View Full Version : 8/9 kings which is it
kajenravi
07-25-2007, 04:00 PM
well how many roads r there ppl say thet ther will be a 9th 1 were the old grams gives him one which is called the hurricane road adn which he will be king so im stil confused bout it :confused:
busha
07-25-2007, 06:28 PM
yea the old man from the air treck shop gives it to him in chapter 169
yea my bad i forget about spoiler tags i put em in
AngelMayLaugh
07-25-2007, 06:39 PM
SPOILERS!! use the ;) box.
Thunderlord
07-26-2007, 05:12 AM
The known roads and their uses
1) Wing Road - Sora Takeuchi
2) Flame Road - Spitfire
3) Over Road - Yoshitsune
4) Sonia Road - Ringo
5) Bloody Road - Agito
6) Rising Road - Nue
7) Jade Road - Nike (Sora)
8) Ring Road - Ine Makigami
9) Gaia - Kilik
10) Lather - Om
11) Hurricane Road - Ikki
12) Appollo - Aeon
13) Smell - Onigiri
Saiha
07-26-2007, 05:20 AM
WHAT! so theres many roads? which one do you all think would be the strongest? but the road of the kings is only 8 right? I'm confused...
Thunderlord
07-26-2007, 06:18 AM
Though their can be many roads, a king will only be recognized if he or she has a regalia.
Saiha
07-26-2007, 06:28 AM
So theres a possibility that for ex. kilik can make a regalia for the other roads?
bearbear
07-26-2007, 07:40 AM
Apparently all the Gravity Children are potentially "Kings', but why there are only 8 is because that's all that came back to the research center.
In reality there are alot more than 8.
Saiha
07-26-2007, 07:43 AM
WHOA!:eek:thats is so cool!!! what if onigiri became a king I wonder what type of power or ability his regalia would be.. lol
keshies
07-26-2007, 08:04 AM
was agito/akito part of the original members of the sleeping forest? cos he said he had been there b4
AngelMayLaugh
07-26-2007, 08:38 AM
was agito/akito part of the original members of the sleeping forest? cos he said he had been there b4
No, he wasn't apart of SF. They had a different Fang King.
was agito/akito part of the original members of the sleeping forest? cos he said he had been there b4
Good Question. And what's the Over road? lol
Saiha
07-26-2007, 08:51 AM
yeah i was wondering as well what is the over road?
AngelMayLaugh
07-26-2007, 08:56 AM
Rumble King uses Over Road
Rumble King uses Over Road
Rumble King, Rumble King.. bleh, doesn't ring any bells (CURSE MY MEMORY), going to backread some <3
AngelMayLaugh
07-26-2007, 09:00 AM
Yoshitsune...-__-
Yoshitsune...-__-
Nope, didn't help either, I think this is what I get when I don't properly take in what i'm reading. I can't help but read quickly when I'm addicted to a new manga and realise there is like 200 chapters still to read.
AngelMayLaugh
07-26-2007, 09:15 AM
Devils Jump? Leader of Trident? Not the gum...
Devils Jump? Leader of Trident? Not the gum...
OOH YEAH. The skinny guy with the windmill theory. and smokes. baka, someone should tell him smoking is bad for him, mmmkay? Thanks for the tips-up, Angel. ;)
AngelMayLaugh
07-26-2007, 09:17 AM
No problem, A-Rank rider.
busha
07-26-2007, 01:28 PM
was agito/akito part of the original members of the sleeping forest? cos he said he had been there b4
in the raws its reviled and i think in older chapters too that agito is akitos tuner so he would have been there before cause he said agito was terrified akito didnt know what it was
what i find most confusing is the roads...there can be many roads that leads to one king... well..if i'm not wrong still.. XD
Landruce
07-26-2007, 09:32 PM
The thing I've noticed is that there's alot of roads that don't have regalia, which begs the question, what happens if they get the title of king??? what at will they use???
Apocalypse32
07-27-2007, 04:16 AM
The thing I've noticed is that there's alot of roads that don't have regalia, which begs the question, what happens if they get the title of king??? what at will they use???
Just standard AT's unless they get someone from TTT to make them a Regalia....
Then again unless you have regalia you're not considered a king by anyone that matters.
kinneth
07-27-2007, 05:03 AM
in the raws its reviled and i think in older chapters too that agito is akitos tuner so he would have been there before cause he said agito was terrified akito didnt know what it was
What chapter in the raws is this? Because .. how could Agito be Akito's tuner, if they share the same body? Confusinggg.
penguinism
07-27-2007, 05:31 AM
So theres a possibility that for ex. kilik can make a regalia for the other roads?
what he meant was that there can be as many roads as there are people, roads are simply ur goal for riding more or less...but u cant be a "king" unless u have a regalia to represent that road
for example, agito is the king of the blood road cuz he has the fang regalia...it puts him at the top of the food chain for the blood road
Parina
07-27-2007, 07:57 AM
first of all how the hell do you use spoiler boxes?
i can't find it in the border (is it the right word ??) with the icons?!
sorry guys XD
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huh? ikki has the hurricane road? i thought he had the wind road...
or wait... is it shown in the manga when he fought against ringo? that road with the skulls and such?! sorry, i can't remember...
but then again... isn't the hurricane road not similar to the wind road?
would that mean, that the sky regalia can be used for both??
eeeekkk, so many questions @_@
first of all how the hell do you use spoiler boxes?
i can't find it in the border (is it the right word ??) with the icons?!
sorry guys XD
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huh? ikki has the hurricane road? i thought he had the wind road...
or wait... is it shown in the manga when he fought against ringo? that road with the skulls and such?! sorry, i can't remember...
but then again... isn't the hurricane road not similar to the wind road?
would that mean, that the sky regalia can be used for both??
eeeekkk, so many questions @_@
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stealth
07-27-2007, 10:02 AM
What chapter in the raws is this? Because .. how could Agito be Akito's tuner, if they share the same body? Confusinggg.
because akito and agito share the same body agito is the ATer and akito is the tuner, which makes sense since tuners use their own body as sensors to understand the rider's body completely and tune the regalia according to the rider's body. akito shares agito's body so basically akito knows everything he/she? needs to know about agito to tune the regalia for him. And since they can be considered two different people its just the rider and the tuner in one whole body
that was long...
kinneth
07-27-2007, 03:44 PM
because akito and agito share the same body agito is the ATer and akito is the tuner, which makes sense since tuners use their own body as sensors to understand the rider's body completely and tune the regalia according to the rider's body. akito shares agito's body so basically akito knows everything he/she? needs to know about agito to tune the regalia for him. And since they can be considered two different people its just the rider and the tuner in one whole body
that was long...
OHOHOHOH. I understand now.
But earlier in the story, Akito tells Ikki that he used to be the Fang King before Agito, so did Agito tune Akito back then? :O
krompt
07-27-2007, 03:47 PM
OHOHOHOH. I understand now.
But earlier in the story, Akito tells Ikki that he used to be the Fang King before Agito, so did Agito tune Akito back then? :O
He probably had a tuner that applied to his personality, but when he got a split personality the tuner retired or something >.>
Seijuro
07-27-2007, 04:05 PM
I seem to remember earlier in the manga maybe in the first 100. They explaining the whole thing of kings and roads. Like how every rider has their own road. and how all ride the road to perfection but it is only the 8 kings that ride the purest forms of the wind and how they are the only one with the right to compete for sky king and as we now know the sky regalia. Like theoretically Smell road could try to become a king but it ultimately comes down to those who can use the regalia and the roads they ride. AT are customizable so im sure some people just have good AT over actually have regalia like the water lady. Wasnt those just reguler AT well above regular but you get the point.
I seem to remember earlier in the manga maybe in the first 100. They explaining the whole thing of kings and roads. Like how every rider has their own road. and how all ride the road to perfection but it is only the 8 kings that ride the purest forms of the wind and how they are the only one with the right to compete for sky king and as we now know the sky regalia. Like theoretically Smell road could try to become a king but it ultimately comes down to those who can use the regalia and the roads they ride. AT are customizable so im sure some people just have good AT over actually have regalia like the water lady. Wasnt those just reguler AT well above regular but you get the point.
Yeah, I get your point. Who knows though, the 8 kings were the 8 kings because they returned to the research lab out of the original gravity children. Could more, we just don't know.
kinneth
07-27-2007, 04:15 PM
He probably had a tuner that applied to his personality, but when he got a split personality the tuner retired or something >.>
Mmm. Understandable.
Tuner!Akito would be so adorable ..
Saiha
07-28-2007, 01:24 AM
Oh now I get it... hmmmm. thats deep..
Seijuro
07-28-2007, 02:45 AM
I think agito tuner died by the bloody road and spawned a split personality within himself to cover the sadness and emptiness in his heart. One personality is a guy the other is a girl.
Wow. That would make sense though, to have Agito/Akito as tuner/rider.
Parina
07-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Thanks Ray ^-^
but i'm not gonna edit my post XD
kinneth
07-29-2007, 02:04 AM
I think agito tuner died by the bloody road and spawned a split personality within himself to cover the sadness and emptiness in his heart. One personality is a guy the other is a girl.
How would he die .. ? o A o
dunathan
07-30-2007, 03:28 AM
How would he die .. ? o A o
Maybe there both guys and one is...that way
Satralis
07-31-2007, 03:47 AM
U have interesting ways...
But i have a good question (i think)... Agito/Akito was living with his brother (in a cage :D) until Ikki got him out and took him in... than who the hell could tune him?
Maybe Akito couldnt bare that hes a spy for his brother and a king too so his personality split... does this sound logical? ne?
U have interesting ways...
But i have a good question (i think)... Agito/Akito was living with his brother (in a cage :D) until Ikki got him out and took him in... than who the hell could tune him?
Maybe Akito couldnt bare that hes a spy for his brother and a king too so his personality split... does this sound logical? ne?
Good points, I just always thought they had this kind of brother/sister bonding. But it's just a split personality. But I mean, when tuning, don't they do, stuff-ish? So if it were Agito/Akito tuning themselves, it just looks like he's -ahem-'ing with himself? :eek:
Satralis
07-31-2007, 03:57 AM
I dunno about the stuff-ish stuff...(ok im already past 18 so i do understand :D) but when Nue got tuned he was like "just hurry up and finish it already"...saying that while being throughoutly "checked" is a bit...rough,stupid is that an idiot??!!!
it just looks like he's -ahem-'ing with himself?
ahm... it should be okay leaving the skin-scan out i think... i hope
I dunno about the stuff-ish stuff...(ok im already past 18 so i do understand :D) but when Nue got tuned he was like "just hurry up and finish it already"...saying that while being throughoutly "checked" is a bit...rough,stupid is that an idiot??!!!
I don't think it was rough. Either he was tiny + embaressed (Hehehehehehe) or he just didn't like the tuner he had (This one, more likely). TTT usually supply a tuner if the king doesn't have anyone close to them that is worthy of becoming a tuner.
Thunderlord
07-31-2007, 04:07 AM
Akito is the Tuner and younger brother of the "shinjuku Crocodile"
Agito is Akito's dark side (split personality) and Fang King
Akito is the Tuner and younger brother of the "shinjuku Crocodile"
Agito is Akito's dark side (split personality) and Fang King
Didn't Agito mention before that Akito use to be the Fang King, once upon a time?
Satralis
07-31-2007, 04:15 AM
Yea i think it too! It was Akito who was the first to become the fang king but than for some reason he split and Agito came to take the brutal part of the jobs :D...
by Ray:
I don't think it was rough. Either he was tiny + embaressed (Hehehehehehe) or he just didn't like the tuner he had (This one, more likely). TTT usually supply a tuner if the king doesn't have anyone close to them that is worthy of becoming a tuner.
I dont think he hated her... and if he did... than hes an idiot (:D)... later they got gabishi right? and they were a good pair i think, since for Nue to be able to use the regalia at full power he needs his tuner too... hes speacial in that aspect since he depends more on her.
Thunderlord
07-31-2007, 04:36 AM
Didn't Agito mention before that Akito use to be the Fang King, once upon a time?
Akito was the fang King. He created Agito in desperation upon realizing that his brother was taking away his freedom, and using him for violent purposes.
penguinism
07-31-2007, 05:01 AM
Akito was the fang King. He created Agito in desperation upon realizing that his brother was taking away his freedom, and using him for violent purposes.
wasnt it he created agito after something happened when he went to tropheum? =o then from that point on his brother used agito for his own purpose
Satralis
07-31-2007, 08:41 AM
As far as i know, his brother used to train him in the first place way before he became the fang king... so it wasnt because of his brother that he split personality i think...
krompt
07-31-2007, 08:42 AM
Well he sadi it was becasue he could not handle the things his brother forced him to do, so he made akito to do it for him:confused:
Satralis
07-31-2007, 08:48 AM
Than im confused...really...
so based on this he was trained as a rider, got the fang regalia with his bloody road (no brutality-no split personality...) and after all that he split his personality cause he couldnt bare it anymore... i think there should be a more specific reason like...he saw the AT shops seller nude O_O *tries to not imagine it*
krompt
07-31-2007, 08:55 AM
O__O
Well definetly nothing that tradgic, but it is becuase his brother forced him to kill people and stuff fr the police force XP
Satralis
07-31-2007, 09:17 AM
Than how did he became the fang king before split his personality...and to become the fang king he must have some bloody experience...
krompt
07-31-2007, 09:29 AM
I guess he was all Fang King like when he got the regelia but got a split personality XD
Satralis
07-31-2007, 09:35 AM
Or once his fang got reflected from a wall and split his personality :D
stealth
07-31-2007, 09:36 AM
Than how did he became the fang king before split his personality...and to become the fang king he must have some bloody experience...
it doesn't necessarily have to be bloody..i mean..all you have to do to go up in the AT world is to win battles. most of them aren't to the death or violent battles, just racing or tricks. if he had enough skills he could've become the fang king without having to kill anyone.
also, agito/akito is pretty tight with his brother. the only reason that his brother was so harsh to him was because agito/akito didn't want any more to do with the police force thing, but that was like desertion of the army, and there was some kinda order from higher ups to arrest agito/akito or court marshall him. because akira (behemoth) became a G-man again the court marshall was taken off. apparently agito/akito's brother is a 'duty-first' man, but that doesn't mean he didn't love his little brother (agito/akito)
krompt
07-31-2007, 09:39 AM
Yeah he tries to cover it up with lies, but he really does love Akito/Agito XP
Satralis
07-31-2007, 09:45 AM
by stealth:
it doesn't necessarily have to be bloody..i mean..all you have to do to go up in the AT world is to win battles. most of them aren't to the death or violent battles, just racing or tricks. if he had enough skills he could've become the fang king without having to kill anyone.
His road is about carving his path on the opponenet...it has to be painful since its the meaning so... but its true that doesnt necesseraly means the death of others.
by krompt:
Yeah he tries to cover it up with lies, but he really does love Akito/Agito XP
yea i know... it clearly appears when they get on the car of his brother for Akitos stuff...
krompt
07-31-2007, 09:53 AM
Yeah and
In recent raw chapters he lets Kazu go after he finds him in the wreckage after the Sora brothers v.s. Spit&Aeon XP
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:01 AM
yeah and he says the same crap about not being able to use him :D
krompt
07-31-2007, 10:04 AM
Well ofcourse he would use an excuse, he always does XD
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:08 AM
ahmmm...how far did we get from the original topic of this thread???
well about alliances:its a real since Ikki declared war on both genesis and SF, and the trident will side with genesis it is quite possible that Koga has no allies atm...
krompt
07-31-2007, 10:10 AM
yeah that is what i'm thinking, so they are going to have to stick it out, but like i stated before they have three kings on their team, they definetly have potential to survive on their own.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:14 AM
yeah they have 3 kings but Kazu is not even close to be a real king, Agito is not as strong as Akito once was (a possible reunion of the two minds would create the most powerful AT rider prolly) and the only one left has no regalia as of now... not the best odds
krompt
07-31-2007, 10:18 AM
Yes but Kazu is very dedicated and can become a King very easily, Akito can gain more power by completely removing the eyepatch (it was done before), and Ikki has been crisined the Storm King meaning he has to atleast be at a kings level. And seriously Genesis lost their Gem and Flame king so their not doing much better either XP
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:23 AM
wow these spoiler boxes are surely useful... i can imagine the one who doesnt want spoilers reading this thread now :D
well its true that they all have the potential, but Kazu will have to face with the same Soras who killed Spitfire with a single shoot from the bagram... and his nowhere around Spitfire in skills... only Ikki could do something if he isnt beaten by SF before that :D
krompt
07-31-2007, 10:26 AM
wow these spoiler boxes are surely useful... i can imagine the one who doesnt want spoilers reading this thread now :D
well its true that they all have the potential, but Kazu will have to face with the same Soras who killed Spitfire with a single shoot from the bagram... and his nowhere around Spitfire in skills... only Ikki could do something if he isnt beaten by SF before that :D
Yes so there has to be room for them to grow and become stronger, atleast we know the AG manga won't be ending anytime soon XD.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:28 AM
well i heared that actually it is nearin its end... at least if we consider that the grand scale is the big finale than after that its over... the current chapters are like fillers in an anime...
dunathan
07-31-2007, 10:29 AM
It better be a good ending then.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:34 AM
well prolly some nice ending with everyone getting together, Ikki understanding the truth of freedom salvates the whole world and becomes the greatest AT user who only rides for himself bla bla bla...
dunathan
07-31-2007, 10:35 AM
That's not a good ending. A good ending is where everyone dies from a nuclear explosion.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 10:38 AM
O i c...
Well thats another conclusion of the story... at least it would have a uniqe ending and a special meaning to it like... "wtf! ur killing each other for two damn wheels for some stupid skate??!! why dont u just die??!!" or sg like that... nah that wont happen.
But it would be nice if the volcano would errupt in the middle of the grand scale and everybody would vanish along with the sky regalia.
krompt
07-31-2007, 11:19 AM
Yeah i hope it doesn't end to soon, they still have to have the Gram scale tournemant and hopefully they will introduce a few new teams and have another arc for the tournemant XD
Satralis
07-31-2007, 11:26 AM
Well what im hoping for is that there wont be a skipping like when Koga was levelling up in the ranks...
I would appritiate an interesting and well drawn battle among all the teams that participate in teh gram scale.
Satralis
07-31-2007, 12:47 PM
nope, it started with the 1st chapter...and now its the 172.
Well maybe it will go on after the grand scale but they are already so demi-godlike that they could devastate the whole city in an hour...
Parina
07-31-2007, 12:48 PM
That's not a good ending. A good ending is where everyone dies from a nuclear explosion.
:eek:
How mean ~
the ending should be like this...
errr.... actually there will not be an ending!!! long live AG!!!!!!!!
krompt
07-31-2007, 01:25 PM
the ending should be like this...
errr.... actually there will not be an ending!!! long live AG!!!!!!!!
*Hi-5* exactly what i think XD
krompt
07-31-2007, 05:56 PM
how about......Oh Great's hyperforce of immortal Air Gear Supporters Xd
Thats all i got:p
keshies
08-06-2007, 05:04 AM
in the raws its reviled and i think in older chapters too that agito is akitos tuner so he would have been there before cause he said agito was terrified akito didnt know what it was
thanks for the help, i'd go read those chapters again
wsnnwa
08-07-2007, 10:19 AM
Yo...im new here but this is what i think AG should include......they should add teams from other parts of the world....since its not only japan people skating.....and im sure there are 10's if not 100's of other kings in the whole world.
Satralis
08-07-2007, 10:36 AM
that would sound reasonable... but considering that there isnt that much tower i would say only for AT users are that many...considering kings (with real regalias) are much less since we dont know wether there are any towers in America or Europa (or any other continent)
megami_yume
08-07-2007, 12:14 PM
can't read anymore previous messages >_<
too many spoilers -_-
well, my understanding bout the kings and roads is this:
there can be as many roads as there are riders but there will only be 8 kings,
[or is the sky king 9th? havent' cleared that up]
which have a regalia each...
there are only 8 kings since [apparently for now] there are only 8 roads which makes full use of the wind [to fly] or sumthin' like that...
it was discussed in one chapter... i can't remember which...
maybe i'll re-read too...:p
Bound
08-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Can anyone explain to me how...
Ikki rides the Hurrican Road? How is it any different from the Wing Road, and why did he change Roads? Does this also mean both Roads share the same Regalia? Because both Ikki and Sora use Bagram.
playsafe
08-07-2007, 02:05 PM
Probably the Hurricane Road is one of the "closer" roads of the wind. Hurricane is hot wind and cold wind so that probably symbolizes ikki's great destiny. Rofls. Hurricane needs wind, heat, pressure and other stuff, so i believe Ikki will need Sora's?, Kazu's, the rumble dude, and other roads to make the sky available to anyone.
My theory.
megami_yume
08-07-2007, 03:10 PM
That's deep...
reasonable though...
when you consider what AT's were designed for...
kajenravi
08-08-2007, 01:07 PM
yea the old man from the air treck shop gives it to him in chapter 169
yea my bad i forget about spoiler tags i put em in
how the hell do u do spoiler boxes??? tell me plz:'(
penguinism
08-08-2007, 01:27 PM
how the hell do u do spoiler boxes??? tell me plz:'(
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without the .
Katsuomori
08-19-2007, 02:00 AM
There are many kings and many roads though there are some roads that do not need kings or regelias. But the comic pays it's attention on the original 8 which have connection to the Infinate Atmosphere. There are some other kings as well created and gathered by Kilik to go against the original 8 members (8 original kings) of the Sleeping Forest.
I'm not too sure about this but I've heard that Ikki will be having a new title since Sora have no intention of giving away his title as the Wind King (plus he's using the wind regelia, the Moondrop Bangram on his bionic legs). That old man (the headmaster) bestowed to him a new title which is the Storm King of the Hurricane Road. I'm not to sure about it's ability but it seems to be coming true from how far I've read it (I'm not too sure about the name itself) in perhaps 2 or so Tricks after Trick 168.
Thunderlord
08-19-2007, 02:49 AM
Ikkis' going get his own regalia made by kururu. That was the wake up call from Akito, if he wanted to fly higher
kurt20
08-19-2007, 03:58 AM
i hope hako will not use the stunt gun to kururu
lightning90
08-19-2007, 04:40 AM
Akito is the Tuner and younger brother of the "shinjuku Crocodile"
Agito is Akito's dark side (split personality) and Fang King
this maybe wrong but from what i read:
akito the real rider and real fang king but when akira turned his back on him and he discovered his brother intention, he freaked, then agito came to ride for him.
maybe it's wrong, but i just post what i read.
Katsuomori
08-19-2007, 12:36 PM
If Kururu is making that new regelia for Ikki... will she have to... well, like most tuners do? Ringo and Simca is gonna be jealous lol.
As for Kazu... will he have Emily as his tuner? I wonder...
Please explain what tuners "do"
godslafco
08-20-2007, 04:58 AM
Tuners keep the Regalia in "tune" with the king using the regalia. Each regalia was originally made for the gravity children, and since the regalia spread, norms are using a few regalia as well. It's like tuning a turbo booster for a stock Honda Civic engine after it's been taken from a Porche 911.
smoosh
08-20-2007, 05:06 AM
tuners are just basically the most impt thing for the kings/queens...they are good with their hands and for some reason all really hot :D cant believe i just said that XDDD
Thunderlord
08-20-2007, 07:17 AM
tuners are just basically the most impt thing for the kings/queens...they are good with their hands and for some reason all really hot :D cant believe i just said that XDDD
Akito is also a tuner...
smoosh
08-20-2007, 09:19 AM
ohh yes with the exception of him?? hahas but he is annoying cute?:D
Katsuomori
08-20-2007, 12:25 PM
It's kinda cool to know that the tuners have an ability to be able to count the time passed even a tiny count of seconds accurately for quite a long time. They tune based on sounds... I can't remember what's they called it. Every kings have their tuners to tune their ATs using a suit. (which looks transparent from the outside) I don't know how I should explain about the importance of tuning but it seems to be very important for those kings as well. Tool Toul To is the only group that are neutral and don't take sides but to serve the kings and perhaps riders as well.
About Akito... he's did that cool trick with Ikki when against Akira (Agito disappeared somehow).
chrono
08-20-2007, 07:49 PM
As for Kazu... will he have Emily as his tuner? I wonder...
Oh boy is someone gonna be ticked!! 2 friends dealing with something like this... oh boy...
As for Kazu... will he have Emily as his tuner? I wonder...
i doubt it i think tuners have to be skilled and have alot of practice or sumthing
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 02:40 PM
If you look at the fact that agito is akito tuner (and the reverse too) and he got no experience in the 'tool toul to' then we can believe that emily could be the kazu's tuner.
But she got no experience in anything up till now... even in AT's she's just an amateur and almost can't climb a wall.
Well... There's still some road to kazu get to the level of a king and she could do something in this timeline.
Thunderlord
08-24-2007, 02:55 PM
The former flame tuner is still around though
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 03:18 PM
That's right.
But even nowadays she wasn't spitfire's tuner anymore... or was?
It seems that from the day they got apart after the creation of genesis she wasn't his tuner anymore.
Well... putting that aside i think she is WAY too much for kazu...
IUhaiehaiuehaiueh
chrono
08-24-2007, 06:31 PM
If you look at the fact that agito is akito tuner (and the reverse too) and he got no experience in the 'tool toul to' then we can believe that emily could be the kazu's tuner.
But she got no experience in anything up till now... even in AT's she's just an amateur and almost can't climb a wall.
Well... There's still some road to kazu get to the level of a king and she could do something in this timeline.
Emily won't be the tuner. It'll be her friend.
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 10:03 PM
Most sure that you're right...
I probably would like to things between them continues like this anyway.
SHInoSHIkamaru
08-25-2007, 07:30 AM
The former flame tuner is still around though
Well I thought that Spitfire didn't have a tuner. Well it was Ine(former Pledge Queen before Kururu) at that time . But Spitfire stated that he didn't need a tuner.
imintheradio
08-25-2007, 11:59 AM
hi guys,i just started this manga last week,but now i'm so into it!..but so far i read vol.14,and knew this forum from friend..just cant wait to read more about it...
smoosh
08-25-2007, 12:09 PM
we warmly welcome you to the forums!~ have fun here too...
you are now one of the air gear fanatics :D
yea Spitfire didnt actually i have his own tuner i think. But i guess kazu would get his tuner sooner or later since he has the regalia. :p
imintheradio
08-25-2007, 03:22 PM
we warmly welcome you to the forums!~ have fun here too...
you are now one of the air gear fanatics :D
yea Spitfire didnt actually i have his own tuner i think. But i guess kazu would get his tuner sooner or later since he has the regalia. :p
thanks Smoosh!! what,Kazu has a regalia?well then, i really left so far behind!:eek:
zxcvbn
08-25-2007, 04:19 PM
Early on in the manga, it says that there are a total of eight Kings of the AT World, but in in following chapters there are ten Kings(not counting Ikki), all with Regalia of their own except the Pldege Queen.
Wind King
Flame king
Thunder King
Fang King
Thorn Queen
Rumble King
Pledge Queen
Gem King
Horn King
Water King
Did O!Great retcon his previous chapters to introduce more Kings? Or are some of these 'unofficial kings?' Or maybe some of the Regalia were built later?
penguinism
08-25-2007, 04:38 PM
horn king? whos that?
ill put this in spoiler tags, cuz its an up to date list from 171
wind king=sora
flame=kazu
thunder=the one guy cant remember his name
fang=agito
thorn=ringo
rumble=yoshi
pledge=kururu
gem/jade=nike
water=om
the thing is though i dont think they count pledge queen as one of the eight kings, when they refer to eight kings they were to a hierarchy(sp?) of the tropheum tower, the pledge queen is the queen of the tuners, a neutral party...so to say theyre one of the queens of the tropheum tower wouldnt make sense since she doesnt fight, nor does anyone fight her...on top of that u dont really get this title unless its appointed to u, unlike all the other king statuses u can fight for
so really i think there were always 9, og just purposely left out pledge in the count cuz no normal rider can achieve the title of pledge queen like u can any other title
also merging this with the other topic...
Raenef
08-25-2007, 04:47 PM
Wind King - Sora
Flame King - Spitfire -> to be announced.
Thunder King - Black Burn -> now Nue
Fang King - Farko -> Akira - Agito/Akito
Rumble King - Dontores -> Yo****une
Gem King - Kilik -> Nike
Thorn Queen - Rika -> Ringo
Pledge Queen - Ine -> Kururu
was the previously known 8 Kings(Queens)
Disbanding of the ex-Sleeping Forest brought about:
Water Queen - Om
Horn King - Gabishi
Pledge Queen is one of the Kings as far as I know. She plays the most important role of all the kings.
SHInoSHIkamaru
08-25-2007, 11:35 PM
Wind King - Sora
Flame King - Spitfire -> to be announced.
Thunder King - Black Burn -> now Nue
Fang King - Farko -> Akira - Agito/Akito
Rumble King - Dontores -> Yo****une
Gem King - Kilik -> Nike
Thorn Queen - Rika -> Ringo
Pledge Queen - Ine -> Kururu
was the previously known 8 Kings(Queens)
Disbanding of the ex-Sleeping Forest brought about:
Water Queen - Om
Horn King - Gabishi
Pledge Queen is one of the Kings as far as I know. She plays the most important role of all the kings.
I believe that Kazu is the new Flame King. If not then why would Aeon and Spitfire risk their life so that the Flame Regalia would be with it's new successor. And I don't know how you see that the Pledge Queen is the most important role?? The Pledge Queen is neutral. Isn't the most important King the Sky King?? Isn't that what Air Gear is about?? Trying to find the Sky King.
zxcvbn
08-25-2007, 11:54 PM
Wind King - Sora
Flame King - Spitfire -> to be announced.
Thunder King - Black Burn -> now Nue
Fang King - Farko -> Akira - Agito/Akito
Rumble King - Dontores -> Yo****une
Gem King - Kilik -> Nike
Thorn Queen - Rika -> Ringo
Pledge Queen - Ine -> Kururu
was the previously known 8 Kings(Queens)
Disbanding of the ex-Sleeping Forest brought about:
Water Queen - Om
Horn King - Gabishi
Pledge Queen is one of the Kings as far as I know. She plays the most important role of all the kings.
How did the Water Queen and Horn King come about? As the original Sleeping Forest maintained a stranglehold on Regalia from the Trophaeum Tower, it seems their Regalia orginated outside the Trophaeum Tower(maybe wherever the AT research is continuing).
Satralis
08-26-2007, 03:06 PM
Well basically we can see the young OM together with the early SF (when Killik was still there) so she could obtain a regalia there. And Killik mentioning that Rika was the first not-gravity kid in SF means that OM was a grav kid as the others...so the water queens leather (or sg like that) road is not an additional road i think... so its included in the original roads. The only road that came later was Rika and the Sonia road that made her the thorn queen. It is a funny turn of fate that the most powerful road in the tower wasnt originated in it... but that doesnt make it one of the 8 basic roads. This also means that OM is almost the only king that kept her title and regalia from the old SF.
Raenef
08-26-2007, 10:59 PM
Regalias are not obtained by means of conflict for gravity children. They are/were given the Regalias as they were...manufactured/produced/created..[w/e suits u the best-_ -;;]
-explains why they don't need tuning..
For Om and Gabishi, only the sheer fact that they are of gravity children explains how they have the regalia and the right to be a King. tho...the King/Queen idea must've came from the creation of SF.
Kazu isn't the flame king ... yet. Spitfire and Aeon merely believed Kazu had the abilities to succeed the title. In order for Kazu to claim the title, he needs to be recognized by the current Kings [of other roads] and be assigned a personal tuner to tune up Spit's regalia to suit himself.
mentioned in the manga:
there's no limited number of roads or kings.
there can be kings as they come - necessity: skill and authentic regalia and tuner
Rika claimed the Thorn Regalia from a person former-SF actually knew. which implies that Rika wons the Thorn Regalia from a gravity child.
Sky King does not even exist atm. It is Genesis..or rather, Simca and Sora bother's ambition to acquire the Sky Regalia and become Sky King. SF, under Kilik's command is trying their hardest to stop them.
Nike is the current Gem King. Kilik was the ex-Gem King. Nike is deemed undefeatable and the best/strongest King in the Genesis due to the fact that he has 2 regalia cores. 1 that he had as he is a gravity child, plus the one he won from Kilik. and yes, Kilik is not a King anymore.
Late entrance of Om and Gabishi could be explained from the fact that SF members were still looking for their gc buddies at the time quarrel broke out. Kilik prolly made desparate attempt to get in touch with the other gc.
Satralis
08-27-2007, 03:00 AM
There was once a time when all regalia was united...or something like that is said in the legend although nobody obtained the sky reg yet...
Rika didnt claim the Thorn qeen title, it was her own, and maybe later came the regalia but i dont remember reading about Rika obtaining her regalia from another SF member (maybe i forgot or sg...) Although i support the theory that every grav kid had one regalia and thats it but that would mean that OG miscalculated since there are more than 8 regalias and thats not mentioned.
I dunno about Nike having two regalias since usually one regalia stands for 2 wheels. But that may be right since he did recieve extra regs...well if he had them from the start that is...
SF didnt make any attempt to convince Nue and his little group to join them...and that party consists of gc only... also the late enterance was due to the fact that OM spied on Genesis and Gabishi...well he was just wandering around. And we still have 2 completely unknown SF members who we only saw wearing those lame masks that all yet unknown character has to wear :D
Raenef
08-27-2007, 09:28 AM
actually, Rika did not had the regalia from the start. Sora actually says that the regalia previously belonged to someone they knew - implies that the person was probably a gc.
no one is given the title from the start.
so how is it that u know that SF actually knew the whereabouts of Nue when they were recruiting? for all we[readers] know, it could happen that they just didn't know of a way to contact him.
Genesis didn't even exist when Om came about. so..Om spying on Genesis just doesn't fit.
Genesis was founded by Nike immediately after acquiring Kilik's regalia.
and....if u don't mind...shorten ur siggie..= o=;
Fredegart
08-27-2007, 01:26 PM
It's right...
Rika didn't have the reg since the beginning.
After taking place in sf she came to have the thorn regalia.
About Nue... As he said, Nue is with Genesis, cause Nike promised him that he would change things for the gc. Maybe sf tried to recruit him, but was unsuccessful.
The Nike part it's kinda complicated, cause when talk about Nike they say that Nike was just like a Sora's shadow and many ppl never heard nothing bout him till he gets kilik's reg. I don't think he was at that time like the others, otherwise if he had some reg it would have been 9 kings since the beginning.
Raenef
08-27-2007, 02:22 PM
actually, sora told kilik that she has the thorn regalia which once belonged to a person they knew. meaning she had the regalia before she entered SF
Fredegart
08-27-2007, 02:25 PM
actually, sora told kilik that she has the thorn regalia which once belonged to a person they knew. meaning she had the regalia before she entered SF
Really?
Sorry then...
I need to read that part again... cause i didn't remember that...
=)
Satralis
08-27-2007, 03:56 PM
Ok i will reread and check it but i accept it in advance that Rika earned it from someone else.
SF is the almighty group that finds everyone everywhere lol. Dont tell me it was hard to find a kid with a full armour around him.
Genesis was founded before Ikki started AT, the story starts around that time so we could still assume that OM was spiing on Genesis from the beginning cause we dont know anything about what the SF members did before the whole AG story began lol.
I like my siggies. And they are already shortened...i cant possibly make them shorter. ^^
Fredegart
08-27-2007, 04:26 PM
SF is the almighty group that finds everyone everywhere lol. Dont tell me it was hard to find a kid with a full armour around him.
lol for that...
almighty group...
And this is funny too... Why Nue is the only one with that full armor?
Makes Ikki jealous... Like that time when Kilik asked him about the sky regalia and he though on that robot... It was ridiculous... Still very funny.
Raenef
08-27-2007, 08:49 PM
this is what i assumed.
FORMER gravity children - children manufactured at the time of Kilik and Sora are given regalias.
New Genereation of gravity children - doesn't have regalias
first claim has been clearly stated in the manga.
second claim is the one i made because the new generation actually needs tuners while the old generation said they didn't need one. Nue needs a tuner and Ringo does too. more to come on this point but i think Nue's armor like regalia and his reign on the Thunder King throne came a little bit late for the exSF to recruit him. he is a new gen GD after all like Ringo...ok now im being repetitive....but ye...for me, that explains pretty much everything about the mystery of Nue.~ =]
rasenshuriken
09-02-2007, 06:39 AM
onigiri should totally be the 10th king. he could be the stink king, or the B.O. king:D
takumi2004
10-16-2007, 05:02 AM
i think another reason why nue needs a tuner is b/c hes still really young. his body is still maturing and like he said when he fought gabishi one month with out tuning screws him up. this might also be the reason for ringo needs a tuner as well.
remanzuo
10-16-2007, 08:32 AM
The known roads and their uses
1) Wing Road - Sora Takeuchi
2) Flame Road - Spitfire
3) Over Road - Yoshitsune
4) Sonia Road - Ringo
5) Bloody Road - Agito
6) Rising Road - Nue
7) Jade Road - Nike (Sora)
8) Ring Road - Ine Makigami
9) Gaia - Kilik
10) Lather - Om
11) Hurricane Road - Ikki
12) Appollo - Aeon
13) Smell - Onigiri
actually Aeon's Road is Flame Road
Apollo Road is a combination of Aeon n Spitfire ( Dual Flame Road )
Aeon used to be in the same team as spitfire
Aeon get pissed and left volcanic team for behemot
I forgot the main reason...but it should be between these two
1. Spitfire refuse him to be the successor of Flame King
OR
2. He can't surpass Spitfire to become the new Flame King
I don't know about gabhisi road , his road is still unknown ( ? )
and there are 2 more kings in the current sleeping forest that are still unknown
takumi2004
10-16-2007, 12:27 PM
on wikipedia they call gabishi the horn king but i dont know what chapter it is so it might be false but im pretty sure the road he rides is some variation of the bloody road seeing as how he likes to take the faces off people by riding on them.
Drakenking
10-16-2007, 01:02 PM
The Purpose of tuners are to keep a special balance between the skill of the Rider and the Quality of the AT's to get maximum performace. It uses a 4:4 format. the left side being AT's and the Right side being the rider. If the ratio is 4:2, the user will not get a good output from the AT's etc
HollowKing
10-16-2007, 04:48 PM
OMG SOO MANY ROADS I JUST CNT WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER!!!!! omg when is 180 gunna come out??? hehe
uranium
10-16-2007, 05:43 PM
later... now wait like the good leecher you are -_- XD
renegade0
10-16-2007, 08:57 PM
actually Aeon's Road is Flame Road
Apollo Road is a combination of Aeon n Spitfire ( Dual Flame Road )
Aeon used to be in the same team as spitfire
Aeon get pissed and left volcanic team for behemot
I forgot the main reason...but it should be between these two
1. Spitfire refuse him to be the successor of Flame King
OR
2. He can't surpass Spitfire to become the new Flame King
I don't know about gabhisi road , his road is still unknown ( ? )
and there are 2 more kings in the current sleeping forest that are still unknown
not sure about this, but Aeon said the fight get boring because the fight end too fast
remanzuo
10-17-2007, 03:42 PM
not sure about this, but Aeon said the fight get boring because the fight end too fast
this two pages from the previous chapter shows why Aeon left volcanic team
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/59/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/59/05/
looks like Aeon is jealous about Spitfire becoming the flame king
meringun
10-17-2007, 10:47 PM
i just want to say, ikki has the strongest road
renegade0
10-18-2007, 09:00 PM
Maybe you're right, but i stil don't know what's Hurricane Road... wikipedia said hurricane road allow the user to ride in different density of wind, or something like that
don't forget to join airgear.wikia.com! we really need more articles (4 article in wikia?)
takumi2004
10-18-2007, 10:44 PM
the hurricane road is a variation of the wing road.
on wikipedia they just copied the same thing they posted for the wing road which means for now its the same thing as the wing road but with a different name.
Hyuver
10-19-2007, 09:55 AM
the hurricane road is a variation of the wing road.
on wikipedia they just copied the same thing they posted for the wing road which means for now its the same thing as the wing road but with a different name.
Sadly the info on Wikipedia is not written by Oh!Great so it's not accurate :p
You know there is pretty much bullsh1t on the wiki page since anybody can write anything they want
MorningKarma
10-19-2007, 10:42 AM
The Wing road is too constricting for Ikki, so he ends up taking the mantle of the Hurricane road.
Katsuomori
10-19-2007, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't take wiki's info that seriously if I were you since yeah... it's accessable to many and thus can be edited by many. But I do think that the Hurricane road is more to an amplified version of the wing road since wing road is and yes it is constricting for Ikki. Perhaps something that might over turn Sora and the rest. Now I'm waiting for the next chap to see what the Hurricane Road could "really" do.
Parina
12-02-2007, 07:20 AM
omg this thread's old but I don't want to open one so~:
is the wind road the same as the wing road???
I'm confused a bit xD
omg this thread's old but I don't want to open one so~:
is the wind road the same as the wing road???
I'm confused a bit xD
There isnt a wind road, but there is a wind king, the road for the wind king is wing road.
so confuse XD...
Parina
12-02-2007, 08:05 AM
ah thank you Fran xD
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