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lonewalker1004
09-13-2007, 10:27 AM
Spoiler Alert! This topic is meant for those who have read up to translated chapter 176.



So lets talk 176


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Nikku
09-13-2007, 04:22 PM
Well, i expected Ikki and co to have turned the match around by now, so it's certainly building up some tension. Seems like the "looking to the sky" has gone out the window now in favour of beating them up xD

lonewalker1004
09-13-2007, 06:45 PM
too bad its going sooo slow......... hopefully they finish the match in 3 mor matches or less


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Pistbag
09-13-2007, 07:10 PM
I want to see what happened to Kururu in the next chapter, but only for a page or two >_> I want to see them beat up the grown ups :)

check
09-13-2007, 07:29 PM
KILL THE OLD PEOPLE! i hope the plan works


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lonewalker1004
09-14-2007, 02:51 AM
i bet ikki n co r gonna do something crazy dat messes up w/ the database of white wolves clan

and yea i want to know wat happens to kururu too T-T


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pipoy22
09-14-2007, 04:20 PM
Wooot!!! Go Emily the Benchwarmer!!!


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Life
09-14-2007, 07:29 PM
As expected no info on the Kururu situation and a lot of talk by Ikki.


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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09-14-2007, 08:05 PM
yo know whats ticking me off, that ikki is like srsly full of fail atm lol
he was kicking so much *** when he fought ringo, but like where the hell did all the skill and stuff go

Life
09-15-2007, 03:14 AM
yo know whats ticking me off, that ikki is like srsly full of fail atm lol
he was kicking so much *** when he fought ringo, but like where the hell did all the skill and stuff go

After Ringo wasn't there to motivate him anymore he needed Kururu but look she ain't there either so he sucks as of now but he'll be kicking *** later.


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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09-15-2007, 01:07 PM
i dunno but even agito, wtf hes the fang king.....an a class rider wth is he doing lol he has his regalia blow everyone up!
lol

zxcvbn
09-15-2007, 02:37 PM
yo know whats ticking me off, that ikki is like srsly full of fail atm lol
he was kicking so much *** when he fought ringo, but like where the hell did all the skill and stuff go
Exactly. Earlier Ikki was shown as a king-level Rider, now he's been demoted in skill even though he's the 'Storm King'. Oh!Great lacks consistency in depicting his Stormriders' power levels. Like when Kilik defeating Sora without a scratch, and then was ***-kicked by Nike even though he(Kilik) was the strongest gravity child.

penguinism
09-15-2007, 03:25 PM
Exactly. Earlier Ikki was shown as a king-level Rider, now he's been demoted in skill even though he's the 'Storm King'. Oh!Great lacks consistency in depicting his Stormriders' power levels. Like when Kilik defeating Sora without a scratch, and then was ***-kicked by Nike even though he(Kilik) was the strongest gravity child.
ikki is still storm king level rider, he just got too used to relying on kururu's tuning...no matter how great a person is if they get set in a specific pattern of how things work they begin to lose their edge outside of that set pattern, thats exactly whats happening with ikki...its been like that through the whooooooooole manga he loses sight of his wings cuz he gets too caught up in how things are going

as for kilik...he lost to nike cuz he was trying to protect the wind regalia, not himself...like a person protecting a baby are they gonna care about their own safety or the protection of the baby? of course the baby, so as a result theyll get the crap beat out of them but the baby will be fine...AND thats just a best guess how the fight went down, we have no clue really just that kilik was too busy trying to get away with teh wind regalia to fight back

zxcvbn
09-15-2007, 11:21 PM
ikki is still storm king level rider, he just got too used to relying on kururu's tuning...no matter how great a person is if they get set in a specific pattern of how things work they begin to lose their edge outside of that set pattern, thats exactly whats happening with ikki...its been like that through the whooooooooole manga he loses sight of his wings cuz he gets too caught up in how things are going
What are you talking about? Ikki hasn't been tuned a single time yet.
The most Kururu's done for him is repair his ATs. Also, even when he 'lost sight of his wings' he was still able to nearly whoop Ringo's a**.


as for kilik...he lost to nike cuz he was trying to protect the wind regalia, not himself...like a person protecting a baby are they gonna care about their own safety or the protection of the baby? of course the baby, so as a result theyll get the crap beat out of them but the baby will be fine...AND thats just a best guess how the fight went down, we have no clue really just that kilik was too busy trying to get away with teh wind regalia to fight back
I doubt Kilik would treat somebody else's regalia as his 'baby'. Atleast he wouldn't give it more importance than his own regalia, which he lost trying to get away.

SHInoSHIkamaru
09-15-2007, 11:26 PM
Exactly. Earlier Ikki was shown as a king-level Rider, now he's been demoted in skill even though he's the 'Storm King'. Oh!Great lacks consistency in depicting his Stormriders' power levels. Like when Kilik defeating Sora without a scratch, and then was ***-kicked by Nike even though he(Kilik) was the strongest gravity child.

Just wondering if you actually read the manga carefully???, Kilik is the strongest gravity child, why do I know that, because Kilik fought against all sleeping forest members almost at the same time, except Rika and Ine, and took all of their regalias away from them. Right after he took them away Nike showed up when Kilik was weak and took the Gem Regalia's away from Kilik. That's why Sora lost the Bagram and took Spitfire a while to reclaim his Flame Regalia.

rasenshuriken
09-15-2007, 11:31 PM
i think ikki will win,
the old guys suck ***.
but of course its for the author to decide the winner.

penguinism
09-16-2007, 12:06 AM
What are you talking about? Ikki hasn't been tuned a single time yet.
The most Kururu's done for him is repair his ATs. Also, even when he 'lost sight of his wings' he was still able to nearly whoop Ringo's a**.

it was just an example, she may not physically be tuning them while they train, but they all know shes there to tune for them if they need it...which whether u wanna admit it or not any person in the world if they know someone will pick up their slack, theyll gradually start to slack more and more and rely more adn more on the person

anyway it was just an example that ikki is too cocky, when people get cocky they lose their edge

I doubt Kilik would treat somebody else's regalia as his 'baby'. Atleast he wouldn't give it more importance than his own regalia, which he lost trying to get away.
believe it or not, it happened...cant remember the exact chapter but it was told to us

zxcvbn
09-16-2007, 04:02 AM
Just wondering if you actually read the manga carefully???, Kilik is the strongest gravity child, why do I know that, because Kilik fought against all sleeping forest members almost at the same time, except Rika and Ine, and took all of their regalias away from them. Right after he took them away Nike showed up when Kilik was weak and took the Gem Regalia's away from Kilik. That's why Sora lost the Bagram and took Spitfire a while to reclaim his Flame Regalia.
Yes, I've read the manga carefully and I suggest you reread those chapters. Kilik didn't defeat the old Sleeping Forest alone. He had four Gravity Children helping him. he only fought Sora man-to-man and didn't recieve a scratch. Then Nike comes along and beats him up. I see an inconsistency in rider strength there.

SHInoSHIkamaru
09-16-2007, 05:36 AM
Yes, I've read the manga carefully and I suggest you reread those chapters. Kilik didn't defeat the old Sleeping Forest alone. He had four Gravity Children helping him. he only fought Sora man-to-man and didn't recieve a scratch. Then Nike comes along and beats him up. I see an inconsistency in rider strength there.

Yeah, I know about those 4 Gravity Children, they are also current members of the Sleeping Forest. I did reread it and it seemed that Nike came right after the fight. It seems that Nike was full of rage in that fight while Kilik was surprised and unprepared to see some Sora look alike to come along(Remember they forgot about Nike). Emotions play a big role in battles too. Well, that's I believe.

zxcvbn
09-16-2007, 11:10 AM
It seems that Nike was full of rage in that fight while Kilik was surprised and unprepared to see some Sora look alike to come along(Remember they forgot about Nike). Emotions play a big role in battles too. Well, that's I believe.
If Nike was in a stage of uncontrollable anger rage wouldn't he slip up and make mistakes more easily? This should have given Kilik the advantage as he remained calm and rational.

And I doubt Nike's memory was magically erased from everone's brains. Kilk probably was simply surprised that Sora's brother had suddenly come out of the woodwork.

penguinism
09-16-2007, 11:56 AM
as said: believe it or not all u want zxc, its stated as a fact that kilik was too busy trying to run away with the regalia defending himself to fight back

SHInoSHIkamaru
09-16-2007, 01:34 PM
If Nike was in a stage of uncontrollable anger rage wouldn't he slip up and make mistakes more easily? This should have given Kilik the advantage as he remained calm and rational.

And I doubt Nike's memory was magically erased from everone's brains. Kilk probably was simply surprised that Sora's brother had suddenly come out of the woodwork.

No, i mean they forgot about Nike because he left Japan, I think you know that. Nike was really an unimportant character behind the shadows of Sora. How do you remember a person hiding behind in the shadows. That's why Kilik was surprised to be attacked by Nike because he had forgotten that Sora had a twin.

Also, Kilik was trying to protect the Bagrams from Nike. He didn't want Nike to get the Bagrams and it cost him the battle. The reason for Kilik's loss against Nike, I believe is that he just defeated Sora, Surprised Nike showed up and just started to attack him, and was trying to protect the Bagrams at all costs. Protecting things during battle is also a hard thing to do.

Life
09-16-2007, 11:04 PM
No, i mean they forgot about Nike because he left Japan, I think you know that. Nike was really an unimportant character behind the shadows of Sora. How do you remember a person hiding behind in the shadows. That's why Kilik was surprised to be attacked by Nike because he had forgotten that Sora had a twin.

Also, Kilik was trying to protect the Bagrams from Nike. He didn't want Nike to get the Bagrams and it cost him the battle. The reason for Kilik's loss against Nike, I believe is that he just defeated Sora, Surprised Nike showed up and just started to attack him, and was trying to protect the Bagrams at all costs. Protecting things during battle is also a hard thing to do.

Thats the exact reason why he lost to Nike I mean he ****ed basically everyone up and they admitted he could but yet the came and got the *** kicking they deserved and foreshadowed for too long. Nike just pooped up and started beserking like theres no tommorow and then when Kilik got his *** kicked he took the regs and got happy that he has a trophy of his mastery over a guy that didn't fight him.