Most Powerful Stormrider

[zxcvbn]

At present, who do you think is the most powerful/dangerous stormrider in Air Gear? Votes and opinions, please.

[Hyuver]

For now I will choose Agito, we haven't really seen Sora and Kilik power, although Agito say he wouldn't stand a chance again Sora but I think he is more scarier, he could make Fang without Regalia and can imitate the flameroad..

And he got bad temper too :p

[AngelMayLaugh]

Sora, he killed a King and a very powerful stormrider.

[Ray]

After seeing Ikki's two page spread of his storm road, I was blown away. Awesome. I'd say Ikki.

[AngelMayLaugh]

After seeing Ikki's two page spread of his storm road, I was blown away. Awesome. I'd say Ikki.

Sora, Kilik, or Nike could probably finish him in a minute.

[Soladrin]

more like 2 seconds, I voted Nike, since in the battle against spitfire and Aeon clock, it looks like he gets beat up bad, but then just turns out to hardly have a scratch and kills Gorgon (would've been aeon but heck :P) I'm still not sure if Sora is stronger then nike, since he combined the Wing and Gem road, to form the Jade road (right?)

[aznkangaroo3]

First vote for Kilik ^^. Ikki is overrated :(

[Nikku]

It's got to be Sora for me - he seems to have control over Nike and he was able to defeat Spitfire.....that takes power.

[par167]

Ikki hands down.His true potential is yet to be seen,wait till he gets a new regalia. He will rule the tower before it's over.

[penguinism]

ikki is good...but just as sora said IF ikki had gotten his hands on the wind regalia, then he wouldnt have been able to defeat him, but as is ikki is defeatable and being defeatable takes away the title of "most powerful", so my vote goes to nike...sora doesnt control nike at all, nike only has brotherly respect for sora so it seems like sora is in control, and for all we know nike is a bit more shy than sora so he lets sora do all the talkign :p but it was nike who formed genesis, nike who beat kilik(for whatever reason), and nike who made a completely new road by combining the earth and wind roads

then theres also kilik or whomever saying that even as it is nike>the whole sleeping forest just by himself, let alone with the rest of genesis

[Raenef]

Amongst gravity children, Kilik has the most natural talent. if given circumstances provide all gravity children with same leveled ATs, Kilik would own them all.
Nike having 2 regalias at the moment seems as the most powerful AT rider. However, since he's advantage only applies to those who can't fly [the big majority of Kings and AT riders], Sora's Wing Road can out do him eventually.

Ikki at the moment is developing. He'll get killed by ANY kings in a matter of a few seconds.

I voted Yo****sune cause Akira says in the manga...recent chapters, that Yo****sune's got the super-computer brains and greatest battle experience/skill amongst riders...:cool: AND, he got pretty cool personality too.........he's so cool...+ o+;

[krompt]

I voted Sora;
1. Yes Killik defeated him, but it was obviosly not an easy task for him, and Kilik no longer has a regelia.
2. Nike for some reason has pledged sevitude to Sora, even though in my opinion Nike is stronger.
3. I'm pretty sure Sora is well of because those "legs" are in tune with Bagaram or will be.

So with those threee reasons, i find Sora as the greatest or most dangerous Stormrider currently. But if Nike would get out his shadow he would be the best in my opinion.

[Raenef]

I voted Sora;
1. Yes Killik defeated him, but it was obviosly not an easy task for him, and Kilik no longer has a regelia.
2. Nike for some reason has pledged sevitude to Sora, even though in my opinion Nike is stronger.
3. I'm pretty sure Sora is well of because those "legs" are in tune with Bagaram or will be.

So with those threee reasons, i find Sora as the greatest or most dangerous Stormrider currently. But if Nike would get out his shadow he would be the best in my opinion.

it WAS obvious easy task for Kilik to defeat Sora...read my post about this in the thread: Kilik???...
the most recent one should explain..

[AngelMayLaugh]

it WAS obvious easy task for Kilik to defeat Sora...read my post about this in the thread: Kilik???...
the most recent one should explain..

No, that's impossible. It couldn't have been an easy task to defeat the person closest to becoming Sky King.

And everyone that votes for Ikki, that is pure BS. Yes, he might be the best rider at the end, but as of now he is a ****ING noob compared to Sora and Kilik.

[penguinism]

Nike having 2 regalias at the moment seems as the most powerful AT rider. However, since he's advantage only applies to those who can't fly [the big majority of Kings and AT riders], Sora's Wing Road can out do him eventually.

dont think u understand how nike's regalia works, sure the regalia in KILIK's hands only effected those who couldnt fly, nike only uses 1 regalia, not 2...he combined 2 ROADS to make 1 road he uses...but his regalia effects everyone, for those who cant fly he doesnt have to take it to the 2nd level, but against those that can fly he can basicly shoot out rocks at people like bullets by combining his natural ability with wind(being the twin of sora he has the same ability with wind sora does) and the regalia

[Wolf]

I think Ikki's potential and personality makes him dangerous. Sure he doesn't have the power yet but he's only just starting down his path. He has this unwavering determination to set his own precedence and those are the kind of people you just don't stop.

[Raenef]

dont think u understand how nike's regalia works, sure the regalia in KILIK's hands only effected those who couldnt fly, nike only uses 1 regalia, not 2...he combined 2 ROADS to make 1 road he uses...but his regalia effects everyone, for those who cant fly he doesnt have to take it to the 2nd level, but against those that can fly he can basicly shoot out rocks at people like bullets by combining his natural ability with wind(being the twin of sora he has the same ability with wind sora does) and the regalia

actually....well yeah, i understand what ur getting at.
however, Nike doesn't have the same ability as Sora....well either case, we both are assuming.
about Nike's regalia and it's functions, it's been said in the manga, that ALL Gravity Children are given a regalia to begin with. Hence why they do not require a tuner to manufacture them one. This is where i concluded that Nike has 2 regalias. He's own - as he is one of the Gravity Child + Kilik's - the one he stole.

Only reason Sora was the apparent candidate for Sky King was: because he's road was deemed the purest above all the others
because it was his idea to claim the Sky regalia to begin with
because he was the leader and founder of Sleeping Forest the team of kings
because, behind Kilik's back, the condition to join SF - provided by Sora - was to help him claim the Sky regalia for himself.

Sure Sora is strong. Yet, there are SO MANY occasions in manga where they illustrate Sora's defeat WITH Kilik in mint condition - no apparent harm done.

[Ray]

Sora, Kilik, or Nike could probably finish him in a minute.

You would finish in a minute.

[Fredegart]

Dunno...
Kilik has the most talent amongst the GC.
Nike has the gem reg and another one (like ppl say, but i'm not that sure) and is truly fu**in strong.
Ikki sure it will be the strong amongst them all, but he isn't yet, so...
Now Sora... Maybe losing for Kilik in the past made him stronger... During the fight against Spitfire ans Aeon Nike and Sora was like playing with them and "Sora wasn't wearing any AT's" so far... Just in the end he wear it and just smached akira and that outrageous number of AT's cops that came with him (Akira)...

I guess that by now Sora's the strongest.
But not for much time.
=D

[tekkadark]

i think its sora, because although Kilik did defeat him in the past, remeber he had help, it wasn't jsut kilik one on one against sora. sleeping forest had its own civil war, and in the end Kilik did defeat sora, but im guessing that there was more too it during the battle then simply overpowering strength that kilik possess. then you ahve to take into consideration Nike, who i think actually is the most dangerous, simply because i also think he's the most nuts and would use his power to destory anyone and anything that stands in his/sora's plans. but he follows Sora, and i think that alot says alot (alot of other people have said the same thing.) but i really think its close between Sora, and Kilik, with Nike close behind. but its the fact that yes Sora was defeated but i think that that made him that much stronger, like Fredegart said.....and theres also the fact taht Sora's a lil nuts too :P.

i can understand why people would consider ikki the strongest right now, because of his potential, and while i agree he definatly has the most potential of anyone in AG, right now he can't use it all cuz he lacks the experience.

[Satralis]

Well since it was regarding the current strongest i would say Nike since it was stated before. Sora still can get stronger since he just got back the Bagram while Nike had his regalias for years...

[Fredegart]

Well... Dunno...
Sora even supposedly years without a reg or even wearing AT's just got one and made that slaughter with all those guys?
He is just too damn strong...

[Satralis]

Sora even supposedly years without a reg or even wearing AT's just got one and made that slaughter with all those guys?
Oh thats not so hard. We are talking about OGs world here which means:
-Nomral people are like worms in terms of strenght when you use ATs.
-Bullet-proof clothing wont protect you from damage, but a lame training ladder-weight on the stomach will. (Ikki vs Cyclops guy)
-Shooting at king level riders is rather pointless since who cant go faster than a mere bullet...
-Sora is the main villain...

Nike supposed to be the strongest of the riders atm, but he deeply respects his brother and wont do anything to surpass him imo.

[Raenef]

Nike's skills probably surpass Sora's at the moment due to Sora's absence to AT world for many years...

[Fredegart]

Oh thats not so hard. We are talking about OGs world here which means:
-Nomral people are like worms in terms of strenght when you use ATs.
-Bullet-proof clothing wont protect you from damage, but a lame training ladder-weight on the stomach will. (Ikki vs Cyclops guy)
-Shooting at king level riders is rather pointless since who cant go faster than a mere bullet...
-Sora is the main villain...

Nike supposed to be the strongest of the riders atm, but he deeply respects his brother and wont do anything to surpass him imo.

Ok for you to say that normal ppl are a bunch of weaklings... but akira isn't.
=D
Isn't anyone that can defeat him easily as we know... And the fact that he didn't got hurt and didn't get not even a scratch during the spitfire and aeon fight show that he is strong... IMO!

[zxcvbn]

Ok for you to say that normal ppl are a bunch of weaklings... but akira isn't.
=D
Isn't anyone that can defeat him easily as we know... And the fact that he didn't got hurt and didn't get not even a scratch during the spitfire and aeon fight show that he is strong... IMO!
As Agito said in that same chapter, Akira wasn't wearing his ATs.

[tekkadark]

As Agito said in that same chapter, Akira wasn't wearing his ATs.

while it is true that Akira wasn't wearing at, or even better the bloody armor regalia, i don't think it would ahve helped him that much against sora and nike, and im starting to agree with teh people who think nike is the most power, and follows sora because of his devotion to his brother and his brothers dream. but i really do think sora is just rusty. im also wondering about taht pyon girl who appear with sora and nike. was it me, or did it sorta seem like she could leap tall building with ma single bound?

[zxcvbn]

while it is true that Akira wasn't wearing at, or even better the bloody armor regalia, i don't think it would ahve helped him that much against sora and nike, and im starting to agree with teh people who think nike is the most power, and follows sora because of his devotion to his brother and his brothers dream. but i really do think sora is just rusty. im also wondering about taht pyon girl who appear with sora and nike. was it me, or did it sorta seem like she could leap tall building with ma single bound?

I agree about Nike. In my opinion, he's presently the most powerful stormrider(Kilik no longer has his regalia). But Sora is the older twin(I think) and more cunning, so Nike follows him.

And that Pyon girl was probably using the Wing Road. That's why it looked like she was leaping over a building.

[tekkadark]

I agree about Nike. In my opinion, he's presently the most powerful stormrider(Kilik no longer has his regalia). But Sora is the older twin(I think) and more cunning, so Nike follows him.

And that Pyon girl was probably using the Wing Road. That's why it looked like she was leaping over a building.

while kilik no longer posses the Jade/Gaia road regalia, isn't htere a possiblity he had a new one made? since he was obviously in contact with Tool Toul Too? but even if that were the case, i still think nike would win, simply because he has not only succeded Kilik as the Gem king, but he combined the Gaia road with bits of the Wing road, to create a brand new road!

Hmm didn't actually think of that XP. that would explain things, but not who she is. almost definatly shes a Gravity Child, but that doesn't even help much.

there was somehting that crossed my mind when i finally saw what Nike looked like. if you remeber back to where sora was teaching Ikki how to use the infinate atmosphere. as he told it, he was actually taught how to do it. now is it jsut me, or did that shadowy figure sorta look like Nike, with teh hair. and if thats the case, that would mean that Nike would ahve known how to use the Wing road that much better then his brother. so then why would he bow down to him? or i could be completely wrong and over analyzing everything again XP

[Katsuomori]

It's rather hard to tell between the potentially powerful Ikki, Kilik who defeated more than one kings in one battle, former wing king Sora or Nike. I would choose between Kilik and Ikki... but I'm not sure who is the most powerful. Perhaps Ikki could someday surpass Kilik. I don't know... a tough choice here.

[tekkadark]

@Katsuomori- ur very right in that this is a very very hard thing to decided, because ikki hasn't full tapped into his potential yet, and we really haven't seen to much of the abilities of the likes of Nike, Sora, or Kilik, only their reputations and the snippets of info from the flashbacks, but im wondering if you think that kilik could beat Nike in a straight fight? its a really hard question because Kilik doesn't have his regalia any more, but im curous to what u think would happen if Nike's Jade Road collided with, Kilik's Gaia Road?

[Katsuomori]

@Katsuomori- ur very right in that this is a very very hard thing to decided, because ikki hasn't full tapped into his potential yet, and we really haven't seen to much of the abilities of the likes of Nike, Sora, or Kilik, only their reputations and the snippets of info from the flashbacks, but im wondering if you think that kilik could beat Nike in a straight fight? its a really hard question because Kilik doesn't have his regalia any more, but im curous to what u think would happen if Nike's Jade Road collided with, Kilik's Gaia Road?


Yes, Kilik has a very high chance of defeating Nike though he may not have that regelia. He's among the most highly potentially made gravity children among his generations (Nike was unfortunately like Spitfire, a bad product which was proposed by the researchers at that time to be disposed of). It's been years since Kilik gave his Jade regelia to Nike (which Nike turns it to Gaia Regelia) so probably he managed to make another Jade Regelia... perhaps far more powerful than the previous with the help of the Pledge Queen at that time, Ike. After all, I seriously don't think he needs that regelia at all to defeat Nike and if he really had rebulid another one... his power would have been increased a long time ago.

But if you were asking if Kilik were to collide with Nike as they have the same regelia (just an assumsion) and both are not exhausted during the previous fight... then Kilik would have easily (or maybe a little bit harder) defeated Nike. Hey, Kilik defeated all the former members of SP with the help of his own team... and even single handedly defeated Sora... so it's possible that Kilik still wins.

[Satralis]

I would say that considering Killiks way of doing things this far if he had the potential or the lowest chance to prevent the Soras from entering the grand scale he would have done so the moment they arrive. And the cause for him to play the cruel but secretly supportive role for Ikki is that he thinks that Ikki could be the one to become strong enough to stop Sora not himself. (he mentions that he knows that Sora stole the completed bagram earlier to prevent Ikki from attaining it cause he might have bacome strong enough to make things difficult). Imo the reason for him to leave the bagram at the AT shop was also because he knew his not strong enough to stop them from taking it from him. And thats the reason i think that Killik is out of the pic of the strongest riders.

Btw i also am surprised that Ikki has such a high score since atm hes not better than any other king. The strongest attacks he used was Bagrams windwalls, but at that time he completely depended on the regalias power. So him being the current strongest is a joke imo.

I still think that Nike is currently stronger than the rusty Sora, but i do wonder about wether Ringo could stand againts him with the sonia road. Cause the best counter to Nikes regalia is not touching the ground so the stunning has no effect (eventhough we only saw a bit of his power) which is of course the wind and strorm roads speaciality, but the sonia road is also a very free and boundless regalia...which it needs to be to become useful even in zero-G.

[keshies]

It's rather hard to tell between the potentially powerful Ikki, Kilik who defeated more than one kings in one battle, former wing king Sora or Nike. I would choose between Kilik and Ikki... but I'm not sure who is the most powerful. Perhaps Ikki could someday surpass Kilik. I don't know... a tough choice here.

yeh, but i think at the moment kilik is the most powerful, most probably one day ikki would surpass him, as for the sora brothers combined they are a Force, but i don't think they can do dat much havoc individually. afterall they were failed exp......

[Satralis]

Yea but saying they are failed products makes it sound like predestenation... which would mean that the secound generation grav kids along with Nue are the strongest atm...

[rasenshuriken]

currently i would say sora should be the most powerful and dangerous
but later on in the story ikki would definetly become most powerful

[Katsuomori]

I would say that considering Killiks way of doing things this far if he had the potential or the lowest chance to prevent the Soras from entering the grand scale he would have done so the moment they arrive. And the cause for him to play the cruel but secretly supportive role for Ikki is that he thinks that Ikki could be the one to become strong enough to stop Sora not himself. (he mentions that he knows that Sora stole the completed bagram earlier to prevent Ikki from attaining it cause he might have bacome strong enough to make things difficult). Imo the reason for him to leave the bagram at the AT shop was also because he knew his not strong enough to stop them from taking it from him. And thats the reason i think that Killik is out of the pic of the strongest riders.

Btw i also am surprised that Ikki has such a high score since atm hes not better than any other king. The strongest attacks he used was Bagrams windwalls, but at that time he completely depended on the regalias power. So him being the current strongest is a joke imo.

I still think that Nike is currently stronger than the rusty Sora, but i do wonder about wether Ringo could stand againts him with the sonia road. Cause the best counter to Nikes regalia is not touching the ground so the stunning has no effect (eventhough we only saw a bit of his power) which is of course the wind and strorm roads speaciality, but the sonia road is also a very free and boundless regalia...which it needs to be to become useful even in zero-G.

Well that's why I said that I'm having a hard time choosing between Ikki and Kilik. After all, Ikki said that he don't want a regelia (due to the fear of that incident happened on Hako) and I'm sure that he is training himself very hard not be dependent on the regelia but his skills. Time will tell if he really could surpass Kilik without that regelia and perhaps with it he might be almost at a status of a god not king. Scary to think about it twise.. since we have no idea about the true potential of Ikki with or without his new regelia.

[zxcvbn]

At present I don't see Kilik beating Nike or Sora. He may be the most skilled Gravity Child, but he no longer has his Regalia(and no, he didn't create a new one; one regalia has only one king controlling it). And his Gaia Road is definitely inferior to Nike's new Jade Road. The Jade Road has all of Gaia Road's features, plus features from the Wing Road. Nike can manipulate wind and use it to throw debris at his opponents, so he doen't need to be stuck to the ground like Kilik.

[Katsuomori]

At present I don't see Kilik beating Nike or Sora. He may be the most skilled Gravity Child, but he no longer has his Regalia(and no, he didn't create a new one; one regalia has only one king controlling it). And his Gaia Road is definitely inferior to Nike's new Jade Road. The Jade Road has all of Gaia Road's features, plus features from the Wing Road. Nike can manipulate wind and use it to throw debris at his opponents, so he doen't need to be stuck to the ground like Kilik.

I shouldn't say that too soon if I were you. He haven't shown his regelia and yes... each road is one regelia. But since Nike is using his Gaia regelia which is probably had been modified from Kilik's Jade regelia. Kilik would most probably have a new one now. Nike's ability isn't much about manipulating winds but also it has some Gordon Girl's skill of percifying the enemy by using the ground. We just have to see if he really have a new regelia or not as for now... we shouldn't say anything about the regelias. I'm sure that Oh!Great have some surprise for us of which I may not be surprised about. Then again, maybe Kilik might not need a regelia to win the battle... who knows?

[zxcvbn]

But since Nike is using his Gaia regelia which is probably had been modified from Kilik's Jade regelia.
Eh? You seem to be mistaken there. It is Kilik who uses Gaia Road and Nike who uses Jade Road, a modification of Gaia Road.

Nike's ability isn't much about manipulating winds but also it has some Gordon Girl's skill of percifying the enemy by using the ground.
That's exactly what the principle of the Gaia/Jade Road is: passsing vibrations through the ground to attack/disorient your enemies. The main difference is that Nike's Gaia Road can augment these tricks with his wind manipulation for additional attacks(like shooting debris from the ground at his enemies)

[Katsuomori]

^lol... I've been arguing to other people about the Jade Road and the Gaia Road that I'm totally had been messed up by who their kings were. I don't know... maybe Kilik has something more within his sleeves. I personally don't think that Nike actually did realize the full potential of his road through that regelia... maybe Kilik has or his own road.

[pipoy22]

Well i dont think people understood what the poll is..
its supposed to be Currently Strongest..
and i saw people posting in the future stuff like that...

well i voted for sora coz in my opinion currently he's the strongest..
Of course Ikki is gonna be the strongest in the Long run. so its kinda stupid why people voted for him now..

[Vicious]

Kilik because in the past he essentially defeated 5 kings

[Life]

Most likely Sora for now cause Kilik is without his Regalia and I doubt he could face Sora without his Regalia or some over powetred ATs. i think Ikki will be the most powerfullest in the end but now he's not that strong he needs to first master the rules of all AT games or at least get a good knowlegde of them and he needs to get alittle more training under his belt.

[tekkadark]

Kilik because in the past he essentially defeated 5 kings

but remeber he didn't do this alone. hell if that feet could have been acomplished by any king, they would most likely ahve the power to be the sky king, because remeber any king can be the sky king, its just that the wind king has the most likely chance of it happening.

even one seems to be agreeing that

@ Life- well still don't know if Kilik has a regalia or not, its way to early to tell that since we have only seen him in that one part in Tower, and we don't know if he's improved at all during the time between the flash back and the present. but i think ur right that Ikki will be the strongest, but its not really about the rules, its simply that he needs to gain experience because he and his time have strength, motivation, and even kings, but what they lack is the knowledge and skills gained over time. if u wanna look at this way, ikki and his crew for the most part are still all green riders. 3 out of the main 6 only started one year ago. even if two of those three are now Kings, and one rides upon his own road (the smell road!! ^_^) its still the fact that these people don't have near the expereince to take on the likes of Nike, Sora, or Kilik....yet :P

[Katsuomori]

but remeber he didn't do this alone. hell if that feet could have been acomplished by any king, they would most likely ahve the power to be the sky king, because remeber any king can be the sky king, its just that the wind king has the most likely chance of it happening.

even one seems to be agreeing that

@ Life- well still don't know if Kilik has a regalia or not, its way to early to tell that since we have only seen him in that one part in Tower, and we don't know if he's improved at all during the time between the flash back and the present. but i think ur right that Ikki will be the strongest, but its not really about the rules, its simply that he needs to gain experience because he and his time have strength, motivation, and even kings, but what they lack is the knowledge and skills gained over time. if u wanna look at this way, ikki and his crew for the most part are still all green riders. 3 out of the main 6 only started one year ago. even if two of those three are now Kings, and one rides upon his own road (the smell road!! ^_^) its still the fact that these people don't have near the expereince to take on the likes of Nike, Sora, or Kilik....yet :P

Yeah, it's just a matter of time for Ikki to gain his own experience to become a king. After all, he just went through an odeal right? I don't know about Kilik... maybe he has a new regelia. After all, he have plenty of time to make one... I don't think that he's going to reveal it. And he ain't rusty since everyday, there's a potential for a storm rider to steal the Sky Regelia away. Being one of the guardians of the Sky regelia, he had to stay vigiliant at all times to prevent anyone or anything to steal the regelia. There's a possibility that after the betrayal of his first team of SF... he ain't going to trust the current SF team or anyone close to him... so he's not going to let his guard down for that.

[Splash]

Since this is for the current most power/dangerous storm rider, I would have to say Sora, Ikki still has a way to go before he can come Sky King, if Ikki were the most powerful right now what's the point in introducing Sora and Nike now? Anyway, my opinion for now is with Sora as he seems to be the one pulling the strings, and it seems to me like Nike did most of the work while killing Spitfire and Sano, which could mean either Sora can't do anything, or it wasn't worth his time and effort since he was so powerful.

[tekkadark]

Since this is for the current most power/dangerous storm rider, I would have to say Sora, Ikki still has a way to go before he can come Sky King, if Ikki were the most powerful right now what's the point in introducing Sora and Nike now? Anyway, my opinion for now is with Sora as he seems to be the one pulling the strings, and it seems to me like Nike did most of the work while killing Spitfire and Sano, which could mean either Sora can't do anything, or it wasn't worth his time and effort since he was so powerful.

while i understand what ur saying here, Splash, and i definatly agree with most of waht your saying, i think that Sora is somewhere in between what you were saying of either he can't do anything or he's to powerful to really care. as powerful as Sora is, i really don't think he could have taken down BOTH Sano and Spitfire as easily has he did with the help of his brother. i'de definatly lean more towards hes veyr very strong, but not strong enough to take on two king level riders without a scratch on him ton show for it. i think as time goes one we'll really be able to see whats gunna happen in terms of power epecailly between Sora and Nike.

[Psicosis]

i think Kilik, Sora or Nike! *-*

[spaz4tw]

as of right now it would have to be sora since he has the regaila and everything and ikki still is not yet up on par like kanon said to agito hes only 1.5/4 or w.e

[zxcvbn]

Yeah, Ikki still has a lot of untapped potential. Even in his current(1.5/4) state, Sora feared that he would surpass him if he got the Bagram. But Nike/Sora are still the top riders.

[DeadEnd]

I agree with the general consensus:

- As of now,
I believe Sora is the strongest as the Wing Road is his forte and that gives him the sky over Nike. Regardless of being "rusty" I doubt he could have done any of the training Ikki if he was truly that "rusty".
I think Nike comes in a close second. The Jade is powerful. Plus that addition of the Wing Road makes him so versatile, but I still think Sora would ride right over him. Sora most likely -taught- Nike. So, dontcha think Sora wouldn't teach him -everything-... Sora still wants to be the Sky King. I seriously doubt he would jeporadize his goals say by having Nike turn on him last second.

Granted they are devoted to each other, we've only seen brief moments of Nike so far. We haven't seen him as he acts alone.

As for the runners up...
I do believe Ikki is up there. I mean, he did totally beat out Sora at one point in panty counting. Shows how much he'll progress in the future.

I also believe Yoshi has a great potential. We've seen him neutralize the Fang.. And we haven't really seen him do anything besides that yet. I'm fairly excited to see the true capabilities with the Ram Jet once the tower opens... I think he may even surpass Spitfire just because of the mechanics of his Regalia... Its like a giant vacuum cleaner. Sucks out the bad (flames, fangs) and shoots it back out as good (Ram JET! :D)

[penguinism]

I also believe Yoshi has a great potential. We've seen him neutralize the Fang.. And we haven't really seen him do anything besides that yet. I'm fairly excited to see the true capabilities with the Ram Jet once the tower opens... I think he may even surpass Spitfire just because of the mechanics of his Regalia... Its like a giant vacuum cleaner. Sucks out the bad (flames, fangs) and shoots it back out as good (Ram JET! :D)

just from sucking in agito's crappy injured fang he was able to destroy basicly a whole wall of glass with his regalia lol, and since all regalia(at least all regalia on ikki's team) use wind...theyre basicly all screwed when it comes to yoshi...THEN u have to consider since yoshi is so strong, he doesnt NEED them to use their regalia to absorb their wind, if he kicks fast enough he can still use his regalia to attack with(although it wont be as strong)

[zxcvbn]

I think by now Nike's loyalty to Sora is unquestionable. If he really wanted to upstage and surpass Sora, he already had the chance when Sora was crippled for years. But he:
1)Helped Sora to come back to form and pulled all the strings for him: Founding Genesis as a replacement for the old Sleeping Forest, arranging contacts in America for GravKid research etc.
2)Stole the Bagram cores to give them to Sora, so that he could be Wind King again.
So maybe Nike's just not a 'leader' type and loves his brother?

[DeadEnd]

I think by now Nike's loyalty to Sora is unquestionable. If he really wanted to upstage and surpass Sora, he already had the chance when Sora was crippled for years. But he:
1)Helped Sora to come back to form and pulled all the strings for him: Founding Genesis as a replacement for the old Sleeping Forest, arranging contacts in America for GravKid research etc.
2)Stole the Bagram cores to give them to Sora, so that he could be Wind King again.
So maybe Nike's just not a 'leader' type and loves his brother?

Well, the only response I can really summon is.. are we truly sure? We don't exactly know what the brief case really means to Nike. We know Sora is basically obsessed with obtaining that thing. But, will Nike upstage Sora after he's gotten it (before using it or whatever happens at that point) the whole double-cross-when-you-know-its-in-the-bag? Judging that this is going to be some HUGE EPIC battle, we don't know if Nike will steal it after letting Sora do all the work (again?)... This same aspect leaves Nike out of the picture.. If he looks like the subordinate, the focus remains on the Kilik/Sora struggle and the Sora/Ikki battle.

I guess I just want to see more of Nike. ^^

[escarta69]

I think Sora has the potential to be the most dangerous due to his ruthlessness.My second vote would be for Nike.The fight against Aeon and Spitfire speaks for itself.I put sora first because Nike bows to him when he hands him the wind regalia.That has to say something about his power.

[Blite]

I think either Sora, Nike, or Kilik; out of the three I would say most likely Sora is the most powerful. The only reason i pick Sora is cause of the Wind Regalia.

The main reason I don't think its Ikki right now is because he really isn't that powerful YET... the manga keeps talking about how powerful he will become not how powerful he is...

[Seijuro]

nobody put kazu up there. But i would have to go with ikki. once he gets his regalia for his storm road he will most likely surpass Sora and Nike and kilik

[DeadEnd]

Sad day for Kazu fans... He falls direclty under the "potential" category though...

[Teachan]

Okay, to get this straight:

Kilik is the most powerful stormrider here.

I'm saying this without being a fan of his. That's how things are objectively.

Remember, right after SpitFire's death, Sora himself went close to him and revealed that the Gravity Children that escaped from the Tower were all to be killed because they were of the low class ones... save for Kilik. There were two classes of Gravity Children: The high class and the low class. Sora remembered that he, along with everybody else were on the 'to-kill list', except Kilik; he was the most powerful, skilled rider there. Sora, SpitFire, Simca, Om and the rest were to be killed because of their low status.

If you don't remember, go and read the chapters after SpitFire and Iron Clock's death again.

Objectively, Kilik is the strongest. The other choises are personal preferences...

[DeadEnd]

True. I think I blantantly forgot that Sora has already been defeated by Kilik once. XD. But, question is.. he doesn't have the Regs anymore. How useful can he be now? Regardless of skill, those Regs really tip the scale in Sora's favor.

[tekkadark]

Who is to say he doesn't ahve a regalia anymore? he might have created a new one, since we really don't know what went into the creation of the original Gaia road's regalia he miight ahve been able to make a new, better one, since although Gravity Children don't need to be tuned, they still need turners to help creat the regalia (right??). there still is the fact that like sora, Kilik might be rusty, we don't know how often, if ever he has ridden since he betrayed the original SF, so right now he might have be get some pratice in and he might be able to match and or beat Nike, who is his succssor. we relaly can't gauge Kiliks skill like we cna with Sora, Nike, and everyone else on that list, since we ahven't actually seen what he can do exepct for in flash backs. it could be taht he's actually gotten better...scary throuhgt XP

[DeadEnd]

Same as if he has gotten worse though.. We'll have to wait a few more Tricks before we'll learn enough. But that's what discussing and speculation is all about. :P

[tekkadark]

good point, but i really can't see Kilik letting himself getting any weaker, when he knew he had opponents like Nike out there, and with his old regalia to boot.

[DeadEnd]

Hell he doesn't even have to fight. Look what he has going for himself all ready:

- Ringo (kick *** Thorn Queen)
- Gabs (Horn King)
- Om ("Water Beotch")
- Mikan /Ume (Tag teamers. XD.)
- The 2 'unnamed' riders who have yet to be seen/ unmasked.
- Ikki (since he's now geared up to fight off Sora [but SF included].)
- Koga (Following Ikki's lead...that's 2 Kings: Fang/Flame [at least soon will have the new Flame once Kazu gets better].)

[tekkadark]

While u make a good point, Dead, that he Kilik has powerful allies up the ying-yang, i disagree in calling Ikki and co. allies cuz SF is in the same catagory as the Sora Brothers in Koga's eyes: their true enemies. while Koga does have the same enemy as SF, in this situation it really wouldn't be right to say the enemy of my enemy is my friend XP.

i think that Kilik wouldn't be adverse to using his own skills to battle, but its jsut that its not nessicary at the moment. he's probably one of if not THE most powerful on SF, since he was the strongest umongst the originial SF (that includes Nike, remember) and now he's had time to improve. its true he has this team to back him up, and one helluva team at that, but in order to lead a team like that you need more than just brains and strategy...you need immense power and skill to back it up. how else would he keep people like "Gabs" and the "Water Beotch" (nice nicknames by the way XP) undercontrol and following his orders so obidently where they would rather die then return after failing. its either they respect him that much, or are just that scared of him and im gunna lean more toward the former here.

[Blite]

Ever heard of "an enemy of an enemy is an ally"? While its true Ikki wants to fight against SF I think he's more worried about beating the Sora Brothers... at least for now... Also the fact that Kilik is at Kogarasumaru's match might mean that he still wants to recruit Ikki... maybe... haha

[tekkadark]

I think Kilik is jsut there to see if his original evaluation of Koga, and Ikki more procisely, was right and he's finding out he might have been wrong and thats amusing him XP

[remanzuo]

True. I think I blantantly forgot that Sora has already been defeated by Kilik once. XD. But, question is.. he doesn't have the Regs anymore. How useful can he be now? Regardless of skill, those Regs really tip the scale in Sora's favor.

hm...dunno
he's not the gem king anymore but maybe he still have the ability
akito can use fang without regalia
kazu n agito can make fire trail without regalia

[wsnnwa]

The most powerful stormrider will be some random guy who pops out of know where after tournament or during it.

[Arashi]

Ume the future Rumble Queen is the strongest

[Jarnt]

Ume the future Rumble Queen is the strongest
Since when was ume said to be the next Rumble queen? xD.

i would say Ikki cause i dont know what his road actually does....yet

[Fran]

Since when was ume said to be the next Rumble queen? xD.

i would say Ikki cause i dont know what his road actually does....yet

Its Storm King of Hurricane Road...

[Jarnt]

Its Storm King of Hurricane Road...

i know that but what i dont know is what the Hurricane road can actually do cause i have'nt seen it in action yet

[Arashi]

It allows the user to eat pie while doing a 360 spin in all angles high above in the air.

[Fran]

It allows the user to eat pie while doing a 360 spin in all angles high above in the air.

ahahaha... yeah... :lol:

@Jarnt: we dont know what the hurricane road can do, because Kururu still dont make the regalia... in fact Sora has a "test version" of Bagram... im looking forward to Kururu making such regalia...

[pngo]

Isn't is obvious? The hurricane road creates hurricanes!

[Flonne]

Most powerful is Kilik because he beat sora before he can beat him again anyday

[abrial]

Most powerful: Sora, just because he seems to have control over Nike, Pyon, psycho TTT girl (forgot her name already, but isn't she better than Kururu at A-T tuning from a technical standpoint?), Genesis??? (most powerful non-king A-T riders), and possibly the backing of the US armed forces.

Most dangerous: Ikki; for two reasons. 1) He doesn't see/follow the rules that everyone has (Wallride against Skull Sader leader; just sends an empty A-T up the wall because it's faster. Uses other regalia effects for his own purposes like riding Akito's fang.), and 2) He's just to dumb/stubborn to quit (Disc fight against Rika and the sisters, Behemoth fight until Akira's body betrays itself, Devil 30-30).

[Numbuh909]

Yes I agree, good post

[grahf]

Hmm I'm finally posting in this thread. Since the whole talk with Sleeping Forest I've come to this conclusion. The rider of the thorn road is the strongest Stormrider.

With that said I think Ringo is the one.

[Priceless]

from what we've seen so far... Sora is the most dangerous

[Fran]

Hmmm, Ringo?, at the bottom of the tower of course... but outside?... i dont know...

[grahf]

Whether its the top of the tower or outside. Who is going to beat her? either way if she has her eyes on someone thats not a position that you would want to be in. All road to the top leads through her not the other way around.

[BleedingOblivion]

the most dangerous stormrider is agito ^^ he will defeat sora and nike

[Fran]

Whether its the top of the tower or outside. Who is going to beat her? either way if she has her eyes on someone thats not a position that you would want to be in. All road to the top leads through her not the other way around.

But she lacks stamina to her road outside the tower, you can see that in her fight versus Ikki.

although you're right... she is the big boss of the tower and the final barrier before the sky regalia...

[penguinism]

ringo was already beaten by ikki outside the tower, and it was his first time using bagram....and wasnt even the bagram made by kururu

i think that alone says how easily sora or nike could defeat ringo outside of the tower

each regalia has its strengths and weaknesses, so really its impossible to say there is a most powerful, but from how the manga states it right now: nike is the strongest, and with sora teamed up with nike both with regalia even sleeping forest is afraid of the coming battle

[Sanno]

I really wonder how strong Nike will be in the GST, I mean his Jade road is effectively really powerfull on the surface, wich is what made Killik so powerfull with his Gaia road during the original SF battle (Since Killik was the only gravity child to fully get used to the gravity pressure on the surface >Trick 156 pg.7<). But how effective can it be in the zero grav of the GST? when a rider isnt forced to have his AT's on anything.

On the surface the waves from the regalia can neutralize any opponent (Aoen got lucky that Gorgon explain how it works so he could withstand it). But how well will that effect be used on GST? There must be some hidden aspect of Nike's regalia that hasnt been shown yet.

But currently on the surface I would say Nike is the strongest, the only ones who could possibly counter him would be Ikki and only with a regalia (Wind or Storm as long as they work similarly). By using the air densities to avoid the vibration fields let off by the regalia.

[grahf]

ringo was already beaten by ikki outside the tower, and it was his first time using bagram....and wasnt even the bagram made by kururu

So we are going to hang our hat on a grossly unbalanced match??? in which Ikki had lost the "first" round. Yes after he got the bagram Ringo didn't really do anything. But that encounter isn't going to sway me in anyway.

Sora will be a different story only due to his experience and ruthlessness. 2 things Ringo lacks.

edit: If I remember correctly no one won that match.

[penguinism]

So we are going to hang our hat on a grossly unbalanced match??? in which Ikki had lost the "first" round. Yes after he got the bagram Ringo didn't really do anything. But that encounter isn't going to sway me in anyway.
how was it unbalanced? unbalanced in ringo's favor before ikki got the regalia? sure i agree if thats what u mean

ringo didnt do anything? before ikki got the bagram she didnt use her IA, afterward she did and she still couldnt scratch him

and there is no first, second, third, fourth round for a race, theres 1 round start to finish, and ikki won it


edit: If I remember correctly no one won that match.
no, ikki won the match, ringo even said he won...but it was a match for emblems so he CARRIED her to finish line so it was a tie and neither lost their team

[grahf]

how was it unbalanced? unbalanced in ringo's favor before ikki got the regalia? sure i agree if thats what u mean

Which is why it really wasn't match as much as it was for Ringo to "declare". For if it was really something that had an intention to be won. I'm sure Ikki would have recieved the Simca (she has really dropped out the plot) treatment. Hell even if she couldn't do it in the beginning she could have made sure Kururu wouldn't repair anything............ As I said when Ikki got bagram Ringo didn't do anything. She trying but in the end it amounted to nothing.

As for the carrying past the finish line. Doesn't matter (to me at least) what Ringo said. That just show what a farce that whole encounter was.

But as we know ifs and maybes don't count. Of course excuses could be made but I'm not going to waste my time with it.

[siddha]

Guys, it's obvious that it's Kilik

1. He beat Sora by himself (WITHOUT A SCRATCH). Even though the story doesn't tell us whether or not it was a one on one between Kilik/Sora, knowing how honorable Kilik is, I'm 100% sure he fought alone.

2. The only reason Nike beat him was because Nike DID A SNEAKY AND DIRTY ATTACK on Kilik. Plus he took Kilik's regalia. Even though Nike's more powerful now because of time, by that rationale, Kilik is also more powerful because of time!

3. He managed to nearly pound Ikki to death (WITHOUT HIS AT). Imagine how powerful he would be WITH AT.

4. Ringo is out of the question, since the only reason she is the "leader' of sleeping forest is that she can fight in excess gravity without any problems. Outside of excess gravity, Kilik would own her,

5. The rest? bleh...

6. Even the Gravity Child "committee" who experimented on Kilik and the other GC, knew that Kilik was the best out of all of them.

But looking at it plot wise, it is obvious that Oh!Great is going to make Ikki the strongest...well...BECAUSE HE'S THE HERO! >_<

[Krell]

If by most powerfull meaning at the moment, I would believe it to be Sora (sky king of wing road) depending how far you read up to. I personally would say it to be Ikki, including the future. Then he is stronger then sora or i believe to be. By going on what the old gramps saying the wing road is to narrow, then the hurricane road not being so Ikki would be more powerfull then Sora. That is if you think either or of these two are the strongest.

[Sanno]

ringo didnt do anything? before ikki got the bagram she didnt use her IA

Ringo does break out her regalia and uses her IA (any use of her particular regalia requires IA I think because of how it works.) At the begining of trick 135 she says that she hates that trick and beats the crud out of Ikki, also at the begining of trick 137 she absolutely uses her IA against Ikki (she does those wind/air thorn things kinda like a weak version of what Sora did to Aeon/Spitfire) who didnt have his regalia. I think the reason she ultimately beat Ikki in the end is because he didnt full understand his own trick and when he saw what was happening he gets a little freaked out and she comes straight at him.

6. Even the Gravity Child "committee" who experimented on Kilik and the other GC, knew that Kilik was the best out of all of them.

I really think that they found him to be the strongest for the simple reason that he was the only one who could adjust to the gravity of the surface, they had to of had some other purpose to create the gravity children and I am guessing that it wasnt only for underground activities. If you were engineering children that were naturally more talented with AT based technology then you would need them to be able to fuction at 100% on the surface.

[atoli]

I think that eventually, probably near the end of the series/at the end of the series, Ikki will have become the most powerful; but as of right now, I think it's either the Takeuchi brothers or Killik, and my vote went to Kilik. x)

[takumi2004]

If by most powerfull meaning at the moment, I would believe it to be Sora (sky king of wing road) depending how far you read up to. I personally would say it to be Ikki, including the future. Then he is stronger then sora or i believe to be. By going on what the old gramps saying the wing road is to narrow, then the hurricane road not being so Ikki would be more powerfull then Sora. That is if you think either or of these two are the strongest.

i think your right since sora and kilik both agreed that they may not have been able to capture ikki if he was using the real wing regalia that kururu made.

the one thing i disagree with is that sora isnt the sky king to be sky king would mean that he already possessed the sky regalia which he has not. he is the wind king of the wing road. to be sky king would mean he beat SF which he hasnt

[minamint]

The gramps...I have no imformation to back this up. So I would say Kilik because it seems that Sora and Kilik were defeated by him at one point and Ikki has the potential to be strongest but just not there yet...

[gut3n4ch7]

I say Nike. Om herself said that he was able to grasp the wind as a child.
Also, in the battle against Spitfire and Sano, he came away from their joint attack unscathed. An attack from a King AND someone as proficient as Aion Clock. That's saying something.

[FinalHero]

Sora at the moment, but Ikki in the end cos he has potential.

[T.Y.]

I would also say Sora becasue he was the closest to becoming the Sky King, which meant when it came to A-Ting he had more potential than Kilik. I agree that when it comes to fighting Kilik has the upper hand but right at the moment there is no rider (except maybe Nike) that could take on Sora and defeat him

[psio15]

I say Nike just because Sora is getting used to his new set of wheels. Nike was barely scratched in the battle against Spit and Aeon, and owned them in the end. Sora is good and all, but currently he's still testing out his new AT's where as Nike still has the same pair, and he's fused two roads (which seems to be unheard of in the AT world).

[T.Y.]

Actually when Aeon clock and Spit used to ride together as a team they made the Appollo Road which is a fusion of time and flame, but i'm not sure if that counts because it's a team move.

[psio15]

True, but that is a team combo and it didn't seem to affect Nike at all. He did come up from it seemingly unscathed, except his scarf was owned...

[T.Y.]

That's true, i guess i mean Nike took a dual blow from the flame king and the former king and seemed unaffected, i wonder why Nike obeys Sora like a master rather than like a brother

[takumi2004]

with sora having the regalia hes stronger than nike. Nike is treating sora like hes an older brother. your suppose to listen to the older brother and its not like sora has been asking nike to do anything thats beneath him.

[T.Y.]

I see your point there but in one of the chapters when Sora gets up form his wheel chair Nike gets on his knees and bows to Sora like a servant but Nike seems to enjoy serving Sora so I guess Sora isn't a complete dictator

[midorika]

Heh heh.
Kururu is not in the list.
Oh well. She's a tuner, I know.
Maybe a thread for best tuner? xP
Not enough candidate I think.
Maybe when nakayama is really a tuner.. then..
Anyway... I don't think anybody else will be a worthy opponent of Kururu.

hmm.. Still, Ikki is winning this isn't it.
^^

[Hyuver]

But I would never agree he is the most powerful stormrider, cause in shonen manga usually the main character always win against the opponent with unbelieveable ways ex : prince of tennis, or when the opponent totally outclassed him, then with the power of friendship and love blablablabla something like that suddenly the main character get up again and manage to defeat the opponent.

Unless he win from the takeuchi in a close and decent match then I will agree he is the strongest

[Leave]

I thought Kilik was the strongest...I mean, he was the best out of all the Gravity Children, right? And he's got that whole "sense of justice" thing pushing him to try his hardest. Plus, he's got a shitload of experience when it comes to zero-G riding as well as regular. Come on, he's in charge of Sleeping Forest, for crying out loud!

[T.Y.]

Ringo is in charge of Sleeping Forest first of all and in the manga it even says that zero-G effects everyone including him, with the exception of the Thorn queen. But even if there is no gravity, as long as there is air, Sora, Nike and ikki can move freely by riding the wind

[siddha]

Because this is a shonen manga, it is obvious that Oh!Great is going to make Ikki the strongest.

Even though logically speaking, Kilik is the strongest (without a doubt), Ikki will find a way to win (somehow in the most illogical way)

I still stand by my opinion that Kilik is strongest. I don't mean to be arrogant, but no one can really prove otherwise

[Wolf]

Kilik may have whooped some serious ass in the past but we haven't seen him do anything spectacular. Who knows he might have some longstanding injuries like Sora and Spitfire had.

[Samurai]

I would say dangerous/powerful is different, most powerful, I would give the title to nike, however most dangerous, I'd say Ikki, because of his potential.

[T.Y.]

We got to consider the fact that Sora is being driven by rage like Kilik was when he found out Sora's ambitions and now that he has cybernatic legs, it could be possible to surpass human limits. We only saw a sample of Sora's ability against Aeon and Spit, and since Sora is more experienced than Ikki when it comes to Bagram, it maybe possible that this time Kilik may not be able to stop him

[siddha]

We got to consider the fact that Sora is being driven by rage like Kilik was when he found out Sora's ambitions and now that he has cybernatic legs, it could be possible to surpass human limits. We only saw a sample of Sora's ability against Aeon and Spit, and since Sora is more experienced than Ikki when it comes to Bagram, it maybe possible that this time Kilik may not be able to stop him

In a lot of stories, cybernetics/prosthetics actually make a person weaker (Dragonball, or even in Tenjho Tenge). Think about how fantasy based a lot of the AT riders powers are; such as Fang Road/Earth Road/Bubblegum Crisis/etc. In anime mediums in particular, spirit energy is usually more powerful than mecha energy.

In Evangelion, the more "psychically" in tune the rider is with the mecha, the more powerful the mecha becomes. In that series, even though some of the robots have DOZENS of powerful weapons, it isn't as powerful as opposed to when it is using it's "spirit powers".

But at the same time, since a lot of the Rider's powers are technology based, it is possible that Sora might be able to become superhuman using the modifications. You have a point there.

And remember; rage blinds people. Countless stories of ambitious people who almost win, but lose because they are blinded by rage. Kilik was _not_ enraged when he fought Sora. He was saddened and shocked. If he was enraged, he would have killed Sora. Kilik felt as if it was his duty to stop Sora (that's why he was so cold when fighting Sora). He is not enraged the way Sora or Nike is (Nike in particular).


But then again, Oh!Great is most likely gonna make Kilik weaker for more dramatic effect, so that the final battle can be between Sora and Ikki...OH THE DRAMA! TWO SKY KING CANDIDATES BATTLING! (and of course, Ikki's gonna win...duh!)

[T.Y.]

I see what your saying but even Spitfire who used to ride with Sora was surprised by the power unleashed when Sora used the Bagram and that was before he got it tuned. Because the legs itself are pretty much an A-T, his movement and agility will increase substantially if he gets it tuned

[rh1ngo06]

for me it's sora, the most powerful storm rider as of now =P

[animeking15]

I would pick ikki but he doesnt have as much experience like most of the others so currently I would say Sora as of now

[rh1ngo06]

yeah that's what i thought too... probably if ikki has more experience maybe i'll pick him lol =)

[Raenef]

ikki = still a potential ball.

nowhere in the manga have they mentioned Sora being the best, ~ o~ *looks at the result...*..odd


kilik = proclaimed the BEST of gravity children.
yoshitsune = reknown to be super smart[comparable to super computers] and UBER skilled rider even amongst kings
*looks at the result again...*...just odd...

the pole is more like favouritism rather than determining who actually is the best.

oh and on the side note..agito and ringo seems just GARBAGE compared to all other kings. that is all.

[_zet_]

i think nue is the lowest of the kings, he got trashed by that skull guy, who admittedly was pretty good, got beat by non-kings, and beat around by the weak guys.

And to [I]Sidha[I] Air gear isn't about spirit power, oh!great tries to make it realistic by giving (almost)acceptible scientific explanations to everything. Rather than just "it happened cause i shot my spirit energy" which the manga never says anything about. And the fact remains that without their "air-gear" or cybernetic/prosthetic roller skates, all these people would just be regular humans. Sora's implants most definetly DO boost his power since he was crippled before he had them. Plus, Aeon's legs hit the human limit, but with the tuning that kururu did for her dads teams, ALL of those guys gained amazing ability.

Air gear is ALL ABOUT mechanical/scientific stuff, like, everything, it even says somewhere "regular people can't stand up to stormriders" because of the air gear they use. Spirit power never has a part iin the manga :P

[Hyuver]

i think nue is the lowest of the kings, he got trashed by that skull guy, who admittedly was pretty good, got beat by non-kings, and beat around by the weak guys.


Correction
That skull guy (gabishi) is also a king :p

[sakiru]

I voted for Nike. Really. After Kilik beat the poo out of Sora & the rest of the original Sleeping Forest, Nike came in and beat HIM. Then he went on to gain power and status while Sora sat aorund being crippled for what, years? Sora calls the shots for now, but I get the feeling that that is because Nike has yet to turn on him. He will, though. It's a great plan: let Sora, who has charisma, lead you and his followers up until you don't NEED followers. Then take over at the last minute. Nike isn't exactly subservient anyway. He treats Sora as an equal and gets the same treatment back, but I think... only to lie in wait. <3

[Raenef]

Nue was 'un-tuned' at the time he faced Gabishi.
Nike's a failure -_ -*hate hate*. Well, see it this way, if after a friggin tiresome fight, some douche bag jumps on u. Chances are, u'll get raped.

[miniii]

I say Kilik, he is the only non-failed experiment out of the 1st gravity children.
At this moment, Kilik is the strongest.

[Leave]

Yeah, Kilik has yet to be removed from his seat as "best." Partially because he hasn't put himself out there, yes, but also because he is the most naturally gifted of the gravity children.

[Blackdragon]

I'm surprised that so many people are picking Ikki. The question is who is the strongest,not who is going to be the strongest. Sora or Nike could kill Ikki in a second. Ikki hasn't been in the game long enough to be to know the ropes much less do what it takes to destroy another rider. As it stands now Sora or Nike is definitely the strongest storm rider.

[falco892]

Actully if i remember cuurectly Nue admits he releases high voltages through wires in the regalia suit. Enables user to cause hallucinations by manpulating the Earth's magnetic field(which alters human brainwaves), and holds the possiblity with this power to destroy an entire town. But of course he won't have time to do this in battle if it was a head on fight I would say it would be Ikki or Sora.

[Raenef]

I'm surprised that so many people are picking Ikki. The question is who is the strongest,not who is going to be the strongest. Sora or Nike could kill Ikki in a second. Ikki hasn't been in the game long enough to be to know the ropes much less do what it takes to destroy another rider. As it stands now Sora or Nike is definitely the strongest storm rider.

amen.

[zxcvbn]

oh and on the side note..agito and ringo seems just GARBAGE compared to all other kings. that is all.
Raenef, I think you're wrong aabout Agito. He has a battle level of 90-something and, in my opinion, is currently the most powerful member of Kogarasamaru(Ikki hasn't reached anywhere near his full potential yet)
Even guys like Kilik and Sora respect his power, though they all agree he's been deteriorating.

As for Ringo, she may be mediocre compared to the others on the earth's surface but she has a HUGE advantage at the bottom of the Trophaeum(other Riders can't even breathe there, she's used to it). If Ikki ever reaches the Gram Scale finals, I think his biggest challenge will be defeating Ringo, not Sora.

i think nue is the lowest of the kings, he got trashed by that skull guy, who admittedly was pretty good, got beat by non-kings, and beat around by the weak guys.
:P
Zetsuie, the ONLY time Nue got beaten in the manga was when Gabishi beat him. And that's because his Regalia was out of tune. He pwned Gabishi the second time they met.

Wow, long post!

[Hyuver]

That's not Zetsuei :lol:

of course Agito is currently the strongest in Koga right now, if he could lost to Ikki then that must be because he lack stamina

anyway the maximum level on AT world might not be like typical RPG where the max is either 99 or 100 but maybe 999 if you read the latest chapter where Hako mention Sora level is 300 but maybe she is just bluffing

[T.Y.]

Agito/Akito may have the upper hand when it comes to experience and skill wise, but now that Ikki can freely control the wind with his hand (when he blows away former thorn queen's tuner away) and had some experience and is aknowledged as a king and a amazing fighter, if he were to face akito i would say its either a draw or Ikki's victory

[Hyuver]

Still Agito wasn't ever in his top form since the series begin till now we never seen him with the Fang Regalia till now and he just recover from his Injury so we can expect much from him to come

Ikki for me still the overpowered typical shonen main character where he seems to have infinite stamina and persistence that always lead him to impossible win

[Nikku]

Still Agito wasn't ever in his top form since the series begin till now we never seen him with the Fang Regalia till now and he just recover from his Injury so we can expect much from him to come

Ikki for me still the overpowered typical shonen main character where he seems to have infinite stamina and persistence that always lead him to impossible win

It's hard to guess how Agito will turn out. I personally think he'll lose his aggressive alter ego, and become the fang king that he was before losing the regalia. ^^

- But yes, i think he's due some character development soon. Definately been shunned for too long!

[zxcvbn]

It's hard to guess how Agito will turn out. I personally think he'll lose his aggressive alter ego, and become the fang king that he was before losing the regalia. ^^

Nope. Agito's here to stay. He's just too cool. Plus he makes for some hilarious situations.

Hopefully, he'll get motivated to stop the rot in his AT skills, though.

[T.Y.]

Akito is the kind part that is the tuner for the Fang Regalia, his other alter ego is Agito who is the current King but in the manga it said something about Akito being the real Fang King and he kind of gave that up and AGito appeared to protect him

[Hyuver]

ano....
you get the akito and agito wrong... :lol:

[T.Y.]

ano....
you get the akito and agito wrong... :lol:


WHOOPS MY BAD HAHAHA thanks for correcting me

*corrected the previous post*

although Agito may act like a total ass (plz pardon my language) i think he is way too kind cause he was willing to sacrifice himself to make Akito happy

[miniii]

From chapter 183
As Kilik said, Agito has a physical weakness, andonly his motivation keeps him going.
Using his "fangs" makes his leg streaming with pain, reducing his stamina to let him going, making him to rely more on his "fangs" and reduce his stamina even more.
That's why i think Agito isn't the STRONGEST. I actually think Ikki would be able to beat him easily now, with his wind.
Sora has bionic legs now, but we are yet to see Kilik's skill.
But I still think kilik would win unless it's sora+nike vs kilik

[T.Y.]

Like everyone mentioned before yes Kilik is the strongest of the gravity children, we have yet to see Sora and Kilik's present skills, Sora who had been waiting for the day he regains the ability to ride once more probably havent been dormant but rather secretly training his body and controlling the wind and the same can be said for Kilik who probably knew Sora would come back oneday

[Raenef]

Sora who had been waiting for the day he regains the ability to ride once more probably havent been dormant but rather secretly training his body and controlling the wind

true. his wheel chair skills > AT skills lol.

[penguinism]

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8324/117ui7.png

this page from the v18 tanks ends this topic...its nike no question about it

[mibu]

Sora, battle level over 300

[zxcvbn]

About Agito... page 2 in chapter 183(where Kilik comments on Agito's declining AT skills) has such a touching image of Yayoi. She looks worried about Agito. I wonder if O!G will translate these hints into a tuner-tunee relationship?

[Fran]

Yayoi says: "What's wrong with agito kun?"; and after that she says: "the third set feels almost like we are not even putting up a fight"...

To me is more a thought about the team. Besides... she doesn't have any training as tunner. Yes, she might be one, but she don't know anything about tunning.

[penguinism]

ch discussion should stay in ch discussion...this is a discussion of whos the most powerful stormrider now whos gonna be whos tuner

[T.Y.]

Saw the picture you posted penguinism but what Nike did was something Sora could do to

[penguinism]

ya but nike also has the abilities of the gem regalia....

sora is powerful, but nike is everything sora can do+everything kilik can do combined, making him the strongest rider

[zxcvbn]

ya but nike also has the abilities of the gem regalia....

sora is powerful, but nike is everything sora can do+everything kilik can do combined, making him the strongest rider

I don't know, penguism. I personally voted for Nike but now I'm not so sure that there's much of a gap between Sora and Nike. Sure, Nike knows all of Sora's wind-catching tricks, but he doesn't have the Wing Road attacks Sora can do with his Regalia. Plus his Jade Road keeps him bound to the ground whenever he wants to use vibration based attacks. Sora is always airborne.

[penguinism]

ya but using the gem road along with the wind abilities hes able to attack ranged...kicks up a piece of rock and shoots it like a bullet with wind

shield of air+rock bullets+prevention of movement due to vibrations...hes a beast, the only one immune to him would be sora himself

i think sora>nike...but when it comes to everything else nike>everyone....and sora+nike=overkill

then the only one greater than sora would be yoshitsune...cuz i believe the rumble is the natural enemy of the wind regalia....soooooooo

sora>nike
yoshitsune>sora
nike>yoshitsune and every1 else
sora+nike>any team of people


this is all based on pre-storm regalia though...that regalia might make ikki>sora AND nike

[rh1ngo06]

hmm i agree with what penguinism said.... but i think that sora hasn't show all of his abilities... after all he is the previous wind king...

[T.Y.]

He is also currently the wind king, the owner of Bagrahm, and still the closest one to being the sky king

[penguinism]

He is also currently the wind king, the owner of Bagrahm, and still the closest one to being the sky king
but sora also said ikki with the bagrahm is something even he himself couldnt stop

so i doubt sora's capability with the wind regalia, especially since he lost to kilik once before...which also makes me duobt that sora>nike...since nike has the gem regalia and the gem regalia beat the wind regalia once before...

OH so many variables to take into account...

nike>sora>yoshitsune>sora>every1 else

OR

nike>yoshitsune>sora>nike>every1 else

either way nike is at the top and genesis is something that i doubt sleeping forest or koga can beat...for some reason i see the storm regalia being able to work in the tower just as well as ringo's does, then ringo and ikki team up and own sora+nike

[mibu]

but nike is not as strong as Kilik right. so it should be Sora and Nike at the top

[UchihaCelis]

for me its sora. even though nike is pretty strong too, he obeys sora and as it was said in chapter 184, sora's battle level exceeds 300.
still if ikki had nearly as much experience he'd b way better. 2 months and a battle level of 78 is pretty damn gd

[penguinism]

for me its sora. even though nike is pretty strong too, he obeys sora and as it was said in chapter 184, sora's battle level exceeds 300.
still if ikki had nearly as much experience he'd b way better. 2 months and a battle level of 78 is pretty damn gd
his being 300 means nothing when they havent said nike's, kilik's, or any other top riders battle level -_- all it is is a comparison to ikki, which isnt saying much especially since ikki doesnt even have a regalia and that 300 is sora WITH the bagrahm that she tuned for him

and when does it say nike obeys sora? i dont EVER remember it saying that, actually if i remember correctly it said NIKE was the real leader of genesis the one who made the team and got the whole working so wouldnt then sora be a part of his plan and not the other way around?

[Leave]

Nike bowed to Sora, remembeR?

I think that makes it pretty obvious.

[penguinism]

who says thats a bow? could have been a simple landing from a jump, which he WAS doing for sure considering how he had just jumped away from spitfire

also considering what a high jump it was it makes more sense that it was just a landing...i mean he jumped from the ground to the top of a building in 1 jump

[sakiru]

I think it was a bow. But, as said earlier, I also think it's by his choice. Nike's stronger, but Sora is better at manipulating people. They do need their followers and Nike doesn't have the charisma to keep them around.

[T.Y.]

I get wat penguinism was saying about how gem beat wind road before but didnt it say that the wind regalia is still incomplete and sora even said that his new bagrahm works better now and even spit admited that he was strong enough even without a tuner but yeah i'm starting to think the top spot is between Nike and Kilik (unless we start seeing something impressive from Sora)

[chaoticwings]

i think sora is stronger than nike still
hes like wicked strong :oh:

[Jakkin]

Kilik is just too pimp. That points thing is really awesome.

[T.Y.]

Kilik is just too pimp. That points thing is really awesome.


u mean how he grades u? that is very condescending, i think he is arrogant giving points like that, i mean how many points does he give himself? and in his point system is he the strongest?

[Whisp]

y did so many people vote for sora

[T.Y.]

y did so many people vote for sora

cause he kicks ass (pardon the language)!

[Jakkin]

u mean how he grades u? that is very condescending, i think he is arrogant giving points like that, i mean how many points does he give himself? and in his point system is he the strongest?

Because he's awesome... and we have yet to see his all. After all he did bitchslap sora before...

[T.Y.]

I wonder who is stronger when it comes to pure power? Kilik, Ikki, or Cyclops Hammer or Akira

*not fighting skills but just strength alone*

[Jakkin]

I wonder who is stronger when it comes to pure power? Kilik, Ikki, or Cyclops Hammer or Akira

*not fighting skills but just strength alone*

Kilik > Akira > Cyclops > Ikki

[sakiru]

Kilik > Akira > Cyclops > Ikki

Mitsuru>Ikki>Akira>Kilik, actually. Seeing as it's talking about physical strength rather than fighting ability. As in, who'd get higher scores on the punch machine?

Kilik could kick any of their asses, but he's also scrawny.

[Jakkin]

Shmeh...

[T.Y.]

Kilik is a killing machine but i can't imagine him being stronger than Ikki when it somes to just strength.

[Jakkin]

Kilik is a killing machine but i can't imagine him being stronger than Ikki when it somes to just strength.

I can... Ikki doesn't look that muscular but yet still punches out that 500 something...

[sakiru]

But Ikki is also incredibly toned. Someone made a note of that while he was in the hospital, if I remember correctly... and he started out street brawling. Kilik on the other hand is the "brains" type of character.

[Jakkin]

But Ikki is also incredibly toned. Someone made a note of that while he was in the hospital, if I remember correctly... and he started out street brawling. Kilik on the other hand is the "brains" type of character.

We shall see who is pimp in the future.

[T.Y.]

Kilik = total pimpage, bow down bitches(pardon the language) !

[Raenef]

the brains is yoshitsune
the brute power is probably nike / akira
the leader is more of kilik than anyone else
the at-skill l33tness is probably yoshitsune / sora / kilik
current ikki's still developing. he's no where near the top of any category.

[T.Y.]

Of all the kings, Agito has to be the weakest, i mean all the other kings can kick his ass

[Jakkin]

Of all the kings, Agito has to be the weakest, i mean all the other kings can kick his ass

He's also recovering and only just regained his kingship.

[T.Y.]

But his battle level is only 88 while Sora , Nike, and Kilik is over 300

[Tenx]

kilik is actually the strongest..
lets remember that he kicked sora's ass once... and it doesnt seem that he "stopped" praticing with his AT's...
(even though i believe that OG want to make sora better than him)

the dangerous is sora with no doubt ^^

ikki is still just a child... in the end he will be the strongest.. but now.. he doesnt stand a chance against any of the brothers, nor yoshitsune nor ringo nor kilik...

[chaoticwings]

well techinically when ikki fought ringo, they ended in a tie

[miniii]

Only with the help of Kururu and the dummy bagram she put into ikki's AT...
He would have been dead meat others falling.

[zxcvbn]

The fact that Ikki tied with Ringo with an un-tuned, untested, fake prototype Regalia while Ringo herself had a fully tested and tuned Regalia speaks a lot for Ikki's capabilities. He's already surpassed Ringo in sheer skill: that's why O!Great decided to 'up the ante' by giving Ringo a power-up(i.e. Ikki would have to beat her at the Trophaeum's bottom).

[T.Y.]

But Ringo could have not used her Regalia and that itself would have been a great advantage to her because the thorn road is a self-destructive road. She could have easily beat Ikki but she wanted to go all out and win because she said something like let's give it our all. At the current state, even if Ikki had the storm regalia, within the zero gravity zone, Ringo will pwn Ikki

[Tenx]

field strategy is part of ur power...
the one who just hav a LOT power... cant beat who hav power and a brain...
for now.. that's why ringo still can beat ikki... ringo knows A LOT more of ATs than ikki...
her gravity field... is her strategy... if ikki wants to beat her is better that he use his brain.. otherwise... he's just an asshole..
or its better that OG save him hahahah
and i believe ikki still cant beat ringo anywere..
and it was a long time ago that ringo made her last tuning... so.. i should not be so tunned as it could be...

[T.Y.]

I thought she refused to get it tuned from that guy who used to be Rika's former tuner

[Tenx]

do we hav to put spoiler boxes in this topic? xD
its almost everything a spoiler lol

anywayz..

if u mean kanon... well.. it seems that he tunned her... he said to ikki that he we're the guy that knows everything bout her and that he hav done somethings with her... ringo only got red and didnt said anything, showing that it was true.....(i dont remember exactly the words)
at least.. this is what O!G seems to want us to believe...
and well.. it dont seem that he cares too much with the "purity" of some characters... we can see that cause he already showed her naked a few times..

[Jakkin]

The fact that Ikki tied with Ringo with an un-tuned, untested, fake prototype Regalia while Ringo herself had a fully tested and tuned Regalia speaks a lot for Ikki's capabilities. He's already surpassed Ringo in sheer skill: that's why O!Great decided to 'up the ante' by giving Ringo a power-up(i.e. Ikki would have to beat her at the Trophaeum's bottom).

Or does it merely prove the insanity of the Wind Regalia.

do we hav to put spoiler boxes in this topic? xD
its almost everything a spoiler lol

anywayz..

if u mean kanon... well.. it seems that he tunned her... he said to ikki that he we're the guy that knows everything bout her and that he hav done somethings with her... ringo only got red and didnt said anything, showing that it was true.....(i dont remember exactly the words)
at least.. this is what O!G seems to want us to believe...
and well.. it dont seem that he cares too much with the "purity" of some characters... we can see that cause he already showed her naked a few times..
Kanon is Ringo's Tuner. Although as a love-interest Ringo rejected Kanon.

And also, Oh Great! Did pr0n before AG so his ecchi-ness is possibly a result from that as well. Also, Volume 6 of AG is out in English Manga in Stores. Bought it yesterday.

[T.Y.]

Still Ringo kicks butt and kickes more butt in zero gravity

[chaoticwings]

true...but still Ikki has only been usin AT's for barely a year while Ringo has been usin them for a longer time
if Ikki trained more, i think he oculd beat Ringo even if she goes all out

[miniii]

true...but still Ikki has only been usin AT's for barely a year while Ringo has been usin them for a longer time
if Ikki trained more, i think he oculd beat Ringo even if she goes all out

6 months to be correct >.<
But lvl78 at 6 months is pretty good, same lvl as Aeon I believe at the Behemoth match.
But Ikki doesn't have much time left now until GST, or even currently having a team to go to GST, like losing one of their best players..

[Tenx]

Kanon is Ringo's Tuner. Although as a love-interest Ringo rejected Kanon.

And also, Oh Great! Did pr0n before AG so his ecchi-ness is possibly a result from that as well. Also, Volume 6 of AG is out in English Manga in Stores. Bought it yesterday.


ringo rejected the love from kanon... but.. he hav tunned her...

i agree with ya... i believe OG! cant take off his ecchi side in his drawings...


nah.. ikki is the everything king lol... of course that soon he will surpass everyone, and ringo is one of the everyone xD /o/

[p4091a]

but how long will it take for Ikki to surpass the other kings? Technique can't be perfected overnight; regardless of Ikki's natural talent, he still needs time, of which he doesn't have much now...

[Tenx]

since it seems to be a happy story xD... ikki hav just the time that he need...
and in the last moment he will achieve the power and technique that he needs to beat who is in front of him xD

[Jakkin]

I still think that the old man, the principal, will enter in with some really kick-ass team...

[T.Y.]

Well Ikki and Sora are the closest to being the sky king, so they were born with more potential than anyone else (except Kilik who is a born genius)

[Tenx]

I still think that the old man, the principal, will enter in with some really kick-ass team...

u.u .... i had forgotten 'bout him.... thats a really good point... he could easily be the strongest evar... just by the fact that he almost not appears on the manga.. but when he appears... he shows us great stuff.. and by the fact that there is usually there is no fun in reading a story where an old guy who doesnt need to improve anymore and kick everyone asses just by looking at them... except for hellsing(allucard) xD.

[T.Y.]

why do ppl think he (old man) is an amazing rider? Kilik did leave the wind regalia to protect but i thought it was because he was the most reliable perosn he knew

[Jakkin]

Do you not remember the first time he and ikki met... come on man... old man was cruisin' along and ikki was on a bike tryin' to keep up. I mean seriously, Old man is like the pimp of AG.

[Tenx]

and more!
he own the school.. which hav lots of secrets involving AT...
that old folk really pwn...

[chaoticwings]

yea the old guy is pretty cool
anyway back to Ikki,
maybe Aeon will use his time thingy to stop time for Ikki to train!?!?!? :rofl:

[T.Y.]

Umm dont think so, Aeon looks more like the Tekeuchi brothers' errand boy if anything. Aeon wont do anything like show his face to them yet because if he does he will have top answer a shit load of questions

[miniii]

Stopping time is a lil trick anyway, although I'm still not sure how they do it.
Only people that can do it with him will benefit from it, Ikki can't stop time and therefore theoretically can't join him when stopping time.
It looks like he is Genesis's little doll anyway.
The principal could be good, but we haven't seen enough of him yet to make any predictions >.>

[Tenx]

the base of the time stop is just a simple fact that einstein showed us...

he something like:

with no light... there is no time....
the light... is the thing that moves in the highest speed possible.... the light say how the time goes...

relativity .. thats the key..

considering that u can walk in the lightspeed... what will happen...

simple...

everything will look like its stoped.....


lets make a different analogy....

imagine... that u are lookin to an micro ant in ur desk... and its is moving at a speed of 0.1cm/hour u cant see it moving...
for 2 reasons.. the first.. is ur size... and the second... is that u are tons of times faster than her....
just imagine that now u're going to a race with her...

thats aeon trick....
thats why his trick didnt work with nike sometime later on the battle...

[T.Y.]

Aeon doesn't stop time, he just move in a incredible speed that gives the opponent the feeling of time being stopped, that's why when he went inside the dudes house, he put a bomb in his hand and set the timer to like 3 sevconds and got out of there,he really can't do much other than that

[Jakkin]

Stopping time is a lil trick anyway, although I'm still not sure how they do it.
Only people that can do it with him will benefit from it, Ikki can't stop time and therefore theoretically can't join him when stopping time.
It looks like he is Genesis's little doll anyway.
The principal could be good, but we haven't seen enough of him yet to make any predictions >.>

It's not really a matter of stopping time. It's more of a matter of illusionment and tricking the sight-receptors in the brain. Or at least that was what the Behemoth battle was about.

[miniii]

Oh ye~
We just did principle of relativity the other day in my physics class >.<
I totally forgot he was a speed rider too lol (ouch, someone threw a rock at me?)
Anyway, i guess that's that...

[T.Y.]

we have officially moved from the topic strongest rider to physics,
what's next? who invented the toilet bowl?!
well anyway going back to the topic, Aeon used to be the flame king too right?
does that mean he was better than spit at some point?
anyway i hope kazu finally learns to use the flame road and wear the regalia

[Jakkin]

we have officially moved from the topic strongest rider to physics,
what's next? who invented the toilet bowl?!
well anyway going back to the topic, Aeon used to be the flame king too right?
does that mean he was better than spit at some point?
anyway i hope kazu finally learns to use the flame road and wear the regalia

No. Aeon was never the flame king. He wanted to be but Spitfire beat him too it.

[Thallc]

Hehe I'd say Spitfire, although he is rusty from not battling for a long time, he is one of the smartest guys in the entire series, he anticipated everything, even his own death (which im still not sure of the the aeon clock was suddenly not death either) and Spitfire is endlessly more skilled then AK ;) just my decision.

[Jakkin]

Hehe I'd say Spitfire, although he is rusty from not battling for a long time, he is one of the smartest guys in the entire series, he anticipated everything, even his own death (which im still not sure of the the aeon clock was suddenly not death either) and Spitfire is endlessly more skilled then AK ;) just my decision.

Spitfire is dead. Aeon is not dead because... umm... h4x?!11

[T.Y.]

When it comes to most dangerous, I would have to say its Nike because when he goes beserk like he did when Kilik pwned Sora, he is almsot unstoppable, even Kilik (despite the fact that he was injured) was owned and had to run away. But if both was at top shape and Nike was in berserk mode, it would be an even fight.

[Jakkin]

Nue would probably be bitchin' if his regalia wasn't so damn bulky with wires and shit.

[netto90]

powerful eh...erm mine would be nue... sillently making trap, can anytime kill...
but if ume is on the list, i choose her as well, cause of the many beating she give to ikki in the gravity chamber....lol

[Tenx]

Hehe I'd say Spitfire, although he is rusty from not battling for a long time, he is one of the smartest guys in the entire series, he anticipated everything, even his own death (which im still not sure of the the aeon clock was suddenly not death either) and Spitfire is endlessly more skilled then AK ;) just my decision.

and how can the stronggest rider hav lost to nike and sora....
and nike fought alone most of the time....

spit is a great guy... but he is a bit far away from being the stronggest...

powerful eh...erm mine would be nue... sillently making trap, can anytime kill...
but if ume is on the list, i choose her as well, cause of the many beating he give to ikki in the gravity chamber....lol

lol xD

[netto90]

and to think ume is the weakest members of S.F...lol XD

[T.Y.]

you cant exacty asay that but its possible, she has enormous amount of strength that even scares ikki, and we all know how strong he is

[netto90]

woah...really? when did ume worked out? lol

[underjuvie]

powerful, I'd say Ikki. There are moments though that I find him so inadequate but seeing that he only just started, well, I bet he'll even be better than Sora when time comes.

most dangerous probably goes to Nike. He's just crazy, I think. Sora's more of the disciplined kind of scary but Nike's a whacko and it looks like he just enjoys beating people up.

So there.

[Jakkin]

Kuu will bitchslap Ikki.

Kuu just pwns hardcore... someone bitchslap Oh Great! into drawing kuu more.

[netto90]

em.. what is that mean?

[T.Y.]

Kuu will bitchslap Ikki.

Kuu just pwns hardcore... someone bitchslap Oh Great! into drawing kuu more.

umm dude just lost u there, by kuu do u mean the crow?

[netto90]

kuu is that crow of ikki right? i think that is the only one.....

[T.Y.]

then that was so unnecessary because the tread is asking for the most powerful storm rider, i think it was this post and we trailed off and peng got mad and said something about only typing about the topic in the thread, anywho, what happened to all the old kings? after the war within the SF broke out they all quit or something? I wonder how strong they were. But the rumble king now definitely kicks ass cause he can pwn agito and ikki at the same time

[miniii]

Wow, off tracked abit?
Anyhow, i want to see more of Yoshitune's ability~
We hardly know what it does, except that is sucks in air and spits it back at them.

[Kallas]

I think Sora is the strongest, because he bitchslapped Spitfire and Aeon... Plus the girl that tuned him said his Battle Level was something like around 1000 I think...

[p4091a]

but sora had nike's help; 2 regalias vs 1 (and after spit pssed his to kazu it was 0) just isn't a fair fight you know.... >.<

[miniii]

I think Sora is the strongest, because he bitchslapped Spitfire and Aeon... Plus the girl that tuned him said his Battle Level was something like around 1000 I think...

More like 300, 1000 means over 12x stronger than Ikki, which is TOO rigged.
And even Kilik said Sora + Nike creates an ultimate team, bringing out both of their abilities over the limit, in comparison of them two soloing.
Think about this, Nike can stone them, both of them can basically use wind and Sora had the bagrahm at hand.
While Spitfire and Aeon only had the fire regalia, with battle levels of max 120 i would imagine, with aeon having 79? or so battle level at the behemoth match.
But i guess because of Aporon Road, that could increase to say 100, and spitfire is a little stronger, about lvl120.
The numbers are made up, but hey, we get the idea >.<

[T.Y.]

sora would still have kicked Aeon and Spit anyway even if he was by himself

[Bach]

If Ikki wasn't the main character he wouldn't be the most powerful... XD

But personally, I prefer Kazu, even if, at the moment, Sora is the strongest guy. (It's not what my signature says but who cares?)

[T.Y.]

i want to see yoshitsune (i think thats the name) he has the brains of a super computer, battle sense of a war general and the skills and the equipments to back it up. He excels in intelligence, he is a fighting wiz, he is not strong but not weak either, and has a total mastery of his regalia, i mean that's pretty fearsome. He has like almost no flaws, no wonder he is the king of kyoto

[miniii]

I think Yoshitune rules all of west Japan, not just Kyoto to memory...

[T.Y.]

him and his trident generals, west of japan is in their hands but i thnik their base is in Kyoto

[Avalon]

If Yoshi and Sora is fighting, who will win the match?

[miniii]

Who knows, Sora is lvl300+, and let's assume Yoshi 200 MAX...
But yoshi's regalia is good against sora, sora is crazy...

Interesting battle, but they are both unfortunately genesis T.T

[Avalon]

yeah I know, but, let's only think of it... if sora's wind is get suck into yoshi's regalia... what should sora do?

[T.Y.]

umm yoshi's regalia depends on the wind of others, but sora can generate pretty strong wind, i don't know if rumble regalia could take on the bagrahm at full power.

[miniii]

I think what T.Y. says would be more realistic...
He created a tornado like wind around him when vs'ing Spitfire and Aeon, i don't think rumble can handle a tornado...
But who knows?

[netto90]

hm... rumble cant absorb all that air? if it can, that will be one a heck of a blast!

[Avalon]

Let's hope yoshi will betray sora and join to Koga's side. So, we can see them fight! *on my dream* :lol:

[netto90]

hm..but yoshi, does not all like to follow him right? (i think im getting of topic)

[Avalon]

I think so, just end it. Sorry for OOT. and I still believe that Kilik is the most powerful stormrider now. :lol:

[netto90]

but, i think ringo is more stronger than him, he cant resist in the gravity chamber and ringo is just fine....

[miniii]

At the bottom ringo could be stronger but in 0G, Kilik would be a lot stronger i think.
But same with the Sora + Yoshi example, they're in the same team and we'll never know.

[Avalon]

Yeah, It'll only happen if Ringo Join Koga's side *I say it again... :lol:* Kilik is the best!

[miniii]

I'm with you on that, Kilik is the best!

[netto90]

down with him....ume will punce him! lol

[Avalon]

O yeah, I never imagine that ume is strong too... a member of Sleeping forest? she must have a skill like a queen it self...

[miniii]

But she's the weakest member of SF according to other SF members...
I wonder who the other 2 SF members are, they haven't came out yet i believe?
Kilik, Ume, Ringo, Ohm, Gabishi, Mikan... who are the other 2 characters >.>

[netto90]

well, at least i know that ikki is weaker than Ume, by in terms of strength i mean..