Who likes Ringo?

[silverstar11]

Ringo is one complicated character in the manga. Lots of ups and down during her character development. But I really like her exept for her devotion to Ikki. I'm waiting for her to finally move on. But it's so sad that she doesn't have fans..Please I like to know your opinion about her.

[midorika]

ME ME ME!! I love Ringo~~! :D

I see her as a strong character and yeah, she's very concern about Ikki's progress in AT... I like her better when she's without her glasses, but that's something special about her and make her stand out among the other characters.. and especially since she's always changing it... She is performing well in her studies and she is the Thorn Queen - nice~~
But i would like to know more about her origin - the gravity children that is~~
and omg, she appeared in the manga since chapter 1... she can't lose to kururu!!!

[zxcvbn]

I don't like Ringo, even though the manga tries to make her a sympathetic character. Yes, she's good natured, kind and likes Ikki, but a few good points won't make up for all the bad things she's done or been involved in.

As leader of Sleeping Forest and its 'Crazy Apple', she's been involved in the death/maiming of many Stormriders, their only crime(in most cases) that they tried to reach the Trophaeum.

-She didn't restrain Om and Gabish when they went around killing and maiming enemy Stormriders. She didn't intervene even when they attacked Ikki's team fully intending to kill/cripple them(why didn't Ikki mention that during their confrontation).

-She personally attacked a defenceless Simca and rendered her unable to ride ATs ever again.

-She refused to comfort Ikki in his despair after Sora's betrayal, sticking to her team instead, even though she knew that their ideals were questionable.

And don't give me that stuff about Kilik being the real leader of Sleeping Forest. Ringo's the official leader and I'm sure she has a big say in their affairs(I doubt she didn't know about Om and Gabishi attacking Ikki's team).

In the end, the bad outweighs the good in her.

[Katsuomori]

Cute and beautiful. She's quite and sometimes funny. The does care for others (especially Ikki) though she doesn't really did manage to make then known that. Stubborn sometimes. Her AT tricks are so cool.

[Black Rabbit]

ehhhh, ringo comes fourth on my list... Kururu, Simca, Mikan, Ringo....
sometimes i can tolerate her sometime i can't. but most of the time i can't and yeah what the hell is a crazy apple? last time i check apples are inanimate objects you eat....and not crazy. weird girl she is.

[Storm King]

I still Like Ringo.....I can Understand why others don't like her, but I think after the Tournament she'll truly be free from her burden

[Fredegart]

I hope she can free herself of this burden...
Because i don't like the person she is now...
In the beginning I was hoping that ikki ended up with ringo...
I don't wanna even think bout this now...
Ringo is a nice person, kind, cute and a great rider.. But this leadership from SF is making her a truly crazy apple (even I not knowing wtf a crazy apple is like Black Rabbit said... =P)

[Katsuomori]

I do hope the same as well... right now both Ikki and ringo are enemies though they probably liked each other... sigh... just like Romeo and Juliet in the AT world. Maybe after Gran Scale Torrament that both of them will be free from their burdens.

[Fredegart]

But even if this happens I would like to not see them ending up together like Romeo and Juliet though.
Kururu for being able to show her feelings and intentions, running from home and leavin all behind to stay with him deserves him too many times more than ringo.
Ringo and Ikki should be friends again and maybe act like brother and sister one more time and always stays that way.
=P

[lycannick]

i liked her at first but now because of her being the leader of sleeping forest and the at battle against ikki i dont really like her so much

[Satralis]

Yea in the beginning i liked her innocent nature . The way she acts all shy and tries her best to get his love interests intention... well that was i thought in the beginning. But than it turned out that while shes acting all that way, she basically whipes out people, and also is up to these foolish things as the "motto" of SF (that hunter being hunted thing), which makes it look like one of her sides is fake. (In reality you cant be both the crazy apple and the kind girl next door with alll honesty...but u can act of course...) and to me it looked like that her beliefs are stronger so the REAL Ringo is the crazy apple, the leader of SF, the protector of the forest etc... Even the manga mentions while she battles with Ikki that now we can see the true Ringo and for that i dont like her. Well the usual causes are already asnwered in other threads (the fight with Ikki, the crippling of Simca, that only lasts for about 6 month...the little sergion sure can predict :P) so i wont mention those as reasons.

Also: lycannick: u have the most scariest avatar ive ever seen :D

[pngo]

Please people, I gotta love all this excuses of why they hate Ringo, the FACT is the hate started the second Kururu appeared in the Manga lol

[druid lord]

Please people, I gotta love all this excuses of why they hate Ringo, the FACT is the hate started the second Kururu appeared in the Manga lol

A rather ignorant statement not only unifiedly denying all opposer's of their opinion's without a shred of evidence but also disrespecting those opinions
nice god complex you have built yourself their Kilik :mad:

Wile i must say it is reasonable to assume a fair number of the ppl against ringo-X-ikki started during the introduction of Kururu it is quite something to state all the ppl who are against it actually hate Ringo's character it's self (i just hate the blissfully hypocrisy hole that is her existence) but i would say a fair number of ppl (including myself) do not actually hate Ringo as its more so a disgust in her and others thinking she still has a chance (in a realistic situation with logic applied Ringo is ringing /FAIL's all day long) lets simply stack things up here.

Kururu gave everything to be with him.

Ringo did not.

the end.:)

[Raenef]

Ringo did not impair Simca to a such extent that she may never ride AT again. It is revealed that later on that they only did it so that Simca stayed out of the Genesis vs SF conflict.

Gabishi killed no one. Only took the face skins of his victims. The victims reappear when Gabishi is captured, as a threat from Yo****sune.
Om...dunno what she did to the funky hair guy [close to Benkei] was killing or w/e Om does seem nice natured.

Ringo is the one who actually understood everything about ikki.

Ringo's infinity atmosphere has the coolest name

Ringo's cute.

I <3 Ringo.

...btw, IMO Ringo stopped trying to give everything to be with Ikki from the point where Ikki proved that he understood what situation Ringo is in. Ringo probably thinks Ikki will and does understand her position as the leader of SF. You can always say Kururu left against her father's will...but let's face it...her father's in a fagish AT team as well... =[

[Fredegart]

You've got good points but you know?
Ringo attacked Simca... And this excuse of Simca staying out of genesis x sf... I don't agree completely... She didn't have to do that. After all simca was trying to explain somethings for ikki... And SF team just crushed her to make Ikki stay neutral and choose for himself (that was no like that as they tried to put things on ikki's head on the tower).

Gabishi took the face skins... and that's cruel... when ppl that had their faces taken reappeared they were all wearing masks... All of them transfigured.

Ringo know everything about Ikki cause she lived with him their whole life... If she didn't knew... she could just die!

Her infinity atmosphere is cool though... And she's cute too... But when she becomes crazy apple she isn't the kinda Ringo we all are used to know.

And, btw... she never stopped trying, cause she never tried... The only time she tried something was during their run... And that was just about things about AT's and genesis, or SF... Nothing about them. So Kururu takes lead, cause she gave everything... She's dropped her school, house and not going to the tower she's not acting like she should have (as the new pledge queen). So she is doing what ringo could have done... droping thorn queen post I mean and being with who she likes. After all... what is most important for her.
=D

[Hyuver]

About her position in SF, she is just no more than a puppet that controlled by Kilik and co, she must be not agree about SF killing and attacking people wildy like Om and Gabishi did, but what did she do? even her subordinate didn't obey her, she is just merely a ace puppet that Kilik have...

This Kururu and Ringo debate reminds me of the Aeris and Tifa debate long time ago LoL...

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I like Ringo, she has a lot of nice sexy moments in the manga, maybe the most and that's what I like about her. In every volume there are a lot of sexy pics of Ringo, so how can you not like her. She's the one that ends up at least showing the most. Ringo is even getting hotter as the story progress, all I have to say is tha OG does a good job with her. But in the end I like Ringo, but to me Kururu is better, well it depends on what her hair color is going to be for me.

[Raenef]

About her position in SF, she is just no more than a puppet that controlled by Kilik and co, she must be not agree about SF killing and attacking people wildy like Om and Gabishi did, but what did she do? even her subordinate didn't obey her, she is just merely a ace puppet that Kilik have...

This Kururu and Ringo debate reminds me of the Aeris and Tifa debate long time ago LoL...

Actually...it is what she believes in as well.
The attack took place AFTER Simca's lil convo with Ikki...= o=;
Ringo's been trying since the time Ikki fell from the tower [saved by the giant crow] til their run as Wind King and Thorn Queen.
Having Ikki finally understanding her, she transposed her mindset fully to the duties of SF......IS what i~ think. XD

RINGO IS ON THE Front COVER THE MOST!!! >=3

i <3 kururu's innocence as well.

[Fredegart]

This is something i would like to know...
Why is ringo at the front cover till now when her character almost doesn't appear anymore?
I guess should be Kururu on those covers.
=D

And I don't know...
It don't look like she is just a puppet...
She's doing that by her own... It's, like Raenef said, something that she believes... Even with the fact that I not agree with her ways of doing things...

[Raenef]

from the way ppl say things...many seem to think SF is a ****weed villains..= 0=...odd....i think the otherwise..O 0O!

[Katsuomori]

But even if this happens I would like to not see them ending up together like Romeo and Juliet though.
Kururu for being able to show her feelings and intentions, running from home and leavin all behind to stay with him deserves him too many times more than ringo.
Ringo and Ikki should be friends again and maybe act like brother and sister one more time and always stays that way.
=P

Yeah, I guess so. Kururu is brave and I give her that. Well, like Spitfire said... if Ikki would have accepted the offer to become Genesis's leader, the conflict between the Sleeping Forest and Genesis would have been avoided since Ringo and Ikki are already deeply involved.

[Fredegart]

from the way ppl say things...many seem to think SF is a ****weed villains..= 0=...odd....i think the otherwise..O 0O!

Well...
I used to think that way...
But now I see that the Takeuchi Brother's are the villains.
They're are selfish and do things of their interests without thinkin about others... Like they did with Ikki-kun.

[Raenef]

sora's evil phag.....nike's a dumb phag.....that is all.:rolleyes:

[Katsuomori]

If only Spitfire and Aeon Clock would live instead of Sora and Nike. I hate Sora's cocky look.

[Fredegart]

It was just get the regalia that he became like a god or something in his mind.
He was ok when he was on the wheelchair.
I hope that in the end he return to that chair and never stand up again.
And hope that Rika gaves him some punches to keep him put.
=D

[Katsuomori]

Speaking about Rika... she might be the one who has the worst blow.

Anyway, we should be talking about Ringo here.

[Hyuver]

Actually...it is what she believes in as well.
The attack took place AFTER Simca's lil convo with Ikki...= o=;
Ringo's been trying since the time Ikki fell from the tower [saved by the giant crow] til their run as Wind King and Thorn Queen.
Having Ikki finally understanding her, she transposed her mindset fully to the duties of SF......IS what i~ think. XD

RINGO IS ON THE Front COVER THE MOST!!! >=3

i <3 kururu's innocence as well.

About the Simca you are correct
However that's only 30 Point! *imitating Kilik*

I really can't imagine she could bring herself too kill people like what Om did, in the end no matter what people said she is just a tool of Sleeping Forest, Kilik only choose her to became the leader because only she could adapt to that gravity, if suddenly Sleeping Forest split up because of the conlifct like what happen to Sora and Kilik, seriously how many people of the team would follow Ringo?

I don't say Sleeping Forest is an evil team but it's not a noble team either, attacking people is ok but as far as killing people is too far, Ringo ever said that Regalia could be used as a tool to kill people that's why she want to destroy all the regalia, then WTF are she doing when Om use her regalia to kill Kokuen....

[Fredegart]

I don't say Sleeping Forest is an evil team but it's not a noble team either, attacking people is ok but as far as killing people is too far, Ringo ever said that Regalia could be used as a tool to kill people that's why she want to destroy all the regalia, then WTF are she doing when Om use her regalia to kill Kokuen....

Nice one there...
I will stay with this one too!

[Fredegart]

Speaking about Rika... she might be the one who has the worst blow.

Anyway, we should be talking about Ringo here.

First of all...
Rika agreed to Sora helping Ikki to reach high levels...
But when he talked about wearing AT's again he got punched...
She must be very shocked with this turn of events.

And second...
Yeah... We really should be talking about Ringo!
But i think that Ringo isn't that much now to be talked about.
I prefer talk about Kururu! <3
=D

[Katsuomori]

First of all...
Rika agreed to Sora helping Ikki to reach high levels...
But when he talked about wearing AT's again he got punched...
She must be very shocked with this turn of events.

And second...
Yeah... We really should be talking about Ringo!
But i think that Ringo isn't that much now to be talked about.
I prefer talk about Kururu! <3
=D

I'm sure rika still have some strong feelings for Sora. And yeah... not much to talk about Ringo but to sympathize her for not being strong enough to make her stand (despite the kiss) in Ikki's heart. She should have hugged him and supported him but Kururu hugged him instead.

[zxcvbn]

Ringo did not impair Simca to a such extent that she may never ride AT again. It is revealed that later on that they only did it so that Simca stayed out of the Genesis vs SF conflict.
The doctor who examined her said that she'd never ride ATs again. She may be able to walk in 6 months as Ringo said, but it's a career ending injury.

from the way ppl say things...many seem to think SF is a ****weed villains..= 0=...odd....i think the otherwise..O 0O!
They're not really villains, but they're not good guys either. Their ideals may seem noble, but they've done too many questionable things to achieve it. Neither black nor white, but shades of gray. The Sora brothers are pure evil though, so if I had to choose I'd support SF instead of Sora. But right now, the only good side is Ikki's.


I hope that in the end he return to that chair and never stand up again.
And hope that Rika gaves him some punches to keep him put.
=D
Sora doesn't deserve to live after everything he's done: manipulating the whole AT world and the mafia and causing the deaths of hundreds just for the sake of getting the Sky Regalia. Hopefully he'll die a horrible death. Nike too.

[Fredegart]

Dunno...
Maybe he didn't needed to stay on that wheelchair, but he did to cheat on ppl. This time could be definitive... Making him stay on forever... Knowing that he could never wear at's again... and never being able to walk again... this is a nice punishment for him.

[Hyuver]

Anyway about Ringo being the one who has the most cover must be because she is the female main character and about lack of Kururu in front of the cover it must be because it's just not her style to wearing open clothing like the one Ringo wearing in the cover :D

[Fredegart]

Anyway about Ringo being the one who has the most cover must be because she is the female main character and about lack of Kururu in front of the cover it must be because it's just not her style to wearing open clothing like the one Ringo wearing in the cover :D

But I guess that in this second season Kururu has become the female main character. Ringo almost doesn't appear anymore, how could she still be the main character?
And about the cover you're right... I don't wanna see her in that kind of clothes... it would ruin her image of shy and innocent girl.

[TuskOte]

it would be nice to see a hurricane of thorns road???:)

[spaz4tw]

I love Ringo I hope her and Ikki end up hooking up though it might not happen

[playsafe]

I hope Ringo sacrifices herself for Ikki. or something like that. either ringo/kururu.

[midorika]

Maybe Ringo will be the one to sacrifice..

[Katsuomori]

Simca will ride again... just that she will not be riding for a long time (long enough until the end of the Gran Scale Torrenment) but she'll ride again. In fact, Ringo did go easy on her.

I guess there ain't much about Ringo taking the lead into Ikki's life but Kururu instead. After all both have feelings for him.

[Life]

Simca will ride again... just that she will not be riding for a long time (long enough until the end of the Gran Scale Torrenment) but she'll ride again. In fact, Ringo did go easy on her.

I guess there ain't much about Ringo taking the lead into Ikki's life but Kururu instead. After all both have feelings for him.

Every girl likes him but Emily who's in love Kazuma.

[Katsuomori]

^Just like I've said which Emily once said: Why would any nice girls would fall for that bird brain Ikki?

Emily likes Kazu but this ain't what we should talk about here. :D

[Life]

I like Ringo but she starting to seem like..........

[Katsuomori]

^She starting to seem like...?

Nothing mcuh can be said about Ringo but to say that she's a little timid like Kururu... but Kururu somehow managed to gather her courage most of times especially when Ikki was given a huge blow about the betrayal.

[megami_yume]

how come i missed this thread???
I love Ringo!
*to the point that i'm preparing to cosplay/cos-trip :p*

i liked how her character developed (so far)
love the fact she's the head of sleeping forest
was super amazed at her when she fought ikki seriously for the first time^^
although i'm not too enthusiastic with her liking ikki too...^_^x
as well as her being croissant mask (and thinking no one'll recognize her)^_^x

she's soo cute when she says "crazy apple" :D

i wanna see more of her "crazy apple" side ^^

[silverstar11]

Me too, I really like the idea that she doesn't need anyone to protect her ;)and that she can fight on her own. (^o^)/.
Maybe that's the reason why Ikki's not into her.
I think Ikki wants someone he can protect.

[megami_yume]

yep ^^
hmm... i posted before i read the whole thread so my reply wouldn't be affected :p
after reading, i'll still stick to my post ^^
i'm not so sure many understood ringo like a girl can, ne?

[midorika]

Ringo is the best... I really don't see what's in kururu that attracts so many people... Shy and innocent she is.. but i prefer girls like Ringo.
Her responsibility as the head of sleeping forest tied her down i guess, regarding her relationship with Ikki which can't seem to develop any further as of the latest chapter. Since Ringo was introduced early in this manga, her character definitely has more substance than a character like kururu can have.. The late appearance of kururu doesn't appeal to me, maybe if she was introduced earlier, then i would have been more ready to accept her as ikki's partner... Ringo has burdens on her shoulder, while kururu is now so relax running around just to stick with ikki...

[silverstar11]

Ringo is the best... I really don't see what's in kururu that attracts so many people... Shy and innocent she is.. but i prefer girls like Ringo.
Her responsibility as the head of sleeping forest tied her down i guess, regarding her relationship with Ikki which can't seem to develop any further as of the latest chapter. Since Ringo was introduced early in this manga, her character definitely has more substance than a character like kururu can have.. The late appearance of kururu doesn't appeal to me, maybe if she was introduced earlier, then i would have been more ready to accept her as ikki's partner... Ringo has burdens on her shoulder, while kururu is now so relax running around just to stick with ikki...

Well said Midorika :D

[chrollo]

I like Ringo even though shes with sleeping forest shes only with them because shes doing what she thinks is the right thing to do which is to prevent someone like Sora from getting the regalia but i think she has already realized that It would ok if Ikki was the person to do it and kilik was probably testing Ikki to see if she was right about him

hopefully Ikki will realize how Ringo feels about him at the least
and i think if that happens she still has a chance with him
cause when he pictured Kururu in his head that time it was probably only because she said she would help him fly
after all it really does seem like he only thinks about AT
at least thats what im hoping was what happened

lso the spoiler for chp. 175 said that
Kanon challenged Ikki to a duel for Ringo
so it seems like she'll be back in the picture soon

and by the way wasn't Simica thankful to Ringo when she realized that ringo attacked her to protect her and thats why she released the two members of sleeping forest

[garp_27]

I still like Ringo because she's really independent. I mean, she has this huge secret behind her back and she acted so normal in front of ikki for so many years, and all those years she liked him a lot right? Yet she can't do anything much for him because of her circumstances, it's almost as if she keeps having to hold back her feelings all the time. It must be painful for her no? O_O... oh duh, she's the thorn road =___= ....so I guess well... both physical and mental pain now.. I really admire her strength though, how does she get through all this!?.... and after she realizes that Ikki prefers kururu over her... as like... a lover, then wouldn't she be devastated?.... Because all the things she's done so far in the series have been for ikki's sake, of course she's the queen of the SF and she has to carry out her duties there, but other than that she really worries about Ikki, and she hasn't really thought about any other family member much. But I suppose she'll have her sisters...... still.. must feel really lonely right?... .gosh.... I hope she finds a hotter guy or something.. or just decides to go with kannon... lol.....

[Fredegart]

Suddenly this became like a female thread.
=D
But you know?
it's not that everyone don't understand Ringo... Or dislike her...
I do like him, but i prefer kururu...
Ringo has her good points, she has her thing about not needing protection, cause she's an awesome rider.
About responsability... Everyone has responsabilities in life, but I think that it's not for this that we should back love away as ringo did. Not stayin with ikki cause of that is just bull**** for me.
Like that thing about croissant mask... If she wear that to help them during battle she could had used that for tell things to Ikki.
Ringo is hanging with SF and doing what she thinks is the right... But somethings were just too harsh, like deaths and that gabishi taking off ppl's faces. How can she let this kind of thing happen? Or she thinks this is right?

Ringo is ok as it's not at the same time...
I liked many times more the Ringo from the past...
And know we have Kururu... With her shy attitude... That... ok... It's not that much from many, but for others it's ok! But the mos important thing about her... She did something wrong at the tower time and apologized for that... She means that it was her fault, and wants to correct that... Much earlier than Ringo that only did this when it was too late...
She did right in every thing that ringo failed.
She stayed with ikki when he needed... And even when he didn't needed she stay with him running away from home cause she wanted to be with the one she loves.

I think that Ringo don't deserves to end up with ikki... but the reverse it's ok too... Now ikki and kururu has this connection... That in so little time they're this close.

My point is... I don't dislike ringo, but don't like her too.. My point about her is neutral.
=D
(at least for now...)

[chrollo]

well I'm betting she didn't tell Ikki cause she was afraid if he she was a gravity child he would think she was a freak or not even human
and i think that a large part of the reason for her being able to stay as leader of sleeping forest is because of her admiration for Ikki
plus i doubt kururu can do a german suplex
and besides i think everyone else in kogarasumaru likes her better than kururu

[zxcvbn]

Some people on this thread are saying that they prefer Ringo because she's more 'conflicted' or 'complex' or whatever. Does this mean they like the fact that she's done bad things? Not only has Ringo put her team's questionable ideals above her relationship with Ikki, but as a member of Sleeping Forest she's also performed or condoned actions like killing and maiming riders etc. that a good hearted person like Ikki would find despicable and never do himself. And you people say she's ideal for Ikki?

I understand if you think she's a better character overall than Kururu(although I disagree), but she isn't suitable for Ikki. Kururu, on the other hand, abandoned her team, her school and her family for Ikki's sake. She's the most devoted to him.

[Fredegart]

well I'm betting she didn't tell Ikki cause she was afraid if he she was a gravity child he would think she was a freak or not even human
and i think that a large part of the reason for her being able to stay as leader of sleeping forest is because of her admiration for Ikki
plus i doubt kururu can do a german suplex
and besides i think everyone else in kogarasumaru likes her better than kururu

About she not telling him i guess this isn't the motive... But that's just my guess. =P
About being SF leader cause admiration for ikki... I don't think this is the main or only reason... But i agree that this could fit in somewhere.
Now saying that koga prefer ringo than kururu it's obvious... Actually, not that much anymore. But Ringo was with everybody since the beginning... It was from the same school, and had a greater time to hang up with them in the AT life. Kururu entered the story now... But already got a place in every koga's member.. And in every AG's readers.
=D

[Fredegart]

Some people on this thread are saying that they prefer Ringo because she's more 'conflicted' or 'complex' or whatever. Does this mean they like the fact that she's done bad things? Not only has Ringo put her team's questionable ideals above her relationship with Ikki, but as a member of Sleeping Forest she's also performed or condoned actions like killing and maiming riders etc. that a good hearted person like Ikki would find despicable and never do himself. And you people say she's ideal for Ikki?

I understand if you think she's a better character overall than Kururu(although I disagree), but she isn't suitable for Ikki. Kururu, on the other hand, abandoned her team, her school and her family for Ikki's sake. She's the most devoted to him.

Yeah... I agree with you!

[tersalius]

well finally finshed reading till the latest chapter scanlated and downloaded the two raw chapters just to see what was going to happen, and i have to say this manga is getting better and better. now about ringo how can someone not like her? at the beginning of the manga she was exactly the good and old cliche of the main character childhood friend who cares for him, wants to protect him, well all that crap that we all know about. but now with this cool plot twist ( we cant say it was unxpected but even so its still cool) she reached a whole new level. i know that many will argue about that what she is doing now is exactly the opposite of what she showed us at the beginning of the manga, all that talk about freedom and to have fun with a.t, but thats what makes her unpretictable, at least for me, and for this reason an intersting character.
and just to finish all this senseless speech, i REALLY think that some of you people should read again the chapter where ringo kissed ikki, and this time pay attetion to the pictures, especialy ikki ones AFTER the kiss, and not just to the writting. maybe this way some of you will be able to notice ikkis true reaction to the kiss.

[midorika]

Ikki wanted to know what's the kiss is for right?? :D
That very moment was soooo sweet~~
I watched those few pages like for a dozen times...
The battle between ringo and ikki spanned a few chapters, isn't that great... As in lots of attention was put in regarding their relationship, and theirs are definitely something.
I must say, this couple's story is the best I've ever seen... The one with kururu is just - normal and typical...

[zxcvbn]

and just to finish all this senseless speech, i REALLY think that some of you people should read again the chapter where ringo kissed ikki, and this time pay attetion to the pictures, especialy ikki ones AFTER the kiss, and not just to the writting. maybe this way some of you will be able to notice ikkis true reaction to the kiss.
I read the chapter several times. Ikki doesn't even blush from that kiss. He was pretty much telling the truth in chapter 143 when he said Ringo's kiss was like kissing one's family member. Dunno if it's because of him being the shallow type that doesn't really understand love, but the only time he's shown such feelings is after the image of Kururu appeared in his heart.

[Hyuver]

The problem with love and hate between Ringo right now is because of O!G make her as totally different character and closed down her character improvment right after the Kyoto arc when Kururu first introduced, she was never the same person as before :o much like Udou Akira from behemoth after he join the police again he is not the same Akira of Behemoth again

Anyway about her can't be with Ikki because of Sleeping Forest is just a bullsh1t for me, she doesn''t have the quality to be a leader, he just choosen to be leader because she is the only one could withstand the gravity inside the forest... Even when Ikki talk about the enemy he must defeat after he got his fighting spirit back is Kilik not Ringo.. whenever everybody talk about sleeping forest what will pop up first in their head is Kilik

[tersalius]

he doesnt even blush? i knew someone would say that so at chapter 142 pag 179 first picture at the top left of the page (yeah i know this is a very precisly location, but like i said we have to pay attention to the details, thats why i like mangas) what we can see on okkis face? oh my god what is that, and that smile on ikkis face? of course im the crazy one here, because all that just means that he is happy with the fact he is leaving home, nothing to do with the kiss or even ringo!!! yeah like hell!!!
sorry for the irony.
one more thing, the last one i promise. all that talk about want to find his own wings and after that coming back to show them for her, well doesnt that sound like a promise? who knows in the end is all to oh great to decide who will be the one.

[midorika]

^ Yeah yea yea, exactly... the promise... sounds like ikki will still be going back to ringo... right,Ikki?????

[draco.rex]

i like Ringo

[Life]

I read the chapter several times. Ikki doesn't even blush from that kiss. He was pretty much telling the truth in chapter 143 when he said Ringo's kiss was like kissing one's family member. Dunno if it's because of him being the shallow type that doesn't really understand love, but the only time he's shown such feelings is after the image of Kururu appeared in his heart.

He blushes after though. I think Ikki considers Ringo more than a family member or he'd be calling her sister like Rika. You can't really believe that he actually believe that cause if he wanted his friend to how he really felt he would have told them they kissed but no Akito told them so he just said that to cover it up. He doesn't understand love he just pictured Kururu then she calls that doesn't really make any sense unless he has that sixth sense for Kururu that Ringo has for him and plus he always on about Ringo when something happens not as much as she is but when he was falling why Ringo Kururu was right there. Ikki doesn't really understand yet so he'll choose but holding Ringo accountable for everything SF does is ridiculous Kilik or some other mems do whatever they want look at that dude that tried to fight Kazu he did after he realized he wasn't the right dude and I doubt Ringo said beat down Ikki's crew and kilik looks like he can do whatever he likes other than steal the Sky reg and Om tried to commit suicide and I doubt Ringo said she should do it. I really mean the Ringo maybe the leader but she's a kid and the other mems are older so they do as the please the only thing Ringo can truly be blamed for is Simca's injury and thats kinda understandable.

BTW I just re-read the chapter.

[zxcvbn]

Let's make one thing clear: Ikki is one of those 'shallow, can't understand love' type guys. His feelings for Ringo are, for the most part, that one would feel towards a childhood friend or sister.
The only four times that he experiences REAL romantic feelings are:
1. After Ringo kisses him(only a slight blush, he's unable to fully understand what it was about).

2. When he sees Kururu in his heart(those who think this was only related to the phone call are deluding themselves; Oh!Great clearly intended this as an IkkixKururu hint, even Ikki is surprised at whose image appeared).

3. Just before meeting Kururu at the TTT headquarters in chapter 144, Ikki almost goes mad trying to sort out his feelings and tries to run away(shyness?).

4. In chapter 171, when Kururu returns, Ikki thinks of Akito's words "If you are thinking of each other as a necessity, then..."

Considering the above, it's 3:1 in Kururu's favour.

[Hyuver]

Let's make one thing clear: Ikki is one of those 'shallow, can't understand love' type guys. His feelings for Ringo are, for the most part, that one would feel towards a childhood friend or sister.
The only four times that he experiences REAL romantic feelings are:
1. After Ringo kisses him(only a slight blush, he's unable to fully understand what it was about).

2. When he sees Kururu in his heart(those who think this was only related to the phone call are deluding themselves; Oh!Great clearly intended this as an IkkixKururu hint, even Ikki is surprised at whose image appeared).

3. Just before meeting Kururu at the TTT headquarters in chapter 144, Ikki almost goes mad trying to sort out his feelings and tries to run away(shyness?).

4. In chapter 171, when Kururu returns, Ikki thinks of Akito's words "If you are thinking of each other as a necessity, then..."

Considering the above, it's 3:1 in Kururu's favour.
he blush after she kissing him but he doesn't blush when he touch her breast ROFL
Btw for Ikki and Ringo you are also missing when they are on the secret hideout, around vol 10 think, I forgot what's the story about but it after all taking bath and Onigiri sense Ringo is not there, those 2 have the moments there and almost kissed(I think... but Ikki face is so serious :p) before interupped by Agito and Ine

Also he does already have a thing on Kururu when those 2 in hospital making cup noodle but just a brief eh...

[tersalius]

very well said zxcvbn, but from the three things that you pointed out i think the most important one is akito's words, the rest looks more like oh great idea of a love triangle than hints about a possible romance. but i have to agree with you akitos words hold a very strong meaning.
and we dont have just one time where we experienced a ikki x ringo moment. just to give one more example about one of this moments, the whole scene where ikki puts his jacket over ringos shoulders while they are starring the amazing sky at night its a very strong scene too (its the chapter where ikki is going to fight those weird chinese people, the ones who are all the same). and to be precisly we still have two more moments like that, but ill let you try to find out where they are.
so now we have 4 to ringo and 3 for kururu, i know, this is getting silly.
as a matter of fact you are wrong about kururus moments, because we have much more than 3, since she has showed up, there are many times where we could say ikki is acting in a romantic way with her, and he blushes many times near her too.
so what all this crap means. we will have to wait to see if kururus is really the romantic pair for ikki or if she is just an "obstacle" to develop ikki x riongo pair.
time will tell!

[silverstar11]

I also notice that Ikki often blush when he's with Kururu, is it the same with Simca? Why not with ringo?

[penguinism]

he blushed with simca :p for the same reason he blushes with kururu, they get close to him, hold him, etc...ringo keeps to herself while the other 2 get close to ikki

[yankumi018]

I for one love Ringo Noyamano / Crazy Apple of Sleeping Forest....
there are many reasons to that and the first one is because she is a very formidable rider considering her status as the Thorn Queen and leader of the SF. Even though she is just a puppet leader, I would say that she deserves respect, given her responsibilities as a Gravity Child, a childhood friend of Ikki, close friend of the whole Kogarasumaru team and leader of Sleeping Forest.

Kururu on the other hand doesn't deserve the attention she's getting....She appears before Ikki and Ringo drifted....
let's say Ikki is already accustomed to being with a girl figure...Ringo not being there, he would definitely find another girl he can get close to....then insert that tuner and rider relationship...it's all unfair......!!!! That's why I don't like Kururu....:p

[Katsuomori]

Necessity... hmmm... I think that's important for Kururu to have that since she's Ikki's tuner. She probably want to be a part of his wings. About Ringo on other hand... time will tell if they ever meet again.

[Fredegart]

one more thing, the last one i promise. all that talk about want to find his own wings and after that coming back to show them for her, well doesnt that sound like a promise? who knows in the end is all to oh great to decide who will be the one.

Hum... I guess that was before meeting her in the trophaeum tower... Things had change a little bit there...

When Ringo kissed Ikki he was more surprised than other thing else.
When Ikki thinks of Kururu it's so different.
And even mikan said that ringo can't be ikki's wings anymore...
This place is now made for Kururu!

And how things will be?
Like Katsuomori said: "time will tell"
:D

[tersalius]

like you said things changed indeed, ikki learned that the real bad guy was sora brothers and that sleeping forest are not as bad as we all were thinking. so yeah things changed not for the worst but not for a better situation neither.
and about the kiss, its so hard to understand that at FIRST ikki was surprised, but the last picture during this whole kiss scene, what we have? an ikki with a smiling face (yes he is smiling, if you look at the picture you will see) and blushing. come on is not hard to see the point here. at that moment ikki realized ringos feelings, and looking at his reaction we can say that, at least, he appreciated it.
now to be clear, im not trying to say that just because of this single scene we are bond to have a future ringo x ikki. im just trying to make some people here realize the meaning in the whole scene, not just the one put in words but the one put in actions and reactions during the kiss.
but for now be proud kururu fans because its time for her to shine as bright as the sun (poetic huh?), and for the ones who like ringo, now is not a good time to expect much coming from her.

[Fredegart]

Now I have to agree with you...
It's not that the kiss didn't mean anything... But didn't go ahead either... Stopped right away cause Ringo steped off..
=P
But Kururu, I hope (and guess that many other ppl hope), will make Ikki be a man and stop being such a wuss by doing everything ringo didn't.
=D

[Life]

Now I have to agree with you...
It's not that the kiss didn't mean anything... But didn't go ahead either... Stopped right away cause Ringo steped off..
=P
But Kururu, I hope (and guess that many other ppl hope), will make Ikki be a man and stop being such a wuss by doing everything ringo didn't.
=D

Ringo seems to be the one F'ing up her relationship with Ikki and not that much SF cause she kissed him and she backed off I'm sure Ikki wouldn't have resisted if she just kept it going.

[tersalius]

fredegart, it was about time to someone realize what that kiss was about. its exactly like you said, it wasnt a kiss without any meaning, but also is not a kiss to go as far as to say that now we can be sure about ikkis feelings.
its kind of weird when people start to like a character they completely close their eyes to everything else. they start overeacting to all things related to the character they like and ignore completely all the things that happens with the others characters. that why such a simple scene as the kiss can have all this crazy comments that i read in this forums when in fact the meaning is right in front of your eyes! crazy huh!

[Satralis]

Ringo seems to be the one F'ing up her relationship with Ikki and not that much SF cause she kissed him and she backed off I'm sure Ikki wouldn't have resisted if she just kept it going.

Its not like Ikki resisted when Simca striped before him and slept in the same bed.
The only time Ikki stopped a girl was with Hako... but that was a serious scene so it couldnt be helped.
We still dont know why Ikki insisted on an explanation after the kiss. He might have wanted to clear the misunderstanding since he doesnt see Ringo in that way...

[Life]

Its not like Ikki resisted when Simca striped before him and slept in the same bed.
The only time Ikki stopped a girl was with Hako... but that was a serious scene so it couldnt be helped.
We still dont know why Ikki insisted on an explanation after the kiss. He might have wanted to clear the misunderstanding since he doesnt see Ringo in that way...

He had to that little ***** Akito was telling everybody that they kissed.

[tersalius]

satralis, where did you got the idea that ikki wanted to clear the misunderstanding? ikki wanted to ask what that kiss was about, and, again, for the reaction that he showed us at the last picture (dammit im getting tired of repeating it) we can see that he reacted in a way that express the idea that "at least" he didnt felt bad about the kiss.

[Satralis]

Realy? I didnt see that O.o... i slipped over it, it seems cause Akito wasnt even there when the kiss happened. Or am i just misunderstanding sg?

[Life]

Realy? I didnt see that O.o... i slipped over it, it seems cause Akito wasnt even there when the kiss happened. Or am i just misunderstanding sg?

Well remember when he crushed the can and and it was revealed Akito been telling his business. I really don't understand Ikki's mind.

[chrollo]

Maybe Ikki should just go with polygamy it worked for Mormons why not AT riders

[Satralis]

well i dont think he would be able to support a family of one man 50 woman and dont even mention the kids. (consider that how many fangirls he had as wind king lol)

[Life]

I can't hate her or truly dislike her but she's starting to seem lost in her character development.

[Fredegart]

satralis, where did you got the idea that ikki wanted to clear the misunderstanding? ikki wanted to ask what that kiss was about, and, again, for the reaction that he showed us at the last picture (dammit im getting tired of repeating it) we can see that he reacted in a way that express the idea that "at least" he didnt felt bad about the kiss.

It's not that he wanted to clear the misundestanding... It was more like "And now?"..
Haiuehaiuehaiueahi

[midorika]

I can't hate her or truly dislike her but she's starting to seem lost in her character development.

Oh!Great is responsible for that!! I would like to see what I want to see... Special request from midorika.. ii desu ka..?? LOLZ....:D

[ikki-08]

It's not that he wanted to clear the misundestanding... It was more like "And now?"..
Haiuehaiuehaiueahi

I pretty much see whereyour coming from. Ikki kinda knows that ringo loves him but he's just waiting for her to come out and tell him. Even after being betrayed by the ones he used to call his friends.

[Life]

I pretty much see whereyour coming from. Ikki kinda knows that ringo loves him but he's just waiting for her to come out and tell him. Even after being betrayed by the ones he used to call his friends.

Ikki and Ringo have that thing that makes it seem like its gonna happen but doesn't.

[silverstar11]

I pretty much see whereyour coming from. Ikki kinda knows that ringo loves him but he's just waiting for her to come out and tell him. Even after being betrayed by the ones he used to call his friends.

Yeah, I agree. The first move should be coming from Ringo since Ikki is so slow in this kind of stuff..Then We have to wait, hopefully Ringo will still be on the future chapters and will not be left behind.

[Fredegart]

But Ringo will have to change a lot to be able to tell Ikki that...
With the kiss wasn't enough to make ikki understand (he's so slow... lol) so this time I think that she needs to do something more... But that's the point...
I really don't think she will... After all, she didn't up till now!
And I still hope for Ikki to end up with Kururu...
=D

[pngo]

Yeah, I agree. The first move should be coming from Ringo since Ikki is so slow in this kind of stuff..Then We have to wait, hopefully Ringo will still be on the future chapters and will not be left behind.
Well didn't Ringo already made the first move? ;)

[Hyuver]

But end up in failure :D

[visualboy366]

at first i thought ringo was great because she helped ikkis team and all but when here true colors showed i started to dislike her a bit but still she is my favorite 1 :)

[Life]

Her True colors LOL those aren't her true colors or Ikki would know everything.

[Katsuomori]

From the battle between Ringo and Ikki... yeah, in the end... Ikki saw her true colours through her run. That's why he still trust her... :D

[HappyStealer]

First, sorry for the long post. I think ringo is a great character from the beginning. I definitely like ringo and kururu as my favorite female characters besides rika-nee. My reason for liking ringo is because at first, ringo tried helping out ikki, giving him AT's and showing how it is to fly. She believed in him and to me, I see it as, she went against the wishes of the members of sleeping forest and kilik in order to be with ikki. But to me, I think she realized that living in that moment, all of it is wrong. I personally see two factions when I think about ringo and kururu. Kururu reminds me of the romance side(willing to sacrifice everything for the one person they love) while ringo is the duties side(willing to do whats right to end it all and pray things between you and your lover doesn't change.) Basically, idealist vs. realist. You can view it somewhat like this, if you were a king or queen, would you choose love over abandoning your people and letting them suffer? I can also bring up harry potter (sorry, but i had to) that he chose his duties to fight voldemort over his love for ginny. That to me is the dilenma of her character. (If you had the power to change something, a.k.a. her being the only one who can withstand the pressure of zero gravity, would you do something or stand by and have your fling?) (Also, no one can say, why didn't she act earlier and attack sora directly, it doens't work that way since sora has to make his move first and try for the sky regalia. She becomes the strongest inside the final gram tournament field, any other field, she might get spanked as shown wiht her fight with ikki)You can also look at it from this point, I was watching an episode of scrubs and in the episode, everyone was pissed at the chief for closing down a wing in the hospital, which could of been used to admit more patients, thinking he only did it to save some money. At the end of the episode, the reason he closed down that wing was to offer free vaccinations or pregnancy tests (I forget which one) for the less fortunate. That is why I see her as a great example of what a leader must go through, you must do things against your own personal belief for the sake of many others. She always said that she regrets ever putting on AT and wants to get rid of it. To me, she is now working towards that goal and hopes in some part, that her relationship with ikki is not as damaged in the end. Bah, actually talking about her character, I like her even more now. I hope what I wrote made sense, and at the very least, gives more credit to her character than just a messy inconsistent character.

[midorika]

Messy inconsistent character referring to?? :sarcastic:

@HappyStealer - Yea, what you said made sense.. I'm an avid Ringo fan as well..:cool:

When she attacked Simca, I'm not really surprise or anything... And I think Simca knew and was ready for it... Ringo is really the very responsible and dutiful character... Yea, she did went against a bit of Sleeping Forest's rules to help out Ikki in the beginning.. If only Ikki knows that, I think he would be very grateful and grows fonder of her~~ :love:

[silverstar11]

First, sorry for the long post. I think ringo is a great character from the beginning. I definitely like ringo and kururu as my favorite female characters besides rika-nee. My reason for liking ringo is because at first, ringo tried helping out ikki, giving him AT's and showing how it is to fly. She believed in him and to me, I see it as, she went against the wishes of the members of sleeping forest and kilik in order to be with ikki. But to me, I think she realized that living in that moment, all of it is wrong. I personally see two factions when I think about ringo and kururu. Kururu reminds me of the romance side(willing to sacrifice everything for the one person they love) while ringo is the duties side(willing to do whats right to end it all and pray things between you and your lover doesn't change.) Basically, idealist vs. realist. You can view it somewhat like this, if you were a king or queen, would you choose love over abandoning your people and letting them suffer? I can also bring up harry potter (sorry, but i had to) that he chose his duties to fight voldemort over his love for ginny. That to me is the dilenma of her character. (If you had the power to change something, a.k.a. her being the only one who can withstand the pressure of zero gravity, would you do something or stand by and have your fling?) (Also, no one can say, why didn't she act earlier and attack sora directly, it doens't work that way since sora has to make his move first and try for the sky regalia. She becomes the strongest inside the final gram tournament field, any other field, she might get spanked as shown wiht her fight with ikki)You can also look at it from this point, I was watching an episode of scrubs and in the episode, everyone was pissed at the chief for closing down a wing in the hospital, which could of been used to admit more patients, thinking he only did it to save some money. At the end of the episode, the reason he closed down that wing was to offer free vaccinations or pregnancy tests (I forget which one) for the less fortunate. That is why I see her as a great example of what a leader must go through, you must do things against your own personal belief for the sake of many others. She always said that she regrets ever putting on AT and wants to get rid of it. To me, she is now working towards that goal and hopes in some part, that her relationship with ikki is not as damaged in the end. Bah, actually talking about her character, I like her even more now. I hope what I wrote made sense, and at the very least, gives more credit to her character than just a messy inconsistent character.


Nice, well said HappyStealer. And what you wrote made sense to me d(^o^)b **thumbs up**

I was also amazed that I didn't hate Ringo after everything that happened.

And Ikki knows her better too, remember it is in their race when Ikki tells her that she is still the same Ringo he knows.

She surprises me in the previous chapters and that makes me so interested in her character. :ange:

[Katsuomori]

First, sorry for the long post. I think ringo is a great character from the beginning. I definitely like ringo and kururu as my favorite female characters besides rika-nee. My reason for liking ringo is because at first, ringo tried helping out ikki, giving him AT's and showing how it is to fly. She believed in him and to me, I see it as, she went against the wishes of the members of sleeping forest and kilik in order to be with ikki. But to me, I think she realized that living in that moment, all of it is wrong. I personally see two factions when I think about ringo and kururu. Kururu reminds me of the romance side(willing to sacrifice everything for the one person they love) while ringo is the duties side(willing to do whats right to end it all and pray things between you and your lover doesn't change.) Basically, idealist vs. realist. You can view it somewhat like this, if you were a king or queen, would you choose love over abandoning your people and letting them suffer? I can also bring up harry potter (sorry, but i had to) that he chose his duties to fight voldemort over his love for ginny. That to me is the dilenma of her character. (If you had the power to change something, a.k.a. her being the only one who can withstand the pressure of zero gravity, would you do something or stand by and have your fling?) (Also, no one can say, why didn't she act earlier and attack sora directly, it doens't work that way since sora has to make his move first and try for the sky regalia. She becomes the strongest inside the final gram tournament field, any other field, she might get spanked as shown wiht her fight with ikki)You can also look at it from this point, I was watching an episode of scrubs and in the episode, everyone was pissed at the chief for closing down a wing in the hospital, which could of been used to admit more patients, thinking he only did it to save some money. At the end of the episode, the reason he closed down that wing was to offer free vaccinations or pregnancy tests (I forget which one) for the less fortunate. That is why I see her as a great example of what a leader must go through, you must do things against your own personal belief for the sake of many others. She always said that she regrets ever putting on AT and wants to get rid of it. To me, she is now working towards that goal and hopes in some part, that her relationship with ikki is not as damaged in the end. Bah, actually talking about her character, I like her even more now. I hope what I wrote made sense, and at the very least, gives more credit to her character than just a messy inconsistent character.

O.O' Wow... anyway... no comments about that and it's indeed a well said post. Yeah, she's one leader that needed to be followed as an example to... though I do felt pity on her being burdened by it.

[HappyStealer]

yeah to me, ringo is probably the most consistent and progressive character of them all. She has stayed very true to her character and thats how ikki noticed that she never changed during their fight. She's still the same ringo. Ikki however has declined as a character for me because he is still lost in the dark abyss, trying to find out his place in the AT world. Thats why he left the noyamano house. Kururu is also trying to find her place. At their current stage, yeah kururu x ikki makes sense, but in the end, I hope that ikki matures and realizes ringo's feelings for him. Ikki and Kururu are the immature children while ringo has turned into the mature adult. I support both factions tho, I definitely like kururu and ringo but I feel as if I had a choice, I would choose ringo. I do see that in a way, she has "protected" Simca from the further escalation of the conflict. One thing I'd like to see is Ikki/Ringo vs. Sora/Nike. That would be an amazing battle to see.

[chrollo]

First, sorry for the long post. I think ringo is a great character from the beginning. I definitely like ringo and kururu as my favorite female characters besides rika-nee. My reason for liking ringo is because at first, ringo tried helping out ikki, giving him AT's and showing how it is to fly. She believed in him and to me, I see it as, she went against the wishes of the members of sleeping forest and kilik in order to be with ikki. But to me, I think she realized that living in that moment, all of it is wrong. I personally see two factions when I think about ringo and kururu. Kururu reminds me of the romance side(willing to sacrifice everything for the one person they love) while ringo is the duties side(willing to do whats right to end it all and pray things between you and your lover doesn't change.) Basically, idealist vs. realist. You can view it somewhat like this, if you were a king or queen, would you choose love over abandoning your people and letting them suffer? I can also bring up harry potter (sorry, but i had to) that he chose his duties to fight voldemort over his love for ginny. That to me is the dilenma of her character. (If you had the power to change something, a.k.a. her being the only one who can withstand the pressure of zero gravity, would you do something or stand by and have your fling?) (Also, no one can say, why didn't she act earlier and attack sora directly, it doens't work that way since sora has to make his move first and try for the sky regalia. She becomes the strongest inside the final gram tournament field, any other field, she might get spanked as shown wiht her fight with ikki)You can also look at it from this point, I was watching an episode of scrubs and in the episode, everyone was pissed at the chief for closing down a wing in the hospital, which could of been used to admit more patients, thinking he only did it to save some money. At the end of the episode, the reason he closed down that wing was to offer free vaccinations or pregnancy tests (I forget which one) for the less fortunate. That is why I see her as a great example of what a leader must go through, you must do things against your own personal belief for the sake of many others. She always said that she regrets ever putting on AT and wants to get rid of it. To me, she is now working towards that goal and hopes in some part, that her relationship with ikki is not as damaged in the end. Bah, actually talking about her character, I like her even more now. I hope what I wrote made sense, and at the very least, gives more credit to her character than just a messy inconsistent character.
i love scrubs
i also agree with what your saying about ringo although i kinda feel like she would runaway with ikki in a second if he asked her 2
i also think she should ditch the glasses cause she looks much better with out them

[HappyStealer]

i love scrubs
i also agree with what your saying about ringo although i kinda feel like she would runaway with ikki in a second if he asked her 2
i also think she should ditch the glasses cause she looks much better with out them

haha he's too stupid to ask her to run away with him. :-P yeah I think ringo does defintiely look better without the glasses and the beanie she has on looks good

[BlackAlviss]

there are chapters i don't like ringo then there are chapters, where i love her xD
but now i doesn't matter to me because i came to the conclusion that i like every girl in Air Gear
doesn't matter what they do or on which side they are xD
therefore i want to see more ecchi moments with them :D

[chrollo]

there are chapters i don't like ringo then there are chapters, where i love her xD
but now i doesn't matter to me because i came to the conclusion that i like every girl in Air Gear
doesn't matter what they do or on which side they are xD
therefore i want to see more ecchi moments with them :Dlmao your right what's important is the # of ecchi scenes in Air gear

[kbong]

Use to like Ringo but as the story went on, it came to me as a shook the way she turned out to be, cold and calculating, I hope ikki gets together with sumeragi ,anyways it seems they will get to together

[Ffotsirk]

I dunno, I see Ringo as being used by SF moreso than being its leader. Kinda like how Genesis was gonna use Ikki.

One thing I find amazing though is that Kururu was faster to get to Ikki in that area than Ringo was, and Ringo is supposed to be the one who could move easiest there.

[penguinism]

cuz ringo was hesitating cuz she was part of SF but wanted to be by ikki's side, internal dilema prevented her from moving til kururu was already there

[chrollo]

wasn't ringo on the other side of the room and kururu like right next to him

[zxcvbn]

I dunno, I see Ringo as being used by SF moreso than being its leader. Kinda like how Genesis was gonna use Ikki.
Her position is similar to Simca and Genesis. She's the official leader, but she's not the one in control. But she still has knowledge of the team's affairs and has a say in whatever they do. Which is what makes her so difficult to redeem in my eyes: she knew about the doings of Om and Gabishi(killing Ban, tearing off rider's faces for fun, attacking Ikki's friends) but didn't do anything about it. WHY didn't Ikki ever ask her about that?:grrrrrr:

[chrollo]

Her position is similar to Simca and Genesis. She's the official leader, but she's not the one in control. But she still has knowledge of the team's affairs and has a say in whatever they do. Which is what makes her so difficult to redeem in my eyes: she knew about the doings of Om and Gabishi(killing Ban, tearing off rider's faces for fun, attacking Ikki's friends) but didn't do anything about it. WHY didn't Ikki ever ask her about that?:grrrrrr:I'm pretty sure she has no control over sleeping forest she's just the face of sleeping forest and I'm pretty sure gabishi never killed any of his opponents and neither has ringo in fact doesn't Ringo hate using ATs for fighting also I don't think Kilik would approve of killing anyone (other than Sora and Nike) because he really seems to value human life but

I seriously think people should give Ringo's character a break
and think about what her has to go through because basically if her team loses to sora and genesis then sora would supposedly be able to take over the world and since he comes off as a psycho that's a pretty serious dilemma and if you think about it sleeping forest is probably the best at stopping Sora

[zxcvbn]

I'm pretty sure she has no control over sleeping forest she's just the face of sleeping forest and I'm pretty sure gabishi never killed any of his opponents and neither has ringo in fact doesn't Ringo hate using ATs for fighting also I don't think Kilik would approve of killing anyone (other than Sora and Nike) because he really seems to value human life
It's been made pretty clear that Sleeping Forest can be quite ruthless towards those who stand in their way. Killing(Ban of Genesis), crippling(Simca) and disfiguring(Gabishi's victims) are all wrong.

I seriously think people should give Ringo's character a break
and think about what her has to go through because basically if her team loses to sora and genesis then sora would supposedly be able to take over the world and since he comes off as a psycho that's a pretty serious dilemma and if you think about it sleeping forest is probably the best at stopping Sora

Let me quote one of my previous posts on Sleeping Forest.
They're not really villains, but they're not good guys either. Their ideals may seem noble, but they've done too many questionable things to achieve it. Neither black nor white, but shades of gray. The Sora brothers are pure evil though, so if I had to choose I'd support SF instead of Sora. But right now, the only good side is Ikki's.

Frankly, I'm quite sure that Ikki will win the Gram Scale and show both Sora and Sleeping Forest the error of their ways.

[HappyStealer]

Yeah, Ikki will probably show SF and Genesis how its suppose to be done but before Kogoramasu started to train again, do you really believe he was in a position to say something? He hasn't found his place in the AT world, he himself was just a face for everyone else too. He was in no position to say anything to anyone because he did not know the full story. I understand if now, if he tried something, people would listen since he knows whats going on now, but before he was just a brat running around trying to be the wind king. Look at it like this, since he's actually been named the Storm King, now he somewhat has the authority to say something because people now officially recognize him as something. Its all politics. As for ringo, I believe that she chose the best option that was available to her at the time despite knowing some of her team mates can be a tad "rough" Again, this is the dilenma of a leader and she has flat out said that she has never liked it (You may not like it but sometimes you must look the other way despite what you believe.) People had war with other's to take over the country, sometimes the country that was conquered was already in turmoil and people were suffering/dying. The conquered country may/may not profit from being conquered but if they do become better, can you really blame the other country? Yes, they probably killed innocent soldiers who were in it for family and money reasons, but in the end, they might of spared millions of other people. Harsh yes, but its reality. That is why to me, Ringo's character is more realistic in comparison to others. Again, you can hate Ringo, love her, or be ok with her, your opinions are yours and mine is mine. I cannot convince you other wise, I do however believe that her realism is why she is one of my fav's.

[chrollo]

It's been made pretty clear that Sleeping Forest can be quite ruthless towards those who stand in their way. Killing(Ban of Genesis), crippling(Simca) and disfiguring(Gabishi's victims) are all wrong.

ok first of all i dont remember any Ban of genesis being killed and he's not mentioned in the wikipedia article for genesis so you might want to recheck that also the leader of genesis has already killed three of his own people so i kind of understand why they would be dessperate to prevent him from taking over the world

and secondly ringo didnt hurt simica for the hell of it she did it to protect her

and as far as gabashi goes take a look at volume 14 pages 74-75 and then maybe you'll realize there might be more to gabashi than him just tearing off people's faces (which wassn't even life threating and can probably be fixed by a simple skin graph)

[Hyuver]

I'm pretty sure she has no control over sleeping forest she's just the face of sleeping forest and I'm pretty sure gabishi never killed any of his opponents and neither has ringo in fact doesn't Ringo hate using ATs for fighting also I don't think Kilik would approve of killing anyone (other than Sora and Nike) because he really seems to value human life but

I seriously think people should give Ringo's character a break
and think about what her has to go through because basically if her team loses to sora and genesis then sora would supposedly be able to take over the world and since he comes off as a psycho that's a pretty serious dilemma and if you think about it sleeping forest is probably the best at stopping Sora
Gabishi might not kill that guy but Om is already killed Spitfire righthand

[zxcvbn]

Gabishi might not kill that guy but Om is already killed Spitfire righthand
Exactly. That's who I was referring to.
And zetsuie, you refer to a face being torn off as such a simple thing. Would you like it to happen to you? A simple skin graft won't fix a disfigurement like that. Usually the person has to live with it for life.
With the latest technology one can get a face transplant but there's a 50% chance of the new face getting rejected. Even otherwise, the victim will need to take immuno-suppressant drugs for life which weaken the immune system.
The worst thing is that Gabishi does it for personal pleasure, or no reason at all(Kazu).How about doing it to himself it he thinks it's so nice?

[midorika]

I don't understand why Oh!G would design such a character with a cruel "habit" ... Peeling people's skin off their face... hmm... eew... But I don't think this has anything to do with sleeping forest.. It's just gabishi and his pleasure to do so..

[chrollo]

Gabishi might not kill that guy but Om is already killed Spitfire righthandum didn't Om warn him not to move I mean it's his own fault he didn't listen to her really it seems to me like she had no real intention of killing him otherwise she wouldn't have warned him

[Vicious]

Oh!Great has a tendency to create characters with disgusting habits like Gabishi's, from what I've read in his other works.

For example, in Majin Devil, there's a doctor character who severs girls' heads and spinal cords from their bodies and performs a surgery to allow them to extend and detract at will.
Not for the faint-hearted =P

anyways, about Ringo:
I think she deserves a second chance.
She doesn't seem like the cold-hearted bish type of character who's life is to lead Sleeping Forest.
Like others have mentioned, she's clearly not the one in 100% control and therefore isn't responsible for all that SF has done.

She and Ikki just about made up after their fight, because in general, you don't kiss someone you just fought with unless you reconciled properly.
Ringo is a good person, which is why I like her.

[Psicosis]

I hate Ringo! -.-

[username32]

I love Ringo!! I don't think she deserves all her anti-fans at all. Ikki and the Sleeping Forest are important to her, it's not like she could totally abondon the Sleeping Forest for Ikki or vice versa. I think that in the end Ringo and Ikki are gonna end up together.

And don't be saying that Ikki thinks of her more like a sister, he had no problem groping her in the beginning chapters of the manga ;P

[midorika]

I love Ringo!! I don't think she deserves all her anti-fans at all. Ikki and the Sleeping Forest are important to her, it's not like she could totally abondon the Sleeping Forest for Ikki or vice versa. I think that in the end Ringo and Ikki are gonna end up together.

And don't be saying that Ikki thinks of her more like a sister, he had no problem groping her in the beginning chapters of the manga ;P

YES!!!
Lolz~~~
She did changed into the what --> Croissant Mask to help them out in the beginning, risking to break the trophaeum's rule~~
She did sacrificed a bit there, isn't it?? LOLZ....

[HappyStealer]

i believe her sacrifices are much greater than any other girl so far for ikki. I really feel bad for her especially knowing that kururu is ikki's tuner, she always has to watch from a distance. T_T I really do believe in some part that some of the anti-ringo's don't completely understand her character and only notice the faults in her. But personally, I think kururu is no better than her, she's trying to help ikki through, whats the word, err, "tricky, sneaky" routes I guess. Just kururu's position is that she has a neutral team while ringo's team has chosen a side.

[zxcvbn]

I love Ringo!! I don't think she deserves all her anti-fans at all. Ikki and the Sleeping Forest are important to her, it's not like she could totally abondon the Sleeping Forest for Ikki or vice versa.
She already as good as abandoned him in the Trophaeum when she treated him like an enemy and refused to comfort him.
And don't be saying that Ikki thinks of her more like a sister, he had no problem groping her in the beginning chapters of the manga ;
Ikki's also peeked on/tried to grope Rika and Mikan in the same vein, and I'm sure he only thinks of them as sisters/friends. He's just extremely perverted.^^

[pipoy22]

I don't like Ringo, even though the manga tries to make her a sympathetic character. Yes, she's good natured, kind and likes Ikki, but a few good points won't make up for all the bad things she's done or been involved in.

As leader of Sleeping Forest and its 'Crazy Apple', she's been involved in the death/maiming of many Stormriders, their only crime(in most cases) that they tried to reach the Trophaeum.

-She didn't restrain Om and Gabish when they went around killing and maiming enemy Stormriders. She didn't intervene even when they attacked Ikki's team fully intending to kill/cripple them(why didn't Ikki mention that during their confrontation).

-She personally attacked a defenceless Simca and rendered her unable to ride ATs ever again.

-She refused to comfort Ikki in his despair after Sora's betrayal, sticking to her team instead, even though she knew that their ideals were questionable.

And don't give me that stuff about Kilik being the real leader of Sleeping Forest. Ringo's the official leader and I'm sure she has a big say in their affairs(I doubt she didn't know about Om and Gabishi attacking Ikki's team).

In the end, the bad outweighs the good in her.

LOL i think you're being too serious about this..
personally i like Ringo not because of what's stated above.. I like her because of her character in the manga.. i like how she got developed from start till now..

[rasenshuriken]

She already as good as abandoned him in the Trophaeum when she treated him like an enemy and refused to comfort him.

Ikki's also peeked on/tried to grope Rika and Mikan in the same vein, and I'm sure he only thinks of them as sisters/friends. He's just extremely perverted.^^

yep i agree with you
and no offense to those Ringo supporters but i don't really like
her that much just for some reason i can't think of.

[pipoy22]

yep i agree with you
and no offense to those Ringo supporters but i don't really like
her that much just for some reason i can't think of.
yeah its more of like a personal preference. i personally dont like Kururu because she's ruining the story and currently she's kind of weak..
well that's my opinion anyways..

[yankumi018]

yeah...you're right.......hating someone also involves personal preferences....
I hate kururu sumeragi because she acts all responsible....when in fact she's not....
She also pity herself...self-pity girls are what I hate the most......
If we can all understand everyone's situation, I think Ringo's in the most complicated situation compared to others....
Love...Betrayal...Friendship...Sorrow...
It's good she is still sane........Ringo I mean...
:pglomp:

[HappyStealer]

zxcvbn, do you really think simca was all that innocent and defenseless? She was using Ikki for her own benefit and she knew what she was getting into, they all did. That is why she is one of the leaders of genesis. Her, spitfire, sora, all of them had the intention of creating genesis to only gain the sky regalia for their cause, they were willing to sacrifice people just to climb trophaeum. They are no better than the very people they claim to be evil. The only reason spitfire and simca started to change was when they saw how ikki was and they "remembered" what it meant to fly but by the time they realized that, it was too late, they were already caught in sora's web and SF was retiliating. Even when spitfire died, he said he chose the wrong side. He regretted it and in the end, sacrificed himself. Which side do you really think he meant that is opposite of genesis? Even now, Nue and Yoshitsune, they still choose where they can benefit from even if it means being with sora, the guy who "killed" one of their comrades, even though they want to be allies with ikki,. And you say that Ringo refused to comfort ikki? She wanted to but she couldn't. She has her duties, its easy for kururu because she doesnt bear the load of the world from destruction on her shoulders. And how would you react when you see some other person hugging on the person you care about? You'd be stunned too and disappointed.

[midorika]

yeah...you're right.......hating someone also involves personal preferences....
I hate kururu sumeragi because she acts all responsible....when in fact she's not....
She also pity herself...self-pity girls are what I hate the most......
If we can all understand everyone's situation, I think Ringo's in the most complicated situation compared to others....
Love...Betrayal...Friendship...Sorrow...
It's good she is still sane........Ringo I mean...
:pglomp:

Right ~! She's in the most complicated situation right now..
And Kururu is like all carefree~~.. =.=

And bingo~~
It's not that ringo refused to comfort ikki...
It's because she couldn't and especially in front of all her team mates...
She would be breaking the rules if she did go to ikki and hug him..
She was also rather troubled when kururu was the one to hug ikki then...
I'm sure ringo realized... but there's nothing that she can do about it..
ringo has always been watching over ikki... In the beginning, she was close to him... later helped him from afar... and due to recent events - she can only assist him from a distance...
Can you see how she's like soooooo serious about ikki???????

Kururu is just the new girl in the neighbourhood.... so nooo.... ikki is so not loyal... LOLZ XDD
And man, if ringo is not that important, then why showed her childhood times with ikki and increased my attachment to her character.....~!!????
O!G is so mean. >.<

[HappyStealer]

Right ~! She's in the most complicated situation right now..
And Kururu is like all carefree~~.. =.=

And bingo~~
It's not that ringo refused to comfort ikki...
It's because she couldn't and especially in front of all her team mates...
She would be breaking the rules if she did go to ikki and hug him..
She was also rather troubled when kururu was the one to hug ikki then...
I'm sure ringo realized... but there's nothing that she can do about it..
ringo has always been watching over ikki... In the beginning, she was close to him... later helped him from afar... and due to recent events - she can only assist him from a distance...
Can you see how she's like soooooo serious about ikki???????

Kururu is just the new girl in the neighbourhood.... so nooo.... ikki is so not loyal... LOLZ XDD
And man, if ringo is not that important, then why showed her childhood times with ikki and increased my attachment to her character.....~!!????
O!G is so mean. >.<

Plus, she has to keep up with her appearance since she is erm, the leader of SF or her members would lose faith and respect for her then who knows what gabishi would be doing. Killing spree, perhaps? I personally believe she keeps him in check or he'd be a loose canon. If she let her emotions overcome her duties, everyone would take her lightly and wouldn't even listen to her. Then what, have Kilik run SF. He probably would let his members do whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with his plans. She can't show her emotions in front of others, even ikki tries very hard to hide his emotions, I.E., him pouring water over his face when he saw kururu working with the white wolf clan. But he's still very young anyways and is a wuss at times so he lets his emotions get the better of him. Its all about politics in the world of A-T. I highly doubt any other female characters would be able to deal with it like Ringo has. And erm, most of the kogaramasu members still want ringo back, meaning, even after all they have learned and been through with SF, they still think of her and miss her. That shows that she isn't the type of evil person that she is personified by. At times, I think that the members of koga want to "save" ringo from her dilenma too.

[chrollo]

Plus, she has to keep up with her appearance since she is erm, the leader of SF or her members would lose faith and respect for her then who knows what gabishi would be doing. Killing spree, perhaps? I personally believe she keeps him in check or he'd be a loose canon. If she let her emotions overcome her duties, everyone would take her lightly and wouldn't even listen to her. Then what, have Kilik run SF. He probably would let his members do whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with his plans. She can't show her emotions in front of others, even ikki tries very hard to hide his emotions. I.E., him pouring water over his face when he saw kururu working with the white wolf clan. Its all about politics in the world of A-T.you forgot shes really really cute

[HappyStealer]

you forgot shes really really cute
LOL, including that ^^

Here is some pages out of the manga to show you why ringo does what she does.
How she hates AT and battles (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_055.png)
Why she fears Ikki getting into AT without a reason and why she tries to protect him (The reaper is something she's been dealing with a long time and at the end of the battle, the reaper is given to Ikki) (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_119.png)
Her wanting to end her job as SF leader (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_124-125.png)
Ikki finally realizing that Ringo has been alone from the start, putting the burden on her shoulders (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_166.png)
Ikki realizing she was "kind" to simca (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_167.png)
Her protecting Simca wihtout Ikki even realizing it (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_138.png)
And this one shows even after all of that, she still cares so much about him to first use the thorn road to damage her own body to make a point but at the same time, still protect Ikki from major injuries (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_082.png)

[silverstar11]

LOL, including that ^^

Here is some pages out of the manga to show you why ringo does what she does.
How she hates AT and battles (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_055.png)
Why she fears Ikki getting into AT without a reason and why she tries to protect him (The reaper is something she's been dealing with a long time and at the end of the battle, the reaper is given to Ikki) (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_119.png)
Her wanting to end her job as SF leader (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_124-125.png)
Ikki finally realizing that Ringo has been alone from the start, putting the burden on her shoulders (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_166.png)
Ikki realizing she was "kind" to simca (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_167.png)
Her protecting Simca wihtout Ikki even realizing it (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_138.png)
And this one shows even after all of that, she still cares so much about him to first use the thorn road to damage her own body to make a point but at the same time, still protect Ikki from major injuries (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_082.png)

Thanks for the links, I appreciate this ^^
I'm really happy that there are some who actually understand Ringo as a person. What she does, whatever her decisions are..its all in reality..

[pipoy22]

LOL, including that ^^

Here is some pages out of the manga to show you why ringo does what she does.
How she hates AT and battles (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_055.png)
Why she fears Ikki getting into AT without a reason and why she tries to protect him (The reaper is something she's been dealing with a long time and at the end of the battle, the reaper is given to Ikki) (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_119.png)
Her wanting to end her job as SF leader (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_124-125.png)
Ikki finally realizing that Ringo has been alone from the start, putting the burden on her shoulders (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_166.png)
Ikki realizing she was "kind" to simca (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_167.png)
Her protecting Simca wihtout Ikki even realizing it (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_138.png)
And this one shows even after all of that, she still cares so much about him to first use the thorn road to damage her own body to make a point but at the same time, still protect Ikki from major
injuries (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_082.png)

wow nice links truly shows Ringo's role in the story/Ikki's life
I liked Ringo from the start till now and now i like her more!!
unfortunately I'm still an EMILY FAN!!

[midorika]

LOL, including that ^^

Here is some pages out of the manga to show you why ringo does what she does.
How she hates AT and battles (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_055.png)
Why she fears Ikki getting into AT without a reason and why she tries to protect him (The reaper is something she's been dealing with a long time and at the end of the battle, the reaper is given to Ikki) (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_119.png)
Her wanting to end her job as SF leader (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_124-125.png)
Ikki finally realizing that Ringo has been alone from the start, putting the burden on her shoulders (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_166.png)
Ikki realizing she was "kind" to simca (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_167.png)
Her protecting Simca wihtout Ikki even realizing it (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_138.png)
And this one shows even after all of that, she still cares so much about him to first use the thorn road to damage her own body to make a point but at the same time, still protect Ikki from major injuries (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_16_082.png)

Nice links happystealer~~!!
Thanx a lot!!
Me loves RINGO and ONLY RINGO ^^

[chrollo]

good share except i dont need them to make me sympathize with her cause i can already recall why she's awesome i forgot my point but ringo is so the best female character next to mikan

[Teachan]

It amuses me to see some ridiculous excuses for portraiting Ringo as a 'bad' one, like, 'she's the leader of the Sleeping Forest, so she's bad', 'she hurt Simca' and stuff.

:lol: Very :lol:

It doesn't take a genius to realised that Ringo is an angel in character. She protected Simca from the war, by making her unable to walk, so she can be protected from the war that was coming! And it's easy to put two and two together when she says that she 'hates being 'Crazy Apple'. The ones giving such excuses are the ones who are bored to think a bit more about one character and see only the surface.

Ringo is a round character, she's dynamic, tortured and has a good plotline throughout the story. From the delicate place she's from, she helped everyone: Ikki, Simca, Kogarasumaru in general and who knows how many others. Remember, 'Sleeping Forest' has the role to check who is using AT badly, like the Scull guys in the beginning of the manga.

Simca is on the traitors' side with Sora and his twin. She led Spirit Fire and Iron Clock to their deaths, she wanted to control Kogarasumaru for the sake of Genesis, she was the type of a girl who would lure men with her body, rather than with her character.

If anything? Ringo is the perfect woman.

[chrollo]

It amuses me to see some ridiculous excuses for portraiting Ringo as a 'bad' one, like, 'she's the leader of the Sleeping Forest, so she's bad', 'she hurt Simca' and stuff.

:lol: Very :lol:

It doesn't take a genius to realised that Ringo is an angel in character. She protected Simca from the war, by making her unable to walk, so she can be protected from the war that was coming! And it's easy to put two and two together when she says that she 'hates being 'Crazy Apple'. The ones giving such excuses are the ones who are bored to think a bit more about one character and see only the surface.

Ringo is a round character, she's dynamic, tortured and has a good plotline throughout the story. From the delicate place she's from, she helped everyone: Ikki, Simca, Kogarasumaru in general and who knows how many others. Remember, 'Sleeping Forest' has the role to check who is using AT badly, like the Scull guys in the beginning of the manga.

Simca is on the traitors' side with Sora and his twin. She led Spirit Fire and Iron Clock to their deaths, she wanted to control Kogarasumaru for the sake of Genesis, she was the type of a girl who would lure men with her body, rather than with her character.

If anything? Ringo is the perfect woman.
thats what i've been saying but one guy just keeps saying the same thing about ringo killing people which never happened even though i keep pointing out why hes wrong to come to that conclusion but seriously she and Ikki had better end up together or i'll be pissed

[lockedc77]

Well, I do.
Ringo's always been my favorite.

[pipoy22]

thats what i've been saying but one guy just keeps saying the same thing about ringo killing people which never happened even though i keep pointing out why hes wrong to come to that conclusion but seriously she and Ikki had better end up together or i'll be pissed



LOL at that "one guy"!

[HappyStealer]

Oh yeah, this is main reason as to why Ringo is the leader of SF. So she probably doesn't have full control of the actions of the members of SF and it seems that Kilik would be the one pulling the strings especially knowing his connections to Om and Gabishi.
Well, first off some little information regarding her, plus she looks cute floating in mid-air (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_142.png)
And, dum dum dum, why she has the name of leader of SF (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_143.png)
And giving Kilik some credit for doing what he must to protect the sky regalia (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_163.png)

[silverstar11]

Oh yeah, this is main reason as to why Ringo is the leader of SF. So she probably doesn't have full control of the actions of the members of SF and it seems that Kilik would be the one pulling the strings especially knowing his connections to Om and Gabishi.
Well, first off some little information regarding her, plus she looks cute floating in mid-air (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_142.png)
And, dum dum dum, why she has the name of leader of SF (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_143.png)
And giving Kilik some credit for doing what he must to protect the sky regalia (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/HappyStealer/Air%20Gear/AIR_GEAR_17_163.png)

In the second image, she reminds me of Erzah from FT. Nice armor!

[HappyStealer]

In the second image, she reminds me of Erzah from FT. Nice armor!

^^;; what is FT?

[silverstar11]

^^;; what is FT?

It's Fairy Tail (another manga). I also like it, the characters are cool and funny :yes:

[chrollo]

made an FT thread
dont say she reminds you of erza
erza's way to manly to be compared to ringo

[silverstar11]

made an FT thread
dont say she reminds you of erza
erza's way to manly to be compared to ringo

I mean the armor Ringo's wearing is kinda similar to Erza's ;p
Of course Ringo is way too cuter :wink2:.

[chrollo]

I mean the armor Ringo's wearing is kinda similar to Erza's ;p
Of course Ringo is way too cuter :wink2:.
damn right

[kilgore12]

The thing I don't get is why everyone is acting like Ringo is so noble. She has lied/omitted facts to/from Ikki the same if not more often than everyone else. Regardless of her reasons she let him get into plenty of situations that lead to him being betrayed that she could have prevented without really breaking the rules, well no worse than the goofy alter-ego she used. She had quite a few chances with him that she blew for SP over him. Of course this could all just be from Oh! great dropping the ball relating to her character, but at the same time he seems to have shown her to have a brutal streak.

[HappyStealer]

The thing I don't get is why everyone is acting like Ringo is so noble. She has lied/omitted facts to/from Ikki the same if not more often than everyone else. Regardless of her reasons she let him get into plenty of situations that lead to him being betrayed that she could have prevented without really breaking the rules, well no worse than the goofy alter-ego she used. She had quite a few chances with him that she blew for SP over him. Of course this could all just be from Oh! great dropping the ball relating to her character, but at the same time he seems to have shown her to have a brutal streak.

He's not dropping the ball, Oh! Great likes creating a love triangle, if he truely wanted to drop the ball on her character, SF would be the most evil riders out there not team sora. If you still don't under her character by now, then I don't know what else to say.

[silverstar11]

It's hard to be in Ringo's place yet she's able to stand there. I think Ringo didn't tell Ikki the whole truth before because it's too early for him to understand. He's not even sure what he wants til now. She helped him in the beginning while she's aware of the consequences. Because she knows Ikki's potential and she believed in him. However as a leader she need to stick by the SF laws, she needs to hold back a bit. I don't think another betrayal in the SF will bring any good either. I understand their principles and I agree with HappyStealer, they are not the most evil right now.
And Kilik, he's not that selfish (i think) ^^

[pipoy22]

The thing I don't get is why everyone is acting like Ringo is so noble. She has lied/omitted facts to/from Ikki the same if not more often than everyone else. Regardless of her reasons she let him get into plenty of situations that lead to him being betrayed that she could have prevented without really breaking the rules, well no worse than the goofy alter-ego she used. She had quite a few chances with him that she blew for SP over him. Of course this could all just be from Oh! great dropping the ball relating to her character, but at the same time he seems to have shown her to have a brutal streak.


yeah each person has their own perspective on Ringo.
And Ringo is not noble she's a martyr she would suffer rather than anyone else.
As far i'm concerned O!G has a knack on character development. You may hate Ringo right now next thing you know you'd love her. That's how O!G does things.

[chrollo]

yeah each person has their own perspective on Ringo.
And Ringo is not noble she's a martyr she would suffer rather than anyone else.
As far i'm concerned O!G has a knack on character development. You may hate Ringo right now next thing you know you'd love her. That's how O!G does things.
yeah but i hope it doesnt get to sad like tenjho tenge

[HappyStealer]

yeah but i hope it doesnt get to sad like tenjho tenge

Hopefully not but it definitely makes the story better. I do miss ringo however. Too much focus on kururu is great and everything but meh, I guess I am just use to ringo.

[twister123]

but i'm guessing since ringo is starting to distance herself from ikki, his feelings might fall to kururu

[Blite]

but i'm guessing since ringo is starting to distance herself from ikki, his feelings might fall to kururu

Ikki already likes Kururu, its more of the fact of who he likes more.

[midorika]

Nooooo... why must ikki falls for Kururu???
It's not like i bear any grudge for kururu, but she's getting waay cooler right now... and ringo seemed nasty... Lolz...
Oh well.. all up to the author... ^^

[Hyuver]

Nooooo... why must ikki falls for Kururu???
It's not like i bear any grudge for kururu, but she's getting waay cooler right now... and ringo seemed nasty... Lolz...
Oh well.. all up to the author... ^^

Now that you mention it I just remember Ringo picture in the character introduction page in vol 18 looks more devilish now :p

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4582/img007zt4.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img007zt4.jpg)

I don't know why but for sport themed manga it looks like some of the author like to pair the main character with the new character that introduced at the mid of series like Eyeshield 21 and Harlem Beat(a basket ball manga by Yuriko Nishiyama who created dragon voice)

[chrollo]

maybe ringo just looks more evil with out glasses unless shes wearing a kimono
idk

[midorika]

Lolz
Ringo in kimono outfit pawns.
I love her in that.
But that's a rare one.. >.<

Thanx for sharing that page, Hyuver.
hmmm... I don't think Ringo looked evil there.
More like naughty. xDD

And hmmm... after so looooong...
The hako thingy and all...
WE are only threated to ONE appearance of Ringo.... >.<

And man.
Ringo fans.
Ringo is already dead at the forum game.
In the thread called hurt/heal a character...
>.<
I was the ONLY ONE (almost... but really most of the time...) to heal her there...
Now... there's a team kururu up there.. already killed off Nike and Ikki too...
Now, their target is Spitfire... >_>

[T.Y.]

I really sympathize Ringo because she gave ikki A-T so he can feel the joy of riding and take revenge but by doing that she had intoduced him to the world of A-T which lead to him meeting Sora, Genesis, etc. creating a bigger gap between her and Ikki. I hope that after the Tourney, the tow of them can get together

[Leave]

Ringo bores me. I hate the quiet, too shy to say how she feels character (like Tojo in Ichigo 100%...BLEH). Plus, she went from being spunky to being super dedicated. She spends more time pleading with Ichigo than actually doing things. Maybe she'll get better as the series goes on, but right now, it's all Kururu.

[midorika]

LolZ
See.
I sorta revived this thread.
LOLZ.
Hmm...
sympatize with her?
Maybe not.
She's as cool as she is. That Ringo.
Totally wonderful and my type.
Though i had to admit again..
Kururu is a good opponent.
xD

AND.
BUT.
STILL.
I want Ikki and Ringo to be together anyhow...
>.<

[siddha]

Ringo is the stereotypical female redhead character in a shonen manga:

- Likes the protagonist
- CHILDHOOD FRIENDS with protagonist
- CAN NEVER EVER EVER EVER admit her feelings
- ALWAYS jealous of the hotter girl who hits on the protagonist
- LOVES punching the protagonist

...I DON'T LIKE HER!!!

[tersalius]

Ringo is the stereotypical female redhead character in a shonen manga:

- Likes the protagonist
- CHILDHOOD FRIENDS with protagonist
- CAN NEVER EVER EVER EVER admit her feelings
- ALWAYS jealous of the hotter girl who hits on the protagonist
- LOVES punching the protagonist

...I DON'T LIKE HER!!!

yeah to much "STEREOTYPICALl" she is.
like you said:
she CAN NEVER EVER EVER EVER admit her feelings!!!
and the kiss scene was exactly that, a way for her to show that she, here i go again, CAN NEVER EVER EVER EVER admit her feelings, right?:)
and just to show how STEREOTYPICALl she is, she loves to punch the protagonist, so how many times did she actually punched him? (not including the funny parts)
and yeah people im back in the forums
pretty good chapter the last one seems like the tournament will begin soon.

[Paper_Bird]

I do love her

[silverstar11]

I like Ringo the best..And,
I can't wait to see Ringo in the tournamet and cheer for her!!!
:yipi:

[midorika]

TOURNAMENT?

MAN. I want Ringo right now.
Even a glimpse will do wonders for me.
ROFL.
I'm always exaggerating. n_n

[blodz]

ringo is nice and alll but I don't see her as a good couple with ikki and she also kind of annoys me sometimes when she gets all "crazy apple" mode I mean does anyone know how a crazy apple acts and other thing what's a tuner do if she has a tuner wich I believe is kanon does that mean that she is not pure anymore and could someone explain what that is I mean I remember one chapter where kanon told ikki that he knew every inch of ringos body so does that mean he seen her naked or that they had a relationship together.

[kai1068]

i think ringo is pretty cute and kinda shy which is just hot to me. She is a pretty cool character but her sister rika is a better char than ringo but ringo is cuter to me.

[Unholy]

ringo is nice and alll but I don't see her as a good couple with ikki and she also kind of annoys me sometimes when she gets all "crazy apple" mode I mean does anyone know how a crazy apple acts and other thing what's a tuner do if she has a tuner wich I believe is kanon does that mean that she is not pure anymore and could someone explain what that is I mean I remember one chapter where kanon told ikki that he knew every inch of ringos body so does that mean he seen her naked or that they had a relationship together.

Both has to be naked to tune so kanon have seen ringo body thats what he means.We all know he loves ringo but we saw that ringo dosent have the same fellings for him.Anyway i used to like Ringo but when Kilik told ikki about Sora and she didnt even tried to hug/confort him it pissed me off.Kilik said himself that he wasent interest in ikki anymore so huging him wasent agains the damn rules that kind of behavior makes me want ikki to end with kururu.Still ringo is a great character hope to see more of her.

[midorika]

YESH. I was pissed off too, unholy.
But hmph. Yesh, I still wanna see more of her whatever it is.
She is after all, an amazing character.
If not, of all...?
^^

[Fran]

I've been think about the hole thing at the bottom of tower, the killik revelations...

Ringo's actions wasnt that bad, she thinks that's the better for Ikki in that moment, the fight also was her way to tell him things impossible to say with words... remember that she insists that Ikki's still a rookie and he needs lots and lots of work to be a stormrider and also its the hole thing about "fly"... to Ringo: "higher the fly, harder the fall", so she tried to avoid Ikki's flight for his sake.

Her intentions arent bad at all...

But, Kururu is there and she thinks and acts in other way.

They are like two different kind of mother and Ringo is the Overprotective one

[zxcvbn]

If that's the case then Ringo's(along with whole of SF) way of thinking is seriously warped.
How can she protect people by killing and crippling them? And who is she to set rules to limit others' freedom, making exceptions only for herself and her teammates?(Talking about the philosophy of SF). And during that battle Ringo was conflicted. She realised that she hated being Crazy Apple and that SF's goals were pretty shady. In the end she admitted defeat to Ikki. And she still returned to SF's side later.

[zxcvbn]

I'll give Ringo credit for this: she still hasn't fully gone to the dark side; she's been conflicted between her feelings for Ikki and her loyalty to SF all this time. That's why she rescued Kururu even though it'd make sense not to interfere as Kururu is Ikki's tuner and Ikki is SF's enemy. She'll truly redeem herself if she summons the guts to do the right thing and leave SF in the future.

[rh1ngo06]

lol yeah i agree with you

[Ray]

I don't dislike her, but she's not my favourite either.

[Raenef]

lol @ SF = Bad / Dark Side. just lol..
note: SF haven't killed anyone :]...
i wonder who did. :sarcastic:

[Teachan]

lol @ SF = Bad / Dark Side. just lol..
note: SF haven't killed anyone :]...
i wonder who did

Totally agree.


How can she protect people by killing

First off, quit lying. SF never killed anyone. Go and re-read the manga.

and crippling them?

What a childish notion. Imagine Simca taking part in this war. She ends up dead. Gravity Child or not, Simca has never shown any talent in A-T in battles, only in acrobatics. Ringo's damage can be undone in half a year and Simca can continue A-T, safe from this war. She saved her.

If your immature brain cannot understand this, stop blabbering. Because what you say is not an opinion, is very simply a lie. You twist the facts so they can fit in your interpretation.


And who is she to set rules to limit others' freedom

That's not her rule, that's Kilik's. Pratically, Ringo is a weapon, not the mind behind all this. A weapon that hates its existence. Yet, she continues to protect everyone.

Plus, everyone needs rules and restrains in order to work properly. Otherwise, chaos would occure. Imagine A-T to be used freely for any reason. Kilik saw the monstrosity over this. And he went to the extreme, which is equally bad. However, his logic is reasonable if somethine thinks that if there weren't A-T (Regalia, mostly) in the beginning, all these deaths he had read wouldn't take place. This huge power Regalia have, better destroy it; the world is not ready for this.

Rules are needed and someone needs to put them. Human society works with laws and rules. If you hate the restraints other people have put on you, in order to built a society that would work in SOME way, go and become an anchorite.

[Hyuver]

About that killing thing, actually at that indeed Om has killed Kokuen, it's mentioned during the second fight between Kogarasumaru and Animal house, Ine said to Spitfire that he must be busy looking for a new right hand man after Kokuen dead, at that time all of assume that Kokuen is already dead but looks like our master of trickery oh!great forgot that he already killed him then bringing him back without further explanation about what Om really did to him, this is the mangaka error

Edit : Ah here it is the page that really misleading http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/126/04/

and about that Simca crippling incident if I'm not mistaken wasn't someone already told Ikki that she can't continue AT anymore with that injury
Edit : another one
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/120/18/

[Teachan]

Ringo herself said that she'll be unable to walk for half a year. After that she will again. Ine wasn't wrong or anyhting, she simply saw the current situation. Now, Simca IS crippled. Later, according to Ringo, she won't be. She knows the damage she caused, Simca will walk again.

[Hyuver]

Dancing in the sky mean riding AT, she might not be able to ride AT anymore due to the injury unless O!G make some bs story about how she will be able to ride AT again

Still I don't think Sleeping Forest is any better than Genes1s it's true that their intention might be better than them but what they did is particularly the same forcing their own opinion by using brute force.

Imagine if someone close by your get his face ripped off like what Gabishi did to Crazy Kaji what do you feel? Do you think their reason like to maintain AT world stable blablabla will good enough to hold your grudge again them? That crazy kaji probably couldn't even be a threat for them

Basically what they did is the same as terrorist, making use of lame excuse to justify their action

[Fran]

In a war there arent good o bad people, both are enemies of each other.

Their actions are totally logical, that's why killik reveals to Ikki the true intentions of Sora, that's why neither Rika nor Ringo wants Ikki involved in AT World... no one can blame it for do what they think is the right choice.

I totally agree with Hyuver, both sides wants to win.

And there's Ikki with his own path and POV, he is the menace to both teams, they know Koga can beat them... Ringo knew from the very beginning that they will be enemies eventually. This is like to have friends from different planets, Ringo is a Gravity Child like Killik, Sora, etc, she "belongs" to SF, Mikan told Ringo clearly...

At the bottom of the tower was clear the different sides, Ikki was devastated, Ringo and her sisters really wants to confort him, but they didnt because they are SF, Kururu cries with Ikki and Agito was with them too...

But, i like Ringo, she isnt my favorite, but is an atractive character.

^^

[Raenef]

Dancing in the sky mean riding AT, she might not be able to ride AT anymore due to the injury unless O!G make some bs story about how she will be able to ride AT again

Still I don't think Sleeping Forest is any better than Genes1s it's true that their intention might be better than them but what they did is particularly the same forcing their own opinion by using brute force.

Imagine if someone close by your get his face ripped off like what Gabishi did to Crazy Kaji what do you feel? Do you think their reason like to maintain AT world stable blablabla will good enough to hold your grudge again them? That crazy kaji probably couldn't even be a threat for them

Basically what they did is the same as terrorist, making use of lame excuse to justify their action

That's Gabishi's personal habit, as mentioned, got nothing to do with the team.

Lol, Om explained that, "they did is the same as terrorist" was all they could do due to Nike being deemed unbeatable by any current SF members.

SF avoids casualty at all cost[read what kilik did and said]. Genesis kills for kicks. i smell difference...don't u?

[Hyuver]

LoL
So if Sleeping forest avoid causality but the member did it for fun it's acceptable?

About that Gabishi looking from that Nue flashback it looks like it's just a normal fight at the bar not really serious fight, yet he go that far, and for Kokuen what he did actually is just guarding Kogarasumaru, Om still can enter the animal house with or without him guarding Kogarasumaru yet she almost beat him to death for unknown reason

Oh well anyway don't longer this discussion about whether sleeping forest anymore it looks like us make the others don't know what to post in this thread anymore :p and people view from different perception about a matter, it's no use try to convince other cause people "DO' only believe on what they want to believe

[Raenef]

lol. and who actually died?. :sarcastic:

[blodz]

[QUOTE=Fran;24291]I've been think about the hole thing at the bottom of tower, the killik revelations...

Ringo's actions wasnt that bad, she thinks that's the better for Ikki in that moment, the fight also was her way to tell him things impossible to say with words... remember that she insists that Ikki's still a rookie and he needs lots and lots of work to be a stormrider and also its the hole thing about "fly"... to Ringo: "higher the fly, harder the fall", so she tried to avoid Ikki's flight for his sake.

Her intentions arent bad at all...

But, Kururu is there and she thinks and acts in other way.

They are like two different kind of mother and Ringo is the Overprotective one

I agree with you except that I believe ringo and her sisters sort of tried to keep ikki in a cage I mean if he hadn't found out about the sleeping forest nobody would have told him and also I think ikki is not a rookie I mean whe he fought ringo he probably would have wan if it wasn't for the fact that the ATs he was wearing couldn't handle the power

[blodz]

Both has to be naked to tune so kanon have seen ringo body thats what he means.We all know he loves ringo but we saw that ringo dosent have the same fellings for him.Anyway i used to like Ringo but when Kilik told ikki about Sora and she didnt even tried to hug/confort him it pissed me off.Kilik said himself that he wasent interest in ikki anymore so huging him wasent agains the damn rules that kind of behavior makes me want ikki to end with kururu.Still ringo is a great character hope to see more of her.

wow thanks it wasn't that clear to me I got to go back to that chapter, and yea it pissed me off too I mean I know she's got the trophaeum rules and all but that kind of showed that she cares more about the trophaeum rules than her love for ikki. So I hope ikki ends up with simca or kururu preferable simca, and I believe ikki is finally going to tune with kururu or am I wrong since she agreed to make the Storm regalia or at least that what I understood from ch183

[Hyuver]

lol. and who actually died?. :sarcastic:

I said "almost" not dead, read carefully :spin:

[rh1ngo06]

lol....

[zxcvbn]

That's Gabishi's personal habit, as mentioned, got nothing to do with the team.

Well, can't SF discipline him and make him stop that habit? They're supposed to stop Regalia from being abused, but Gabishi using his regalia to tear off faces for personal amusement is a blatant abuse. And since Gabishi's so dreadfully afraid of Kilik(when Genesis sent him back he said that it would be worse than being tortured by them), it's shouldn't be difficult to make him stop.


Lol, Om explained that, "they did is the same as terrorist" was all they could do due to Nike being deemed unbeatable by any current SF members.


By the way, wasn't Om trying to kill all of Kogarasamaru during their match with Animal House?

I said before that Sleeping Forest aren't evil but they're not good people either. They're doing the wrong things for the right(according to them) reason

[Raenef]

Well, can't SF discipline him and make him stop that habit? They're supposed to stop Regalia from being abused, but Gabishi using his regalia to tear off faces for personal amusement is a blatant abuse. And since Gabishi's so dreadfully afraid of Kilik(when Genesis sent him back he said that it would be worse than being tortured by them), it's shouldn't be difficult to make him stop.

By the way, wasn't Om trying to kill all of Kogarasamaru during their match with Animal House?

I said before that Sleeping Forest aren't evil but they're not good people either. They're doing the wrong things for the right(according to them) reason


lol, no. First, SF's motive in trying to destroy Koga comes from the fact that Genesis [their arch enemy] laid their allegiance to Ikki and Koga + soon-to-be Wind King is with Genesis. Obviously 1 more king in Genesis means immense threat to SF and potential for Genesis to overwhelm SF. Om actually never tried to kill anyone. If she actually wanted to, she'd have done it more quietly and in a blink of an eye. The grouping of kings that formed SF was meant for protection and safe keeping of Sky Regalia and that's all there's to it. They essentially don't feel the need to discipline Gabishi. In order for SF to operate properly, they need to set an image that they are people of action and their motto makes most of the AT riders an enemy by default as the majority of the AT riders set their goal on obtaining Sky Regalias. In this perspective, how can u view SF as the antagonists or an evil organization?

[Hyuver]

This discussion is like a persistence match now :sarcastic:

Like what zxcvbn said the group must be responsible for their member behavior, when a Police kill someone the public will blame police as a organization not just the police that do the killing. Don't ask who kill who I just taking this an example

Like I stated before maybe SF has better reason than Genes1s but so do the most of terrorist in this world :lol: all of them claiming for world good, peace blablablabla so you could say they are good too? The matter here is their method is almost the same as Genes1s 'Using Brute Force to gain their goal"
All of us know that America is the bad guy but does the WTC action is acceptable?

That's similar with what the SF do, what they should do instead of of just playing with small fry like Kogarasumaru, crazy kaji and Kokuen, they should just aim for the genes1s head like spitfire and sora, finish them off directly and do unnecessary violence like what Gabishi and Om

[guyver227]

Ringo's hot!!! but her personality's a turn off...hehe

[darkpaul181]

This discussion is like a persistence match now :sarcastic:

Like what zxcvbn said the group must be responsible for their member behavior, when a Police kill someone the public will blame police as a organization not just the police that do the killing. Don't ask who kill who I just taking this an example

Like I stated before maybe SF has better reason than Genes1s but so do the most of terrorist in this world :lol: all of them claiming for world good, peace blablablabla so you could say they are good too? The matter here is their method is almost the same as Genes1s 'Using Brute Force to gain their goal"
All of us know that America is the bad guy but does the WTC action is acceptable?

That's similar with what the SF do, what they should do instead of of just playing with small fry like Kogarasumaru, crazy kaji and Kokuen, they should just aim for the genes1s head like spitfire and sora, finish them off directly and do unnecessary violence like what Gabishi and Om

Sorry guys but i hate Ringo, and despite of that hate, most likely being neutral i agree very much with Hyuver, he said everything. You just can't say that SF is the "right" team or "Genesis" is the "right" one, none of them is right because if SF want good in AT world why they continue to wait and do nothing ? common guys think a little if they really wanted this, AT world would be nicer now.
So this different "way" that Ikki is part of like in the middle of Genesis and SF, this "way" the manga talks alot of he being the Sky King means that he is the only one who can really free AT world from madness to good!, because if you look with care the metods used by SF and Genesis aren't so different, both shares the same; the only team who really is diferent and want to do a difference in a diferent way(lol to much diference XD) is Kogarasumasu, that's what this manga is about XD.

[Jurai]

I happen to like Ringo and think she has reasons for doing what she has done.

[sakiru]

I happen to like Ringo and think she has reasons for doing what she has done.

I hate Ringo with a burning passion, but I agree that she has her reasons. I also think the whole point of the SF/Genesis thing is that you CAN'T choose one or the other, they're both extremists. Gotta go for the middle road, choosing your own path.

On a random note: Did you get your icon from LJ?

[miniii]

I like ringo, she ain't bad.
Her regalia abilities are awesome as well.
SF/Genesis have their own beliefs, it's like religion.
But kogarasumaru would have to be the best team.
Most enjoyable team, other than sora + nike together, lol

[Whisp]

i liked her in the begining but now she has lost he spark

[god_of_the_roads]

Ringo is one of the characters i really like, but i didn't like her actions when it came to simca. though i do think that simca had that coming she knew that she was going to be target not to mention the fact that SF might kill ringo if she leaves them and join ikki.

[T.Y.]

Ringo is in a complex situation, doubt anyone of here can relate to her, i support her because it wasnt her choice to become the heir to SF but rather i think she was forced to join

[silverstar11]

Same here, I still like her and will always like her. I wonder what kind of ending awaits her..and it's really sad that she didn't have much screentime now =(

[sakiru]

I think Ringo had a choice hwne it came to joining SF. She's already stated that she follows their beliefs. Also, Kilik isn't the type to want to hunt someone down for not supporting him. He didn't try to kill everyone when he defeated the original SF, he just wanted to disable them and/or discourage them from getting back into a position of threat to his ideals. He's actually curiously interested in Ikki and Kogarasumaru, not against them, and if Ringo didn't want to be in SF he would let her go. He has no use for people who don't whole-heartedly believe in either him or his ideas. He'd just give her the verbal snub and let her go play with the weak team. If she didn't want to be in SF she'd be a liability to them anyway.

And we all know that he's the one calling the shots.

Ringo's only point of conflict is Ikki. She's in love with him and doesn't want to be against him. But she way she handles that isn't to support him, it was to try and convince him to either agree with her or stop ATing at all. She got him into AT in the hopes he'd join her, even though she knew he wasn't the kind to agree with SF's ideals, and when he did choose his own beliefs over her, she got angsty like she didn't expect it.

Also with Simca, considering all of the people Ringo could go after, someone she KNEW was trying to undermine Genesis was not a good choice. She targeted Simca out of jealousy because Simca's influence over Ikki was, at the time, stronger.

IMO, and it is an opinion so don't assume I think it's all fact, Ringo is a selfish, jealous brat. She expect everything she wants to fall into her lap and when it doesn't she acts like she's some victim of the unfairness of life. Her whole thing with Ikki is one long brat-fit. If she likes him and won't ever make a move to tell him or even to put her support behind him, she has no right to get upset about other people taking the chance, but she does, and that's why I hate her now, even though at the beginning I found her kind of cute.

[Meech]

Ringo is on of the Characters that annoys me because of her lack of action she could have had Ikki any time she wanted. A Ikki sleeps like a brick he get kidnapped like 4 times. B childhood friends are usually the best lovers/partners. Make a move girl and no not on a pair of AT make a move on Ikki

[Zeriah]

I liked Ringo at the beginning of the story when she was really nice and supported Ikki and Koga. But once she started getting jealous of Simca when she didn't make a move on Ikki for all that time was when she started to aggravate me. Then when we found out about SF ideals and beliefs and how she attacked Simca I grew to hate her. She like Kilik have acted far to extremely imo. That and what Sakiru said. Right know Ringo in my opinion seems to be a little angsty, jealous emo girl. What she did to Simca just shows that. :grrrrrr:

[.:Takkun:.]

I hate her. She shouldn't of beat up Simca that was just wrong. I do like her Road but not her.

[HurricaneRoad]

i quete understand Ringo because of here responsebillity to the AT World and to Ikki.. i think it would be hard to decide even for all of u.. but i would also rather see Kururu and Ikki together then with Ringo because of all the lying to him.. and she even werent there for him when ikki got his Wings cut off for the first time (its not like isnt going to get them back:P)..

[Zhen]

I don't like Ringo, even though the manga tries to make her a sympathetic character. Yes, she's good natured, kind and likes Ikki, but a few good points won't make up for all the bad things she's done or been involved in.

As leader of Sleeping Forest and its 'Crazy Apple', she's been involved in the death/maiming of many Stormriders, their only crime(in most cases) that they tried to reach the Trophaeum.

-She didn't restrain Om and Gabish when they went around killing and maiming enemy Stormriders. She didn't intervene even when they attacked Ikki's team fully intending to kill/cripple them(why didn't Ikki mention that during their confrontation).

-She personally attacked a defenceless Simca and rendered her unable to ride ATs ever again.

-She refused to comfort Ikki in his despair after Sora's betrayal, sticking to her team instead, even though she knew that their ideals were questionable.

And don't give me that stuff about Kilik being the real leader of Sleeping Forest. Ringo's the official leader and I'm sure she has a big say in their affairs(I doubt she didn't know about Om and Gabishi attacking Ikki's team).

In the end, the bad outweighs the good in her.

I agree with the comforting Ikki part. I mean if she really loves Ikki and she couldn't even comfort him when he's on the edge? When that tuner dude kissed her and called her by her first name "Ringo" She actually didn't care about the kiss but caring about how he called her by her first name? I think that's just w/e. Kururu x Ikki ftw!

Other than that Ringo is a pretty cool character.

[Raenef]

lame 2nd grader arguements on how "i dun like ringo coz she sooo badddddasssss".
let's try to understand the seriousness of the tension between SF and Genesis?
She's a teen and a 2nd generation GC. she has little to no say in any matters. she's put in the leader position due to her ability, nothing more.
SF has never killed anyone nor did they intended to. Kilik made this clear in serveral occasions. They cripple this and that individuals to shorten their conflict as much as possible.

[Snowfl@ke]

I'm Ringo's fan too. (Hand up :))

I think Ringo is very pretty espectially when she wears glasses. I think her character is pretty cool because she is leader of Sleeping Forest which contrast with her 4-eyes appearence >< Moreover, she is a good-hearted girl who want to protect sky regalia from abusing. Therefore, she is the character that I like the most in Air Gear :)

[Ringo]

I love Ringo too,lol.She's the ideal megane character.But she doesn't receive many fans because she's kinda shy to Ikki,no big breasted and wasn't for Ikki when he found out he was being used.

If only she didn't wait too long to confess to Ikki it'd be better.Another bad thing about her is that even if she has the strength she doesn't use it to protect the ones who loves and to free herself.She's not a revolutionary character that's so bad about her.She'll just sit there and do nothing.

But overall she's my favorite character.She still has a chance to go back to her friends if she only realises that she must put as a priority what she desires.

[DragonTiger]

well about Ringo. this will take long writing:p I take it from start.
I like her but she can't be so good because everyone make bad thing even if they want or don't.

Anyway there was some good points to like her and points to hate her or dislike her.

In begining of story, she is taking care of Ikki and is most close female friend. Rika is earning money, Mikan use Ikki as dummy for her moves and Ume don't show any interest for him just making weird dolls. Ringo is good person.
Later she gave him his first AT (and they are supposed to be expensive) and learn how to use them(she become his wings at first). She is good person. Ikki knew she is in team and when he formed his own team he is aware that she can't join him(he didn't told anyone about Ringo and sleeping forest because he promised her). She is helping them (swimsuit mask) even in battles even thought she shouldn't. that makes her good person.
Simca become like her love rival because Ikki really like Simca but more for her body. Ringo know that Simca wants only use Ikki to reach top of tower and beat kings (maybe I'm wrong). Ringo started to loose points since she can't be so agressive like Simca with using her body and charisma.
Akito stole Ikki's first kiss. Ringo is angry because she wanted for herself. She loses points because of lack of courage to do so. To add oil in fire. Even thought Akito is boy he is cuter then her and even go in bath with Ikki. Ringo lost. reason is lack of courage for doing it. (I don't take he is boy and she is girl. it is about trust that he won't do anything to her). Still Ringo is good person that lack courage.
Ringo is supporting Ikki and his team. In their trip in Kyoto she put her trust in Ikki and use her as 33 m point to break Sora's record. Ikki tryed to cheat by using Agito's fang and failed and almost crush Ringo but he saved her. Ringo is good person with great trust in Ikki and Ikki trust Ringo the most.
Ikki's team got caught up in C-class battle and one member of Sleeping forest helped another team (isn't it against rule of Sleeping Forest?) in other to stop Ikki and his teammate. Maybe reason was about Ikki to be Genesis leader, Genesis and Sleeping Forest are enemies to the death. before that battle one of Sleeping Forest already attacked Ikki's team. that makes two strikes against SF rules to not involve. questions are. If those two could help others team against Ikki and his team why Ringo couldn't at their beginning. next is. Knew Ringo about those attacks on them and braking SF rules. if not and discovered it. did she had argue with others because she is leader. Ringo points are going down. she is becoming bad person.
Attacking Simca. Simca don't get any fighting abillities and yet she beat her to the state, where she can't walk for half year. was it because of SF (they were watching). Simca got felling that Ikki won't become Genesis leader but Ringo not. they still think Ikki's going to be Genesis leader and so they must act. Also for Ringo it was like revenge for using Ikki and playing with his heart and feeling. Ringo's got low score and it was her fault to be unable to get closer to Ikki. Ringo is close to be b..ch.
Ikki find out that Ringo was ploting behind his back and was the one who attacked Simca. Ikki knew Ringo to be in SF but never knew her to be their leader (final decisions are making leaders right). and Kanon asking her to sabotage his AT in front of him and what more. Kanon stole Ringo's first kiss. Ikki's angry at Ringo about Simca and having secrets. he accepted her to be in SF but not to SF to be cruel to beat defendless person and that means also Ringo who is SF leader. His trust in her is almost over. Ringo hates Kanon but she should hates also herself. she should explain everything to Ikki earlier. now it's going to be very hard. Unfortunatly Ikki don't want listen to Ringo. from closest friend to be big bi..h. Ringo must force Ikki to listen somehow (run) and explain to him how cruel AT world and how powerfull Kings are. She also shows that she was easy on her and that she don't do it because she like it but becouse of SF purpouses. Ringo's points went almost to 0 but she earned some trust from Ikki. when Ikki is leaving she gave him kiss to explain situation with Kanon but Ikki is confused in this matter.
SF - top of tower.
Ikki goes to the top to rescue tuner girl but ended up in the center of SF. he's told story about past of SF and Genesis. He find out about Gravity children and everyone in SF is GC. he don't like GC eyes becouse of white cross and Kilik looking down on others. Agito got point about Kilik using other as tools while he is in safity. Ikki is holding pretty good but suddenly Sora betray him. Ikki is crushed. Ringo can't comfort him because of SF rules and her as leader. (lack of courage to do so. is her love for him weak or what?) she knew how she felt when Kilik told her same thing but she got everyone to help her with it but Ikki didn't get. moreover Ringo is somehow like supergirl in middle of SF because of her to be fine with extreme air pressure while even other kings can't stand it. Her place was nicely stolen by Kururu by comforting Ikki inside forest. too bad Ringo. Ringo points are - 1 000. She is totally useless when it comes to help Ikki with his feeling.
After leaving SF she didn't bother to visit Ikki and say sorry or at least comfort even if it would come late. she only observe them how they train for B-class battle. Ringo is now bad girl with - 10 000 pts.
good points - she cares about Ikki
bad points - she don't get enough courage to express herself for Ikki to support him when he needed it the most and courage to break rules when you thing it is needed(like at the top of tower).

How it will go with Ringo? (my hopes that this way)

at Gram Scale SF and Ikki's team will fight first. Ikki as leader will fight Ringo as leader (maybe some other fight of feeling, maybe she let him win if extreme air pressure is used). they will fight their best because they don't want to look like they look down on each other. Maybe he will win even in air pressure even if Ringo won't let him win. It would be nice. beat unbeatable. For Ikki it is possible (remember disk match with Rika. he won when storm came. noone could know how to go but he knew). SF is destroyed somehow or join forces with Ikki against Genesis. After Gram Scale. SF is no longer - Ringo join Ikki and do AT for fun and improve their relationship (maybe even to the point of wedding). SF is still and Ringo leaves after having arguement with others in SF and Ikki's team back her up. She join Ikki's team etc. SF is still. Ringo change rules of SF and is with Ikki and having fun doing AT like she wished for (with Ikki of course) etc.

In sumary
Ringo looks like good girl at the beginning. thanks to keeping secrets about her and SF, lack of courage and etc. she looks like really bad girl (wolf in sheep skin). In the end she is honest and got enough courage and reach her dream like in fairytale.

I know it is long. thanks for reading:)

[Xemnas]

I dislike ringo and SF..except Kilik..his character design and crosses are badass....

They're all stuck up and arrogant....and very self righteous which i hate.

[Ringo]

at Gram Scale SF and Ikki's team will fight first. Ikki as leader will fight Ringo as leader (maybe some other fight of feeling, maybe she let him win if extreme air pressure is used). they will fight their best because they don't want to look like they look down on each other. Maybe he will win even in air pressure even if Ringo won't let him win. It would be nice. beat unbeatable. For Ikki it is possible (remember disk match with Rika. he won when storm came. noone could know how to go but he knew). SF is destroyed somehow or join forces with Ikki against Genesis. After Gram Scale. SF is no longer - Ringo join Ikki and do AT for fun and improve their relationship (maybe even to the point of wedding). SF is still and Ringo leaves after having arguement with others in SF and Ikki's team back her up. She join Ikki's team etc. SF is still. Ringo change rules of SF and is with Ikki and having fun doing AT like she wished for (with Ikki of course) etc.

I don't get why Ikki and Ringo should end up together.Even if Ringo's my fav character and I wanted to end up with Ikki,Ikki doesn't seem to respond to her feelings.He never said to himself that he loves her or her kiss made his heart beat faster(lame I know) and the feelings he expresses for her are like those of friends or a brother's for her sister.Never considered her as a woman.How would that change after all that?Even if he has feelings for her but hasn't realise then why did he believe what Kanon said from the second he heard him?He should've asked axplainations from Ringo.But no,he ran away.Also he never worried about her the way he worries about Kururu or about Simca.

[DragonTiger]

you've got your point. I think it is more like they grew together untill recently. maybe by time he will realise his feelings for Ringo. anyway he ran away becouse last thing Kanon said was about attack on Simca but he discovered that she went easy on her and believe in her. maybe because she didn't say him loudly she love him from the deepest part of her heart he don't realized it.(he is slow in this way) true he care about SImca. she was nice and let him touch her breasts. Kururu is somehow soul friend so they get along very well but remember his reaction on Kururu's father sayings about taking care of her. Anyway I like Ringo and hope she meet happy end with Ikki.

[Ringo]

you've got your point. I think it is more like they grew together untill recently. maybe by time he will realise his feelings for Ringo. anyway he ran away becouse last thing Kanon said was about attack on Simca but he discovered that she went easy on her and believe in her. maybe because she didn't say him loudly she love him from the deepest part of her heart he don't realized it. true he care about SImca. she was nice and let him touch her breasts. Kururu is somehow soul friend so they get along very well but remember his reaction on Kururu's father sayings about taking care of her. Anyway I like Ringo and hope she meet happy end with Ikki.

I hope so too*sigh*.My problem is that it isn't shown anywhere that Ikki considers Ringo like a woman.(I'm sure he hasn't even realised how much she's changed physically and mentally since they were kids,no matter if he grabbed her breasts,which was some sort of crisis for meat)

-And something towards anti-Ringo:Isn't this thread supposed to be for those who like Ringo?That's only my thought,I hope I don't get misunderstood.

[DragonTiger]

I hope so too*sigh*.My problem is that it isn't shown anywhere that Ikki considers Ringo like a woman.(I'm sure he hasn't even realised how much she's changed physically and mentally since they were kids,no matter if he grabbed her breasts,which was some sort of crisis for meat)

-And something towards anti-Ringo:Isn't this thread supposed to be for those who like Ringo?That's only my thought,I hope I don't get misunderstood.

Well untill she rape him, he maybe won't see her as woman.
battle at the top. Ringo rape Ikki or Ikki rape Ringo? who is winner. Just joke.:)

[Ringo]

Well untill she rape him, he maybe won't see her as woman.
battle at the top. Ringo rape Ikki or Ikki rape Ringo? who is winner. Just joke.:)

Nah,I don't think she'll be able to rape him.Ikki's a man,greater power then hers.Except if she gets him drunk lol.

He might realise it if she confess to him again and have a very serious convo telling him something like:"You never really noticed how much I've grown both physically and mentally."

[DragonTiger]

Nah,I don't think she'll be able to rape him.Ikki's a man,greater power then hers.Except if she gets him drunk lol.

He might realise it if she confess to him again and have a very serious convo telling him something like:"You never really noticed how much I've grown both physically and mentally."

about rape was joke but getting him drunk? well we could discus how to make man to make love with woman. something like massage and bath service do the same trick :wink2:

your second note. you maybe right. she must yell it to his face and maybe give him long time taking deep kiss. ^^;p

[Ringo]

about rape was joke but getting him drunk? well we could discus how to make man to make love with woman. something like massage and bath service do the same trick :wink2:

your second note. you maybe right. she must yell it to his face and maybe give him long time taking deep kiss. ^^;p

Yup,it is a joke.Only Simca would really rape him,lol.(no flaming).
But even if they don't end up together,I hope she ends up with Kanon*flames of moe*.
But,there's always a but,if Oh!Great decides to make them end up together,I'm sure for one thing.That'll take a lot of chapters until then.

[kaider]

Well somebody should rape him alredy! The guy is what.. 16 now.. and hes seen a lot of stuff, even got simcas *cough* honey pot in his face..

On topic: Who likes ringo
I like her, but then again i like 90% of manga girls
But she shouldnt wear glasses, or at least some nice ones with thin frames..

[Ringo]

But she shouldnt wear glasses, or at least some nice ones with thin frames..
About that,the thick ones sure makes her look a little nerdy that's why she's like pushing away the fans.

If she'd only could be more like this:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/tara_nc/air_gear_poster.jpg

[kaider]

Well in that pic it takes some time to notice the glasses..
Still she should get contacts. I dont like the glasses cuz they make her nerdy (they dont), i just dont like glasses :D

[Ringo]

Well in that pic it takes some time to notice the glasses..
Still she should get contacts. I dont like the glasses cuz they make her nerdy (they dont), i just dont like glasses :D

Lol,yeah it'd suit her more if she used contacts(that's why she should fight more,she doesn't wear glasses).But I personally find megane characters attractive or cute(not all of them)

[Snowfl@ke]

Anyone here support RingoxKanon?

At first, I support RingoxIkki but, after reviewed the moment of Ringo and Kanon, I

changed my mind. I think Kanon is the one who really care about Ringo's feeling.

I impress the scene that Kanon said he's the only guy who konw Ringo's body but, when

he saw that Ringo look worry about it, he said that he just tease about it to make her

feel better. He also said that he won't come again because he know that Ringo doesn't

want him to show up in front of Ikki. He also made Ringo and Ikki reconcile

eventhough it made Ringo hate him. Moreover, I think Kanon's character is cool. He

addicts to music and, his guitar case seem to be interesting. So, if Ringo can't end up

with Ikki, I hope she ends up with Kanon (Actually, now I support Kanon more ^^).

[9taileddemon]

I support Kanon. I have always supported him but I have especially supported him after he appears in the classroom with his face on Ringo's chair and then he walks off with it.

Lol

[kaider]

That was awesome.

But otherwise hes just a guy who likes her a lot and thats it. But makes a good supporting character

[9taileddemon]

Yeah he just pops up every so often for some comic relief or to help out.

I can see what he means by saying that he does not care about the Trophaem since he is kinda helping Kogarausmaru AKA SF's enemy.

[kaider]

Yea as long as he tunes Ringo when she needs it hes not breakin any rules.. so he can do pretty much anything he wants

[Ringo]

Anyone here support RingoxKanon?

At first, I support RingoxIkki but, after reviewed the moment of Ringo and Kanon, I

changed my mind. I think Kanon is the one who really care about Ringo's feeling.

I impress the scene that Kanon said he's the only guy who konw Ringo's body but, when

he saw that Ringo look worry about it, he said that he just tease about it to make her

feel better. He also said that he won't come again because he know that Ringo doesn't

want him to show up in front of Ikki. He also made Ringo and Ikki reconcile

eventhough it made Ringo hate him. Moreover, I think Kanon's character is cool. He

addicts to music and, his guitar case seem to be interesting. So, if Ringo can't end up

with Ikki, I hope she ends up with Kanon (Actually, now I support Kanon more ^^).
Yups,I do support Ringo x Kanon(love him).They too know each other.I believe that Kanon knows Ringo better than Ikki and he has feelings for her for sure.I wish Ringo just understands that.She's treating Kanon the same as Ikki is treating to her.

[9taileddemon]

She might eventually get over it and accept Kanon's feelings. But first Ikki has to accept Kururu's feelings and then Ringo will be sad for a while and eventually accept it. And maybe then she will go out with Kanon.

[kaider]

But even if she gets together with Kanon, she wont stop lovin Ikki. Its too late for her.. love is a tricky thing

[9taileddemon]

I know she won't ever stop loving Ikki but maybe slowly that love can be replaced with new love.


Her own fault for waiting so long before admitting her feelings.

[Ringo]

But even if she gets together with Kanon, she wont stop lovin Ikki. Its too late for her.. love is a tricky thing

Nah,she's still 15(very young)I haven't seen anyone who hasn't got over love at that age.It's not like she's doomed to love him for the rest of her life,otherwise she'd be stupid.So maybe Kanon makes her understand by making her see the truth of what there is between Ikki and Kururu.

[Miki]

I like her skills. Love her hair. But hate her attitude. She should have been more confident, being the leader of Sleeping Forest.

[JimmyTbh]

The problem isnt Ringo its just she in love with a idiot ... :)

[UchihaCelis]

Nah,she's still 15(very young)I haven't seen anyone who hasn't got over love at that age.It's not like she's doomed to love him for the rest of her life,otherwise she'd be stupid.So maybe Kanon makes her understand by making her see the truth of what there is between Ikki and Kururu.

i hope that aint the case and anyways...wot is really going on between Ikki and Kururu?? its still jut speculation we havent seen them together properly get and even if kururu does like ikki we dont know 100% how he feels.
i doubt Ringo will ever get with Kanon, ever. She's probably more suited for Ikki and him for her. they understand each other and care for each other. although wen she ditch him after Sora's betray that pissed me off bt i sure it hurts her more that she could be there for him than you all think. ringo's the best...give her a break and wait until the tournament we'll see wot she's really like.

[Ringo]

i hope that aint the case and anyways...wot is really going on between Ikki and Kururu?? its still jut speculation we havent seen them together properly get and even if kururu does like ikki we dont know 100% how he feels.
i doubt Ringo will ever get with Kanon, ever. She's probably more suited for Ikki and him for her. they understand each other and care for each other. although wen she ditch him after Sora's betray that pissed me off bt i sure it hurts her more that she could be there for him than you all think. ringo's the best...give her a break and wait until the tournament we'll see wot she's really like.
I don't think Ikki really understands her now.He doesn't understand the position she's in and that she can't change that.If he was a little more mature it would make a big difference.Maybe that's why they don't seem to completely "communicate"(if that's the word best fir in here) with each other.
As an ending I'd hope that Ikki would lose to Sora in the finals and Ringo would then defeat Sora for his sake,which I doubt it'll happen.

And before someone concludes that I support Ikki x Kururu,that's wrong.I absolutely support Ringo x Ikki,but right now Ikki seems closer to Kururu than anyone else before and might end up with her.

[kaider]

Well.. Too bad for her that Ikki is a moron. For all the years they lived together, he didnt even once notice that she acted weird.. Even when the story began for us the readers anyone in his place woulve asked himself "hey isnt she acting a little weird sometimes around me" from the first couple of arcs.

But her situation is difficult to overcome.. At least once she wished she wasnt in SF, and she didnt want to act the way she was supposed to act as the leader of the team. That way she wouldve become even closer with Ikki than they were before. If Ikki didnt start riding ATs and never made his team - then he woulde eventually find out bout SF and im positive that he wouldve joined them..

And then it mightve been a happy end for her love.
But all is different. She's a nice girl - i hope she overcomes it, even if they dont end up together

[UchihaCelis]

ikki does kinda unterstand her, bt only through AT lol. she tries to get him to understand her situation with SF and Genesis wen him and her fought for the first time...you know this happened jus bfore she kissed him . i will always support ikki x ringo. ikki just needs to concentrate less on AT and a bit more on the people's feelings around him

[JimmyTbh]

I don't think Ikki really understands her now.He doesn't understand the position she's in and that she can't change that.If he was a little more mature it would make a big difference.Maybe that's why they don't seem to completely "communicate"(if that's the word best fir in here) with each other.
As an ending I'd hope that Ikki would lose to Sora in the finals and Ringo would then defeat Sora for his sake,which I doubt it'll happen.

And before someone concludes that I support Ikki x Kururu,that's wrong.I absolutely support Ringo x Ikki,but right now Ikki seems closer to Kururu than anyone else before and might end up with her.

... Ringo beats Sora would prolly result in Ikki hating her more. Ringo should leave Sleeping Forrest and join Ikki team there fighting the same person.

I support the Ikki Is loser group ... how does he get somany girls :(

[UchihaCelis]

... Ringo beats Sora would prolly result in Ikki hating her more. Ringo should leave Sleeping Forrest and join Ikki team there fighting the same person.

I support the Ikki Is loser group ... how does he get somany girls :(

thats just one of many mysteries in life
bt y would ikki hate ringo even more. he no longer cares about SF or Genesis, he jus wants to ride ATs and win. i sure he'll understand that its Ringo's responsibility to defeat Sora as SF leader

[JimmyTbh]

If he no longer cares for SF or Genesis how will understand her responsibility. Ikki sees Ringo as a weak leader (I know I do) She beating Sora when he could not would crush his pride :) ... He would be empty he couldn't do anything he was too weak = Emo Ikki + Comforting Kururu = Ringo Loss.

Hate was prolly 2 strong of a word ... I meant there relationship wouldn't be any better off for it.

[DragonTiger]

well I still go for IkkixRingo. Now it looks like KururuxIkki. About Ringo leaving SF. She is leader(more like triumpg card) but I think the true leader is Kilik who control SF from shadow. anyway was Ringo given option to join SF or not? Ringo can't simple leave SF. Remeber C-class battle. That girl from SF. She failed so she decieded to die (Stupid, it is more like in military - you failed, you should die). Ikki understand Ringo that she is really good person who hates to do bad things to others and he somehow understand that she is more or less forced to do bad things. maybe after SHe kissed him he will begin to realize to who he really love. Is it Ringo or Simca or Kururu?

Well I like Ringo but she could at least visit Ikki after he left tower and needed something to cheer up (nice move Kururu) and tell him everything because there is no longer need for secrets about her and SF. She should told him her story about her and SF. Well that is what I think she should do.

[Ringo]

Kogarasumaru would have been disbanned if it wasn't for Ringo back then,when she masked herself.But Ikki doesn't know it,he thinks it was Simca(how dumb he is,it makes me wanna kick his butt),like she ever helped him in a battle.I bet if he knew that it was Ringo it might change his mind.I hope Croissant Mask returns,cause O!G totally forgot about her.She even took the risk to help Kogarasumaru when that it's illegal in the AT world.

[kaider]

Was it illegal? Takin 1 extra rider even if he/she isnt from your team isnt illegal, or it was somethin like that..

Croissant mask gave a good comic appearance.. but i doudbt shell return in the near future - we have the GST, and everybody knows that Ringo is her, everybody except Ikki lol.
So SF wont be happy if she tryes to help Koga

[Ringo]

Was it illegal? Takin 1 extra rider even if he/she isnt from your team isnt illegal, or it was somethin like that..
By illegal I meant that she wasn't allowed to help them.She would get punished(i think).Sorry if I didn't make it that clear.

I remember when Simca changed the bags with the costumes inside.

I was like that when I saw Ringo"WTF?Wasn't she looking while she was wearing the costume that it was the wrong one?"

[9taileddemon]

Instead of answering other peoples posts I am going to just answer the main question.

I personally do not like Ringo that much because they built up so much about her and Ikki and since she never said or did anything for so long it ended up not having anything occur.

I guess I should say I liked the old less serious Ringo. I don't like the new Ringo
Same thing with Sora.

[silverstar11]

Lol, for me I like it when Ringo is serious ..so coool!! That's why I really want to see her battles.
(^.^)V
+ btw, Kanon is not bad at all, he really cares for her plus he got some skills.

[grolsch375]

i disliked her at the beginning , and i still do , altho she has a nice body.

[Ringo]

Lol, for me I like it when Ringo is serious ..so coool!! That's why I really want to see her battles.
(^.^)V
+ btw, Kanon is not bad at all, he really cares for her plus he got some skills.

I like best too when she is serious.I don't like her when she acts like a dumb.

[JimmyTbh]

By illegal I meant that she wasn't allowed to help them.She would get punished(i think).Sorry if I didn't make it that clear.

I remember when Simca changed the bags with the costumes inside.

I was like that when I saw Ringo"WTF?Wasn't she looking while she was wearing the costume that it was the wrong one?"

Yeah she pretty brave to run out in that ... Im sure Simca would have but Ringo :S

well I still go for IkkixRingo. Now it looks like KururuxIkki. About Ringo leaving SF. She is leader(more like triumpg card) but I think the true leader is Kilik who control SF from shadow. anyway was Ringo given option to join SF or not? Ringo can't simple leave SF. Remeber C-class battle. That girl from SF. She failed so she decieded to die (Stupid, it is more like in military - you failed, you should die). Ikki understand Ringo that she is really good person who hates to do bad things to others and he somehow understand that she is more or less forced to do bad things. maybe after SHe kissed him he will begin to realize to who he really love. Is it Ringo or Simca or Kururu?

She can leave weneva she likes, Its easy just like quiting a lame job. Dont show up the next day, Every1 in sleeping forrest are weak Ikki stood up to Kilik Np. The rest are like scared to death they dont deserve to be kings :)