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gcxhkg
08-25-2007, 12:35 PM
Do they have any chance together anymore or did that last story arc end it for them?

penguinism
08-25-2007, 04:41 PM
wont know til the end of this fight is over, they agreed to take seperate paths but they never really said they hate eachother...they both realize that at the moment theyre enemies til the tropheum period is over, so in order to stay on track and not get distracted theyve seperated themselves from eachother

but as said, who knows what will happen once this whole tropheum thing is over :p

pngo
08-25-2007, 06:32 PM
what he said ^

Soladrin
08-25-2007, 08:34 PM
im more concerned what happens during the trophaeum period ^^

Artemis
08-25-2007, 08:36 PM
I don't like ringo. >> I hope she dies.

Thunderlord
08-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Can't really say they are doneKanon treats ikki has his rival when it's to do with ringo

Chiisu
08-25-2007, 09:14 PM
I have feeling that there's gonna be some cheesy thing at the end where Ringo and Ikki go all out in battle and then somehow Ikki's gonna realize his "true feelings" and end up with Ringo right after the tournament, completely destroying Kururu.

Hopefully that doesn't happen since Kururu rulz

Soladrin
08-25-2007, 09:19 PM
mhm i think chiisu's right, but, honestly speaking, i dont like either, i hope in some twisted way he ends up with agito or nike :D

Artemis
08-25-2007, 09:21 PM
Alot of the creators of Manga and Anime usually have cliche endings like that. One of the reasons I end up hating it.

Soladrin
08-25-2007, 09:24 PM
ive got the perfect ending (to piss people off) for air gear! the trophaeum thingy starts, BLAM japan gets nuked because some prick decided to declare war, everyones dead, japan sinks, air gear's over :D

Chiisu
08-25-2007, 09:25 PM
ive got the perfect ending (to piss people off) for air gear! the trophaeum thingy starts, BLAM japan gets nuked because some prick decided to declare war, everyones dead, japan sinks, air gear's over :D


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Artemis
08-25-2007, 09:29 PM
That's a good ending imo.

Soladrin
08-25-2007, 09:30 PM
ok, make it America or Russia who launched the nuke, so it appeals to those conspiracy pricks too :D

Artemis
08-25-2007, 09:32 PM
How about you just show the nuke falling, so people can see a strange brand or sign on it, probably from some strange ancient culture or cult or group. Then they can start hunting for the origin. >>

SHInoSHIkamaru
08-25-2007, 11:03 PM
hahahahahaha, well that ending just sucks. America must go and save Japan so we can see the ending. hahahaha, well i don't know where the romance is heading in Air Gear. Right now Kururu is all Ikki has in his head. And in Trick 169 Mikan states that Ringo can no longer be his wings. So I believe that they are officially over. Either that or it's going to be a cheesy ending where Ikki and Ringo get together just as one of the earlier comments stated. Anywayz doesn't Ikki see their relationship as brother and sister??

midorika
08-25-2007, 11:19 PM
I would like Ikki to be with Ringo....
Not Kururu.... Hm...

Hyuver
08-26-2007, 04:28 AM
Well we haven't seen more about Ringo and Kanon so we can be sure, every king and it's tuner has a special relationship but so far for Ringo and Kanon seems not work that way, although Kanon is totally crazy for Ringo but Ringo seems doesn't care about Kanon maybe after she realize that Ikki is no longer belong to her, she will get a chance with Kanon :o

The with Ikki and Ringo is Ikki since the beginning never see her more than his friend/sister, even after Ringo kiss him it's still Kururu in his head(remember when the Onigiri ask him who he truly think about LoL).

Although I think they will make a good couple during the Kyoto arc but suddeny the mangaka introduce Kururu and make it clear somehow that Ikki are attracted to her and otherwise, since their meeting Ringo Screentime is slightly descreasing, the only moment she got the bigscreen since than is during her fight with Ikki.

BTW FYI even in Tenjou Tenge it seems like the male lead not going to end up with the female lead..

Parina
08-26-2007, 07:55 AM
I guess it's over x.x
(****.)

Although I hate OG for doing this, I think it's over.
They're just like bro and sis.
There's Kururu, and Ikki treats her different than Ringo.
He has some feelings for Kururu, so...
But... it can't be helped, ne? :D
Kururu's cute too x}

Satralis
08-26-2007, 02:14 PM
Well it wasnt so surprising cause if u think about it Ringo acted towards Ikki like Rika would have, like a caring mother/sister and not like a lover so that led to the situation shes in now. During the Kyoto arc we could see that no matter what Ringo does, Ikki will never see her as a woman (nice Kimono n such...all wasted cause Ikkis brain consists of ATs alone...and Kururu tunes those ATs :D). So everything goes perfectly ^^

BTW FYI even in Tenjou Tenge it seems like the male lead not going to end up with the female lead..
Yeah it seems so that no matter what she does Aya will never get close to him in that way...

Black Rabbit
08-26-2007, 09:49 PM
Personally I'm down with Kururu, I don't see Ringo running away from home to hang with Ikki. Basically Ringo is weaksauce patronizing witch(:P). But anyway, what's deal with Simca, my second favorite? She hanging with the Soras now?



I'd like to see Kururu beat Ringo down with a monkeywrench.

XXXX
08-26-2007, 10:38 PM
It over for Ringo she knows that ikki has moved on... Also Ikki knows that he's in love with Kururu. That why he went and attack that car....

Gerrymon
08-26-2007, 10:50 PM
Well with Sleeping Forest name cleared from all crime~ we probably see some love2 issues~ (Ringgo Kissed him right? and when Ikki break down~ she still feel it) there're still a bit hope~ or twist~ :p

Raenef
08-26-2007, 11:05 PM
ive got the perfect ending (to piss people off) for air gear! the trophaeum thingy starts, BLAM japan gets nuked because some prick decided to declare war, everyones dead, japan sinks, air gear's over
poster of Sora holding hands with Kim Jong Il and Osama BinLadin. :cool:

Satralis
08-27-2007, 02:48 AM
Well with Sleeping Forest name cleared from all crime~ we probably see some love2 issues~ (Ringgo Kissed him right? and when Ikki break down~ she still feel it) there're still a bit hope~ or twist~ :p

Why is SF cleared of all crime? they still attacked a lot of ppl in the name of their own justice out of the original battle system... So they crossed the rules of the AT world while forcing their own on others...thats not clean at all.
The kiss was something that Ringo herself regretted partly, and Ikki couldnt make out anything of it (prolly he took it as a farewell kiss...we know Ikkis at a level where he doesnt understand until the girl doesnt dance naked with an "i love u" title on her before Ikki)
So no hope no twist...i hope :D
Go Kururu!

Gerrymon
08-27-2007, 04:21 AM
I think if Ringgo go nakey Ikki would freak out lol :D

Well i dun mind she lost coz Kururu is extremely Moe~

Katsuomori
08-27-2007, 04:38 AM
Maybe Kururu managed to get Ikki's heart somehow... Awww... that's rather too bad for Ringo... she did gave Ikki a kiss right? :D

From how far I've read... I think Kururu will be taking the lead and yes, she is cute... in fact most of the main female characters in Air Gear are cute... just that some can be pretty scary with thier ability sometimes.

Satralis
08-27-2007, 07:11 AM
Pretty scary? U mean when she stands there in a fullplate and corpses are lying around her, and she has that ur the next look on her face?...no thats definitely not scary ^^
When Kururu became determined she just became more cute :p whatever she does thats cute...
Anyways Ringo wont get a chance for a looooong time till the gram scale is over...if she doesnt give up SFs (which is not the same as her) way of thinking. Until than Kururu can take her time to get things heated with Ikki. (that lame bastard who cant see that paradise has its gate wide open before him)

Hyuver
08-27-2007, 08:50 AM
Well with Sleeping Forest name cleared from all crime~ we probably see some love2 issues~ (Ringgo Kissed him right? and when Ikki break down~ she still feel it) there're still a bit hope~ or twist~ :p

I don't think Sleeping forest is an innocent side, I understand why they want to destroy all the regalia but even go as far as killing people like Kokuen(spitfire righthand man) is just too far

Raenef
08-27-2007, 09:38 AM
enlighten me. what exactly did exSF or currentSF do that deserves punishment? only thing worth mentioning IMO is attack on Simca. That attack also didn't paralyze her. It was done to leave Simca out of the conflict as SF didn't want further harm against her. and the actually crime was committed by the Sora brothers under the team of Genesis. [killing Spit and Aeon and destroying heli...so on...]

Hyuver
08-27-2007, 09:51 AM
enlighten me. what exactly did exSF or currentSF do that deserves punishment? only thing worth mentioning IMO is attack on Simca. That attack also didn't paralyze her. It was done to leave Simca out of the conflict as SF didn't want further harm against her. and the actually crime was committed by the Sora brothers under the team of Genesis. [killing Spit and Aeon and destroying heli...so on...]

Read my previous post, Om killed Kokuen before the second match between Koga and animal house.....

and I also think Gabishi kill crazy face Kaji (only appear on the flashback scene when Gabishi VS Sano&Nue)

Those guy are not king, not even owning a regalia, they are not even gonna be a threat to them

So why the hell would Sleeping Forest must go as far as killing them?

AngelMayLaugh
08-27-2007, 11:45 AM
BTW FYI even in Tenjou Tenge it seems like the male lead not going to end up with the female lead..

Is she gonna go out with the guy that beat the crap outta the blonde-haired ugly guy? If that's true I might start reading it.

Katsuomori
08-27-2007, 12:07 PM
@Satralis: Scary because of what Ringo can do when she's in Crazy Apple mode.

Yup, as long as Ringo is the leader of the SF... this means that Ikki is her enemy. Sad but it would have changed if Ikki have taken the offer of becoming the leader of the Genesis. Just like what Spitfire said... the both sides would have avoided conflict if Ikki have accepted the offer of becoming the leader of the Genesis since Ikki and Ringo are deeply involve... well, I think it doesn't make any difference from the betrayal the world of AT had by Sora.

Fredegart
08-27-2007, 02:18 PM
Since Ikki left Noyamano's house they broke apart.
Ikki now has Kururu... who's a person that cares about him... and with he's starting to care about.

In chapter 171 akito say to Ikki like this:
"If each of you think of each other as a necessity, then... I don't know when it will be, but... At some point it will surely connect with you."
And in the end of the chapter this lines pass through Ikki's head:
"I don't know when that will be... If you think of each other as a necessity, then... Like combining only one part out of the tens of thousands..."

I think that Ringo and Ikki are done... Kururu's at Ikki's side all the time... And Ikki unsconciously started to aknowledge that she's kinda special for him too. Always worried about her... Even when he was shi*in he came for her thinking whe was in peril... lol (that was really funny)

I guess the Ringo's era it's over... We are now in the Kururu's era!
=P

zxcvbn
08-27-2007, 02:36 PM
Since Ikki left Noyamano's house they broke apart.
Ikki now has Kururu... who's a person that cares about him... and with he's starting to care about.

In chapter 171 akito say to Ikki like this:
"If each of you think of each other as a necessity, then... I don't know when it will be, but... At some point it will surely connect with you."
And in the end of the chapter this lines pass through Ikki's head:
"I don't know when that will be... If you think of each other as a necessity, then... Like combining only one part out of the tens of thousands..."

I think that Ringo and Ikki are done... Kururu's at Ikki's side all the time... And Ikki unsconciously started to aknowledge that she's kinda special for him too. Always worried about her... Even when he was shi*in he came for her thinking whe was in peril... lol (that was really funny)

I guess the Ringo's era it's over... We are now in the Kururu's era!
=P

Even though Ikki may subconsciously like Kururu(as seen in ch143 and 171) he doesn't consciously think of her as anything more than a friend. He still calls her by her last name('Sumeragi-kun') so he doesn't think that she's that close to him.

That said, it isn't necessary that the male lead should always end up with the 'childhood friend/most likely candidate'. In Shuffle the main guy eventually chooses the girl I thought would be least likely at the start of the anime.

Fredegart
08-27-2007, 03:09 PM
Well...
That's alright.. After all they just meet each other...
They don't have that kinda relationship indeed...
But what i'm saying is that things are starting to change...
I guess that in no time they'll have their moment.
=D

Satralis
08-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Well one thing is sure...Ikki wont be the first to make the move xD...i mean...really.

SF is guilty in various crimes since we can assume that they did these things in the past years also. So Killik in an attempt to stop the corruption of the AT world started to wipe out those who defied his laws... a nice god complex and SFs other members are the priests...and Ringo is the main priestess. I also like how they all call him Killik-sama like he would be some kinda avatar lol. I really hate that guy (he so pisses me off). So yea... SF should go down really bad. And just a little addition to Hyuver's list: Gabishi ripped of several ppls face...its not something that heals without any remaining damage... i think u would become quite depressed if some asshole would skin your face...

Fredegart
08-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Well one thing is sure...Ikki wont be the first to make the move xD...i mean...really.

Yeah... Ikki-kun it's truly slow...
Someone must teach him how to act with girls...

I really hate that guy (he so pisses me off). So yea... SF should go down really bad.

Man... you said my words..
I really hate Kilik... I simply don't know how to explain... It's just that I cannot stand him...
Haiuehaieuh :D

Storm King
08-27-2007, 06:06 PM
I really hate Kilik... I simply don't know how to explain... It's just that I cannot stand him...
Haiuehaieuh :D
I can't stand him, even thou the only coolest thing about him I must say is how he keeps deducting points to people as if everybody has to pass through some kind of test *especially when he got mad and gave everybody 0/zero points*

*back to topic*

I think out of all the Girls in Ikki's harem, Ringo is still an M.V.P., mainly becuase she has known him since they were kids, that's a huge thing I mean she has known him for years and years now, plus during their fight Ikki finally recognized her for what she wanted to be...a Storm Rider! she carries a heavy heavy burden! *protecting the sky regalia* I think since Ringo became the leader of Sleeping Forest she's been on a road were there's no coming back from plus I think even more so now that Sora's goal has been exposed! *to get the Sky Regalia*.... remember Ikki's goal is to fly free in teh skies! Ringo already knows this and Kilik and the others wil be proven wrong at the grand scale tournament

we just have to wait and see Ikki vs Ringo part 2

Hyuver
08-27-2007, 07:59 PM
That said, it isn't necessary that the male lead should always end up with the 'childhood friend/most likely candidate'.
I don't know why Japanese always think like that but I never see someone marry/dating their childhood friend unless it's just a monkey love :confused:

Fredegart
08-27-2007, 10:30 PM
I think out of all the Girls in Ikki's harem, Ringo is still an M.V.P., mainly becuase she has known him since they were kids, that's a huge thing I mean she has known him for years and years now, plus during their fight Ikki finally recognized her for what she wanted to be...a Storm Rider! she carries a heavy heavy burden! *protecting the sky regalia* I think since Ringo became the leader of Sleeping Forest she's been on a road were there's no coming back from plus I think even more so now that Sora's goal has been exposed! *to get the Sky Regalia*.... remember Ikki's goal is to fly free in teh skies! Ringo already knows this and Kilik and the others wil be proven wrong at the grand scale tournament

Well...
I can't fully disagree...
But Ringo changed a little in Ikki's head.
For him even knowing all about her true intentions it was some great shock to know everything so suddenly...
And maybe after all he could still see her as a sister...
None os these questions were answered cause the story turn to kururu x ikki arc...
I prefer ikki and kururu for sure, i don't like ringo that much anymore...
And this story of childhood friend and blablabla it's so boring.
=D

Hyuver
08-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Instead of Kururu and Ringo, Ikki should have much more scene with Mikan, everytime they meet they will have many brawl scene LoL

Fredegart
08-27-2007, 10:56 PM
Hiaehaiehaieuhaiueh lol
There it's a couple that i don't think to combine at all...
The way they discuss and argue.. It's easier to kazu stay with onigiri than this two together =P

Hyuver
08-28-2007, 02:09 AM
We don't need them to be a couple but we need them too make a funny scene :D

Katsuomori
08-28-2007, 05:32 AM
Ikki and Mikan? lol... Mikan would have plenty of time to use him as an experiment for her wrestling moves. Just have fun seeing them that close... though it does look painful.

Hyuver
08-28-2007, 08:01 AM
So far there are only 3 person that manage too defeat ikki
1. Rika(if they do Cube Match Ikki will not able to survive)
2. Mikan(Ikki never manage to hit this girl)
3. Old Grandma from the hospital

Katsuomori
08-28-2007, 11:49 AM
^I wonder if Ume could even have the possibility to beat Ikki in the Zero Gravity match. She may be a easy fry for Ikki in the 1G but maybe not at 0G. :D

Fredegart
08-28-2007, 02:43 PM
Well...
She already kinda beat him up...
Haiehaiehaiueh
I don't think it will be difficult for her to do it again...
But that time Ikki was kinda taking easy on her... considering her as a sister... and got beaten...
Haiehaiueaiueh
lol
It was fun!

Satralis
08-28-2007, 04:29 PM
I still think it was a fun scene, and that in a real battle Ikki would fry her...but will never do since shes so small and hitting a LOLI is never accepted...nor should be...lolis must be cared for :p

The thing is that no matter what Ringo did till now, Ikki never realised the emotional part of it. When she wanted to show her feelings Ikki only realised that he needs to rethink his ideal of ATs. But the original reason why Ringo felt that she needs to battle Ikki and show her feelings cause she was afraid that Ikki misunderstands the situation with Kanon and she looses even that small chance to get together with him that she thought she had. But all that effort was wasted, so before Ikki left the house she gave him another clue but basically that didnt get through either i think...

Fredegart
08-28-2007, 04:39 PM
But the original reason why Ringo felt that she needs to battle Ikki and show her feelings cause she was afraid that Ikki misunderstands the situation with Kanon and she looses even that small chance to get together with him that she thought she had. But all that effort was wasted, so before Ikki left the house she gave him another clue but basically that didnt get through either i think...

I think that actually got through... But i guess it was like a last effort...
Cause he stopped and (for the first time looked serious = not stupid) tried to chat with her... Wanting to know what was that and why it was for.. But she sent him away. He likes her... and she likes him... it's deffinitely visible... But after this at the tower when he saw the three of them and ringo not even once showed him some kindness he got a little sad. It was like he never came to knew any of them. And when he most needed her, when he came to know that Sora was using him... Who came for him?
KURURUUUU lol :p
That part was the best... Ringo felt shocked... Even ikki looked surprised trying to understand why was she doing that.

druid lord
08-28-2007, 08:30 PM
Ringo made the choice of being his sister/mom before the series started by not telling him of ATs she therefore chose to protect him (the job of a mother not the job of a spouse) she constantly thinks of him in a protective way and this is completely different from wanting to be with him as a partner. Furthermore we have one simple ABSOLUTE fact that cannot be changed when asked who he could see when he closed his eyes he saw Kururu and even more so Ringo chose to stay as leader of sleeping forest wile she had all the chances in the world to leave so she could not go against him and therefore support him unfortunately for her she did not, wile at the same time he could have done the same to be with her we are not given any evidence of this even entering his mind even once. Wile she did mention two times (please don't make me troll through the god damn chapters for the exact instances) although they were her thoughts it still proves its a one way love/fear-of-seeing-harm-done-to. yet...... its a manga meaning its made for story and not the fans (or most, i find anyway) so don't be surprised if we end up with some bull**** reunion of Ringo and him because there are countless stories with very similar unfolding that end with the character that is most like Ringo's character ending up with the main character. now don't get me wrong i mean if she had more frequently thought of him (during the serious choices) as a partner rather than someone who's ego she had to protect then i would have been fine with her having him but she is to mother like (even though i personally prefer mother like women for some reason i simply find my self more attracted to kururu perhaps its because Ringo only acts mother like and only makes mother like choices wile looking....well not mature looking anyhow) *off topic* ware as someone stated something about the orange haired chick in shuffle she simply down right deserved the guy ffs she not only played a perfect wife for him but he was literally her EVERYTHING and yet *****zillia had to stomp in and ruin everything wile i must agree the orange haired chick was a little bit scary with the whole psycho thing there is no good reason to scrutinize the mentally unstable of society its not her fault it is quiet obvious through out the series that she is not mentally healthy therefore she cannot be truthfully blamed for the scariness..... just.. medicated.(also i think the guy in shuffle is at a quite lower than average level of intellect)*on topic* to conclude I've sided with Kururu and waisted a great deal of time typing today quite unnecessarily so just to put in my ......lets say opinion.:) Go Kururu!!exlimation mark!!one!1!11!shiftone1!!1:)

Fredegart
08-29-2007, 06:50 AM
Man... You said it. Ikki had some chances to choose Ringo... Like when she explained everything for him during her ride... He agreed with her, but not stick with her. On reverse, he got closer to Kururu.
I think that Ringo and Ikki had their chance, now it's time for Kururu make what Ringo didn't.
=D

Katsuomori
08-29-2007, 12:31 PM
Well, Kururu have a long way to go just to take over Ringo's place in Ikki's heart. On the other hand, such intimancy between her and Ikki might be useful for her when comes to tuning.

Fredegart
08-29-2007, 02:51 PM
But is there a place with that much about ringo in ikki's heart nowadays?
And for the tuning I think they are just perfect for each other.
=D

Katsuomori
08-29-2007, 03:27 PM
^Yup, there is. It's there since childhood. Anyway, maybe a bird brain guy like Ikki doesn't know that.

Fredegart
08-29-2007, 03:43 PM
Haiuehaiuehaiueh
lol
I hope he came to know the feelings of Kururu for him and forget about Ringo.
=P
Ikki's so slow...

Satralis
08-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Well, Kururu have a long way to go just to take over Ringo's place in Ikki's heart. On the other hand, such intimancy between her and Ikki might be useful for her when comes to tuning.

She doesnt want to take Ringos place in Ikkis heart... than again it would be like incest for Ikki :D cause he looks Ringo at that way.
What Kururu wants is to support him not in a motherlike way as it was already posted (i agree btw) as Ringo does, but giving all her knowledge and heart to the case since Ikki does the same too. She isnt afraid of burning herself (it seems atm).
So basically Ringo wants to stand before Ikki protecting him and also covering him, while Kururu wants to stand at his side and support him to achieve their goal together. And thats a quite big difference. Ringos one and only chance to get close is on the battlefield cause thats the only place where Kururu cant follow Ikki (well...she can as we saw the battle between Ikki and Ringo :p)

Fredegart
08-29-2007, 10:04 PM
True indeed...
Where Ikki proposed her to break the regalia together with her... And carried her away.
=P

Katsuomori
08-30-2007, 08:32 AM
Well, I do have to agree with Emily... why does all the good girls would fall for that dumb Ikki.

Fredegart
08-30-2007, 08:52 AM
I dunno...
But he has this thing...
Girls like some confidence on i guy... and Ikki kinda has a lot.
And he has his moments that he looks like a mature guy... Even this being like 1/10.
lol
=D

Katsuomori
08-30-2007, 08:59 AM
Aghhh... if only there's such girls in this world. But it's just too good to be true if that happens. :D

Fredegart
08-30-2007, 09:20 AM
If there was i would turn a dumb*** like Ikki and try to get some chicks for me.
aiuehaiuehaiuehaie

chrono
08-30-2007, 09:22 AM
What Kururu wants is to support him not in a motherlike way

Not once have I gotten then vibe. But then again this will be the 5th group that I've gotten my DL's from. Maybe I got Bill Murrey'ed along the way. :confused:

Katsuomori
08-30-2007, 09:28 AM
Anyway... I'm not sure where Ikki and Ringo are heading to but I think despite of all the hardship, I'm sure that there's still some spark in their relationship which can still can be lit up. I'm sure that there'll be some sort of miracle for them to be back together again. After all, they lived together since childhood so they are already very close to each other since young.

PS: As long as ringo has some concerns and feelings for Ikki... I think there should be some chance for Ringo to get him back again... after all, Ikki is just a bird brain when comes to relationships.

Fredegart
08-30-2007, 09:34 AM
You are right...
But now Ringo is seeing that she's not the only one... She already saw Kururu with Ikki... And that she's kinda replacing her.
I wonder if Ringo will have guts to put that aside and do something to change things or she will stay silent and let things be the way they are going.

Katsuomori
08-30-2007, 09:42 AM
You are right...
But now Ringo is seeing that she's not the only one... She already saw Kururu with Ikki... And that she's kinda replacing her.
I wonder if Ringo will have guts to put that aside and do something to change things or she will stay silent and let things be the way they are going.

She would need a lot of courage and willing to accept a lot of risk just to do that. Well, time will tell... time will tell... :rolleyes:

Fredegart
08-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Very true indeed...
Damn... Wait sucks!
=P

chrollo
08-31-2007, 02:12 AM
hey maybe it'll turn out like one of the bad ending from School Days
although one can only hope

Katsuomori
08-31-2007, 04:25 AM
Very true indeed...
Damn... Wait sucks!
=P

I know that it does... but it keeps me excited to know what's next.

Maybe it's like Mikan once said, Ringo can't be Ikki's wings anymore. Perhaps she's right since she's the Sleeping Forest leader and Ikki is a Kogaramasu leader that aims to defeat the Genesis and the Sleeping Forest. I have a hard time thinking who might be Ikki's partner... Kururu, who don't want to take Ringo's place or Ringo who wants to be with Ikki.

Think about it, Kururu's dad must be darn desperate to do such an embarassing pose of challange against Ikki's team. What's with that Kamen Rider's costume.

TuskOte
08-31-2007, 08:04 AM
She would need a lot of courage and willing to accept a lot of risk just to do that. Well, time will tell... time will tell... :rolleyes:

well at least for me she already took the risk couse she already bet sleeping forest emblem against kogarasumaru emblem to fix the misunderstanding of her relationship with kanon

midorika
08-31-2007, 08:16 AM
Ringo is the first girl to kiss ikki~~
Ah... Ringo x Kururu and Ikki x Kanon = love rivals~~

Life
08-31-2007, 10:10 AM
Ringo hasn't been shown alot lately maybe Ringo will save Kururu from Hako(Sora,Nike and Pyon) cause she saw Hako and probably saw them take her or taser her. They'll most likely will have a talk about no other than Ikki and stuff will be expressed.

Fredegart
08-31-2007, 02:34 PM
I have a hard time thinking who might be Ikki's partner... Kururu, who don't want to take Ringo's place or Ringo who wants to be with Ikki.

But Kururu don't want to take Ringo's place in the whole all... Like being the girl preparing food, clothes, and that kind of stuff like Ringo did. But being beside Ikki, helping him to grow his abilities and supporting him like she can do know being by his dad's side.

Think about it, Kururu's dad must be darn desperate to do such an embarassing pose of challange against Ikki's team. What's with that Kamen Rider's costume.

Well... This is kinda odd... I don't even know where to start thinking about this. It was very strange. Like was said: it's not any team that would challenge koga after all. With *almost* 3 kings in the team I guess that takes a lot of guts to fight against them, but they did challenge them...
We can't look down on them... They can be stronger than we thought.

par167
09-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Lets face it Ringo is the key to the victory in zero gravity and getting the brief case with the hidden regalia inside.She thinks with her heart and loves Ikki so could it be that she betrays Sleeping Forest gets Ikki the regalia and and follows his road like she ALWAYS said she wants to ? She is the key to alot of the future and I think Ikki will come to grips and see her as the one whom stood beside and behind him always.As for their previous battle just call it a lovers squable,everyone here knows you fight sometimes with the one you love. And she must have wanted him to be her king from the get go or she would have never given him at's.

tersalius
09-01-2007, 04:34 PM
here i go again the newby finnaly reached his second post. this time i will just point out something. no one here ever wondered that the chapter where ikkis friends asked him to think about the one he really loves and we have kururus picture showing up was exactly ONE chapter after the one where ringo kissed ikki. for this reason i was thinking that oh great is trying to do one of two things. or he is actually showing us that is kururus the one for ikki or he is just puttting one more obstacle (and i have to say a good one) in ikkis and ringo relationship. for now on we will have more interction between kuru and ikki but to say with who ikki will end up with (if with someone) that will only be possible after all this dilemma with ikki and ringo is resolved, so for now doesnt matter how many interection scenes we have with kururu we will still have to wait to say anything about who ikki likes.

midorika
09-01-2007, 08:59 PM
I agree to ringo being quite the key person in this story...
And kururu better be an obstacle only... hehehe...
Even if she's ikki's tuner, it doesn't mean that they must have some very intimate relationship... Kururu for sure likes ikki, that's understood... But I think Ikki cares a lot for ringo too...

Raenef
09-01-2007, 09:17 PM
ikki's feelings towards:

-ringo : confusion between the lines of intimate relationship and brother/sister relationship

-kururu : gradual development of intimate relationship...rather slow..

-simca : just a hot chick with nice S line...xD

zxcvbn
09-01-2007, 09:33 PM
Lets face it Ringo is the key to the victory in zero gravity and getting the brief case with the hidden regalia inside.She thinks with her heart and loves Ikki so could it be that she betrays Sleeping Forest gets Ikki the regalia and and follows his road like she ALWAYS said she wants to ? She is the key to alot of the future and I think Ikki will come to grips and see her as the one whom stood beside and behind him always.As for their previous battle just call it a lovers squable,everyone here knows you fight sometimes with the one you love. And she must have wanted him to be her king from the get go or she would have never given him at's.

Unlikely. By now she's made it clear that Sleeping Forest is her #1 priority. She already had the chance to betray them for Ikki. If she hasn't already then she never will.

tersalius
09-01-2007, 09:57 PM
never will? i doubt that. what would be the fun if she was already at ikkis side, because that is exactly what we all were expecting and what she should have done, but she didnt, why? because this way will be much more amazing when she actually decides to be at ikkis side, to ride the same road as him, a road to freedom and fun.

zxcvbn
09-01-2007, 10:25 PM
never will? i doubt that. what would be the fun if she was already at ikkis side, because that is exactly what we all were expecting and what she should have done, but she didnt, why? because this way will be much more amazing when she actually decides to be at ikkis side, to ride the same road as him, a road to freedom and fun.
Or maybe because her road is different from Ikki's, as she has indicated several times in the manga, and she can't be at his side.

chrono
09-01-2007, 10:27 PM
Ringo is the first girl to kiss ikki~

Simca is the first one to put out for Ikki. ;) :p


tersalius, kinda doubt it. Ringo has already 'talked' to Ikki when she revealed that she was Crazy Apple. SP is a team of 'King Killers' and their version of 'freedom' is completely different than anyone else's. Besides Ringo's had multiple chances at making up after repeatingly stabbing him in the back, but yet not a single attempt on her part.

Chiisu
09-01-2007, 11:33 PM
I have feeling that there's gonna be some cheesy thing at the end where Ringo and Ikki go all out in battle and then somehow Ikki's gonna realize his "true feelings" and end up with Ringo right after the tournament, completely destroying Kururu.

More people have to listen to me so I guess I'll go ahead and quote myself.

It's a shounen manga for god sakes so the chances of this actually happening are pretty high.

tersalius
09-01-2007, 11:46 PM
yeah her road is deffinitly different from ikkis, just as spitfire road and aeon clock roads where different from each other, and yet the author manage to turn two different roads into one completly new. so when i was saying that she could end up in the same road as ikki i was trying to say both of them creating a new road. now lets think why we have TWO main bad guys here, sora and nike. its quite likely that ikki will not fight both of them, it will be like a fight for two just like spitfire and aeon against the sora brothers. of course i could be completly wrong here( and thats very probably, but its still a theory).
and about ringo coming to her senses and staying at ikkis side, loke i said if thats going to happen it will happen during the towers (dont remember the name) batle because this way will cause more impact, and remember, what we should be worrying about here is not WHEN ringo will be at ikkis side, but the CONSEQUNCES to that, because we all know that the guys protecting the tower (sleeping forest) have some bad rules about changing sides.

Fredegart
09-03-2007, 07:17 AM
More people have to listen to me so I guess I'll go ahead and quote myself.

It's a shounen manga for god sakes so the chances of this actually happening are pretty high.

Even being a shounen and this being something very possible to happen, it isn't Oh!G style as said before in many threads.
So we can wait for Ikki ending up with Kururu or even alone (that's possible too)...
For more just not ending up with ringo it'll be enough.
=D

Fredegart
09-03-2007, 07:24 AM
yeah her road is deffinitly different from ikkis, just as spitfire road and aeon clock roads where different from each other, and yet the author manage to turn two different roads into one completly new. so when i was saying that she could end up in the same road as ikki i was trying to say both of them creating a new road. now lets think why we have TWO main bad guys here, sora and nike. its quite likely that ikki will not fight both of them, it will be like a fight for two just like spitfire and aeon against the sora brothers. of course i could be completly wrong here( and thats very probably, but its still a theory).

This thing of creating a new road is possible... It sure can happen... And it would be cool... But even with this happening doesn't mean that they'll be together in the end. And if someone will fight against the takeuchi brothers I would think of Ikki and Kilik (Ikki for Sora for betraying him... and Kilik for Nike for stolen his old regs - gem reg)...

and about ringo coming to her senses and staying at ikkis side, loke i said if thats going to happen it will happen during the towers (dont remember the name) batle because this way will cause more impact, and remember, what we should be worrying about here is not WHEN ringo will be at ikkis side, but the CONSEQUNCES to that, because we all know that the guys protecting the tower (sleeping forest) have some bad rules about changing sides.

And this thing about that... They already had a run... They already showed for each other what they though or what they wanted... I don't think we will see the same scene again... The both of them running and then "bumm"...

Satralis
09-03-2007, 02:58 PM
Oh well Ringo still can turn the table, but its different from the former case where she was againts Simca. There she tried to protect Ikki from being used by her but the current case is that Kururu is an all-support type. A girl againts who Ringo have absolutely no right to interfere given the things she has done in the past.

Ringo leaving the ideas of SF is quite possible sinces she herself does not like the way they do things but its the lesser bad thing in her opinion and if she already devoted herself than she will make it through no matter what. Imo thats her way of doing this, but knowing that Ikki might provide a sollution thats better than the current idea of SF shes willing to support him but also will stand in his way to be sure that he is worthy of her trust. But if Ikki can defeat her she will be more than happy to side with him and fight together. Well basically that train of thoughts do i find annoying and that makes me wish that Ringo never gets together with Ikki. And i think that she wont leave SF sooner than i mentioned cause she indeed has many opportunities to choose Ikki above SF but refused to do so...like when Ikki had a hard time in the forest but Ringo couldnt help (i still have no idea what prevented her...) even if it was to make Ikki stronger. (well yea he did get into a suicidal mood).

Life
09-03-2007, 03:12 PM
Ringo's being brought up everyday I mean everyone says her Name she's still important even though she's not there.

Fredegart
09-03-2007, 03:16 PM
I was really mad at Ringo at that time on the forest...

And saying all of this about Ringo waiting for Ikki came with a better plan and all... I know that this is possible... But at the same time I think you're giving her too much credit.
=D

Satralis
09-03-2007, 03:22 PM
Ringo's being brought up everyday I mean everyone says her Name she's still important even though she's not there.

Yea like when Kazu mentions how his and Ringos number arent in Ikkis cellphone but Kururus is.
Like how Mikan tells Ringo how she no longer can/may help Ikki.
Like how Emily and the other girl tell Kururu that she cant replace Ringo but also mention that she can support him in other ways (maybe even more)
Like how Ikki suggests that Kururu can take Ringos seat in class since shes not there...well Kanons head was in the way anyways '-_-
Like how Kururu mentions that she will support Ikki in her own way and not as a substitute for Ringo...

Ur right...she is constantly mentioned in the latter chaps.

Life
09-03-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh!Great seems to love Ringo.

tersalius
09-03-2007, 03:55 PM
satralis all that you said is very true, but is exactly because of that that im unsure about ikki x kururu. let me explain. if all these hints had started SOME chapters after the battle with ikki and ringo and all that kiss scene i woul be sure that oh great is trying to develop a ikki x kururu. but all these hints started EXACTLY one chapter after the whole battle and kiss scene. makes me wonder if oh great is actually trying to develop ikki x kururu or putting like an "obstacle" in a ikki x ringo. who knows? and i know that we had one scene where ikki had kind a connection with kururu before the battle, but it was just one scene, all the other hints started after the battle.
so for now i think we need a lit bit more of information before getting to the conclusions.

Satralis
09-03-2007, 04:05 PM
Well until the end we can inly guess what will happen so thats the basic idea of this thread and the other 3 threads with the same topic too.
Your opnion was also stated in another topic but i dont remember where and wether a commented on that so...
I would agree with you if that one thing didnt happen when Onigiri asked Ikki who he really likes, and Kururus pic came to his mind which surprised me (when i read it) and Ikki too. It was totally out of the blue, since there wasnt any real sign that he would actually like her that much. But examining their relationship its quite easy to understand. They are totally matched! They can be in the same world without being forced to compete, they admire each others ability. They can act honestly towards each other and that particular awkward silence didnt happen yet. So basically Kururus and Ikkis current relationship has the same attributes as it was with Ringo when they still had the opportunity to see each other without having to worry about the gram scale and such. The difference is the 13 or so years that Ringo spent with Ikki building the relationship but got only this far while Kururu had only a few weeks but achieved the same state... and prolly will go further if OG wishes it.

tersalius
09-03-2007, 04:56 PM
well different points of view here. for you the scene where kururu appears on ikkis mind was the one that made you think about a possible ikki x kururu. for me it was this scene that made me wonder if that scene should be related to a ikki x kururu or just a plot device to develop, in the future, a ikki x ringo. the scene was to soon, to abrupt, we just had an amazing battle interaction with ikki and ringo and after that kiss, just after this we have kururu showing up in ikkis thoughts. too weird, too soon for a character that was recently put in the plot.
and about kururu to get in the same place that ringo took 13 years to get, well i dont know how you are able to judge how important ringo is for ikki, or even how important kururu is for him. if you are judging by ikkis actions, i think you are doing a mistake. we can see that ikki cares for, we could say, everyone important to him, speccially the girls, simca, ringo, kururu. damm just look at his reaction to the whole simca inccident, just judging by his actions we would say simca is the girl for him? of course not. got my point of view here.
for now every time we try to say who is important to ikki we are all expressing ours own desires to who he should end up with. theres nothing concrete enough to back up those arguments yet, just some hints, but those hints can be used to defend both kururu or ringo. prove of that is the fact that we have so many posts around the same topic. no one have anything for sure yet, so what we should be posting here are our opinions, but we shouldnt talk about them has something stated for sure in tha manga, because theres nothing for sure in the manga yet.
sorry for one more long post.

Satralis
09-03-2007, 07:00 PM
I think that basically our posts that reflect our wish for how the story should develop and thus our opinion is also based on the story itself. So the desire comes from the events that led to the current situations. The post already states our opinions of the story line and as such, its already backed up by the events that occured in the manga this far... (sorry for stating sg obvious)
The difference is in the understanding of that scene. Or to me it seems so. I took Onigiris question and Ikkis reaction for a fact since there were no signs of any hidden intent in those pictures (imo), so basically i accepted the fact that Ikki did imagine Kururu when Onigiri asked who he liked the most (even after the battle and kiss), while you suggest that this whole thing is out of the ordinary, and so it has no reality at all, meaning its just a distraction from Ikkis real feelings towards Ringo. But Imo it is less backed up by the story line than my point of view.

and about kururu to get in the same place that ringo took 13 years to get, well i dont know how you are able to judge how important ringo is for ikki, or even how important kururu is for him. if you are judging by ikkis actions, i think you are doing a mistake.
Yes i indeed made that assumption based on Ikkis actions, since he doesnt seem to be the type to hide his feelings or to nurse any hidden feelings towards anyone in secret, in which case judging based on his actions seems to be rather reasonal imo. But again i can only make these guesses based on what i read and understood in the manga.
Ur right about Ikki being nice towards every girl (hes the main hero...), but that also doesnt mean that the actions he takes will be the exact same in every case.
Also in the case of RingoxIkki and KururuxIkki developement i considered only the relarionships love part. The 13 years that Ringo had was clearly not spent only to convey her feelings towards Ikki, but even so she couldnt reach a reaction better than Kururu...but as things are now Kururu has more chances and potential. And for Kururu to be an obsticle she gets quite much attention... more than Agito or Bucha which made me wonder wether OG has some more important role for her in his stock than a chatalyst for an IkkixRingo development.

tersalius
09-03-2007, 08:03 PM
first of all you got me wrong here. im not trying to say that the picture of kururu was there for no reason. when im reading something i like to ask myself why thats happening, what is the author intention with that (i know that some people dont like to do this while reading but i think its funny and cool). so after thinking about the picture i came with two conclusions. one is that oh great want to create a reletionship in the future with kururu and ikki, and second that kururu would be a new "plot device" to make us wonder about ikki and ringo and how different kururu and ringo acts towards their feelings for ikki. if you have any more ideas for the same scene i would like to her, because of all the possibilities i think this two are the more relevants.
and its clear that you are a kururu fan but dont think that im a ringo fan trying to defend her in a shining armor. im here just to try to show the both sides of the same coin. oh great like to do that, if anyone is reading tenjo tenge you will realize how he likes to play with a plot device called paralelism. he uses it in tenjo and also here in a.g. for now think of me as an air gear fan, not more nor less.

Hyuver
09-03-2007, 08:36 PM
Oh!Great seems to love Ringo.

True true so that's why he doesn't her to be taken Ikki LoL

Anyway I hope that Oh!Great didn't think like most of Japanese's, I don't know where most of them got the idea about intimate relationship between childhood friend, I never see thing like that for my whole life :confused: it's so boring to repeat the same plot

Anyway I hope O!G make it clear at the end who Ikki really like, don't turn it into undecided or like Vandread, where in the second season the main character is having 2 daughter from different woman O__O

tersalius
09-03-2007, 08:54 PM
he already proved that, because if he was thinking like most of the japanese authors we would have now a ringo besides ikki, fighting with all her heart to help him. but what we have is ringo and ikki at different sides(who knows for how long).
and i hope for a clear conclusion about this love triangles by the end an not a lame he wasnt able to choose.

Satralis
09-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Hey thats not so bad :D

Anyways i dont see the similarities in TT and AG... or to be more accurate i dont see any particular similarities that couldnt be related to any other stories with the same topic.

Well guessing the intentions of OG is sure a cool thing, but basically its pretty much the same as guessing the developement of the story...same thing.
Regarding the pics...yea there are several other aspects, like she only appeared because of the recent events like how she sided with Ikki during his battle, and helped them achieve a mutual understanding and such, which would make it more than reasonable for Ikki to realise how important that girl is for him. On the other hand, he still cant accept Ringos ideas...that didnt happen during the battle with the crazy apple.
Oh and if I want to guess OGs idea of Kururu in an aspect similar to yours i also would assume that the more Kururu will act as Ringo the more Ringos actions would be justified but the difference will still always be there. Like how Kururu wanted to support Ikki through working againts his victory, but at the same time its her father eventually.

tersalius
09-03-2007, 09:40 PM
about similarities in TT and AG, dont you think that simca (before haircut) and maya are terrible alike in their appereance. not related to the story i know. so now something more related to it. maya is now in a bed UNABLE to do anything, simca is now in a wheelchair also UNABLE to do anything. one similarity here dont you think? not enough right? so what about ikki and the main character in TT (the one with the dragon fist, dont remember the name) dont they act very alike? one more example, and an important one. in TT we have the main female lead that likes the main character (again the one with the dragon fist), but till the chapter that i read (i think im three or four chapters behind) we still dont know how he feels exactly about her(i know that he likes/liked the older sister, but that was at the the begining of the manga, now is kind of a mystery, and about aya he never said or did anything to her for us be sure about how he feels). doesnt seems familiar too. i could give some more examples, like all the love triangles we have at both mangas, but i think thats enough.
and about guessing OG intentions, of course is the same thing of guessing how the plot will progress, after all he is the one who writes it right?

Satralis
09-03-2007, 10:12 PM
Yeah hes the one yayks.
Well that would basically mean that Ikki wont get together with Ringo... since the dragon fist guy declared several times that he loves maya and doesnt look at aya that way. Maya is a strong fighter who could turn the table in a battle...Simca is motivation but her skills in AT arent good enough to decide a battle. The love triangles and such can be found in a few stories... The 2 main characters indeed are similar...in talent and power... but i couldnt say that this kind of personality is rare either (yu yu hakusho, unbalance, kiba, gundam seed dest)... well if you put these all together it does seem like the 2 stories are similar so youre basically right.

I just reread that chap where Ikki is asked and i found another aspect..maybe he saw her because she called him..like an intuition.
And when Ikki is asked about the kiss he strongly opposes any intimate side of that act and declares that it was no different from kissing his mother (which he never did before o basically he has no idea but the intention is the same)

tersalius
09-03-2007, 10:30 PM
ok for the firs paragraph i think you got my point of view.
and about STRONGLY opposing any intimate side of the kiss dont you think you are exaggerating a little bit here. lets remember ikkis reaction to the kiss, especially the last scene after trying to ask ringo for answers. how was ikkis face? if you dont remember see the chapter again. and about he saying it was like kissing a sister i think its important to realize in what context he was asked about that. his friends were trying to mess with him about the kiss, and of course our ikki is a "pure" guy so he answerd in the most logical way: trying to escape from actually answering it with what we could call a non answer. come on you wasnt actually expecting that we would say how much he liked the kiss or how significant it was for him, because if he had done that we wouldnt be here having this talk!
and about kururu showing up in ikkis mind a actually think it was because he was thinking about her during that time, she is growing up in importance for ikki by each passing chapter, but how far that will go, its difficult to tell yet.

Satralis
09-04-2007, 05:18 AM
I do remember the face he made. And it wasnt because of the kiss, but the basic situations as a whole. He leaving the house and getting back to be in good terms with Ringo he made that face. He opposing the meaning of that kiss is not only because he had his teasing friends around (and its not the first time he declares that Ringo is only his childhood friend and nothing more). If he ever thought Ringo in that way would he go after Simca so obviously while being in her presence? Or how he remembers fondling her breasts (^^)... its nothing like a developing love... considering that hes either shy or just simple minded. And as of now regarding the regalia and the conversation with Aktio he himself wanders what could become of him and Kururu, while regarding Ringo, he can only see her as the leader of SF and only after that is she a friend. (same as Ringo looks at him)

Life
09-04-2007, 06:08 AM
Ikki doesn't consider Ringo family in that manner cause he never called Ringo sister and never really showed any seriousness of intmancy in the manga he never said he loved anyone nor acted like he did.

Hyuver
09-04-2007, 06:12 AM
True2 he only thing she ever show to a girl in the manga is just his pervertness :p

Life
09-04-2007, 06:29 AM
The love triangle is mainly difficult to understand cause of him and his obliviousness to there feelings.

tersalius
09-04-2007, 06:33 AM
I do remember the face he made. And it wasnt because of the kiss, but the basic situations as a whole. He leaving the house and getting back to be in good terms with Ringo he made that face. He opposing the meaning of that kiss is not only because he had his teasing friends around (and its not the first time he declares that Ringo is only his childhood friend and nothing more). If he ever thought Ringo in that way would he go after Simca so obviously while being in her presence? Or how he remembers fondling her breasts (^^)... its nothing like a developing love... considering that hes either shy or just simple minded. And as of now regarding the regalia and the conversation with Aktio he himself wanders what could become of him and Kururu, while regarding Ringo, he can only see her as the leader of SF and only after that is she a friend. (same as Ringo looks at him)

so satralis could you point out here where is this second time when he said that ringo is just a childhood friend for him? because i just remember he saying that one time. if i let something pass here please tell me.
and to say that his reaction was because he is leaving the house and getting back in good terms with ringo? so he was smiling and blushing because he was leaving home? thats what you want me to believe? and did he really got back in good term with ringo, because if ist true the whole scene at tropheum is kind of weird, because for me they didnt even talk to each other there and in all other scens since he left the house. i can say that all this means getting back in good terms.

Fredegart
09-04-2007, 09:45 AM
Well...
My opnion won't count much cause I'm a Kururu fan... But dispite that... I remember ikki saying this before too. I'll look... See if I can find and tell you later... But man... I guess that IkkixKururu and IkkixRingo reached the same level... It's hard to say that Ringo leads cause the 13 years thing, cause like was said before, it wasn't 13 years of a love or emotional relationship... so the love thing about ikki and ringo for all we know it's since the episode 1 till that kiss... something around 1 year, right?
And this thing about kururu and ikki it's already a couple months... Or a little more... Dunno exactly.
So... I can't say that ikki totally forgot Ringo and don't feel nothing for her anymore... But can't deny the attraction for kururu. But I have to agree with Satralis in the point that ikki thought of Kururu when onigiri asked him who he really liked... The discussion was about simca and ringo... it doesn't even involved kururu... It was surprising even for him.
As said before in another thread I agree with tersalius about the kiss and all, but that kiss ended up there... And yes... he looked surprised... He liked very much... But he got confused, cause she didn't think about Ringo that way and that was a big change for him... Ikki that's really dumb was shocked. He tried to speak with her in an attempt of "What now?" like trying to understand that... To what it would lead or what could have mean for the two of them...
=D
Just IMO!

tersalius
09-04-2007, 10:15 AM
[QUOTE=Fredegart;10979]Well...
My opnion won't count much cause I'm a Kururu fan... But dispite that... I remember ikki saying this before too. I'll look... See if I can find and tell you later... But man... I guess that IkkixKururu and IkkixRingo reached the same level... It's hard to say that Ringo leads cause the 13 years thing, cause like was said before, it wasn't 13 years of a love or emotional relationship... so the love thing about ikki and ringo for all we know it's since the episode 1 till that kiss... something around 1 year, right?
And this thing about kururu and ikki it's already a couple months... Or a little more... Dunno exactly.
So... I can't say that ikki totally forgot Ringo and don't feel nothing for her anymore... But can't deny the attraction for kururu. But I have to agree with Satralis in the point that ikki thought of Kururu when onigiri asked him who he really liked... The discussion was about simca and ringo... it doesn't even involved kururu... It was surprising even for him.
As said before in another thread I agree with tersalius about the kiss and all, but that kiss ended up there... And yes... he looked surprised... He liked very much... But he got confused, cause she didn't think about Ringo that way and that was a big change for him... Ikki that's really dumb was shocked. He tried to speak with her in an attempt of "What now?" like trying to understand that... To what it would lead or what could have mean for the two of them...
=D
Just IMO![/Q
first of course your opinion matters, all opinions are important.
second i completely agree with you. what im trying to point out here is that ikki feels something for ringo, if that will develop for something more, we have to wait to see. but we also cant deny that something is going on between him and kururu, and again, how this is going to develop we dont know yet.
so lets wait!

Fredegart
09-04-2007, 10:21 AM
Yeah... We'll have to wait...
But man... It's late, isn't?
:D

tersalius
09-04-2007, 10:55 AM
Yeah... We'll have to wait...
But man... It's late, isn't?
:D

late? sorry didnt get your point here!

Fredegart
09-04-2007, 12:47 PM
The translated version to came out...
Compared with the others that took about 2, 3 or even 4 days this is taking 6...
oO
And don't wanna see the raw cause i don't understand nothing about japanese anyway.
=D

tersalius
09-04-2007, 12:52 PM
The translated version to came out...
Compared with the others that took about 2, 3 or even 4 days this is taking 6...
oO
And don't wanna see the raw cause i don't understand nothing about japanese anyway.
=D

i think that they will do a double release, and chapter 176 is coming in the next days.

Fredegart
09-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Yeah... Maybe this is the reason... But and now?
What's left to talk about the topic?

tersalius
09-04-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah... Maybe this is the reason... But and now?
What's left to talk about the topic?

now we wait for new chapters, when something related to the topic happens, be sure that we will be here talking again!

OR we could create a new topic to discuss HOW THAT DAMN MIURA CAN MAKE US WAIT ALMOST A MONTH AND A HALF FOR BERSERK NEXT CHAPTER!!!!! do you guys think that caska will stay as a brainless woman or she will receive the gift of speak again?

sorry not related to the topic i know, but i had to put that out.

DragonTiger
02-23-2008, 04:00 AM
Well. Ringo and Ikki they still got chance. it will be probably happy ending of Air Gear.

Ringo
02-23-2008, 08:09 AM
They might not end up together as a couple,but i do hope they stay friends.
And maybe Ringo joins Kogarasumaru(most likely)

HurricaneRoad
02-23-2008, 08:29 AM
i dont think she will join but i think they will turn out as friends in the end.. :)

Ringo
02-23-2008, 08:32 AM
i dont think she will join but i think they will turn out as friends in the end.. :)

Why not join.Since Sleeping Forest might get destroyed nothing will be stoping her.

HurricaneRoad
02-23-2008, 09:59 AM
i just dont think she will.. and we dont know yet if they still exist after the Tournament, it might be that they go each their ways..

Kurokawa Shun
02-23-2008, 10:40 AM
to answer the original question.
Yes, they are done, pick up your fan-gear and go embrace the Kururu factor.
And I bet she will die in the ultimate fight at the top/bottom of the tower when she and Ikki really duke it out.

DragonTiger
02-23-2008, 12:55 PM
well about Ringo to joid Ikki's team. If SF lost why not and it is most likely to happen. Äbout Kururu, She is Ikki's tuner and even if she got strong feelings for Ikki, he will see her as close friend. I still think Ringo and Ikki will be together but it is my opinion.

How it end depend only on Oh Great.:glasses:

9taileddemon
02-23-2008, 03:27 PM
It will be Kururu and Ikki together.

However I think that Ringo will help Kogarasumaru in the end because to get the sky regalia they say that all 8 roads need to be collected. And the only rider who uses thorn road besides Ringo is Rika who refuses to use ATs.