Question about the Thunder King???

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I'm just wondering about a few things about the Thunder King of the Rising Road.
The current Thunder King is Nue, leader of Black Crow. His regalia is a suit that covers his whole body right?? Then the thing that his regalia can do is make static electricity and make those wire right? Then the thing I don't understand is on how can someone claim that regalia? There aren't any known riders that can make electricity, those wires, and hallucinations without that regalia.
What I'm trying to say is that Ikki can see the Wing Road without the wind regalia right. That's why he was chosen to take the wind regalia. Agito/Akito was able to do the leviathon without the Fang Regalia, that's why he was also chosen to be the Fang King. Also Kazu is was able to run the Flame Road at least once, that's why he has the Flame Regalia now right. Then how are you suppose to claim the Thunder Regalia?? What is the Rising Road??
Also when they first introuduced Nue during the Behemoth parts war you can see that he has the Thunder Regalia but not the whole suit.(Go to volume 8 Trick 61) So i don't really believe that the suit is really part of the Thunder Regalia and only the ATs. Also Blackburn, (the Thunder King during Sleeping Forest) didn't have that suit.
The only real thing i am wondering is on how a rider can claim the Thunder Regalia really.

[neverend]

become like pikachu.....
maybe

[zxcvbn]

The thing is, Air Gear is one of those manga where characters have superhuman abilities which are explained through pseudo-science. When you think about it, NONE of the explanations Oh!Great gives for the Roads and Regalia hold up when you scrutinize them with real world laws of science.:mdr:

About the thunder regalia, the only explanation is that other users of the Rising/Thunder Road(without the Regalia) generate static electricity from the rubbing of their AT wheels with various surfaces(same way Flame Road users create flames from friction) and then redirect the electricity using power lines, conductors etc. in their environment.

As for the old thunder king not wearing a suit, I think he was merely covering it with his robe or was not wearing it when not in combat.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

Yeah, I guess that is the only way that a rider can generate static electricity. I like your explanation. But I don't really believe that the whole suit may be part of the regalia. Didn't you check out Volume 8 Trick 61?? Nue doesn't have the whole suit on but only At's when it is reacting to Ringo. I think that the Tuner just added the whole suit just to fit Nue. Isn't that what the Tuner's job is to do, to make the regalia fit the King. That's my guess on the Thunder Regalia.

[Katsuomori]

I'm just wondering about a few things about the Thunder King of the Rising Road.
The current Thunder King is Nue, leader of Black Crow. His regalia is a suit that covers his whole body right?? Then the thing that his regalia can do is make static electricity and make those wire right? Then the thing I don't understand is on how can someone claim that regalia? There aren't any known riders that can make electricity, those wires, and hallucinations without that regalia.
What I'm trying to say is that Ikki can see the Wing Road without the wind regalia right. That's why he was chosen to take the wind regalia. Agito/Akito was able to do the leviathon without the Fang Regalia, that's why he was also chosen to be the Fang King. Also Kazu is was able to run the Flame Road at least once, that's why he has the Flame Regalia now right. Then how are you suppose to claim the Thunder Regalia?? What is the Rising Road??
Also when they first introuduced Nue during the Behemoth parts war you can see that he has the Thunder Regalia but not the whole suit.(Go to volume 8 Trick 61) So i don't really believe that the suit is really part of the Thunder Regalia and only the ATs. Also Blackburn, (the Thunder King during Sleeping Forest) didn't have that suit.
The only real thing i am wondering is on how a rider can claim the Thunder Regalia really.


It was mentioned before that kings use their regelias as the regelias enables them to release their full potential. But theer are times when a king over use the regelia, the regelia can claim the king's life or perhaps at least damage him in some way. Sonya Road causes the rider to feel unspeakable pain after a several use and sometimes it does cause the same pain applied to the opponent to the rider. Nue was the unfortunate one. That suit operates as his life support system and the part of the tool to release the regelia's power with ease or to emit his wire attacks. But still, he needed his tuner to check his condition before he uses the regelia's power again. That's why after he uses his full power on the Horn King, he was exhausted and in pain.

In other words, the regelia can cause some damage or side effects upon the king if the king overused it. As for Blackburn, I don't think he actually did overuse his thunder regelia and so he don't need that suit.

[zxcvbn]

But I don't really believe that the whole suit may be part of the regalia. Didn't you check out Volume 8 Trick 61?? Nue doesn't have the whole suit on but only At's when it is reacting to Ringo.

So? It's possible that Nue wasn't wearing his regalia at that time, only normal ATs. Kings don't need to carry their regalia with them all the time. Yo****sune wasn't wearing his regalia when he was training Kogarasamaru.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

It was mentioned before that kings use their regelias as the regelias enables them to release their full potential. But theer are times when a king over use the regelia, the regelia can claim the king's life or perhaps at least damage him in some way. Sonya Road causes the rider to feel unspeakable pain after a several use and sometimes it does cause the same pain applied to the opponent to the rider. Nue was the unfortunate one. That suit operates as his life support system and the part of the tool to release the regelia's power with ease or to emit his wire attacks. But still, he needed his tuner to check his condition before he uses the regelia's power again. That's why after he uses his full power on the Hatchet King, he was exhausted and in pain.

In other words, the regelia can cause some damage or side effects upon the king if the king overused it. As for Blackburn, I don't think he actually did overuse his thunder regelia and so he don't need that suit.

I get it, so that's why Nue was wearing a suit. He probably did overuse the regalia and was forced to were a suit. So the suit isn't really part of the regalia. His Tuner probably created it for him. Thanks that helps alot. But Rika was in pain using the Sonia Road against Ikki even though she wasn't wearing ATs. And when Ringo was using it, well you saw what happened to her after her battle with Ikki, she was in a lot of pain. She really did over use the Regalia. Also when Akira was using the Fang Regalia he had some external bleeding in his legs.
I wonder what side effects the Wind and Flame Regalia will have. I don't really see how those two Regalia can have some side effects on it's user. I can kinda see how the Ram Jet (Rumble Regalia for those that don't know) can hurt it's user directing wind, which may hurt it's users leg.
Also back to the main point, I guess that thsoe two Regalias, the Thorn Reaper(Thorn Regalia for those that don't know) and Thunder Regalia(I don't know it's name yet) really do cause a big strain on it's user just as you stated.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

So? It's possible that Nue wasn't wearing his regalia at that time, only normal ATs. Kings don't need to carry their regalia with them all the time. Yo****sune wasn't wearing his regalia when he was training Kogarasamaru.

Are you paying attention to what i just said?? I said go to volume 8 Trick 61 for a third time. In the picture Nue's Regalia was reacting to Ringo. Just as Spitfire's Regalia was reacting also. So Nue was wearing his regalia at that time and there is no suit. I know that Kings don't always wear their Regalia. Just look at Ringo, she doesn't wear much. Also Agito, he doesn't carry the Bloody Armor all the time with him. He's wearing his normal ATs that he wears from the start of the manga.

[zxcvbn]

Are you paying attention to what i just said?? I said go to volume 8 Trick 61 for a third time. In the picture Nue's Regalia was reacting to Ringo. Just as Spitfire's Regalia was reacting also. So Nue was wearing his regalia at that time and there is no suit. I know that Kings don't always wear their Regalia. Just look at Ringo, she doesn't wear much. Also Agito, he doesn't carry the Bloody Armor all the time with him. He's wearing his normal ATs that he wears from the start of the manga.
Hmm...in that case maybe the leather suit isn't really a part of the Regalia, but is simply worn to protect the user from being electrocuted by the static electricity(leather is a nonconducting material)? Not absolutely necessary, but a useful safety measure.

[Katsuomori]

I get it, so that's why Nue was wearing a suit. He probably did overuse the regalia and was forced to were a suit. So the suit isn't really part of the regalia. His Tuner probably created it for him. Thanks that helps alot. But Rika was in pain using the Sonia Road against Ikki even though she wasn't wearing ATs. And when Ringo was using it, well you saw what happened to her after her battle with Ikki, she was in a lot of pain. She really did over use the Regalia. Also when Akira was using the Fang Regalia he had some external bleeding in his legs.
I wonder what side effects the Wind and Flame Regalia will have. I don't really see how those two Regalia can have some side effects on it's user. I can kinda see how the Ram Jet (Rumble Regalia for those that don't know) can hurt it's user directing wind, which may hurt it's users leg.
Also back to the main point, I guess that thsoe two Regalias, the Thorn Reaper(Thorn Regalia for those that don't know) and Thunder Regalia(I don't know it's name yet) really do cause a big strain on it's user just as you stated.

Well, yes... Ringo did over use her regelia and so she couldn't stand up or walk (refer to teh after math of Ringo and Ikki battle) but she's fortunate enough to use her power in a certain limit and so her condition isn't that too critical. But it may cause her paralysis after she really did over used it to the maximum (beyond the limit). Sonya road even in minimum use can hurt the user and so as the Ram jet. But the worst can ever happen when the user over used it over it's limit as either the regelia will be destroyed or perhaps it'll cause some serious damage towards the user. It depends on the specific regelia of specific roads. Sonya road uses nitrogen and transfered it to the rider's spine which enables the rider to have super reflexes and speed but in return causes damage to the rider (pain and in worst case senarios paralysis temperory or perment). Ram jet uses the same principle as the fang road. It just transfer a huge amount of energy to the users leg causing strain and thus if over used it will cause his leg as well.

It's unknown what effects that the flame and wing regelias will do to it's user. But as I could say is that Nue did over use his regelia beyond his limit. That suit is like a life support system which not only supports him but also enables his tuner to analyze his condition and the condition of the regelia (before allowing him to use his regelia to it's full potential and also to inform him about how much power he can use). From what I can see, I do also find it as a part of the weaponary tool to enable him to release his regelia's full potential (like an amplifier to his electric current) to his enemy.

I think some regelias does give some unpleasant side effects upon it's user. Perhaps it would be life threatening when it's beyond it's full potential.

[Victory]

I don't think Nue actually generates electrictricity but instead a magnetic field which you see in the anime with Kogarasumaru Vs Behemoth.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I don't think Nue actually generates electrictricity but instead a magnetic field which you see in the anime with Kogarasumaru Vs Behemoth.

Well, isn't the magnetic field electricity??? Well I tried to watch the anime but couldn't, it just wasn't as good as the manga. I was disappointed when they skipped around and changed the skull saders part.

[Katsuomori]

I would rather read the manga part. It give quite a detail about Nue's reason of why he's wearing such a metallic suit. I'm sure that you know that during the Gravity children experiment, there are spoilt types (like Spitfire and is usually disposed by the researchers) and the successful types (that shows great potentials like Kilik). Maybe Nue is one of the spoilt ones that couldn't take such heavy power from the regelia. Still, I'm sticking to what (can't remember who said that... I think it's Rika) that person said about the negative points about the regelia. Overuse it can cause some unusual side effects either to the user or to the regelia itself but mostlly it would be the user and the people around him/her.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I would rather read the manga part. It give quite a detail about Nue's reason of why he's wearing such a metallic suit. I'm sure that you know that during the Gravity children experiment, there are spoilt types (like Spitfire and is usually disposed by the researchers) and the successful types (that shows great potentials like Kilik). Maybe Nue is one of the spoilt ones that couldn't take such heavy power from the regelia. Still, I'm sticking to what (can't remember who said that... I think it's Rika) that person said about the negative points about the regelia. Overuse it can cause some unusual side effects either to the user or to the regelia itself but mostlly it would be the user and the people around him/her.

Isn't Nue a part of the new generation of Gravity Children. And I agree with you on the overusing the regalia will cause it's user some pain. I think I pointed that out in one of my earlier posts. But Nue is part of the new generation, I can tell you that.

[Katsuomori]

Isn't Nue a part of the new generation of Gravity Children. And I agree with you on the overusing the regalia will cause it's user some pain. I think I pointed that out in one of my earlier posts. But Nue is part of the new generation, I can tell you that.

Yes, Nue is one of the new generation of the Gravity Children. But like the previous gravity children runned by the earlier researchers, there are some that are considered bad products or good products (sorry but coulnd't find the right words for it) as the bad ones (that doesn't show any positive potentials will be disposed of allowing only the good ones stay. Well, there's a reason why those that are disposed of had been disposed right? Yeah, I'm sticking to the over using regelia as my answer.

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

Yes, Nue is one of the new generation of the Gravity Children. But like the previous gravity children runned by the earlier researchers, there are some that are considered bad products or good products (sorry but coulnd't find the right words for it) as the bad ones (that doesn't show any positive potentials will be disposed of allowing only the good ones stay. Well, there's a reason why those that are disposed of had been disposed right? Yeah, I'm sticking to the over using regelia as my answer.

Oh ok, so that's what you were talking about. Just a little misunderstanding. Well I can see what your saying but in the first generation of gravity children weren't they all considered bad products and Kilik was the only one with potential.

About the second Generation of Gravity Children, I guess we'll never know about them being good or bad products. I think I remember Nue stating that he and his team (Black Crow) which is full of Gravity Children don't know where they came from. So that's all we know so far about the second generation of them.

[Katsuomori]

Oh ok, so that's what you were talking about. Just a little misunderstanding. Well I can see what your saying but in the first generation of gravity children weren't they all considered bad products and Kilik was the only one with potential.

About the second Generation of Gravity Children, I guess we'll never know about them being good or bad products. I think I remember Nue stating that he and his team (Black Crow) which is full of Gravity Children don't know where they came from. So that's all we know so far about the second generation of them.

Not all are the bad products in Kilik's generation. As you read his story... Spitfire and Nike are among the considered the bad product as Kilik has the most potential among the rest of the gravity children so far. So that means that there are some that are considered good products(or specimen if you want to call it) as they have a positive potentials that the researchers at that time would want to see but not as good as Kilik. Those that were below the minimum point of what they wanted are just simply disposed of. Kilik fought the researchers (in a debate term) and it delayed the disposal of the bad products at that time (which includes Spitfire and Nike) before the rebellion began.