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penguinism
09-08-2007, 11:40 AM
dunno i was re-reading the sleeping forest bit with kilik yesterday
i found it kind of weird its named the sky regalia, and the first they did after the guy died was go and see the sky...so far all the regalia have fit their name, as far as abilities...kilik also mentions that the sky regalia isnt some powerful treasure at the end of the game
so heres my theory:
that the sky regalia isnt that good at all, and it has NOTHING to do with the sky, that it was named the sky regalia because of how they went to see the sky due to its existance
i think more-so on top of that, all the regalias were used to move in that area right? i think all the different types of regalia were to develop the best way of movement in there, like using friction in the flame road, using wind in the wind road, using the ground in gem, etc...i think the sky regalia was the final product of that research, not necessarily strong AT wise but just the finished result of the research
Raenef
09-08-2007, 05:35 PM
strength-wise, i'd like to think that they're all the same. or more like just a massive potentiality- it depends on the ability of the rider [King] and how well-tuned it is to the rider.
assuming that one of the current or possibly upcoming kings[the most skilled rider obviously] will possess the sky regalia, that increases the potent power of it alot. plus in tuned with the help of Pledge King/Queen will increase that even more...............
yeah...so...basically...i think, sky regalia has more potent powers. :D
and..btw..i think it's probably similar to Wind regs. As you've seen from previous Kingship and their road and their regalia..they are all in a way related.
that it was named the sky regalia because of how they went to see the sky due to its existance
i doubt this. very much. kilik suggested to see the sky, for the first time. this was when they've committed the murder of that man who had the sky regalia. either or, i'd bet on the possibility that that was just another way of saying let's get out of here. plus, the place was falling apart AND not to mention a bunch of kids' curiousity to something so huge for the first time in their life.
that was my share of the thought. but urs makes alot of logical sense..i can't refute much..=[ no fun...TT TT
Hyuver
09-09-2007, 07:53 AM
Somehow I hope and think that Sky Regalia wasn't an AT or the part like the wheels
It's gonna be lame if Ikki and co just throw away their old AT because there are one stronger than the one they use, and change their road immediatly, I hope it maybe some sort equipment for AT, when it's attached maybe it will boost their AT performance
Raenef
09-09-2007, 09:48 AM
they're probably wheels. like how kururu did to bagrahm, she can make the sky regs feel like ikki's old AT...and like...make it UBER! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG >_<
penguinism
09-09-2007, 11:39 AM
all the regalia are just wheels....all AT's are, are wheels lol, the boots do nothing more than hold the wheels xD but the engine of the at etc are located in the wheels
Katsuomori
09-09-2007, 11:41 PM
I don't really know whether it's completed or not. Or perhaps it's completed in sense of research being imprinted on research documents and blueprints of it's construction. More over, I'm rather curious over something. The sky regelia is inside a briefcase which is still held by a dead professor (as seen a mummy tangled by wires) and it's still remained untouched. Kilik and the SP members are there and they never did use the regelia at all since it's the perfect opporcunity to use it. Sora tried to reach it once and was defeated greatly by Kilik before he managed to hold that sky. Still I have no idea what it may be or it's ability. After all there are many regelias (some are waiting to be found, assembled and rebulid) out there and 8 original regelias is what we commonly known.
Anyway, I'm not sure what it is or anyone had ever seen it before but it does sound powerful.
Black Rabbit
09-10-2007, 02:25 AM
i think the sky regalia in the end should be a kite....just a plain old kite...i think that would the funniest thing ever. all these people die and get hurt over a damn kite. but yeah thats what i want to see.
fyi: i drank too much.
Nikku
09-12-2007, 10:23 AM
Killik always seemed to portray it as something highly dangerous....i think it will be a part so powereful and simple that none of them will be able to use it, and end up sitting there basking in it's beauty... ^^
zxcvbn
09-13-2007, 06:04 AM
The Sky Regalia is probably some very powerful weapon that can manipulate wind on a massive scale(can't see any other reason why even foreign governments are after it). Kilik called it 'the Regalia of Regalias', so it's probably something that can literally turn a rider into a Wind God.
I wonder if any of the Gravity Children know what the Sky Regalia is, considering it was part of the research that created them?
Katsuomori
09-13-2007, 06:32 AM
I don't think that they knew about that... all they knew that it's powerful.
Strangely... none of the current SP members have taken a peek at that briefcase.
lonewalker1004
09-13-2007, 10:39 AM
instead of a regalia or blueprint
there is a possibility to giv out a map of another research lab that is secretly underground
if it is the story is continued ^-^
but if it is a actual regalia then wouldnt the story end just like that? since ikki will b the most powerful????
Satralis
09-13-2007, 01:08 PM
Regarding Ikki changing roads: its quite possible imo that as he hinted earlier he no longer longs for a better AT or a regalia, and it seems that he completely understood what Ringo told him through the beating (:p) and the fact that he wants to defeat SF is that he also saw how Ringo suffers from the very rules that bind her and the wrong side of SF but not for the main prize i think.
The sky king rises when all the other kings are gathered or so the legend says. So the sky regalia may be some kind of union of the other regalias and as such can not be defeated by any of them. What counters this theory is that all the roads are different in a way so the sky king should prolly be able to master all the roads and thus become the king of kings but in this way there wouldnt be anyone capable to use it properly (i doubt that the scientists intentions were to create such items). But its clear that some roads are stronger than others eventhough i agree that the rider is a big factor too, but if we consider 2 riders with same skills but 2 different regalias theres still a difference. But since the sky regalia is the final product of the research that produced the other regalias, it should be countaining the other regalias best abilities without their disadvantages. Like the need for given circumstances to launch an attack (the fang requires a solid surface to creat fiction).
OR
If we consider that Ikki has the potential and its because he follows a similar road to Sora (in terms of wind using) to become the sky king than the sky regalia may be able to liberate the rider from the land completely making him able to use the air as a solid substance. Some kind of amplifier for the wind users ability. And since all the other regs are useing the air to launch attacks (even the water regs bubbles are functioning with hihg speed wind rotating in them) if the sky king would be able to control every wind at his will than it would explain why it is the strongest of all the regalias... i thought it that far.
Katsuomori
09-14-2007, 02:47 AM
Regarding Ikki changing roads: its quite possible imo that as he hinted earlier he no longer longs for a better AT or a regalia, and it seems that he completely understood what Ringo told him through the beating (:p) and the fact that he wants to defeat SF is that he also saw how Ringo suffers from the very rules that bind her and the wrong side of SF but not for the main prize i think.
The sky king rises when all the other kings are gathered or so the legend says. So the sky regalia may be some kind of union of the other regalias and as such can not be defeated by any of them. What counters this theory is that all the roads are different in a way so the sky king should prolly be able to master all the roads and thus become the king of kings but in this way there wouldnt be anyone capable to use it properly (i doubt that the scientists intentions were to create such items). But its clear that some roads are stronger than others eventhough i agree that the rider is a big factor too, but if we consider 2 riders with same skills but 2 different regalias theres still a difference. But since the sky regalia is the final product of the research that produced the other regalias, it should be countaining the other regalias best abilities without their disadvantages. Like the need for given circumstances to launch an attack (the fang requires a solid surface to creat fiction).
OR
If we consider that Ikki has the potential and its because he follows a similar road to Sora (in terms of wind using) to become the sky king than the sky regalia may be able to liberate the rider from the land completely making him able to use the air as a solid substance. Some kind of amplifier for the wind users ability. And since all the other regs are useing the air to launch attacks (even the water regs bubbles are functioning with hihg speed wind rotating in them) if the sky king would be able to control every wind at his will than it would explain why it is the strongest of all the regalias... i thought it that far.
Hmmm... something like a universal regelia that enables the user to do any tricks from any road they want. Hmmm... for all I know is that it has something to do with the infinite atmosphere which the original 8 shares in common.
Agito♫
09-20-2007, 09:30 PM
Hopefully, OG won't disappoint us and go on to make it so the sky regalia is boring.
davotix
09-21-2007, 12:54 AM
Don't believe them!
Theres a cookie inside!
but seriously i think its empty.
Katsuomori
09-21-2007, 09:10 AM
Maybe it's empty or maybe it's filled with blueprints. If it's empty then someone must have taken it? Kilik? Nah... I don't think he would do that. ^^
escarta69
09-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Regarding Ikki changing roads: its quite possible imo that as he hinted earlier he no longer longs for a better AT or a regalia, and it seems that he completely understood what Ringo told him through the beating (:p) and the fact that he wants to defeat SF is that he also saw how Ringo suffers from the very rules that bind her and the wrong side of SF but not for the main prize i think.
The sky king rises when all the other kings are gathered or so the legend says. So the sky regalia may be some kind of union of the other regalias and as such can not be defeated by any of them. What counters this theory is that all the roads are different in a way so the sky king should prolly be able to master all the roads and thus become the king of kings but in this way there wouldnt be anyone capable to use it properly (i doubt that the scientists intentions were to create such items). But its clear that some roads are stronger than others eventhough i agree that the rider is a big factor too, but if we consider 2 riders with same skills but 2 different regalias theres still a difference. But since the sky regalia is the final product of the research that produced the other regalias, it should be countaining the other regalias best abilities without their disadvantages. Like the need for given circumstances to launch an attack (the fang requires a solid surface to creat fiction).
OR
If we consider that Ikki has the potential and its because he follows a similar road to Sora (in terms of wind using) to become the sky king than the sky regalia may be able to liberate the rider from the land completely making him able to use the air as a solid substance. Some kind of amplifier for the wind users ability. And since all the other regs are useing the air to launch attacks (even the water regs bubbles are functioning with hihg speed wind rotating in them) if the sky king would be able to control every wind at his will than it would explain why it is the strongest of all the regalias... i thought it that far.
I love your idea on that but why can't be "and" instead of "or" cause that would just be crazy sic
zxcvbn
09-21-2007, 04:13 PM
After seeing what is probably the Pledge Regalia in chapter 178, I'm beginning to think that the Sky Regalia isn't just a pair of ATs. Maybe inside that suitcase there is some control/triggering device that sets of a bunch of pre-planted instruments all over the world and allows the user to manipulate wind on a global scale? I know, far-fetched, but it would explain why even the U.S. Government wants it.
Setsuna
09-22-2007, 10:57 PM
OG shouldn't have the manga end after Ikki gets the sky regalia, but instead, elaborate on how he masters it and the like.
Info from wikipedia:
There appears to be confusion with regards to the position of Sky King and the Wing Road. The king of the Wing Road is the Wind King. The status of Wind King is not a pre-requisite to becoming the Sky King, however because the Wing Road is considered the "Purest" road most expect the Wind King to become Sky King. It is currently assumed that no one has been crowned as the Sky King in the past. Sora Takeuchi was close, but failed due to the betrayal of Kilik. It s said that all eight kings would like the one who walks the Wing Road to be king because all regalia depend on the wind to function.
There is much speculation on the Sky King title and its abilities . Even the reason necessitating the unification of all eight kings for the Sky King to appear or the crowning of the Sky King from one of the eight Kings. It has been speculated that the reason behind the unification of the Kings is the AT parts all 8 Kings give to create the Sky regalia, since its implied that the Sky King will unify all 8 roads and Kings unlocking the gates to the heaven's. Kilik's theft of all 8 regalia cores further supports the hypothesis that all 8 King's regalia is necessary for the creation of the Sky regalia. What parts of the regalia's needed is unknown as is the Sky regalia's core/abilities, though it has been speculated the Sky King can utilize all 8 road's abilities/functions on command and their attributes with regards to the wind. Including the ability to nullify all 8 regalia's infinity atmosphere attacks which would correspond to the Sky King's title "supremacy" over all 8 road's and regalia's." Sora Takeuchi was the prime candidate for the Sky King title but with kilik's betrayal and crippling of Sora the next best candidate for the title went to Ikki Minami
remanzuo
10-07-2007, 05:07 PM
There's a rumor that says Sky Regalia can cancel out other regalia infinite atmosphere, that's why it was deadly....just like when Sora cancel out Spit Fire infinite atmosphere ( Infinite Inferno )
KurptRaj
10-08-2007, 08:08 PM
I these idea, and the fact you got some stuff to back it up!
maybe just for fun, Ikik gets his Dragonball z on, and just summons a crap load of energy ( wind ) and then is just able to control his own "potietional" power that was in side of him? but i think "Satralis" Had the best idea lol
HurricaneRoad
01-07-2008, 06:05 PM
i have my own theori but i can be that u guys think its silly but its that there maybe isnt any sky regalia.. because it could be that it is meant to be that the person who wins the Tournament has perfected his road and on his own found his way to the sky... or maybe the old man has something to do with the it..
JackApostrophe
02-04-2008, 09:56 AM
The thing that immediately comes to mind for me is gravity control. ATs were designed for movement in null-g, and the ultimate form of that would be actually manipulating gravity to allow you to move freely.
It ties in with the fact that what Ikki has really wanted all along is actually the ability to fly in the sky, and also that he's skilled at manipulating his own centre of gravity. And it also explains why so many people are after the Sky Regalia... gravity control has applications for almost anything, and especially for the military.
It's not necessarily an actual AT part, of course, even if I'm right. It could just be the designs for gravity control technology. But I think it makes sense as the ultimate goal of the AT researchers.
Jakkin
02-04-2008, 12:28 PM
i think the sky regalia in the end should be a kite....just a plain old kite...i think that would the funniest thing ever. all these people die and get hurt over a damn kite. but yeah thats what i want to see.
fyi: i drank too much.
I was hoping for it to be a Popsicle.
9taileddemon
02-16-2008, 04:30 PM
I think that the sky regalia may be a group of parts that just are used to strengthen the Regalia of the one who gets them to amazing power. Because I don't think that the sky regalia should make it so a rider has to obsolete their own road. I think that it just strengthens the users current Road to insane power levels.
Or it could be that it makes you use a new road but then you can combine your new and old road into a brand new Mega Road.
Hurricane Road plus Sky Road = Maelstorm Road.
(Yes I do know a Maelstrom is a humongous whirlpool but a Maelstorm could be like some kind of gigantic tornado/hurricane monstrosity.
penguinism
02-16-2008, 04:39 PM
I think that the sky regalia may be a group of parts that just are used to strengthen the Regalia of the one who gets them to amazing power. Because I don't think that the sky regalia should make it so a rider has to obsolete their own road. I think that it just strengthens the users current Road to insane power levels.
Or it could be that it makes you use a new road but then you can combine your new and old road into a brand new Mega Road.
Hurricane Road plus Sky Road = Maelstorm Road.
(Yes I do know a Maelstrom is a humongous whirlpool but a Maelstorm could be like some kind of gigantic tornado/hurricane monstrosity.
the only problem with ur theory is kilik has already said in the manga that the sky regalia ISNT some power up
9taileddemon
02-16-2008, 06:06 PM
He did? I guess I will have to go back and read that section again.
I just remember him saying that it was not some treasure.
That briefcase just seems so small that it made me think of something that could only hold small objects like small parts.
penguinism
02-16-2008, 06:11 PM
reglia are only the wheels...so by going off the logic of size u can just say the sky regalia is a full regalia not just parts to increase a current regalia -_-
and kilik says:
"Did you think the sky regalia was some kind of invincible weapon used by a TV hero?"
9taileddemon
02-16-2008, 06:26 PM
So the pledge Regalia is a set of wheels? And the Thunder Regalia is also a set of wheels?
Hmm. That seems odd.
I do understand what you mean though. Lets see...
Horn, Water, Wind, Thorn, Flame, Fang, Gem, and Rumble are all based on the wheels so I guess that is basically true. But who knows. We don't know about the Storm Regalia, that might also be different.
And I don't think that even if you got a super power road it would make you invincible. As usual it would probably make your body fall apart pretty quickly and there must be some type of weakness or some way to stop it.
But I still think it will of course make the user extremely strong. I mean why else would everyone want it.
penguinism
02-16-2008, 06:34 PM
every1 wants it cuz no one knows what it is...only kilik actually knows
its that whole mystery aspect that makes people want it...kilik knows what it is and he prevents any1 from having it...so of course every1 wants it...then there were all the rumors that sora spread about it to get people to rush tropheum the first time
9taileddemon
02-16-2008, 06:43 PM
Well if it wasn't something really powerful then why would Kilik say that it would change the whole world if it was released. It think all of the previous members of Sleeping Forest know what it is but they all refuse to actually tell us what it is exactly.
penguinism
02-16-2008, 06:51 PM
maybe because once people realize WHAT ating is really about, the whole world will be changed? as in what the experiments with AT's were made for
9taileddemon
02-16-2008, 07:04 PM
Well the militaries around the world have been using the secrets of ATs ever since the GCs escaped the tower. Kilik and the rest of Sleeping Forest talked about it.
The ATs are used so that energy loss is brought to zero. This would make any weapon so much more powerful. Maybe the Sky Regalia has something about it that other militaries could copy and thus use it to destroy other militaries and make their nation really strong. Maybe it is the completed form of the process that makes energy loss zero.
!!!!! Wait a second. In Ch. 193 they say that the Regalia and the GC work together as a pair to make the energy loss zero. They work together to make that energy converter thing work.
Perhaps the sky Regalia makes it so that anyone can use it not just the GCs. If you could copy that you could make an army of Riders that are acting like GCs with Regalias. Maybe that is why Sora wants it. He wishes to create an army. And Kilik will not let him.
It also would explain why Spitfire and others at first wanted to release it. If everyone is like a Gravity Child then everyone can fly. Also that would mean that if everyone could be like a gravity child then the Gravity Children could be like everyone else. That is what Nue wants right.
Brilliant.
DarkPriest
02-17-2008, 12:03 AM
from reading the last chapter i come with the idea that the Sky Regelia is so powerful because is not only stooping the energy lost to zero but it can make energy from zero.
9taileddemon
02-17-2008, 01:17 AM
I don't know about creating energy from zero because doesn't that defy the laws of physics. Even though Oh!Great has some crazy science principles in Air Gear he still seems to try to stay with the basic principles of physics.
I still think that it makes even a normal person be able to act like a GC.
The only thing that concerns/confuses me is why do they need those 8 Roads? And why only those 8? Why not the Horn and Water Regalias. Aren't those Regalia as well. That still bugs me.
cheapraymond
02-20-2008, 09:14 PM
isn't the horn and water regalia like a branch of the 8 roads somehow??? like the horn regalia is similar to the fang regalia in some ways in how it uses braking heat to create its force (?) i'm not sure about the water regalia though...
and i'm guessing the 8 roads just mean that those are the 8 main roads that tie with the sky the most?
9taileddemon
02-21-2008, 01:31 AM
Well they say that there are many roads. The 8 main roads are the ones that utilizize the wind to use their power. Now a ninth road, Storm Road, has also appeared.
I guess Lather road is considered more a water than air road and horn uses energy kicks that are like light attacks rather than air like the fangs. You can't use the wing road on a "horn" I guess.
But this helps explain the nature of Regalia I guess.
Since they are still considered Regalia, I guess you could say that a Regalia is just any AT made for a GC. That means there could be a ton of regalias that we do not know of.
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