Useless Law of Neutrality

[zxcvbn]

According Toul Tool Tou's law of neutrality, they will not take sides the the AT Conflict, and in return the AT teams will refrain from attacking them.

But is it even valid anymore? Pledge Queen Makigami broke it when she led ikki and Agito into Sleeping Forest's trap, and the Takeuchi brothers have broken it twice by 1)breaking in, stealing the Bagram and kidnapping Hako and 2)attacking Kururu(chap 174). Shouldn't it be declared null and void by now?

[Fredegart]

I guess the neutrality was valid only for ttt team... and the takeuchi brothers aren't included on that.
About Ine leading them to the tower... it was like taking sides, but she said something about Ikki needing to know the truth before take sides...

But really... is now that ttt took side... with kururu livin with ikki and being by his side day by day... She throw out the neutral condition and decided that this time, alike her teacher Ine, she would be a part of the crisis and she wants to be with whom she likes... again alike Ine that didn't follow spitfire.

[vogirl]

well i mean technically, tuners must break neutrality at some point when they tune for a king, i think its the team itself that is neutral because they send out members to different sides....if that makes sense...what i mean is like, kururu is on one side, and then whoever tunes for the soras is on another side, but they both belong to a team whose rule is that they must help BOTH sides, so it's not really neutral...it's more like, they help both sides & they don't have enemies...TTT = allies to everyone
i dont know if you consider that neutral

okay so i ahve a question about the whole pledge king thing...what is it? do they ride AT? how can they be king...i mean i know that kururu doesnt ride AT ...and do they ahve a regalia/road etc?

[Black Rabbit]

okay so i ahve a question about the whole pledge king thing...what is it? do they ride AT? how can they be king...i mean i know that kururu doesnt ride AT ...and do they ahve a regalia/road etc?

you just don't know man....kururu's bicycle is the ultimate regalia..lol

[vogirl]

ahahahahha that bicycle lmao i love how there even is a bike in the world of at ...its kinda like.........what?.....hahah

[Soladrin]

According Toul Tool Tou's law of neutrality, they will not take sides the the AT Conflict, and in return the AT teams will refrain from attacking them.

But is it even valid anymore? Pledge Queen Makigami broke it when she led ikki and Agito into Sleeping Forest's trap, and the Takeuchi brothers have broken it twice by 1)breaking in, stealing the Bagram and kidnapping Hako and 2)attacking Kururu(chap 174). Shouldn't it be declared null and void by now?

Hey d*ckfart, stop spoiling things in not yet translated chapters, this is the second time i see you doing it, and im getting annoyed by it.

[Fredegart]

lol?
That was super cool.

But you know... Oh!G left many empty slots on the story arc.
There's many things that we only can make a theory about and some that contradict what was said earlier...

I mean, this thing of the pledge queen being someone without a regalia it would be something possible, but she's not even a rider... Nether Ine or Kururu, although Kururu show some interest in entering the AT's world.

[Satralis]

basically Pledge King is a title that belongs to the best mechanic of the TTT. As for ATs it doesnt need to be connected to riding. TTT provides assistance to all riders, and it is considered neutrality since they wont take sides by helping everyone. The Pledge King title itself is a bit weird since Ine was the first to attain it and now Kururu so... it was never a title for a male user...nvm.
Another thing is that the tuners themself have no sides in actual matters, they just support the king they are assigned to. Prolly have no word in decisions and such although they are necessary to the point that regalias wont work without them (prperly)

[Fredegart]

That was a nice one...
=D
I guess it's ok thinking that way...
And I think that:
Kanon is ringo's tuner... He helped sora and Rika-ne... And made the situation between ikki and ringo worst at that time... He can do anything he wants not making something that can affect his king/queen in a negative way.

So I guess the team itself is neutral, but the tuners after being nominated some king's tuner can sure take their king side or continue neutral, treating the tuning like some work and doin' it professionaly.

It reminds me about Nue's tuner... She doesn't seemed so involved with him (and the reverse goes well too) like kanon with ringo (but not reverse.. lol) or ine with spitfire (the same case).

[Satralis]

I agree.
Only one point is questionable. Namely that Nue's tuner is all out for him. But it seemed that Nue was rather annoyed, especially during his tuning...altough being watched when someone does something so intim as tuning to you must be a bit hard.

[Fredegart]

True indeed...
That time he looked impatient... It's understandable...
But when he get out he was being very formal with her...

[Katsuomori]

According Toul Tool Tou's law of neutrality, they will not take sides the the AT Conflict, and in return the AT teams will refrain from attacking them.

But is it even valid anymore? Pledge Queen Makigami broke it when she led ikki and Agito into Sleeping Forest's trap, and the Takeuchi brothers have broken it twice by 1)breaking in, stealing the Bagram and kidnapping Hako and 2)attacking Kururu(chap 174). Shouldn't it be declared null and void by now?


Yeah,neutrality. From what I can see... Toul Tools Too had already breached the neutrality zone whcih they claimed that they haven't. Anyway, it's rather comfusing on which side they are on now at the world of AT. Ike... that shell head indeed had broken the neutrality quite a lot.

[chrono]

According Toul Tool Tou's law of neutrality, they will not take sides the the AT Conflict, and in return the AT teams will refrain from attacking them.

But is it even valid anymore?

It NEVER was valid to begin with. Toul Tool Tou is actually a tool of Sleeping Forest. Has been since it's beginning when it's queen sided with Kilik's team against Sora's.

But now that the New Pledge Queen has arrived it may become impartial, second generation after all. But it's clear that Ku is just as bias. I think that as long as the Queen is a tuner TTT can never be really neutral.

[Katsuomori]

^And despite all that the Toul Tool Too still considered themselves neutral... I wonder what is their point of view about neutrality or do they know what is neutrality is supposed to be.

[Fredegart]

TTT can be neutral in the meaning of helping kings from both genesis and sf... and now koga too... But as any other they could do things they believe being right. Like taking Ikki to the tower, thinking that would best for ikki to know about the things the way they were.
TTT don't help one and neglect service for another... They just do things like they thought would be ok for everyone...
I didn't see they doing something against someone... Maybe in someones favor.

[zxcvbn]

TTT can be neutral in the meaning of helping kings from both genesis and sf... and now koga too... But as any other they could do things they believe being right. Like taking Ikki to the tower, thinking that would best for ikki to know about the things the way they were.
TTT don't help one and neglect service for another... They just do things like they thought would be ok for everyone...
I didn't see they doing something against someone... Maybe in someones favor.

They were clearly leading Ikki and Agito into a trap. Kilik stated that if Ikki failed his test, he'd lose his wings(meaning Kilik would cripple him like Sora). And didn't Makigami promise she'd let nothing happen to Ikki and Agito?

[Raenef]

they are more like all-around support team. they take no actions themselves. they take no visible sides. they aid those in need. that is all.

[Fredegart]

Something like that...
Taking them to the tower is one thing... Letin something happen with them is another...
It seemed that the agreed that they had (sf and ttt) was to take them downstairs for talk... And kilik said those things to make ikki get serious and pay attention... but that as we saw, was just a waste of time for kilik...
But it's odd... Sometimes they really seem neutral about everything... and yet sometimes they act in a non-neutral way.

[Katsuomori]

I guess each of the Toul Tool Too members have their own sides. Due to the fact that the members took different sides, that's why they call themselves under neutrality.

[Fredegart]

This could fit the situation here.
=)

[chrollo]

this thread reminds me of that episode of futurama where zap brannigan attacks the Neutrals homeworld
and he says something like "those damn neutrals, you can never tell what side their on" lol

[zxcvbn]

I guess each of the Toul Tool Too members have their own sides. Due to the fact that the members took different sides, that's why they call themselves under neutrality.
So if you side with everybody and anybody, you're neutral? Seems the complete opposite to me.

[Flex1]

Think of TTT situation like this:

TTT is an AT Tuning Shop. AT riders from anywhere come and use their services. For Kings they have special services not given to any other AT rider and that is a personal Tuner.

Now forget all they said and just think about leading Ikki to SF base as a sort of service. They brought him there, SF told him the true story of everything that happens and what they stand for so that Ikki can understand them and make his decition with everything understood.

Also remember that sometimes they say one thing but then do the other. Remember at the start when Ringo said she couldn't forgive Skullsaders for making Ikki piss himself and beating him up but fast foward to some chapter along the 120+ or higher and her team, SF is doing the same to the others. Trashing Simca while she is walking in the street, perhaps killing some members from Spitfire team, disfigurating faces from riders, etc.

[chrono]

I guess each of the Toul Tool Too members have their own sides. Due to the fact that the members took different sides, that's why they call themselves under neutrality.

Then it's a fake neutrality and TTT is just waiting to break apart at the seams because of it.


zxcvbn, I totally agree. Makigami was Spitfires lover and was bias towards his team when Kilik and Sora fought and was still associated with Kilik and SleepingForest.

TTT's claims of neutrality are as fake as can be especially in a war that has only 2 sides until Ikki arrived.

[chrono]

They brought him there, SF told him the true story of everything that happens and what they stand for so that Ikki can understand them and make his decision with everything understood.

His only decision was to do what SF said.

"Become OUR Wind King so that we can win against Sora. Or get broken."

Makigami knew this well before hand and were prepping Ku for him. Hell SF had a team of it's team IN TTT!

[zxcvbn]

Well, now I've read chapter 179 and can say for sure that the law of neutrality is nil by now. ALL of TTT siding with White Wolf?!(Even if they're doing it to help Koga improve, they're technically still taking sides)

[Kayldera]

IMO ,if they are really neutral, nothing prevent Koga to ask for their services( but we all know they are never going to do that...), they willfully choose to help the wwc but I guess if somebody else required their help they'll help them without question. I guess we have to look at that neutrality like the Swiss neutrality: if in time of war, they'll lend money to anybody as long as they are capable to repay back( I'm not to sure about this one...)

[penguinism]

all the neutrality means is they arent taking sides when it comes to the sky regalia, like all of TTT supporting koga, or all supporting genesis, etc...all the tuenrs are with their respective riders no matter the team...it just so happens kururu's rider is ikki

[Katsuomori]

all the neutrality means is they arent taking sides when it comes to the sky regalia, like all of TTT supporting koga, or all supporting genesis, etc...all the tuenrs are with their respective riders no matter the team...it just so happens kururu's rider is ikki

In other words... neutrallity to them means that every member of Toul Tool Too had served different teams (eg: Kururu - Koragasumaru and Kanon - Sleeping Forest)?

[penguinism]

neutrality to them means "we dont care about getting the sky regalia" so teams have no reason to fight TTT cuz the only reason to fight with AT's is for the ultimate goal of getting that sky regalia

[par167]

all the neutrality means is they arent taking sides when it comes to the sky regalia, like all of TTT supporting koga, or all supporting genesis, etc...all the tuenrs are with their respective riders no matter the team...it just so happens kururu's rider is ikki

Ok but by helping WW they are blocking or trying to block Koga from going to the tower right? Helping WW is stopping Koga. As said in past chapters the tower is about ready to open so if the tower opened the day after this loss Koga is out of the running.


If Kururu is truely Ikki's tuner then she should be concidered a traitor for going against the king she was assigned.She was assigned to Ikki right? How can Ikki trust a tuner whom leaves him at the most critical moments in battle.EX Kinda like a midevil knight whose weaponbearer leaves him in the fight with no weapon.If the knight lives thorugh the fight he hunts down the guy and probably kills him because of his betral.Don't go into the ringo fight being a tuner is a full time gig not just when you feel like it.

[penguinism]

Ok but by helping WW they are blocking or trying to block Koga from going to the tower right? Helping WW is stopping Koga. As said in past chapters the tower is about ready to open so if the tower opened the day after this loss Koga is out of the running.

no, koga is goin to the tower no matter what...any b rank team and higher can go and them losing wont make them lose their b rank...all losing will do is put them in their place

how would koga be out of the running? maybe if they lost AT the tower theyd be out of the running, but ANY b rank team can go to the tower once its opened


If Kururu is truely Ikki's tuner then she should be concidered a traitor for going against the king she was assigned.She was assigned to Ikki right? How can Ikki trust a tuner whom leaves him at the most critical moments in battle.EX Kinda like a midevil knight whose weaponbearer leaves him in the fight with no weapon.If the knight lives thorugh the fight he hunts down the guy and probably kills him because of his betral.Don't go into the ringo fight being a tuner is a full time gig not just when you feel like it.
not a traitor unless ikki saw her a traitor, he expected her to help HER DAD

[Katsuomori]

Hmmm... so losing this match means that Kogarasumaru will not loose their B-rank but enjoy (or not) the contract that the Sirius Group proposed. Yeah, Kururu is expected by Ikki to be helping her father. Well, he did look at her calmly right? Just that she does look a little restless about it.

I guess that the Toul Tool To team members will help the kings (which some were from different groups) as their first priority as they help the other teams as well. Yeah, they don't really care about the Sky Regelia...

[silverstar11]

I think their definition of Neutrality is a little different from what I know but understandable. They're neutral in terms of helping any team and kings by lending their skills and services for that matter, and they do not involve themselves into the conflict of interest of other teams (maybe) :blink:

[Katsuomori]

I think their definition of Neutrality is a little different from what I know but understandable. They're neutral in terms of helping any team and kings by lending their skills and services for that matter, and they do not involve themselves into the conflict of interest of other teams (maybe) :blink:

Yeah, that's something that I had in mind. ^^ Not getting involve with any other conflicts but only help the riders and serve the kings no matter which team they are.

[grahf]

They are still neutral becuase they have various tuners for various kings that are on various teams. Their ideals remain intact, case and point Hako is back.

[zxcvbn]

Then why isn't a single tuner on Koga's side in this match? They're ALL supporting White Wolf against Koga.

[Hyuver]

The purpose of this match is to make Kogarasumaru lose, so of course Kururu will make sure there that Kogarasumaru will be at disadvantage position during the match, and so far the only tuner that has an association with Kogarasumaru is only Kururu

So far it looks like that it wasn't tuner who choose the rider but the tuner is assigned to the rider, since from the beginning they already think that they can't choose side so all they can do is just obey their leader

[tekkadark]

The purpose of this match is to make Kogarasumaru lose, so of course Kururu will make sure there that Kogarasumaru will be at disadvantage position during the match, and so far the only tuner that has an association with Kogarasumaru is only Kururu

So far it looks like that it wasn't tuner who choose the rider but the tuner is assigned to the rider, since from the beginning they already think that they can't choose side so all they can do is just obey their leader

So in this sistuation Kururu is jsut pulling Rank, like we saw her do with Hako, as she ordered her to tune Kururu's father.

The law of neutrailty as i undestand it seems to be that, as penguinism said, they are neutral when it comes to the Sky Regalia, and will help any rider regardless of team or conflict. it seems that this was also me to keep cohesion within the team, since many different tuners go to many different teams, the law of neutrality is in place so that if nessicary they know that their first loyalty is to TTT first and not thier riders....its still kinda confusing XP.

it seems like Kururu is doing this not for WW, but for Koga, so they will learn something, so ina sense she is doing her job as a tuner, but instead of tuning Ikki's regalia, shes tuning his team XD.

[grahf]

Then why isn't a single tuner on Koga's side in this match? They're ALL supporting White Wolf against Koga.

And why did the Pledge King spend practically 24/7 with Koga prior to this match?

[penguinism]

Then why isn't a single tuner on Koga's side in this match? They're ALL supporting White Wolf against Koga.

i dont remember koga asking for any tuners, did they?

[Hyuver]

Since the beginning they never really neutral, why they say and they act like neutral is to protect their tuner, so if someone attack the tuner the other could jump in and help the tuner just like what Ringo did now, surely if a tuner is a part of non neutral team no one will bother save them

[Katsuomori]

i dont remember koga asking for any tuners, did they?

Nope, I don't think they did ask for one. All I know that Kururu join Kogarasumaru by her own will. Ikki just accepts her.

[tekkadark]

Nope, I don't think they did ask for one. All I know that Kururu join Kogarasumaru by her own will. Ikki just accepts her.

if thats hte case, then would Koga have full range of service and support of TTT once the battle is over and Kururu rejoins Koga (if she does)?

[epistle]

uhmmm... I don't remeber the pledge queen joining Ikky's team. Shes his tuner and shes probalbly helping out her fathers team to help ikky "grow". But your right, it dosn't help the neutral part if shes both a tuner and pledge queen.

[Katsuomori]

@tekkadark: I think so that Kogarasumaru would have the full support from the Toul Tool To members once Kururu joins Kogarasumaru but I may be wrong...

@epistle: Read trick 171. Kururu asked Ikki if she could ever join him. She got paniced (and made a one or so long row of ATs) and Ikki accepts her offer. So that means that she joined Ikki's team. She was worried about this decision made by her since it means that Toul Tool To team has sided with Kogarasumaru as she is the head of the Kogarasumaru (as said by Kanon during his visit at Kigashi High).

[Blite]

First: What is the TTT's job?
The average TTT member is suppose to help any rider with repairs to their A-T; "The path that connects people and A-T...the Ring Road." There other job is to support the Kings as tuners.

Definition of Neutral - not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others

TTT isn't neutral in the classical sense. In fact you shouldn't even say they are neutral; they can clam to help everyone but its impossible for them to help everyone equally. The only reason I see as to why TTT can claim to be neutral is because they themselves don't take part in Part Wars(as a team).

[grahf]

First: What is the TTT's job?
The average TTT member is suppose to help any rider with repairs to their A-T; "The path that connects people and A-T...the Ring Road." There other job is to support the Kings as tuners.

Definition of Neutral - not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others

TTT isn't neutral in the classical sense. In fact you shouldn't even say they are neutral; they can clam to help everyone but its impossible for them to help everyone equally. The only reason I see as to why TTT can claim to be neutral is because they themselves don't take part in Part Wars(as a team).


In a sense you're right. But Neutral and equal aren't the same thing. From Koga's standpoint they dont' use Kururu for her skills, when she is with them she is just a stand in for Ringo. As was brought up by the girls and Ikki's brainfart in calling Kururu Ringo when she was in the locker. In that sense they had the opportunity to receive services and just didn't ask for it.

Whether thats Kururu's fault of Ikki's fault it doesn't matter. But in this current battle they don't have TTTs services to rely on. Perhaps in the coming battles they will but somehow I don't really see this turning out well. Ikki already doesn't want a regalia, hasn't really wanted his ATs tuned, perhaps now he won't want Kururu around all together.

[par167]

i dont remember koga asking for any tuners, did they?

Don't remember Kururu's daddy beggin for her help either but might have missed it.I won't argue she is helpin dad and WW to get good publicity so maybe they can pay the bills because people will buy product based on TTT preformance upgrades that cannot be massed produced because the average rider does'nt have a tuner to help them work like they did in the match with koga..So what we have figured out is Kururu is helping the company oh excuse me WW to win a match that will help them trick the general public into buying parts that won't work. Sounds like a bad commerical to me not a neutrality conflict.

[pipoy22]

I think the Law of Neutrality is for riders not attacking TTT.
It's more of like Switzerland, no country would dare to attack Switzerland because every other country would come and defend it.
It's gotta be something like that.

[silverstar11]

I think the Law of Neutrality is for riders not attacking TTT.

Yep maybe as a payback for tuning them, they have the kings/queens to defend and protect them when any rider attack them.

[pipoy22]

Yep maybe as a payback for tuning them, they have the kings/queens to defend and protect them when any rider attack them.

It's really not payback its more like obligation to protect TTT.

[BlackCat]

well it seems like a good idea to me to not pick
a side , but it also mean they may become enemys to both sides, but being tuners of the regalia is there way of not geting bad blood with eather side

[tekkadark]

@tekkadark: I think so that Kogarasumaru would have the full support from the Toul Tool To members once Kururu joins Kogarasumaru but I may be wrong...

@epistle: Read trick 171. Kururu asked Ikki if she could ever join him. She got paniced (and made a one or so long row of ATs) and Ikki accepts her offer. So that means that she joined Ikki's team. She was worried about this decision made by her since it means that Toul Tool To team has sided with Kogarasumaru as she is the head of the Kogarasumaru (as said by Kanon during his visit at Kigashi High).


it would make alot of sense since kururu is hte pledge queen and Ikki's tuner (sorta) but i think that might definatly up sent the "laws of neutrality" if kururu used ALL of TTT's resouces to help Koga

@BlackCat- i think its more than that, i think it has to do with cohesion within TTT itself. because the tuners aren't actually part of hte king's teams (are they?), so that way they are neutrual in that a tuner maybe tuner to a king, but they can also tune other people as needed, but the tuning of the king comes first.

[BlackCat]

well About Kururu i don't belives shes totally into the laws of neutrailiy considering by giving aid to Those white wolves or whatever there name is shes not only aiding a group not containing a king but also shes aiding the whole of koga to get better. since "white wolves" is not a major part of the part wars i guess thats fine heh im not sure

[DeadEnd]

Screw it completely. Forget everything.

I missed it. I just finally picked it up myself.

Tool Toul To's neutrality clause is pretty simply stated.

-Between two opposing forces, once one team proves they are stronger... they will destroy the weaker group.

Read it from Ine: Volume 18, Chapter 157, page 13.

[BlackCat]

fine have it ur way im still all for Tool Toul To ^^

[DeadEnd]

Sorry about that. XD. I was just excited that I found that on a random 3rd reading.

[zxcvbn]

Screw it completely. Forget everything.

I missed it. I just finally picked it up myself.

Tool Toul To's neutrality clause is pretty simply stated.

-Between two opposing forces, once one team proves they are stronger... they will destroy the weaker group.

Read it from Ine: Volume 18, Chapter 157, page 13.

So? They're stll not supposed to take sides. That weaker team may still attack and destroy TTT before they themselves get beaten.

[penguinism]

god for the nth time now:
theyre only neutral in the fight for the sky regalia, THATS IT! beyond that, nothing else matters in the AT world that anybody would be stupid enough to attack TTT over

[grahf]

god for the nth time now:
theyre only neutral in the fight for the sky regalia, THATS IT! beyond that, nothing else matters in the AT world that anybody would be stupid enough to attack TTT over

You might want to Red, size and Bold that post. Then again some still won't get it.

[chrono]

god for the nth time now:
theyre only neutral in the fight for the sky regalia, THATS IT! beyond that, nothing else matters in the AT world that anybody would be stupid enough to attack TTT over

No they are not. They were/are Sleeping Forests lap dog and now that Kuu is the queen they are Koga's lap dog. And ANYTIME you work for another team over another than you are not neutral.

TTT's neutrality is a fluid as the leaders feelings.

[grahf]

since when where they Sleeping forest's lap dogs?

[penguinism]

No they are not. They were/are Sleeping Forests lap dog and now that Kuu is the queen they are Koga's lap dog. And ANYTIME you work for another team over another than you are not neutral.

TTT's neutrality is a fluid as the leaders feelings.
:rofl: that makes me laugh

Kuu is queen? Kuu? really? Kuu?....Kuu is the bird that lives in ikki's hair............

how are they SF's lapdogs? spitfire had a tuner in TTT and he was part of genesis, same with Nue, and they made the wind regalia for ikki when he was a part of genesis, then theres the whole plot with training ikki TTT made with genesis, then theres yoshitsune im sure he has a tuner in TTT and hes in genesis

now lets look at SF...ringo has a tuner in TTT, they brought ikki to SF but only so ikki could meet kilik and see where the sleepnig forest actually IS

i dont see how TTT ever favored SF OR Genesis, feel free to elaborate, but as of right now u just look like someone who hasn't read the manga...

its true right now people are favoring ikki, but really not that much...they arent really taking his SIDE, kururu took ikki's side cuz shes his tuner but the whole of TTT hasn't taken his side, im not seeing 100+ tuenrs following around koga helping them, just kururu, and the only other help koga is getting is the old pledge queen is helping to delay the tropheum tower, which also helps genesis AND SF too

TTT has maintained its neutrality cuz its helped all sides equally:

genesis wanted time to train ikki, so TTT's hospital held ikki there with an "injured knee"
SF wanted to meet ikki, TTT brought ikki to sleeping forest
Koga wanted more time to train, TTT is currently trying to slow down the time tropheum will open, which in turn gave SF and genesis more time to train and get ready too


all are helped equally as far as the sky regalia is concerned, its not like TTT is refusing to help anybody

[zxcvbn]

:rofl: that makes me laugh

Kuu is queen? Kuu? really? Kuu?....Kuu is the bird that lives in ikki's hair............
She was referring to Kururu, which I'm sure you already know.
And now to debunk your arguments.


genesis wanted time to train ikki, so TTT's hospital held ikki there with an "injured knee"
The hospital was owned not by TTT but by Ine Makigami's father, and she was probably doing a favour to Spitfire, a member of Genesis.


SF wanted to meet ikki, TTT brought ikki to sleeping forest

Knowing fully well that Ikki would be in grave danger if placed in SF's mercy? Ine even made a fake promise that nothhing would happen to him, and later Kilik revealed his intention to cripple Ikki if the latter didn't pass his little 'test'(to see if he was 'worthy' of joining SF). In this case TTT was clearly on SF's side. This entire part made my blood boil.


Koga wanted more time to train, TTT is currently trying to slow down the time tropheum will open, which in turn gave SF and genesis more time to train and get ready too


Ine's the one trying to slow down the time trophaeum, and once again only for spitfire's sake(he wanted Ikki to succeed, and the only thing he couldn't give Koga was time).

The fact is, at various times TTT has showed disproportionate support for one side of the other. The only real neutrality they've shown is between SF and Genesis for the trophaeum conflict.

[grahf]

The hospital was owned not by TTT but by Ine Makigami's father, and she was probably doing a favour to Spitfire, a member of Genesis.


Knowing fully well that Ikki would be in grave danger if placed in SF's mercy? Ine even made a fake promise that nothhing would happen to him, and later Kilik revealed his intention to cripple Ikki if the latter didn't pass his little 'test'(to see if he was 'worthy' of joining SF). In this case TTT was clearly on SF's side. This entire part made my blood boil.

The fact is, at various times TTT has showed disproportionate support for one side of the other. The only real neutrality they've shown is between SF and Genesis for the trophaeum conflict.

1. It might not have been owned by TTT but it was run by TTT. Which also harbored Sora in the same facility. So I guess they were on Sora's side as well.

2. You're making the assumption that she had brought them down there with Kilik know his intentions. Also what does SF gain by bringing him down there anyway? He has no regala or AT at his disposal at that moment. that was fresh off of Ikki and Ringo's battle. Kilik can talk all he wants but who is the crazy apple? Plus Ine did break her promise since Ikki's spirit did get broken by Sora. So one more reason for TTT to be with the Takeuchi brothers.

3. Is that what penguinism has been saying? The trophaeum conflict is for who will rule the tower and for the sky regala?


We can assume what we want and strech things how we want. But what have is that TTT continues to tune for various teams kings and help other Storm Riders improve. If doesn't show that they aren 't on one side I don't know what does.

[penguinism]

god for the nth time now:
theyre only neutral in the fight for the sky regalia, THATS IT! beyond that, nothing else matters in the AT world that anybody would be stupid enough to attack TTT over

The fact is, at various times TTT has showed disproportionate support for one side of the other. The only real neutrality they've shown is between SF and Genesis for the trophaeum conflict.

i wish people even bothered to read

[pipoy22]

i wish people even bothered to read

I agree with you on that one..

[Karshu]

Okay, I didn't go ahead and check what everyone else said, but this is just a simple answer to the original question.

TTT is neutral, not that one team will not side with one or the other, but that they will help either side when the time comes. TTT are mechanics. They won't care if you're from SF or Genesis. If you come to them, they will help.

Kanon is Ringo's Tuner, and Ringo is in SF.
A few of the kings, such as Spitfire and the Thunder King are part of Genesis, or they were. (Since things have changed with Sora and Nike's return.)

TTT does not side with one, or pick a side. They just help both sides.

Neutrality does not simply mean "We won't attack either side and they won't attack us". It simply means they won't pick a side, letting them HELP BOTH SIDES. It is their duty not to judge, but aid anyone that comes to them, be they from Sleeping Forest OR Genesis.

The individuals of TTT may pick a side, since it's hard to remain neutral when you're responsible for one rider.

Examples:
Kanon is Ringo's Tuner, therefore he is naturally on Ringo or Sleeping Forest's side.
Kururu is Ikki's Tuner, therefore she is naturally on Ikki's side. (excluding the current battle with the White Wolves Clan)
The Old Lady with the Spiral hair, was Spitfire's tuner, therefore she was naturally on Spitfire's side.

[takumi2004]

TTT helps everyone but has an obligation to give the best service to Kings and i think thats why ringo and nue have their very own tuner

[Karshu]

TTT helps everyone but has an obligation to give the best service to Kings and i think thats why ringo and nue have their very own tuner

Probably. After all, regalias need extra special care, and not just any kind of tune-up.