. I have to say that Dontores may have been the only dude who could've arm wrestle nike and win, walking away with his arm still attached!

The regalia seemed to work in different ways:

Yosh used it so that the air was absorbed through the fron, then pushed out the bac inorder to accelerate his kicks to the point of pushing th wind out into a wall of air. Yosh's style required alot of power-

Don's was based more on resistense since his was shot straight form the regalia...he never realy punched anything, but he also did something where it echoed off the wall due to the super critical fluid or some techno-shit.*insert smart person* anyway, his was resistence.

I think Emily and don should duke it out...I want to see Emily punched straight through Bucha's muscles and send him flying. But when yah think about it, Yosh's wall was way more cooler than Don's...admit it...

Right, yoshi's relies on kicking speed and don's relies on strength (resistance).

And is yoshi really making walls? It seems more like explosions of some sort to me.

And i agree i would like to see a strength contest between Buccha and Emily, or Don and emily.

I mentioned before that Emily could become the Rumble Queen. I would actually laugh if she did just because everybody is hoping Buccha gains the rumble regalia. You know there would be a stream of complainers.

I suppose she could, she's got strength, as well as a completely undefined skill set other than being weirdly strong.

But i dont know, i just dont see it. Mainly because emily just lacks ability at this point, even if she is developing quite fast.

Buccha i think its been implied for a while with his similarities to Don. And so far every person who has "gained" a main road had fairly obvious traits leading up to it

Yayoi could keep great time
Buccha is similar looking, has a music connection, wall rider, exposure to rumble road.
Kazu is similar to spitfire in looks/personality, speed rider, had exposure to the flame road.

Emily just has strength.

Im not saying its impossible, but i just dont see it. Although that could just be bias because i want her to ride the lather road or be horn queen ha.

[t260z]

I mentioned before that Emily could become the Rumble Queen. I would actually laugh if she did just because everybody is hoping Buccha gains the rumble regalia. You know there would be a stream of complainers.

Yeah, me to. But the post above me does have a point...Don always carried the boom box while Bucha always had the earphones...both muscular...extremely strong.

[Xemnas]

Emily deserves it more imo XP

[Carnevil]

I understand what you guys are saying about buccha. But this is OG's manga if he wants Onigiri to become Rumble King he will. It doesn't have to make any sense. I mean seriously we just watched a guy blow up a rail gun using mech using only a pair of magic roller blades. OG can have anybody become Rumble King just for shits and giggles.

[Nee'lahn]

O!G may pull out some rando and unreal things but he also hints and leads subtle plotlines along, like Yayoi being agito's tuner and such as hinted at since she can keep time and always had an interest in him since he arrived. Sames goes for Kazu immediately figuring out Spitfire's trick and that Spitfire was interested in Kazu's match. There is more arguments for Buccha being rumble king (one crucical thing being he's been a rider longer and he's well overdue for some development since he didn't want to be overtaken and that has pretty much happened) Of course one can argue O!G will pull something to get the fans all in a tizzy and he may have a sudden change of plan but since he has drawn himself the evidence which hints at Buccha being more suited to the Rumble Regalia than anyone else on Kogarasumaru, I also think Buccha being critised for being slow can link with Don being the weakest OSF king, I don't know why but it's just another contection in my head but feel free to put it down. Also perhaps Emily being in the USA was a way to ensure Buccha getting it would be less up for argument. In the end will anyone get it since Agito seems to know when someone is ready to us a regalia will they be up for it and then it all comes down to tuners again. There was speculation Ami may be Buccha's future Tuner which would as a reader interpreting things I would assume that would hint at Buccha more likley to get a Regalia especially as Kogarasumaru are really going to need them. Also to consider performance against OSF, Buccha held off a king and broke his Regalia. Yes Emily tried to hit Kiric with a statue but that failed and kiric just intended to scare her and didn't attack her, really she mailny jumped and as much as I like Emily her getting the regalia would be illogical. More so O!G (as side from what happens to Ikki) keeps his people stories within logical terms to a slightly more sane degree while Air Trek battles as such are just wacky.

In short If anyone will get it I'm going to believe it won't be Emily. (but after what Carnevil said I'm not going to discount Onigiri even those his 'road' and riding style makes that even more unlikely.)

[HavocRoad]

In the match with Old Sleeping Forest, Buccha judged Dontores' 'walls' as a little soft for his wall-climbing skills.

[windwaker]

I understand what you guys are saying about buccha. But this is OG's manga if he wants Onigiri to become Rumble King he will. It doesn't have to make any sense. I mean seriously we just watched a guy blow up a rail gun using mech using only a pair of magic roller blades. OG can have anybody become Rumble King just for shits and giggles.

He has a ridiculous plot, but he's normally pretty good with how he treats his characters. I think if emily was going to become rumble queen he would have alluded to it somehow.

O!G may pull out some rando and unreal things but he also hints and leads subtle plotlines along, like Yayoi being agito's tuner and such as hinted at since she can keep time and always had an interest in him since he arrived.

Sames goes for Kazu immediately figuring out Spitfire's trick and that Spitfire was interested in Kazu's match. There is more arguments for Buccha being rumble king (one crucical thing being he's been a rider longer and he's well overdue for some development since he didn't want to be overtaken and that has pretty much happened)

Of course one can argue O!G will pull something to get the fans all in a tizzy and he may have a sudden change of plan but since he has drawn himself the evidence which hints at Buccha being more suited to the Rumble Regalia than anyone else on Kogarasumaru, I also think Buccha being critised for being slow can link with Don being the weakest OSF king, I don't know why but it's just another contection in my head but feel free to put it down.

Also perhaps Emily being in the USA was a way to ensure Buccha getting it would be less up for argument. In the end will anyone get it since Agito seems to know when someone is ready to us a regalia will they be up for it and then it all comes down to tuners again.

There was speculation Ami may be Buccha's future Tuner which would as a reader interpreting things I would assume that would hint at Buccha more likley to get a Regalia especially as Kogarasumaru are really going to need them. Also to consider performance against OSF, Buccha held off a king and broke his Regalia.

Yes Emily tried to hit Kiric with a statue but that failed and kiric just intended to scare her and didn't attack her, really she mailny jumped and as much as I like Emily her getting the regalia would be illogical. More so O!G (as side from what happens to Ikki) keeps his people stories within logical terms to a slightly more sane degree while Air Trek battles as such are just wacky.

In short If anyone will get it I'm going to believe it won't be Emily. (but after what Carnevil said I'm not going to discount Onigiri even those his 'road' and riding style makes that even more unlikely.)

I dont think that agito will be the one to judge when someone is ready to wear a regalia, however he'll let them know if they are doing something stupid that could get them severely injured.

The thing with agito and kazu was just kazu being too full of vengeful emotions after the whole spitfire thing. Buccha is a pretty rational guy, i highly doubt he would use it unless he was ready, same with kazu at this point.

But as for emily and buccha, i think it just makes more sense time wise. Its much more plausible to believe that buccha could achieve kingship than emily. Emily has guts and strength, but her AT skills are still very basic.

On top of that, other than benkei, buccha is probably the one who knows most about the rumble road, since he was able to have a full out battle against dontores. Finally, i feel like if buccha doesnt become rumble king, there isnt really anything else he can become other than a powerhouse.

Emily on the other hand is a newbie who hasnt found her niche yet other than strength. Im looking forward to seeing her develop in her own way.

[Reincarnation]

lol so if yoshi is the second strongest good guy whos the first ???

..and seriously i hate to whine but why cant "The Hope " be kogagrasumaru in general instead of just ikki ??? stuff like that really pisses me off

[Carnevil]

lol so if yoshi is the second strongest good guy whos the first ???

..and seriously i hate to whine but why cant "The Hope " be kogagrasumaru in general instead of just ikki ??? stuff like that really pisses me off

I would go with Kiric yes he's a good guy. But did OG mean second strongest in the entire world or in Genesis or what?

You know why the hope has to be Ikki, because he's gary stu. Seriously it's been too many chapters since somebody has rode Ikki's nuts you should've saw this coming. God next chapter is going to be an Ikki blow fest I can feel it.

That's the only reason because if you think about, Yoshi was planning on taking out the winner of the GST. Even if it was Koga so why is ikki all of a sudden the hope, because OG hasn't had anybody ride Ikki's nuts in a while

[Reincarnation]

I would go with Kiric yes he's a good guy. But did OG mean second strongest in the entire world or in Genesis or what?

You know why the hope has to be Ikki, because he's gary stu. Seriously it's been too many chapters since somebody has rode Ikki's nuts you should've saw this coming. God next chapter is going to be an Ikki blow fest I can feel it.

I just thought of this, wasn't Yoshi planning on taking out the winner of the GST. Even if it was Koga so why is ikki all of a sudden the hope.
yeah technically he is but he still isnt fighting for the same thing as trident and koga so theres still a chance that its somebody else though i have no fucking clue who...but i swear if it turns out to be ikki i'll quit reading lol

[Carnevil]

yeah technically he is but he still isnt fighting for the same thing as trident and koga so theres still a chance that its somebody else though i have no fucking clue who...but i swear if it turns out to be ikki i'll quit reading lol

Dude you know full well it's going to happen. That's the reason I read for the art not the story. When the everybody is blowing a main character who takes shits in public and is d-bag^2 the story has officially failed.:) I'm kidding the story hasn't officially failed. But seriously I've never seen a character blown more than Ikki.

[windwaker]

Dude you know full well it's going to happen. That's the reason I read for the art not the story. When the everybody is blowing a main character who takes shits in public and is d-bag^2 the story has officially failed.:) I'm kidding the story hasn't officially failed. But seriously I've never seen a character blown more than Ikki.

I dont know, its pretty obvious how that its all just a facade he puts on for fun. Its not like he is really like that all the time, he's just fulling around.

When it comes down to it he can be pretty nice/chill/serious.

But all the ikki fapping can get annoying. however im surprised OG held it back so long.

And what is the meaning of yoshi being second strongest good guy. I mean....other than koga that leaves....kilik?

[Carnevil]

I dont know, its pretty obvious how that its all just a facade he puts on for fun. Its not like he is really like that all the time, he's just fulling around.

When it comes down to it he can be pretty nice/chill/serious.

But all the ikki fapping can get annoying. however im surprised OG held it back so long.

And what is the meaning of yoshi being second strongest good guy. I mean....other than koga that leaves....kilik?

What? It's far from a facade looks at this level of doucheness.
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/232/009/ I could give a lot of other examples of his douchebaggery. But this is just more recent.

[windwaker]

What? It's far from a facade looks at this level of doucheness.
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/232/009/ I could give a lot of other examples of his douchebaggery. But this is just more recent.

okayyy, he sees yoshi looking all badass on top of a burning building. So he pulls out the ole "HOW DARE HE LOOK MORE BADASS THAN ME!"

when things got serious he sobered up immediately.

I think thats just him having fun, its just part of who he is. There is still the serious side of ikki, and he's definitely supportive of his friends and teammates. Honestly i think the douchbaggeyness is part of what makes him a good leader, since he inspires his teammates through this.

He's had serious conversations with a bunch of characters. Its the ikki fapping that gives him such a bad rap.

Luckily his real friends are willing to tell him whats up when its necessary.
Example: http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/90/09/

[Reflector]

Luckily his real friends are willing to tell him whats up when its necessary.
Example: http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/90/09/

That was one of my favorite parts in the whole manga. I FUCK YEAH'd so hard when someone finally told what a huge douchebag that scrote is. I was already at that point totally anti-Ikki. I just can't stand how cocky the bitch is.

And yet OG blew it. In the next chapters, they find out that Ikki was just bluffing all along and is the " best leader, hope of the world, the new dawn, winds of change, skies of hope, wings of freedom blahblahblah" after all.

[Waking_Dreamer]

I like how Yoshi can be seen contemplating his plan and the possible results all the way from back to this time:

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/168/004/



And....I reckon Ikki....is alrite....

[windwaker]

That was one of my favorite parts in the whole manga. I FUCK YEAH'd so hard when someone finally told what a huge douchebag that scrote is. I was already at that point totally anti-Ikki. I just can't stand how cocky the bitch is.

And yet OG blew it. In the next chapters, they find out that Ikki was just bluffing all along and is the " best leader, hope of the world, the new dawn, winds of change, skies of hope, wings of freedom blahblahblah" after all.

I dont really like all the wings shit, but ikki is a good leader, and that was a good plan. Not telling his team about it was stupid though.

Is anyone looking forward to the next chapter now that this arc is over? I like yoshi, but i want to get back to Kogarasumaru.

[Carnevil]

Is anyone looking forward to the next chapter now that this arc is over? I like yoshi, but i want to get back to Kogarasumaru.

Fuck getting back to Koga, I want SF vs Genesis. If we get back to Koga it's just going to be an Ikki blow fest. I can't even imagine how bad it's going to be when SF loses and Ikki is the only one standing between Sora and the Sky Regalia.

[windwaker]

Fuck getting back to Koga, I want SF vs Genesis. If we get back to Koga it's just going to be an Ikki blow fest. I can't even imagine how bad it's going to be when SF loses and Ikki is the only one standing between Sora and the Sky Regalia.

I think if we get back to koga it is going to be about who's going to get the rumble regalia, or they will jump to the next match where someone will show rumble potential.

But actually, id rather have maybe one chapter to catch up with koga, THEN the SF vs. Genesis. Perhaps unveiling new characters, since Sora should have some good riders since he's perfectly willing to take out Yoshi, and gawain and percy were expendable.

[Nee'lahn]

Actually I think Ikki's less than cool qualities and general 'everyone is obsessed with them for no good apparent reason (I still want to know why Kazu and Ikki are such good friends and why Kazu is so loyal to a guy that picked and bullied him)' and his tendenciy to be a jerk or a moron is good for some of the other character to play off, like ceelbrating when someone told them the deal (of course Ikki actually had a masetr plan ¬.¬) But as predicatbleness of Ikki's storyline ad role it makes me more inetersted in the other characters and makes it even better when they achieve something. Ikki is a jerk/idiot for humour mainly. However Kiric better get back to giving him 0 points and Ume better resume the beatings! Ah I miss mikan now. I don't mind him when he is being serious the real of putter is just all the others making a big deal out of him- he's a middle school kid.

Despite what they may hail Ikki but at this point he can't have the rumble regalia which should mean time for other character development -less Ikki panels- and the whole team is needed in high level AT matches although another cube match would be great.

[windwaker]

Actually I think Ikki's less than cool qualities and general 'everyone is obsessed with them for no good apparent reason (I still want to know why Kazu and Ikki are such good friends and why Kazu is so loyal to a guy that picked and bullied him)' and his tendenciy to be a jerk or a moron is good for some of the other character to play off, like ceelbrating when someone told them the deal (of course Ikki actually had a masetr plan ¬.¬) But as predicatbleness of Ikki's storyline ad role it makes me more inetersted in the other characters and makes it even better when they achieve something. Ikki is a jerk/idiot for humour mainly. However Kiric better get back to giving him 0 points and Ume better resume the beatings! Ah I miss mikan now. I don't mind him when he is being serious the real of putter is just all the others making a big deal out of him- he's a middle school kid.

Despite what they may hail Ikki but at this point he can't have the rumble regalia which should mean time for other character development -less Ikki panels- and the whole team is needed in high level AT matches although another cube match would be great.

I think the reason kazu and ikki are friends is because when things get serious kazu comes through, or he'll say whats needed to be said. That and Ikki is one of the few people who really believe in kazu.

But yea, as far as main characters go i dont mind Ikki. But i like kazu, emily and buccha more. Mainly because they are more normal. And while obviously im always up for kazu fantasticness, im looking forward to seeing buccha develop, as well as emily's glorious return.

[bluerex21]

I must have missed something...

why did Benkei cut off her leg?

[t260z]

I must have missed something...

why did Benkei cut off her leg?

Cause the giant mech was holding her, it was digging into her leg and was probably goign to rip it off anyway; plus, she had to go with yoshitsune's plan to take down gawain and get her out of the way for what he would do later on.

Can you guys believe that yosh's wall was that strong!? Nowonder the army...president...and evryone-else in the world want the regalia. Maybe every soldier in the army will become stormriders soon!

[Toodle]

Well Well Well....
1.Yoshitune-kun did really well i guessed..Stoping Two Gravity-Children Whose Skills Are Pretty high off the scale,Whose Skills Made Many Believe Those 2 idiots Would Make it Big(Famous) In A-T History Whose skills are worthy to be called Kings..

-The Way Yoshitune Played With Gawain...
Was Really "Epic" in some sense..Reducing The Gladius Road Into some idiotic 3-year old plaything.. Air Gear 235-6-7 shows it all..

-The Way Yoshi Dodged Gawain's "Assasinationary" Attacks With Nothing But Empty Cans in the arcade Where The amount of space avaliable is pretty much limited for AT-Users To Simply Soar..Reinforce The Fact That Yoshi is not your daily steroids-pumped wannabe
He Plans,Improvises & Uses Hes Surroundings Till its Very Limits..

1.5 Yoshitune Not Only Proves He is intelligent,resourceful he shook much of us in awe
where he used his very own "Rumble Road" to repel/absorb the might of Perceival's Gundam Marcross GX-II (lol) Whose RailGun Delivers Rounds That Goes Beyond The Speed Of Light and was crownded the 2nd highest attainable speed in space..=The Impact(Force) alone generated from that sort of speeds would be sufficient enought to split an air-craft,an aircraft carrier into nothing but a pile of useless metallic junk in mere miliseconds.. or even a fraction..

As A result no doubt in 237, Yoshi managed to repel/absorb the impact and re-distrubute through his "big defense wall" but however .. he overdid it
-Possible Reasons For Overdoing the defense wall
*To Let Benikei Live, So that She Can Pass On The Will
Of The Western Samurai The Trident's Will..To The One That Never Gives Up Ikki-san The Hope ..Of The Fallen Kings..

And So in the process of becoming Osaka's Saviour..Yoshitune's body ...legs..feet
were all ripped and damaged...Weakened
==================================
Thats Where..The Nikey's Ceo Walks In ..With his Steroids Pumped Body..Freshly Served Yoshitune The Samurai The Finishing Blow..?Isn't Nike A Bloody Genius...Killing Off A Weakened King...Who Used Up Hes Every Ounce Of Strength to Save Osaka a whole Bloody State/province<- Killing Him In his Least Powerful moment..in his Least Capable Of Counterattacking ,defending........ In My Viewpoint, Sora's & Nike Plan Of "Rumble Gta4 Hijack"was not filled with the usual mix of Brilliance But...Cowardice..Cold-blooded
-Used the whole province as a hostage
- Innocent bystanders...elderly folks..air gear wannabes like u and me...


In An Utter Dishonarable Fashion, Sora & Gang Managed to take Down ..The Honarable one.. Which Utterly..Disgust me.. me..me alone
Still its just my own review...and my 3 cents on this Air Gear 237 !~ Dont Bash Me ...Nike's Fans..im pretty much as innocent as u .. i guess...just a different way of looking...at things My First Post Hope U All ..All AT-Riders AG -Lovers A Good Day & Bye

[GravityZero]

<_< seriously. nike vs yoshi could have been interesting.

[t260z]

<_< seriously. nike vs yoshi could have been interesting.

Damn straight! But after that, I don't think Yosh could move a thing...you guys think he would've been able to walk after that? Do you guys think Og exagerated how much power Yosh had? His regalia could stop something like that...but his toes could rip into it?

Anyway, if Nike vs Yosh had happened, it would've been one to remember.

[DNM]

shoot! damn right, but i think nikes being one of the gravity children and yoshs being just a normal guy would have affected that battle big time. I mean, look at all the gravity children, clearly much superior. Yosh had a great fighting spirit and also ego, but nike's ego is way bigger. hahaha.

[DNM]

I think that , since that Roaring Regalia was already gone, Nike just thought of finishing off Yosh because he would have been a big problem to them in the upcoming battles, dont you think.? But a better plan for the Takeuchi Brothers, i also think would have been just to use Trident for a while to eliminate a lot of their enemies. Trident could have weakened Sleeping Forest, just my opinion.