Kazu is the new Flame King....right???

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I know that Spitfire gave Kazu the flame regalia right. And in one of the new chapters Kazu tries it on. Well it won't work correctly for him since no one has tuned Kazu yet. Am I right?? So if he is the new Flame King then where is his Tuner???

[Thunderlord]

Kazu has never put on the flame regalia. He was going to but was stopped by Agito. Spitfire saw him as the best prospect to carry forth his flames. But he's still a long way to being a king. Even if he manages to learn the principles of it's usage, he'll end up hurting himself since he doesn't have a tuner.

[Hyuver]

I think the other still didn't know that Kazu have the flame regalia with him, so far only Agito and Akira that has saw him holding the regalia.

Maybe Ine is still choosing a tuner for him

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

Yea i thought so too. I never saw Kazu wear the flame regalia yet. So the only people that should know that Kazu has the flame regalia are Agito/Akito, their older brother Kaito (Crocodile), and Akira. Can't wait to see Kazu's debut as a King and see who his Tuner is going to be.

[Hyuver]

I can only think it's gonna be Konomi(TTT girl that always around with Hako and Kururu) and Nakayama.

But maybe Konomi, since Nakayama doesn't know anything about tuning, she is just possibly gonna be a tuner. With the tournament gonna start soon I think it will be not enough time for her to learn about tuning so fast and it's unlikely there will be a new character

[rh1ngo06]

hmm... kazu hold the flame regalia but i think he is not a king...
i think he has a long way to go to become a king...

[Fredegart]

With his conditions the way it's now i think that the possibility for him to become a king it's about 10%.
Since the beginning of Air Gear, dispite the fact that the kazu's character it's very captive for some ppl, I'd never though he could someday turn into a king.
But I never though it could exist such strong guys in the AT world too...
Like the takeuchi brothers, gabashi, and others.
So maybe Kazu learn something, and come to acquire some habilities to turn him into a king.

But like Thunderlord said "Even if he manages to learn the principles of it's usage, he'll end up hurting himself since he doesn't have a tuner" it was Agito who said it too... He would just burn himself.

[sakiru]

Since the beginning of Air Gear, dispite the fact that the kazu's character it's very captive for some ppl, I'd never though he could someday turn into a king.


I can't agree with that one at all. Kazu's development throughout the series has made a big point to the fact that he has amazing natural talent, as well as the determination to become skilled. But his moves are different than the others (he's all speed, and none of the rest of them are), so his major block is his own lack of self-confidence. His ordeals have become a major subplot, with the theme of learning to be different from everyone else and still to shine.

[imintheradio]

I can't agree with that one at all. Kazu's development throughout the series has made a big point to the fact that he has amazing natural talent, as well as the determination to become skilled. But his moves are different than the others (he's all speed, and none of the rest of them are), so his major block is his own lack of self-confidence. His ordeals have become a major subplot, with the theme of learning to be different from everyone else and still to shine.

yup,in this manga,Kazu is really move forward,from looking only at people,then learn by himself!!but,true he's still lack of confident..but,it is not impossible for him to become a King...

[SHInoSHIkamaru]

I can't agree with that one at all. Kazu's development throughout the series has made a big point to the fact that he has amazing natural talent, as well as the determination to become skilled. But his moves are different than the others (he's all speed, and none of the rest of them are), so his major block is his own lack of self-confidence. His ordeals have become a major subplot, with the theme of learning to be different from everyone else and still to shine.

Dude i'm with you on that. When Kazu barely started using AT's did you just see how fast he was able to go?? Even Ringo(the Thorn Queen) was amazed on how fast he went. As stated in the manga Kazu is just used to being behind Ikki in the shadows and has no self-confidence. He will be the underestimated rider at the tournament. And even Yo****une(Rumble King) was amazed on how Kazu developed. He even surprised Om(Water Queen) on how fast he was able to go, even having the brakes on on his AT's. Kazu is going to be crazy later on in the manga.

[Satralis]

Ahm Kazu has talent too. It doesnt seem like it cause Koga is basically surrounded by the best riders in the AT world. They were led by kings and such from the beginning and fought againts quite hard enemies, so if u compare Kazu to an ordinary rider you cant say that he has no talent, when he became a rider at the same time when Ikki did (well a bit later) and until Ikki activated the wing road, he stepped on the flame road, which would actually mean he has almost as much potential as Ikki. And just because another King showed him what lacks for him doesnt mean that he has no chance at all. And i think if the story gets a bit rough and we can see for egs, Emily get beaten than even Kazu will show the hell of the flame road ^^ its a shounen manga in the end.

[penguinism]

i think every1 doesnt give credit to kazu cuz in the very beginning it was shown how much he trains compared to every1 else, like that he was weak and could only get good by training while every1 assumed ikki was just godlike from the start...i dont think people payed much attention to when it was shown that ikki trained like a madman too so i dont think peoples opinions changed when they should have...like ikki was saying when agito was gonna step up to ride, that kazu has to tbe the one to ride, look at his at's hes the only one with worn down wheels

kazu has definately been far above average since hes started, u also gotta remember this is his first experience with really using friction, hes a speed rider, with speed friction=bad, now hes learning to use his amazing speed to purposely CREATE friction, as for agito his whole regalia is based on the principle of friction, so making friction for him is easy, but hes not suited for the regalia as well as kazu is, so once kazu gets the concept of creating the flames/friction hell be amazing :P

[Katsuomori]

Kazu had been selected by Spitfire to be the next flame king and he has the Flame Regelia. Since he's not being killed by Sora and Nike so he's definately the present Flame King. I think he just needs more practice. After all... it's rather surprising that Agito can do such a scary flame road.

[Satralis]

I think penguinism made a quite reasonable (well...its AG so that word is a mit excessive here xD) explanation why Agito was able to pull of such a trick. And Kazu only got his hands on the regalia and although he has the potantial he isnt ready to be the flame king. But with proper training he can become one...maybe even better than the former. And basically he still isnt able to activate the infinity atmosphere of the flame road (that phonex thingy that Spit pulled of) And dont forget that he was able to see through Aeonclocks "invisibility" at the cube battle. So he can even combine the two roads (since Aeons road is basically a variation of the flame road). And if he ads his own style (the jet in the background xD) than it can become an even more fearsome road that can compete with Nikes jade road.(basically Aeon was the one who could repel Nikes ability)

[zxcvbn]

...(since Aeons road is basically a variation of the flame road)...

Not sure about that. Aeon wasn't using any flame based attacks till he teamed up with Spitfire. His Apollo Road is probably something different. He's just a speed type rider with a high battle level and dozens of special tricks that make it look like he can manipulate time.

[Silver_K]

is the tuner really needed to actualy use the regalia? I mean, agito doesent have a tuner and yet he uses the regalia...

[Fredegart]

Kazu it's not that cool...
He's training hard, but even with ppl saying that he trains harder than everyone I don't quite agree with that...
Some chapters behind they show the local where Ikki trained everyday, showing the marks on the walls, pipes and everything where he passed on by... Everyone though that he were just a stubborn guy that worshiped himself without reasons, but they came to know that he don't acomplished his abilities and tricks without training.
But that's ok... Kazu has some ablities... After all that speed is quite impressive and it's not anyone that can catch up with him seriously.
If he understands the principle of friction as penguinism said... He could be flame king in no time.
=D

is the tuner really needed to actualy use the regalia? I mean, agito doesent have a tuner and yet he uses the regalia...

Well...
It's kind like that.
To use the regalia itself it isn't needed a tuner.
Like when Ikki used... Or like Sora after him...
The tuner is there not to make a person capable of using a regalia but to synchronize the rider with his regalia... To make them 100% compatible. To make the rider reach his full potential with his AT's...

And you know?
Agito's tuner is Akito...
His kind of second personality it's his tuner and we can see that a little at chap 171.
=D

[Katsuomori]

Tuners doesn't need a regelia. Well, Ike doesn't have a regelia and so as Kururu right? All they need is that SC suit, that sound mechine that is connected to the headphone and that wierd type writer give all kinds of reading in that so call codes.

[Fredegart]

His question was if for a rider to use a regalia he needs a tuner...
Not if a tuner needs a regalia =D

[Satralis]

Not sure about that. Aeon wasn't using any flame based attacks till he teamed up with Spitfire. His Apollo Road is probably something different. He's just a speed type rider with a high battle level and dozens of special tricks that make it look like he can manipulate time.

Im pretty sure about that cause it was clearly said that Aeon was on the same road as Spitfire but since he couldnt obtain the regalia he changed a bit but basically his road was very similar. His basically a speed type too (as Spitfire) and when they were in the cube it was explained that he used heat to make light and to make himself invisible which is again a sign of the flame road...

Well Kazu will be able to master both persons techniques and beat the hell out of Nike :D would be a typical-shounen sollution.

[Fredegart]

What do you think would that be?
Ikki kicking Sora's as* and Kazu kicking Nike's?
This would be a nice solution.
=D

[Satralis]

Well as i said...typical shounen.
If i would want to make Ringo go down i would send Emily into the battle. Lets see if Ringo has the determination to cripple her schoolmate, friend and also a damn weak rider. (i bet she would...and than tell her: "Dont worry you will actually walk again...i hope")

[aznkangaroo3]

Well as i said...typical shounen.
If i would want to make Ringo go down i would send Emily into the battle. Lets see if Ringo has the determination to cripple her schoolmate, friend and also a damn weak rider. (i bet she would...and than tell her: "Dont worry you will actually walk again...i hope")

I don't think Emily would fight Ringo if she's as weak (mentally and physically) as you said, unless she wants to prove her worthiness on the team ;).

[par167]

If he is the flame king would"nt he be assigned a tuner? Ikki was.And don't ya need the old mans blessing from the parts shop,LOL.

[aznkangaroo3]

Dude, just thought of something ... Kazu and Ikki would make an awesome team, like Spitfire and Sano. Since wind is what increases the oxygen in fire, their roads combined can create a greater inferno. And because the hurricane road is not "narrow" like the wind road, their powers can create a destructive force that has no sense of direction (LIKE A BOMB :D). Kinda unrelated to the topic :p

[Fredegart]

If he is the flame king would"nt he be assigned a tuner? Ikki was.And don't ya need the old mans blessing from the parts shop,LOL.

Kinda...
Ikki was a exception in terms of urgency... Cause he was the one to become the wind king... and possibly the one to become the sky king...
So ttt put someone in his shoes to look out for him.
Kazu is kinda different cause he isn't yet the flame king... And not even once ppl though about him comin to be a king.
Now about the gramps... Spitfire in one of the last chapters (169 i guess) said to gramps: did i succesfully manages to leave the fire behind?
It was like asking about his opnion... maybe asking for his approval...
It's what I think.

[Victory]

The word Regalia means proof of kingship. Therefore the fact that Kazu current holds the Flame Regalia proves that he is the Flame King or at least has the symbol. Regardless of whether or not he has earned it or worthy of it. A Regalia is basically a crown, but in the world of AT that crown gives you even more super powers.

[Katsuomori]

If he is the flame king would"nt he be assigned a tuner? Ikki was.And don't ya need the old mans blessing from the parts shop,LOL.

Maybe he will... right now, he can't wear that regelia because he's not ready yet. And even if he has a tuner... maybe Emily might be the right choice? :D

[Res]

It seems that many people want Kazu to be the Flame King (or believe that he's already a king). I also like Kazu very much, he's my most favourite character in this manga. And what I like the most about him is that he's very self-pity, which is believed by many to be the greatest obstacle of him becoming a king. People with lots of self-confidence like Ikki are admirable, but people who are self-pity but always keep trying are respectible. He may become a king, but I hope that even when others think of him as a king, he'll still think of himself as an ordinary rider with mediocre ability who needs a lot of effort to become as good as others.

[rasenshuriken]

kazu is the flame king but you dont see him use the regalia yet because he still didnt master the flame techniques yet, thus using the regalia is pointless(i guess). also because (this is also a guess) kazu still doesnt have someone to tune his regalia to suit his own body.(i guess)

[Raenef]

he is not a King. yet at least. in order to acquire that title, there are requirements for the rider. he barely has ANY at the moment to even get near being a Flame King.

[Fredegart]

It's true...
Kazu has a long road to run before being Flame King...
He has to learn in practice the theory about that friction thing...
Without that he doesn't even need to think about being Flame King.
=D

[Satralis]

Well you could say that he needs a lot of practice as every member of Koga atm, but also notice that usually AG people (especially main characters) have a quick breakthrough at a certain point and that means a serious rising in power. These moments are usually paired with an important determination that the hero just finds in himself and goes SSJ :D. Maybe not entirely that way but very similarly. Thus i would expect some kinda revolution in their roads that they still didnt found but in the critical moment they will attain it. Propably that will be the case with Kazu. I think that he wont be able to master the regalia but when the time comes and there will be no other choice he will use it and you know...the usual bs about courage and such... imo sg like that might happen soon.

[Fredegart]

Nice way of seeing things.
I guess that this is totally possible...
Not only for kazu, but for ikki too.
The only two that i still have hope but agito... Cause the rest it's just a bunch of dumb***es.
=D

[remanzuo]

being a King is not about finding tuners and regalia
It's all about Skill , when someone has master the skill of his/her road then that person is crowned as the King of his/her road.

If someone has become a king of a unique road that never exist before , TTT will make a regalia for him/her
If the regalia of that road already exist then that person must take that regalia from the previous King ( normally by parts war )
it can also be given from previous King to the successor like kururu and kazu

But the thing is...Kazu is still not a King because he hasn't mastered the flame road
that's why agito prohibits him wearing the Flame Regalia because of kazu present condition is still lack of skill

[par167]

When Koga had the parts war with the sabel tigers no one had any Idea that Kazu was as fast as he was .You can't guess with Kazu because he does alot out of the lime light. Spitfire gave the regalia to the person with the talent to use it.Kazu will use the flame road soon ,or else they have no chance at the tower. As far as agito if koga listened to him they would get nowhere ,they would have never beat Bohemeth thats for sure.

[Teachan]

Kazu has all the background to become the new Flame King. Spitfire, a Gravity Child (even a low one) believed this. For Spitfire, Kazu is his successor. What Kazu lacks is self-confidence. But, that's what Emily is there for. :P She's always there to encourage him, he's always there to save her.

Kazu has the biggest character development in Air Gear, from all the characters. This promises a lot for him. His way to become a king is long, but it's a certainty that he'll be the one to take the 'crown'.

And a question: Who's gonna be his tuner? Definitely not Emily. So?

[pipoy22]

Obviously, Kazu will be the Flame King and Emily won't be Kazu's tuner.
Coz Emily has the strength and determination to be a Rider and if things go well Emily will gain one of the regalias!! Hopefully, the water regalia :rofl: Since obviously she's a Power type rider!!

[flashback]

it was early on in the manga, but it was stated that at some moment that he really blossomed as a rider that it was the beginning of the birth of "somename" the flame king.... so he will def be the king but just maybe not before the tourny... anyone else remember this? or am i crazy :-P lol

[Karshu]

Obviously, Kazu will be the Flame King and Emily won't be Kazu's tuner.
Coz Emily has the strength and determination to be a Rider and if things go well Emily will gain one of the regalias!! Hopefully, the water regalia :rofl: Since obviously she's a Power type rider!!

What does being a power type have to do with anything? Spitfire and Iron Clock weren't speed types. At least, not that I know of or can tell. And Kazu's a speed type that has the flame regalia now and about to be the next Flame King.

Beside, the regalias can be tune to fit different styles and types. Otherwise, it'd be impossible to master them other than the original gravity children.

Although, I think Emily could still be Kazu's tuner. After all, Emily just wants to help Kazu as best as she can, and she probably won't want anyone getting too close to him either. Cause tuners get to be naked and touch their riders. :wink2:

Kanon is a tuner and he still rides. Akito/Agito is their own tuner.

[Skyrider]

Spitfire and Aeon were both the pinnacle of speed types.

[Wonderboy]

I think emily and kururu will be friends and hopefully, emily will be once again... determined to be a tuner for kazu because of the influence of kururu :D

[Karshu]

Spitfire and Aeon were both the pinnacle of speed types.

Hmm.. Maybe.. I never really figured out Spitfire's type since you only get to see him ride twice. Once when he introduces himself to Ikki, and during the battle against Nike.

Aeon was.. Well, he stood still and hid himself when we first saw him. Though, I guess he is the speed type. I remember something about him being able to punch Kazu so fast, that Kazu couldn't move cause his eyes were just straining to keep up. Other than that, I just thought he had some special ability to control time, or to simulate the ability through tricks. Such as making your opponent freeze up so it looks like he pauses time, or tricking your opponent to move slower so it looks like you're moving faster.

[pipoy22]

What does being a power type have to do with anything? Spitfire and Iron Clock weren't speed types. At least, not that I know of or can tell. And Kazu's a speed type that has the flame regalia now and about to be the next Flame King.

Beside, the regalias can be tune to fit different styles and types. Otherwise, it'd be impossible to master them other than the original gravity children.

Although, I think Emily could still be Kazu's tuner. After all, Emily just wants to help Kazu as best as she can, and she probably won't want anyone getting too close to him either. Cause tuners get to be naked and touch their riders. :wink2:

Kanon is a tuner and he still rides. Akito/Agito is their own tuner.

Hmmm, I dont think the water regalia is a speed type AT so it has to be power type?

Meh i still don't see Emily being a tuner. She's kind of physical and cheeky. So she doesn't qualify of being a tuner.

[penguinism]

Hmm.. Maybe.. I never really figured out Spitfire's type since you only get to see him ride twice. Once when he introduces himself to Ikki, and during the battle against Nike.

Aeon was.. Well, he stood still and hid himself when we first saw him. Though, I guess he is the speed type. I remember something about him being able to punch Kazu so fast, that Kazu couldn't move cause his eyes were just straining to keep up. Other than that, I just thought he had some special ability to control time, or to simulate the ability through tricks. Such as making your opponent freeze up so it looks like he pauses time, or tricking your opponent to move slower so it looks like you're moving faster.
spit, who knows what type he was we never really saw him do anything cept use the regalia to make flames lol but aeon was a speed type, just not in the same sense kazu is...

kazu is a speed type as in speed like movement running point a to b, aeon is moer speed of movement of his body...like when hes fighting kilik he was able to break free from the gem regalia by kickign the ground 1000 times a minute, if u dont call that being fast i dunno what is ;p

[Karshu]

spit, who knows what type he was we never really saw him do anything cept use the regalia to make flames lol but aeon was a speed type, just not in the same sense kazu is...

kazu is a speed type as in speed like movement running point a to b, aeon is moer speed of movement of his body...like when hes fighting kilik he was able to break free from the gem regalia by kickign the ground 1000 times a minute, if u dont call that being fast i dunno what is ;p

I thought that was Nike? Kilik was in the tower with Ikki. Nike was Sora's brother who fought Aeon and Spitfire.

Though, I think I know why you're confusing Kilik with Nike. Nike's gem road was supposed to be a copy of Kilik's gaia road. Or at least, I think that's what they said.

[penguinism]

bluh ya nike lol just woke up a couple hours ago still not fully awake xD

nike's jade road is an evolution of kilik's gaia road, it combines the gem road with wind(the natural wind ability both nike and sora share being twins)

[takumi2004]

Nikes Jade road is actually a little different from Kiliks Gaia Road.

I think this is because Nike is Soras twin. Sora was made to ride the wind road, Nike is also able to utilize some of the wind road power along with the gem road to create the Jade road.

[Karshu]

Hmmm, I dont think the water regalia is a speed type AT so it has to be power type?

Meh i still don't see Emily being a tuner. She's kind of physical and cheeky. So she doesn't qualify of being a tuner.

I think the water regalia is a speed type. Just not speed of the body, but speed of the wheels, water, and bubbles. I remember that girl saying something like "The faster the bubble spins, the stronger it is" or something. So instead of moving around, you stay in one place, accelerate the wheels, water gets kicked up and turns into bubbles, the bubbles then spins fast enough to strengthen the bubbles so it can be really hard and almost impossible to pop.

[9taileddemon]

I think that Kazu will eventually gain the strenght to become the flame king. It will probably be during a battle that he will really learn how to use it. He tends to grow a lot during battles like where he went really fast against the tigers, countered one of aeon clocks moves, and used the flame road for the first time against that Water Queen person to save her.

I think that eventually he will finally gain in power and gain more respect.

[Karshu]

I think, Kazu probably already had the power during all those times. The only problem was that he was lacking in confidence.
Kazu was already fast cause he practiced a lot, but was too scared that he'll mess up and lose it against the Tigers.
Against Aeon Clock, I don't think Kazu really 'improved' so much rather than just stayed determined. All he really did was get beaten up, run around really fast to try and 'catch up to Aeon cause he thought Aeon was using speed, then leave a trail and realized Aeon was standing still. Then get punched and fall down, with his middle finger still up.
Against the Water Queen.. Hmm.. I suppose Kazu did improve there. At first, he was too scared and lack confidence in himself and his team, but once he was ready to go, he showed a lot of potential.

[Crimson Phoenix]

I think, Kazu probably already had the power during all those times. The only problem was that he was lacking in confidence.
Kazu was already fast cause he practiced a lot, but was too scared that he'll mess up and lose it against the Tigers.
Against Aeon Clock, I don't think Kazu really 'improved' so much rather than just stayed determined. All he really did was get beaten up, run around really fast to try and 'catch up to Aeon cause he thought Aeon was using speed, then leave a trail and realized Aeon was standing still. Then get punched and fall down, with his middle finger still up.
Against the Water Queen.. Hmm.. I suppose Kazu did improve there. At first, he was too scared and lack confidence in himself and his team, but once he was ready to go, he showed a lot of potential.

I have to agree to that... previously all Kazu did was run from his problems, when he believed that he had no chance... then that battle with the Water Queen, he just suddenly shows off and pulls out the Flame Road on us.... unfortunately I also say I didnt see it comming... but it makes him a much more interesting character now

[pipoy22]

I think the water regalia is a speed type. Just not speed of the body, but speed of the wheels, water, and bubbles. I remember that girl saying something like "The faster the bubble spins, the stronger it is" or something. So instead of moving around, you stay in one place, accelerate the wheels, water gets kicked up and turns into bubbles, the bubbles then spins fast enough to strengthen the bubbles so it can be really hard and almost impossible to pop.

yeah you need the speed of the wheels, but that doesn't mean it's a speed type AT and I remember in the first parts of AG when you push down your ATs the faster the wheels will spin. Well Om doesn't look like a power type but the Water Regalia isn't speed type.

[Fran]

If Kazu is finally the flame king, who is gonna be his tuner... XD
i'm looking forward to see Emily's face!!!! :lol:

[Karshu]

If Kazu is finally the flame king, who is gonna be his tuner... XD
i'm looking forward to see Emily's face!!!! :lol:

Emily's face?

Hmm.. Will it be Emily who gets to be naked with Kazu, or will there be a girl from TTT that gets to be naked with him?

[Fran]

Emily's face?

Hmm.. Will it be Emily who gets to be naked with Kazu, or will there be a girl from TTT that gets to be naked with him?

we already discuss about this... Emily is more a stormrider, so i think kazu's tuner will be some girl from TTT, probably that Kururu's friend with a fang, the one who stopped Hako.

[midorika]

we already discuss about this... Emily is more a stormrider, so i think kazu's tuner will be some girl from TTT, probably that Kururu's friend with a fang, the one who stopped Hako.

What about nakayama? I think there's a big chance for her too~~~
Lolz~~
Wanna know more about other TTT's members though~~
AND simca ... I just realized I missed Simca... but oh well... i don't really mind...
I missed Ringo more than her... muahahaha~~ XDD

[Fran]

But Nakayama will need some serious training to became a tuner i think...

Yeah, i want to know more about TTT's members and why kanon is only man, is he some kind of lady's man? :D

Simca is taking sunbaths in the ship where she is :mdr:... i really miss Ringo too :(

[midorika]

Lolz sunbathing for Simca~~ Yea yea... good for her that is~~

mm.... Kanon... for some reason, I DO like him a lot~~
Especially after the display of his powerful guitar~~
Totally rocks that is... not to mention he is Ringo's tuner...
Must be something else...
I just dislike how his eyes were drawn... they could be better... :(

Yeah... Nakayama would definitely need some training... but it seems as though she has the natural talent to.. who knows~~
But anything would be nice~~ As long as the new chapters come out on a DAILY basis~~
lolz... now that's what i would like, FOR SURE~!!!
^^

[Fran]

About Kanon, dunno, i think he's too ****y, although he is a nice counterpart to Ikki, so is neutral to me. He's misterious and he has some quite actions to comment: the one when he "protects" Rika and Sora when Gabishi attacked and the whole thing about the fight between Ringo and Ikki. To me, he clearly knows more things about Genesis and SF...

And, i totally support your idea of daily basis chapters ^^

[Kumo2002]

i think there is a potenial for Ikki's team to have 4 out of 5 to end up with regalia's

Ikki (Strom Regalia)
Kuzu (Flame Regalia)
Agito/Akito (Fang Regalia)....


The final person i think might have the potenial to get a regalia....

Bucca (or however you spell his name)

I am thinking the Gem Regalia would be best suited for Bucca.....


I mean the team has to be really powerful in order to take on Genosis, Sleeping Forest, and Sora/Nike...I think that the team would have to have all its memebers (or most) be a king/queen.....Kuzu is defiently going to be flame kind...Spite has already given him the regalia...now he just needs to be reconized by the other kings that and practice more!

[pngo]

i think there is a potenial for Ikki's team to have 4 out of 5 to end up with regalia's

Ikki (Strom Regalia)
Kuzu (Flame Regalia)
Agito/Akito (Fang Regalia)....


The final person i think might have the potenial to get a regalia....

Bucca (or however you spell his name)

I am thinking the Gem Regalia would be best suited for Bucca.....


I mean the team has to be really powerful in order to take on Genosis, Sleeping Forest, and Sora/Nike...I think that the team would have to have all its memebers (or most) be a king/queen.....Kuzu is defiently going to be flame kind...Spite has already given him the regalia...now he just needs to be reconized by the other kings that and practice more!
You forgot the Pledge Queen

[takumi2004]

kururu isnt on ikki's team but she can be his tuner just like kanon isnt on sleeping forest's team hes just ringos tuner.

TTT is suppose to be a neutral group and give special treatment only to the kings

there is no storm regalia and for bucca to become the Gem king Koragasumaru would have to defeat nike and probably the rest of sleeping forest

[Fran]

Kururu's on Ikki's team, but no in her condition of Pledge Queen, same way like Ringo was beside Koga but no like the Thorn Queen, she used her position for first time in order to give Ikki some kind of lesson about how hard is the real world of AT...

Kururu IS Ikki's tunner but actually, she never has tunned Ikki's AT, there is the whole thing about the fact of wear that suit and tune Ikki... the girl has some pudor, you know... :D

TTT is a neutral group, right, but you can see how Kanon is directly involved in the match between koga and WW, Kururu is tunning someone else instead Ikki, etc...

so i think that TTT is neutral but their members have some liberty to choose... i mean, if Ikki and Ringo fight again i dont have any doubt that Kururu and Kanon will pick sides.

[Whisp]

well technically he is but until he uses the regalia he is still just kazu i supose

[p4091a]

I would say that it'd picking sides, rather, the tuners have to be loyal to the kings they are to tune, don't they?

So, overall, TTT is still neutral. But the thing is, they'll ending favouring the side which has more kings, if that's the case...

(Why has this thread turned into a discussion abt tuners? O.o Btw, I don't think Kazu should be recognised as the flame king just yet)

[penguinism]

(Why has this thread turned into a discussion abt tuners? O.o Btw, I don't think Kazu should be recognised as the flame king just yet)
good question, it shouldnt.....:lock:

[dabid]

well he's not the king yet but the successor so later in the series he mite rip someones face off we never no

[Zeriah]

well he's not the king yet but the successor so later in the series he mite rip someones face off we never no

Haha that statement pretty much sums it up.

[T.Y.]

kazu is able to ride the flame road but aint that good, really he was completely useless when Nike was kicking aeon and spit's asses. he doesnt have the skill or expeience, e lacks everything except for speed and his battle level is rock bottom. he is in no condition to be called the flame king. he should get a tuner and instead of just focusing on speed alone, he should train his body more and work on his techniques. no matter how fast he maybe he will never surpass aeon

[sabret00the]

Just to correct a mistake in this thread. Someone said that Aeon's road was the Apollo Road. That is incorrect. Aeon is a flame road user. The Aporon Road was what we got as a result of two Flame road's being used in synchronisation with each other. While the Apollo road and was actually a mere attack, the strongest attack current available on the Aporon Road. The Greek God, Apollo Helious was the God of the Sun. Which is pretty much a given in regards to where O!G got his inspiration from for that one.

Oh and no Emily isn't a tuner. Yes Nakayama is. And in terms of combat ability Kazu is just as far away from a kings level of fighting ability as Ikki. However unlike Ikki, Kazu actually had someone of of the flame road teaching him. In his next fight, we'll probably get to see some Kazu Flame Road attacks.

[Spineless Coward]

So, Ikki finally found out that the Wind Road doesn't really suit him... I was thinking, maybe Kazu will realize the Flame Road doesn't suit him either ? I mean, Ikki transformed the Wind Road into the Hurricane Road, maybe Kazu will create an hybrid road between his monstrous speed and the Flame Road ? Like, the Flamethrower Road.:eek:

[T.Y.]

kazu's speed actually fits with the falem raod because flame road requires a lot of friction to create heat and the illusion of flames which can only be created by the montrous speed he has (aeon and spit were both speed riders if i recall correctly), so kazu doesnt really have the ability to create or modify his own road

[sabret00the]

So, Ikki finally found out that the Wind Road doesn't really suit him... I was thinking, maybe Kazu will realize the Flame Road doesn't suit him either ? I mean, Ikki transformed the Wind Road into the Hurricane Road, maybe Kazu will create an hybrid road between his monstrous speed and the Flame Road ? Like, the Flamethrower Road.:eek:
If you refer back to the fight between Spitfire, Sora, Nike and Aeon. You'll see that both Flame Road riders possess insane speed. Kazu notes that at one point Aeon's speed is so fast that it's beyond his ability of sight. You'll also notice that both Flame Road riders comically compete over their speed and attacks landed. Kazu's speed definately isn't beyond that of the Flame Road.

kazu's speed actually fits with the falem raod because flame road requires a lot of friction to create heat and the illusion of flames which can only be created by the montrous speed he has (aeon and spit were both speed riders if i recall correctly), so kazu doesnt really have the ability to create or modify his own road
I don't think speed is the key to friction, though of course it helps but i don't think it's a necessity for the flame road. after all, the jade road is also reliant on sending friction through the ground.

[T.Y.]

I don't think speed is the key to friction, though of course it helps but i don't think it's a necessity for the flame road. after all, the jade road is also reliant on sending friction through the ground.
jade road doesnt need friction but insane amount of vibration through the ground to paralyze the opponents

[chaoticwings]

u guys do remember the fight with the tiger ppl that it said that Kazu was later to be known as stealth? so im guessing hes gonna be like the stealth king or something :o?
on an unrelated topic, its weird how every1 has like a big giant figure to symbolize their character(like kazu with the jet or ikki with the knight on a weird crow thingy :oh:)

[T.Y.]

^ thats some fancy bull O!G draws to represent their power or ability, maybe he likes drawing meccha?

[sabret00the]

u guys do remember the fight with the tiger ppl that it said that Kazu was later to be known as stealth? so im guessing hes gonna be like the stealth king or something :o?
on an unrelated topic, its weird how every1 has like a big giant figure to symbolize their character(like kazu with the jet or ikki with the knight on a weird crow thingy :oh:)
Aeon could move around without people seeing him. Stealth is just a nickname which has never been used since.

[HurricaneRoad]

i dont think that kazu either will be the flame king but something else.. because off the thing the most of u allready said his speed, but if creates a new hybrid road i think it will be something that deals around his speed.. but lets just read the next chapters and we will know :)

[Raenef]

currently, the one person who is closest to flame king title is Sano, a.k.a. Aeon Clock. He was the runner up to the Flame King the last time they [Aeon and Spit] competed for it.

[HurricaneRoad]

i dont think he will run the Fire Road because i think he will create a new roade like ikki did..

[Nikku]

currently, the one person who is closest to flame king title is Sano, a.k.a. Aeon Clock. He was the runner up to the Flame King the last time they [Aeon and Spit] competed for it.

True, but i don't think Aeon will ever get it. I think both Aeon and Spitfire competed for the title, but when Aeon knew he would never get it he went on his own "time" offshoot. Kazu will quickly become closest because he's heading for the regalia, not Sano's own road.

He's nowhere near capable yet, but Kazu will get the flame king title in the end.

[HurricaneRoad]

i dont think kazu will become the king fast but maybe he will become it during the Tournament..

[sakiru]

Now we know Kazu's going to get some attention. If the mention of Sano in 189 was worth noticing. He's not guiding them because he's only concerned about the flame regalia, eh? Should be a nice rematch.

[DragonTiger]

well. Kazu got only flame regalia 'cause Spitfire find him most sutied but Kazu likes speed and is speed type. maybe he find road similar to flame road. something like speed flame road. there aren't speed regealia i think

[sabret00the]

Spitfire said he gave Kazu the regalia becuase of his passion. Not his speed. There's nothing on record that says that all Flame Road users are speed riders. And there's nothing to suggest that Kazu can't master the Flame Road either.

[9taileddemon]

I think that Kazu will eventually be able to use the flame Road or what ever it is called.

Also I am pretty sure both Aeon Clock and Spitfire were speed riders so Kazu probably the best choice anyways.

I think that he will probably learn to use it during a battle. He seems to be a person who's improvement rate sky rockets during battles.

I think battles just help him get used to his own power and he slowly steps out of Ikki's shadow.
However, I still like Ikki's shadow. It is monstrous.

[HurricaneRoad]

it think that Aoen Flux is gonna try take the flame regalia from him since i think he will pronounce him self as the new flame king..

[9taileddemon]

Maybe not. At this point I think he would prefer to get the Sky Regalia over the flame Regalia. He probably belives that Kazu will be defeated by someone then Aeon will kill the tired victor and take the Regalia himself. HE does not need to raise a finger yet.

[JimmyTbh]

Maybe Aeon will train Kazu tbh he needs some1 like that atm. Kazu is the Bob in this story he lacks talent but will improve with effort and lots of training.

[Ringo]

There's a possibility that he won't stay Flame King for long.Since Iron Clock is still alive and has sided with the Bros we don't know what might follow.I mean he always wanted to obtain the Regalia of Spitfire.It had been already planned that if Spitfire gets killed the one who'll inherit the Regalia would be Kazu.What's easier than steeling them by someone who isn't a King yet and doesn't know how to use them?

About a Tuner?It's not that difficult to find one,right?

There also might be a chance that Ine will be his temporary Tuner until they find his ideal one.Wasn't she close with Spitfire?Then who's better than her to be trusted for the Regalia of Spitfire?

[JimmyTbh]

Well since it has been said that Kazu is alot like Spitfire how he runs atleast. There is a chance that it doesnt require much tunin ... Emily or that other girl could in the future become a tuner who knows.

Isnt Ironclock after the Sky Regalia? I still believe he wont betray Spitfire and Ikki. Atm it best for him to follow the Brothers like Nue and Trident.

[sabret00the]

jade road doesnt need friction but insane amount of vibration through the ground to paralyze the opponents

the properties of the gem king/jade road are that of gravity manipulation. it would explain why nike was able to suspend the rocks in mid-air and why kilik could make the bible hover. i do believe that his ability to paralyse aeon and spit was down to him just copying aeon's technique. but at this moment this is all speculation, we really have nothing to confirm it either way.

[JimmyTbh]

the properties of the gem king/jade road are that of gravity manipulation. it would explain why nike was able to suspend the rocks in mid-air and why kilik could make the bible hover. i do believe that his ability to paralyse aeon and spit was down to him just copying aeon's technique. but at this moment this is all speculation, we really have nothing to confirm it either way.

What happens when he fights in that gravity room will his ability just become usless ... Ringo ownz him den.

[Ringo]

What happens when he fights in that gravity room will his ability just become usless ... Ringo ownz him den.

Only if they fight.

[kaider]

Nike didnt suspend rocks in mid-air, it was just the pieces from the crumbling roof top, the rocks just flew up, and we had a couple of panels of slow motion. Then Sora hit em with his shockwave.

And Kiliks book was floating cuz it was at its terminal velocity, it could float even if the elevator was moving slower, but then the humans couldnt float.

And i wonder if the 0g battle happens, how will Nikes regalia work, there arent a lot of solid things to vibrate in mid-air..

On topic: I wonder what kind of speed Spit had.. We know Aeon is very fast, but we never saw Spit run fast. Makes me thing that Kazu is even faster than him on pure speed. Spit could just utilize the friction really good.

PS: i think the wheels on the flame are made of flame resistant rubber, so they provide more friction and heating, but dont wear off :D

[9taileddemon]

I think Aeon Clock could take the Regalia from Kazu. Problem is that the rest of Kogarasumaru stands in his way. We have already seen how well Pyon girl/Ceasar/Orca plan to kill Ikki has gone.

Aeon is probably waiting for the just the right moment to steal it.

Or perhaps he really doesn't care. He expects the Sora Bros to crush Kogarasumaru, get the Regalias and then Aeon runs off with Flame Regalia when Sora Bros are distracted and shows up again later to try to get the Sky Regalia.

Who knows. He is such a confusing man.

[kaider]

I think he wont be able to take the flame from Kazu, even if he tryes.. Kazu's become very attached to it and to Spitfire from his interactive program.. So if Aeon tryes to take the regalia Kazu will give his everything to protect it

And if theres a battle.. i believe that it wont be one sided with Aeons instant win.. cuz we know Kazu's trainin, and he knows most of Aeons tricks.

[sabret00the]

After giving Agito his huge awakening battle, i figure that Kazu has to get one. If he doesn't it won't be fair. I want to see one for all of the Koga before the GST. I want them to go into the GST as a formidable team as opposed to underdogs.

[9taileddemon]

I don't think it will occur. Oh Great seems to not rehash battles.

Also it is obvious that Aeon would not attack Kazu. His attacks seem to be fantastic against one person but against multiple his power decreases dramatically. If he attacks Kazu he will get in a battle with all of Kogarasumaru and even he can't survive that. Also since Kazu knows (now) a lot of Aeon tricks it might not be as effective as well.

Also his legs are probably still a little injured from the fight with Sora Bros.

[kaider]

First, are we sure Aeon even wants the flame regalia?
I dont remember what he was doin the last time we saw him

[sabret00the]

In earlier chapters he said he would return for the regalia but during the devils 30-30 he seeemd to agree with agito that he's not king material. that said i don't think orca and pyon got the idea that he wants the flame regalia from no where. so i suspect he does want it. I also don't think that him attacking kazu would automatically lead to a battle involving other people. in fact he'll probably wait for kazu to be alone and do a sneak attack. then again he could be stealing the regalia now while everyones attentions on the flood.

[JimmyTbh]

If is trying to steal the Flame Regalia its prolly because Sora told him 2. Kazu might not vs him there is still Black Flame.

First, are we sure Aeon even wants the flame regalia?
I dont remember what he was doin the last time we saw him

He killed the guy who was trying to find the Sky Regalia.

[sabret00the]

If is trying to steal the Flame Regalia its prolly because Sora told him 2. Kazu might not vs him there is still Black Flame.



He killed the guy who was trying to find the Sky Regalia.
he killed the guy who was trying to uncover the truth about nike.

and i can't see black flame winning a battle against aeon.

[9taileddemon]

Kazu plus black flame would at least be able to hold him off until help comes. Also, now that I think about it. WHo even says that Kazu HAS the Flame Regalia with him right now? Nobody has said so.

[JackApostrophe]

I doubt that Kazu would have left them somewhere else. Not after Spitfire entrusted them to him, and not after we saw how tightly he clings to them. He's not using them, though, and won't be Flame King until he does.

I have wondered if he'll do an Ikki eventually and expand on the Flame Road... like Inferno King of Blazing Road, or something.

[sabret00the]

Kazu plus black flame would at least be able to hold him off until help comes. Also, now that I think about it. WHo even says that Kazu HAS the Flame Regalia with him right now? Nobody has said so.
If Kazu can't defeat Aeon he has no place going to the GST, Aeon is only a battle level of 83 and Kazu is aiming for Sora and Nike who are approximately 300. If anything we'll see Aeon defeat Black Flame before losing to Kazu.

I doubt that Kazu would have left them somewhere else. Not after Spitfire entrusted them to him, and not after we saw how tightly he clings to them. He's not using them, though, and won't be Flame King until he does.

I have wondered if he'll do an Ikki eventually and expand on the Flame Road... like Inferno King of Blazing Road, or something.if he follows the pattern of Koga so far, he'll only actually result to using the regalia when up against huge opponents like the sora's.

[UchihaCelis]

i dunno if kazu is ready tobecome king and its gonna be interestin to find out how he reacts to aeon's betray of joining sora and nike

[UchihaCelis]

I have wondered if he'll do an Ikki eventually and expand on the Flame Road... like Inferno King of Blazing Road, or something.
:yipi: i hope he does. i mean all the main roads all seem kinda dull to me. they dont seem to sound as powerful as the new roads which are being made. its jus like the old man said, the roads are too resticting for some ppl and in my opinion that includes Kazu. Inferno King of Blazing Road...that would be one awesome road

bt before anything like that happens Kazu has to fight Aeon. Akito wouldnt allow him to become a king is he cant even beat him

[sabret00the]

i dunno if kazu is ready tobecome king and its gonna be interestin to find out how he reacts to aeon's betray of joining sora and nike

not everyone gets to choose their moments or roles in life but it's common that people will muster on and come through it as a stronger person. if kazu's now at a point where he can believe in himself then i think we should do. hell he said he'd be at a kingly level in five minutes and that was two volumes ago. i think he's way past that now.

:yipi: i hope he does. i mean all the main roads all seem kinda dull to me. they dont seem to sound as powerful as the new roads which are being made. its jus like the old man said, the roads are too resticting for some ppl and in my opinion that includes Kazu. Inferno King of Blazing Road...that would be one awesome road

bt before anything like that happens Kazu has to fight Aeon. Akito wouldnt allow him to become a king is he cant even beat him

i don't think agito judges based on who you beat but rather based on your attitudes and i'd say that kazu's attitude though wrong (imo) is enough to qualify him as a king.

[Selierei]

If is trying to steal the Flame Regalia its prolly because Sora told him 2. Kazu might not vs him there is still Black Flame.



He killed the guy who was trying to find the Sky Regalia.
I'm sorry, but I can't remember who Black Flame is. Can someone tell me please? >.<

Also, I, personally, am not sure about Aeon's intentions. So there isn't much I can add to this thread. Sorry.

[sabret00the]

I'm sorry, but I can't remember who Black Flame is. Can someone tell me please? >.<

Also, I, personally, am not sure about Aeon's intentions. So there isn't much I can add to this thread. Sorry.
Black Flame also known as Kouken is the leader of Cocoa Fire and Volcana. He's the guy with the card obsesssion who Benkei fancies but lost to Om and is now training Kazu in the art of the flame.

[9taileddemon]

Black fire or what ever his name is the head of the cola fire team. He was Spitfire's second in command.

He was the guy who we thought got killed by Om. He flirted with Benkei. He also is the guy that is always playing with cards.

Oh haha someone already wrote it down. I had the screen on the last page for awhile with out refreshing so I did not know someone posted. HA!

[kaider]

So Black Fire shouldnt be interested in the regalia.. And if hes loyal to Spit, he should follow Kazu as the new leader.. but isnt he from Genesis - mortal enemies of everyone we know - as well

[sabret00the]

So Black Fire shouldnt be interested in the regalia.. And if hes loyal to Spit, he should follow Kazu as the new leader.. but isnt he from Genesis - mortal enemies of everyone we know - as well
He and his teams left Genesis in the wake of Spitfire's death.

[kaider]

Nice.
They should join Koga as a separate division the same they were with genesis.

[sabret00the]

Koga is a team where as Genesis is more of a clan. It just wouldn't be right. Hopefully Koga will have to crush them in the GST.

[HurricaneRoad]

i think they will, but to crush GNS, they have to destroy sora and nike.. and that is gonna be a hell of a battle.. i just have the feeling that kazu will try to kill nike so that he can get revenge for spitfire..

[kaider]

Cant they just ask the police for some real guns and just shoot those 2 evil bastards..
I doubt that even with all their strength as AT kings they can dodge real bullets..
They can even get a sniper.. noone can feel a bullet comin at you with mach 3 speed from a mile away, whixh even our snipers can do.. and they live in a relative future.

That will solve all the problems, plus *veins poppin out and bloody red eyes* REVENGE!!

[sabret00the]

Given that Kazu's speed transcends that of light. i'm not sure how much use real guns are in the world of AT.

I like the idea of Nike being Kazu's final opponent though, i think Kazu deserves it and it'd be an emotional victory all round.

[kaider]

Did you just make Kazu a god?
Aeon's faster than him, and he cant move faster than a bullet
We never saw actuall guns in air gear anyway

If kazu moved even at lets say 0.1% lightspeed he could run to the next town, look for something hard, run back to the roof top, stay and look at the nice time frozen bodies of Nike and Sora for a while.. and hit em on the head with that something hard a couple of dosens of times - all in a second :D and save Spit btw

[sabret00the]

We saw loads of real guns in Air Gear, we just never saw bullets.

Also Aeon isn't faster than Kazu. Aeon invoked a time stop on Kazu but Kazu beat it by a finger and the only time that we actually saw Aeon match Kazu's speed was on the rooftop in the battle with Sora and he ended up ripping the muscles in his legs to shit as a result. At this moment in time Kazu is the fastest person in the manga. Whether it'll remain that way is another story.

As for your argument as to why Kazu isn't faster than the speed of time, it's horribly flawed and unrealistic. The fact that Kazu ran in the cube against Aeon fast enough to disappear from everyones vision says in black and white courtesy of O!G that he's faster than light. Or at the very least faster than a camera could capture, given that in the match against the white wolves he was fast enough to leave an illusionary shadow of himself, that says he's faster than the receptors of a brain can process vision which is something like 60 times in one second which makes him very fast.

[kaider]

I think youre taking the facts in the manga too seriously :)
The cube fight was all a big illusion. As we know Aeon cant stop time, hes just moving too fast for your body to make the reaction.. what kazu did just says that he can react faster than most humans.. But come on, do you seriously think he can move with that speeds..
Btw Aeon didnt even move in the cube and they couldnt see him - does that make him a magician?
And i cant even understand how you think he is faster than light.. considering that speeds that exceed light can not exist in known reality.

So if our brain processes the vision in bout 60 fps.. so all he needs is to be faster than those 60 fps.. so he may have the speed of a jet fighter, cuz if that flew by you at close range you wouldnt see it but wound get blown off by the shock wave..
And again, this is all shown to us in a kind of a metaphor.. their world is pretty realistic, so O!G wouldnt make that kind of crazyness :D

Edit: Oh and when Kazu ran in the fight with the White Wolfs i believe that Kanon caught up with him.. which if what youre saying is tru is impossible
And that panel where it lookes like he leaves his shadow behind - that was just for show, you see how he moves from that space (his silhouette)

[sabret00the]

Aeon's time stop trick is based on the vibrations sent through the ground to your body, hence why Nike called it a little trick that wouldn't work twice and countered it sending his own vibrations through the ground which were stronger, which in turn Aeon done and both were frozen to the spot.

As for whether i think Kazu can seriously move at those speeds, i don't see what that has to do with anything, do i seriously think someone can have their face ripped off and still skate? do i think someone can be hit by a truck and still fight? do i think that someone can make bubbles explode at will? come on seriously, you can't ask me about fiction versus real life and then try and use real life to support your groundless argument.

As for your edit, you're just reitterating what i said, As for Kanon catching up with Kazu, you'll see that Kazu's problem during the whole fight was his inability to lead the fight which would suggest he didn't maintain his top speed. Kazu's problem is he doesn't like standing out or shinning too much. The crowd knew he could've won Koga the match if he was willing to go all out and lead from the front but he chose to 2 of Clubs instead.

[kaider]

Aeon send vibrations thru the ground to counter Nikes attack.. we were never told what exactly happens when he says his "Time" phrase, so we dont know how the whole trick works..
Im not saying that real life should support my argument.. im not trying to argue at all, i just wanted to state my opinion about what you said in the begining bout Kazu moving at light speed, that is all.

Oh yea.. bein hit by a truck and still goin on, and makin bubbles with enouigh pressure to explode (bubbles can pop if you flick your fingers, but they dont explode) - is deffinitely fiction. But people can skate just with their faces ripped off, the face isnt connected to thir legs :D it just hurts a lot when its gone.

Sorry to have angered you. I never intend to be tha cause of any arguments, it just happens a lot around me.

And you absolutely right bout Kazu and bout him not liking to stand out.

And that is a good start to me asking "why is he afraid to do it, when he can do so much?" and gettin a lot or reading other posts to get my answer..

[sabret00the]

I apologise for sounding so aggressive, you definitely didn't anger me. i was having fun. this was thread was the highlight for a slow thursday :)

[HurricaneRoad]

i think he will make his debut with the flame regalia in the tournament..

[UchihaCelis]

i think so as well bt i think we wont see him use it until he (hopefully) fights nike. for me, kogarasumaru are gonna have to keep the regalias they have as a secret weapon or something or else they wont get very far if they rely on them too much

[kaider]

Yup, Kazu wearing the Flame in the tournament is a very good chance. Tho we havent seen him train to use it, but then again he cant really use it, cuz hes not tuned to it.
So either he gets tuned (for which they should chain Emily to a chair, and put her in a dark sealed room, so she doesnt find out that someone tuned him).. or he doesnt use it in the tournament, which would be also nice, cuz it will give him the chance to use it after in the furute and that means - more manga for us..

[sabret00the]

We have seen him train to use the Flame Regalia, hence all the black soot on him after his sessions with Kouken, it's why i'm so excited to see him get a little focus after this thing with Agito finishes.

[kaider]

Ooooohhh.. ure right.. totally forgot bout that!
But he cant still use the regalia itself, he not tuned :/
But he seems to be gettin some helluva training to utilize the flame tho
Hope for a focus on him after the whole Orca arc finshes too

[HurricaneRoad]

i think all their trainings are like hell, or what would else be the reason to send them to train for so long??.. but the only regalia that they know that they have is the fang regalia, and the news have already spreat that ikki is the new stormking..

[sabret00the]

It looks like the length of this little training session will be a week in total by the time it's finished. I'm guessing they'll get a challenge or two before the GST too. As for Kazu being tuned to the fang regalia. I believe that's where either Akito or Simca will come in, maybe even Ine.

[kaider]

You mean the Flame regalia :)
I doubt Simca is allowed to go within 1 km of Koga..
Ine will be a good choise, cuz she knows the parts.. But its time Kazu got his own tuner

[JimmyTbh]

Simca is a Cripple ... Atm she seems to be recovering fast, But thats for another topic. There are alot of Tuners we havnt seen yet ... But there is 1 problem Emily :). Kazu getting a Tuner might damage the relationship like Ringo & Ikki.

i think all their trainings are like hell, or what would else be the reason to send them to train for so long??.. but the only regalia that they know that they have is the fang regalia, and the news have already spreat that ikki is the new stormking..

Im pretty sure Sora is aware who has the Flame Regalia. Only the Storm Regalia will be a secret

[kaider]

I dont think Emily would get that mad.. if they explain to her properly, what the procedure is.. plus Kazu would just get a tuner for tuning.. Like Nue for example - he seems not to take the tuning very personally - its just a job for the TTT team.
Though i might understand the possible outburst from Emily - another woman, close to her man, wearing nothing but a paperthin suit, touching him... lol
But i doubt it will damage their relationship

[JimmyTbh]

No it will just put the tuner life at risk, They have to put a huge sign on Kazu (Tune at ur own risk) :) Lol i just realized this but the tuner chair thingy kinda looks like a dentist chair :)

[kaider]

Well not all tuners have to be like lovers or sorta.. just put Kazu in the chair, let the girl do her listening and thats all.. I dont know how it works, but its supposed to somethin with sound, and the working of the ATs in tune with the rider, right..
And if Emily cant take it, then why doesnt she become his tuner, but she cant do that..

[JimmyTbh]

She could i guess, When Kururu started she didnt have much expernce. Right now its not really Important Kazu isnt even ready 2 wear them yet.

[kaider]

Well if he could wear him, he could get some time to know the shoes and get used to them.. but now they would hurt a lot.. maybe the shoes arent his shoe size number..

Lol maybe the whole tuning from king to king part is about changing the shoe size number, so it fits on the new persons leg.. That would be a very simple explanation to the whole mystic stuff bout kings and tuning :D

[JimmyTbh]

Spitfire was complaing about his AT being small, But not much different. Kazu putting on Flame Regalia would end up like http://www.tultw.com/pics/wile045.jpg

[kaider]

Didnt the Flame regalia produce illusionary flames..
But it looks like the most normal of them.. heat, friction - all in the world of reality.. let it stay that way :D we need to have at least one real thing in a world of fiction where skate shoes can blow cars away apparently, and all people have super human muscles in their legs so they just that high with skates that have no jump boosting mechanics what so ever..

[JimmyTbh]

I dont understand that how can illusionary flames light a Cigarette ??

[kaider]

I ment those big big flames that look like they burn you up
Anyway its too tough to think..
Kazu should just put em on and roll with it, but i hope he learns enough to be on par with high level riders..
Was gonna say that shoes dont make the rider, but remembered that when Ikki received his proto-cores it was an instant level up and he could run on water.. May be the same thing will happen with the Flameboy

[JimmyTbh]

Thats another thing how can he hurt himself ... when there illusonary flames ... god my brain dieing Oh!G always does this, With his bad physics and plot holes everywhere.

[kaider]

Well maybe only the regalia can produce illusionary flames appart from real ones.. and his normal ATs can do only real flame..

[JimmyTbh]

No didnt spitfire light Former Pledge Queen Cigerette with his flame regalia. I guess it does Create flames but the Regalia just amplifies it << I think thats word im looking for. I really should think b4 I ask questions lol Im ussally the 1 answering them :).

[JackApostrophe]

I ment those big big flames that look like they burn you up
Anyway its too tough to think..
Kazu should just put em on and roll with it, but i hope he learns enough to be on par with high level riders..
Was gonna say that shoes dont make the rider, but remembered that when Ikki received his proto-cores it was an instant level up and he could run on water.. May be the same thing will happen with the Flameboy
Well, remember the ratio we were introduced to a while back. The ATs and the Storm Rider should be at the same level, so when your abilities improve to a certain point you need better ATs to support you. Ikki has reached the level where he needs a Regalia, but Kazu isn't there yet. So if he were to use the Regalia, he'd just end up hurting himself - especially since they haven't been tuned to him.

Oh and you don't need actual fire to light cigarettes. Just intense heat will do the job.

[GuardianWolf]

kazu is one of my favorite characters but like many, i never expected him to become a king. doesnt seem the type does he? but he clearly has the potential to be. he really does need a tuner considering how fast the gram scale tournament is coming up.

[kaider]

I hope he gets the Flame regalia damaged.. so that after they can put little jet boosters on it :D

[Seawolf]

I wanna see Kazu become the next Flame King. I think though he is gonna go at it his own way, kinda like how Ikki is the Hurricane King(or is it Storm lol forgot)

[JimmyTbh]

I doubt he will take a different road ... unless the Flame Regalia is totally Destroyed. Ikki would prolly still be Wind king if Sora didnt betray him ... I doubt Spitfire will betray Kazu.

[kaider]

With Spit bein wormfood and all for now.. the chance of him betrayin Kazu is pretty slim :D

[sabret00the]

I think a lot of you guys are being ignorant of the manga's history in a regards to kazu.

ikki only invoked his infinity atmosphere once without regalia before using the bagram and the same stands for kazu.

then there's the fact that he had to be trained on how to use it, which is where kazu is now.

and even after being taught how to use the wind properly, he's unable to get his AT to invoke the infinity atmosphere (granted he can use itwith his hands). all in all ikki is no further ahead than kazu and the only one from koga who is able to do with normal AT's what normal guys require regalia to do is agito.

if after his training session he'll need to rely on the regalia to invoke the infinity atmosphere of the flame road then he'll only be as good as ikki, however if he can battle without regalia using the flame road then he'll have surpassed ikki. given all that I fail to see why people constantly look down on him, talking about him hurting himself and what not.

and also, I understand why people want to talk about him requiring a tuner, but he doesn't need one yet and if he can get to agito's level whereby he can do everythibg the regalia can do in normal AT's. he can leave finding a tuner till then.

[kaider]

Infinity atmospheres are the special skills that only regalia provide. A rider cant possibly do an attack like that without his regalia... Agito being the only exception so far.

I dont think we're lookin down on him, as far as i can tell hes one of the best at his level.. And he is able to use the flame without the regalia, cuz all of the flame road riders can do that, from what we know. It wasnt us who said he will hurt himself, it as said in the manga :D

And hes nowhere near Agitos level, and even Agito needs a tuner.. But Kazu will deff need one if he ever wants to use the flame regalia, thats a given.

PS: When did Ikki invoke the IA without Bagram? Weve seen only one IA for the wind regalia, and Ikki did it one with the regalia on.. i guess i need to reread the manga again :D have nothin to do anyway

[sabret00the]

creating he flames is invoking the infinity atmosphere. and ikki dne so when he initially saw the wing road with the help of the electic of the train. also agito was being his usual prick self, let's not forget that he used the untuned regalia in the devils 30-30 and the bagram wasn't tuned to ikki either, neither hurt themselves. also if spit could invoke the IA without the regalia he wasn't worthy of being a king and that meant he practically commited suicide when he went back to fight the sora's after dropping off kazu.

anyway, main point; invoking IA isn't reserved for regalia afaik.

[kaider]

But the IA is the name of the special attack a regalia holds.
When Ikki "saw" the road, what did that have to do with IA at all.. that was the road. Was he able to fly over water with normal ATs - no..

Agito tunes his regalia, his twin does that for him, and they "do it" offscreen :D And both of the new Bagrams were made for Ikki, so they didnt need initial tuning prolly. When Sora stole it he needed tuning after that.

So technicly we havent seen any IA invocations except Agito without using a regalia.
In Kazus case - like i said, every flame road rider should be able to produce flames, hell even Agito is able to produce a pretty good fire.. the IA of the flame was named Infinite Inferno or something, and that was more of the lines of a huge big ball of burning.. shame it got blown away so easy :/

So the IA so far are only the special unique attacks that kings do when they use their regalia.. anything else is just "imitating the ways of the road"

[sabret00the]

in a rush, so can't reply properly but when spit done that trick it said IA on the screen. IA is not a special attack at all, it's something high level riders invoke.

[kaider]

Youre right.. it is something that only high level riders do, more precise - its something only Kings do.. it was said that what kings call the IA is a move that utilises part of the air around them, and then they can do the special attacks..

Anyway, maybe were both right, but so far weve never seen anyone except kings do stuff like that :) But im guessin in the future we might see them perform outstanding feats without regalias simply cuz theyre strong and the main chars of the story :D

[kaider]

i'm not in agreement about kings popping up out of no where, thus far we have nine kings including ikki and that's it, even o!g questioned the legitimacy of gabashi as a king.
also custom AT's mean nothing, benkei's staff is one in itself. they're just special AT's by design.

Yea that i dont deny, however there have officially been named 11 kings for now, and it was said that SF NOW is composed of 8 kings, so their masked riders could be kings, thats what i assumed anyway, and if you look at Genesis members that were introduced as team leaders and for example Orca and his sis.. they all seem as kings or at least king level riders
Thats why i said that kings have been poppin out often, the original 8 are still the real ones. But there are some king level riders that arent kings, so we never know who O!G chooses to name a king and who will stay just a strong rider :D

Thats even cool, cuz now Kazu holds the title of one of the original kings, while his team leader is one of those new "lame" kings :D (not that he's lame)

And i wonder how can Gabishi be doubted as a king.. he is awfully strong, he has his regalia (which usually gives him the title), and face it - hes cool :D

Also just so i clarify my statements - by "custom AT" i mean really custom, as in it can do what no other can do. Yes Benkei's staff counts as one too, but het boots don't for example

[sabret00the]

I actually think that nue will be the first king that kazu owns. he's far to reliant on his regalia to be around till the end of the story.

in regards to gabashi, he's definitly king level, I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the last ten fighters left in the GST.

[kaider]

We'll see
Will the GST have 1v1 battles?

[sabret00the]

the pic showed little round rooms a lot like the cube battles so i'd assume so.

[JimmyTbh]

It will prolly be a whole bunch on new battles ... It would be pretty boring if they all just had 1vs1 and long as well, I'm hoping for all vs all lol like a royal rumble.

Getting off topic, But this is what happens when Kazu is gets left outta chapters.

[sabret00the]

Well the Orca battle has ended and it's time for a new volume to start (hope that's not considered a spoiler).

So Kazu has a huge chance of getting the focus now.

[kaider]

That would be nice.. unless the focus goes to you know who again

[sabret00the]

Nah i think/hope that's all over and done with. Unless you mean Ikki, him getting the attention would just be disappointing. Buccha or Kazu or i'll be unhappy.

[Selierei]

Buccha needs page time more than Kazu. At least we know for sure what's lying in Kazu's future and how he's been training. Buccha seriously needs development.

Onigiri too, but he might just remain a comedy character.
Of Kazu, Buccha, and Onigiri, I'd prefer for Kazu to get page time. However, it is true that the other two do not get much, either.

But, personally, I'd be fine if none of them ever did get much page time. XD They aren't characters I care much for.

[Selierei]

too true
Thanks for that. XD I hate to say it, but I just don't care about Buccha or Onigiri at all. Kazu, a little, since he currently has the Regalia. If he didn't, then I wouldn't care at all. XD

[sabret00the]

interesting... I like buccha and kazu a lot, they're my favourite characters. I like them both a lot more than ikki. I had no idea people disliked more than onigiri.

[Selierei]

interesting... I like buccha and kazu a lot, they're my favourite characters. I like them both a lot more than ikki. I had no idea people disliked more than onigiri.
...Uh...Just as a side note, I don't really like Ikki, either. XD I like so few characters...It's sad. I generally only like 1 or (rarely) 2 characters of a manga. The others, I'll either feel neutral about or I'll find them to be okay. And, in rare instances, I will dislike them. XD I play favorites with manga characters...

[JackApostrophe]

Of Kazu, Buccha, and Onigiri, I'd prefer for Kazu to get page time. However, it is true that the other two do not get much, either.

But, personally, I'd be fine if none of them ever did get much page time. XD They aren't characters I care much for.
Kazu is my favourite character, actually, but he doesn't need page time at the moment. We know that he's talented, we know what Road he runs, and we know that he's heading towards becoming the full fledged Flame King. All we need from him is the occasional reminder that he's progressing, like when he came back from training covered in soot.

But Buccha and Onigiri need development, or they're going to be horribly left behind. Kogarasumaru is a team, and it needs to be balanced. That means all its members need to at least reach a level where they aren't an embarrassment. Agito is a King, Ikki is an uncrowned King and Kazu is a future King, but Buccha doesn't even have a Road!

If they were shuffled off and never seen again, that would be one thing, but considering they're still going to be in Kogarasumaru's main team, they really need to be shown progressing.

[kaider]

...Kazu, a little, since he currently has the Regalia. If he didn't, then I wouldn't care at all. XD

So... you only care bout the boys with cool toys :D

On a side note: Kazu should take his hat off permanently, that thing's not cool.. Or at least he should buy a nice lookin one and grow longer hair to stick out from below in the back of his head :D

[JackApostrophe]

So... you only care bout the boys with cool toys :D

On a side note: Kazu should take his hat off permanently, that thing's not cool.. Or at least he should buy a nice lookin one and grow longer hair to stick out from below in the back of his head :D
The hat is the seal on his awesomeness. His coolest scenes either have him taking the hat off first, or it coming off on its own. When he beats up the former gang leaders, when he wins the race, when he manages to hit Aeon Clock, when he uses his speed on Om and runs the Flame Road for the first time... they all have the hat coming off.

[kaider]

So whats the conclusion.. BURN THE HAT :D
Perma-awesomeness
Whos is he.. like.. Kenpachi, with the seal and all :D

[Selierei]

So... you only care bout the boys with cool toys :D

On a side note: Kazu should take his hat off permanently, that thing's not cool.. Or at least he should buy a nice lookin one and grow longer hair to stick out from below in the back of his head :D
Not quite. Characters like Kazu and Ringo (for me) are only liked because they are important. Otherwise, they'd be, more or less, no different from characters like Yayoi (until recently, that is. Remember just how very minor she was! XD). If they did not have Regalia, then they wouldn't be as important. And that is why I pay closer attention to Kazu then I do to Onigiri or Buccha.

[sabret00the]

I personally don't get the regalia appeal given that kazu will probably do an agito and refuse to rely on the regalia until the GST finals.

for me, kazu was always just a more interesting character with more main character appeal than ikki.

kazu's progression feels the most natural in the manga and that's what makes him a joy to read. also the fact that his wins aren# assured and all his accolades were actually earned.

[Selierei]

I personally don't get the regalia appeal given that kazu will probably do an agito and refuse to rely on the regalia until the GST finals.

for me, kazu was always just a more interesting character with more main character appeal than ikki.

kazu's progression feels the most natural in the manga and that's what makes him a joy to read. also the fact that his wins aren# assured and all his accolades were actually earned.
...The reason the Regalia has an appeal for me (in Kazu's case, that is) is because it marks him as an important character. They don't give those to just anyone. And that is the only reason the Regalia appeals to me in this case.

I don't find Ikki or Kazu to be more interesting than the other. They appeal to me the same.

[kaider]

It IS time for Kazu to step out of Ikkis shadow, and become a good front tier character.. And again, thats where the burning of the sidekick hat comes in :D

The kingship and regalia certainly make him a bigger fish

[sabret00the]

The thing is, Kazu needs to learn to compete with Ikki for that as opposed to trying to keep up with Ikki and i'm not sure whether or not O!G has figured that out yet.

[Dima]

Spitfire said it himself.

Also wikipedia has "Flame King" at Kazu's page so...yeah.

[burnedalive]

Wikipedia isn't always right...but spitfire said himself, when sora an nike had interrupted them.

[Sendo]

dont know if this was talked about before, but Kazu is going to leap ahead very soon.

most likly right after the Battle with orca.

because remember him saying somthing about a person wanting only the boy with the flame regalia?
we all know that that person is going to be Aeon. and we all know that there will be this freaking big revalation and Kazu will either kill him or defeat him out of revenge for Spitfire. and maybe then the had will be burned. during the fight its self.

quick question. Spitfire was a avrage gravity kid. better then most in fact till his legs were injured by somone and he was never able to get to his full stregnth again right?\

I just cant seem to remember if thats real or if its somthing I made up.. lol

[JackApostrophe]

Spitfire was one of the best GC, presumably, since he was a member of Sleeping Forest and all. But he was indeed injured and lost a lot of his power, as well as his title. He later regained the Flame Regalia, but never got back up to his previous level.

And you can't ever rely on Wikipedia. They're taking the attitude that because he has the Flame Regalia, Kazu is the Flame King, but that's a simplification - he can't be the Flame King in truth until he's able to actually use the Regalia.

[kaider]

What i wanted to say is that.. for example Ikki is acknowledged by the people around him as the storm king, noone even talks bout regalia there..
So if Kazu is the same, that means he can still hold the title of flame king.. and he didnt lose his regalia in a battle or somethin, it was stolen - which happens a lot in the world.. :)
Now he must show his skills to retrieve the hot-wheels back - and that means we need to see some Kazu fights! The guy has been in the corner for a long time..

[sabret00the]

I gotta go with the whole, someone else has the regalia so kazu is no longer flame king. funny thing was, even with the regalia no one called him the flame king. unlike ikki he weren't allowed to just put on the regalia and cause tons of reckless colateral damage. so while kazu remains the flame prince, flame king he isn't.

also, kazu and buccha both really need battles, only problem is, I wonder how they'll get them without the focus falling on agito and/or ikki. the only thing I can think of is to use spitfire's suggestion of fighting for other teams.

also, i'd like to see kazu go ballistic at kouken next chapter, have a mini battle to prove he's surpassed kouken and then reject kouken's mentoring from there on out, queue the birth of a focused reawoken kazu.

[Sasaun]

ive got fifty on them making another new road for kazu to be king of. probably like the stealth road or somethin ahha

[kaider]

The ultra-sonic road :D
I wonder, how long will it take him to break the sound barrier...

[remanzuo]

ive got fifty on them making another new road for kazu to be king of. probably like the stealth road or somethin ahha

well you can say that's the stupidity of kazu,
he should make a new road like Ikki and crowned himself as the king of that road
L.O.L

[silveray7]

Oh! Great did relate him to a fighter jet, So a road with the characteristics of a F-22 Raptor will make him extremely bad ass.

[kaider]

So the road must be.. like.. 20 meters long, 13 meters wide, have 30 tons of thrust, a speed of mach 2 and the ability to decimate a town (depending on armaments) :D
Sounds like a nice road to ride on..

Btw wasnt Kazu compared to a older model fighter.. cuz i think the f-22 is pretty new

[stormking91]

i think he is spitfire said he wanted him to be the new flame king and he has the Regalia and if ive read the read the chapters right you have to have the Regalia to be recognized as a King and Kazu has that

[aquielleoz]

i think he is spitfire said he wanted him to be the new flame king and he has the Regalia and if ive read the read the chapters right you have to have the Regalia to be recognized as a King and Kazu has that

Do you want us to spoil you? :D

We've seen the raws. GRAGH!

[sabret00the]

Do you want us to spoil you? :D

We've seen the raws. GRAGH!
:lol:

though i'm against the idea of kazu getting a new road, the new chapter leads me to think he will revolutionise the existing flame road but keep the name in homage to spitfire. i have a feeling that fetish girl will be his tuner.

[stormking91]

so dose that mean hes not a king any more cuz faggot clock stole the Regalia

[nue56]

kazu aint the new flame king yet becuz he didnt get the tittle only the regalia and not everyone has heard that he has it yet

[aquielleoz]

so dose that mean hes not a king any more cuz faggot clock stole the Regalia

did you read the posts that came before these? -.-'

[t@ggy]

Well now dat Aeon clock has stolen the flame regalia means that is'nt he the new FLAME KING coz nike stole the gem regalia from kilik n is called the GEM KING

[sazo]

aeon isnt the flame king because he only stole the regalia he didnt win it from kazu, so even if he has the regalia he isnt hailed as the flame king b/c he didnt earn it. whatever, who cares about flame regalia..................hatch venom is the best

[DeadEnd]

Nah... For intensive purposes, Aeon is now the current "Flame King" and I put that into quotes for the fact that 1) he current is the holder of the regalia, and they said that Kingship is (basically) determined by the 8 holding Regalia, and with that said, he has the Flame Regalia, so he should be the new king not necessarily deserve. To leave the fact open that Kazu is the one that deserves the title--Spitfire acknowledged he was the one that had the desire, the one edge, to melt all, whereas Aeon was discredited by Spitfire somewhere along the lines that he just doesn't cut it in the end... The only difference between the two is the skill difference (which'll close up soon enough. Probably in the Grand Scale...) So... Yeah.

[Imprisoned Wind]

Aeon stole the regelia. Maybe he'll combine apollow road and fire road... that would be sick.

[aquielleoz]

Aeon stole the regelia. Maybe he'll combine apollow road and fire road... that would be sick.

isn't the apollon road already a combo using the fire road (and that time thing of Aeon)?

[sazo]

i sometimes imagine ikki and kazu making a fire tornado or something...............................that would b kool (way off topic)

[remanzuo]

isn't the apollon road already a combo using the fire road (and that time thing of Aeon)?

I think what that guy meant is Aeon stop time while flaming here n there
Apollo road that is done by 1 person

i sometimes imagine ikki and kazu making a fire tornado or something...............................that would b kool (way off topic)

not sure if that can happend coz wind shuts fire
that's what sora did to spitfire

but it's a cool Idea, I wonder OG is able to made it flaming tornado

[Selierei]

No, wind will only put out fire if it's incredibly strong. Otherwise, it will fan the flames. So it is possible, assuming Ikki controls the power of his wind correctly.

[Imprisoned Wind]

the fact is, right now, Aeon has the regellia... that means, he is king.

[sabret00the]

the fact is, right now, Aeon has the regellia... that means, he is king.
Kazu had the regalia and he wasn't king, so unless your name is Ogure Ito, i really don't think you should be making declarations that go against the actual manga as if you have any more proof than anyone else.

Also you're referring to unscanlated material so you should be using spoiler tags.

sabret00the, you just repeated what I said, more or less. >.> So may I ask what Naruto has to do with this? I've read all that is out so far, but I still don't get what you're trying to say. XD I am dense. Also, when I said, "So it is possible, assuming Ikki controls the power of his wind correctly." I was referring to an Ikki-Kazu combo attack. <.< Wanted to make sure that that wasn't misconstrued. In all, I'm just typing this cause your post confused me. XD
My apologies, read your post wrong >_<!

[Selierei]

XD Don't worry about it, sabret00the. Thanks for replying and clearing that up. ^.^ One less mystery for me to ponder...What an odd world this is. XD

[Ebiyu-D]

the fact is, right now, Aeon has the regellia... that means, he is king.

Kings/Queens in their respective roads are the ones with the most priority and RIGHT to use Regalias, but Regalias are not the reason why they are called kings... The Kings Regalias are just special weapons made for them to use.

So even if a Regalia was stolen,borrowed or passed.. unless the "Title" too is passed down or earned... they will not be kings~ thats the way i see it...

Did spitfire passed down the title of Flame King yet? or it was just the regalia that he gave and left him a message "to be" the next flame king? hmmm i forgot lol

[sabret00the]

the imcumbant flame king is making ikki angry with his ability at the moment and even his sempai said that kazu would win in fight against ikki if he ever got serious. it's an exciting time.

[Skarpile]

I think it'll take some time for Kazu to finally be the new flame king. He would have to train more, find a tuner, blah blah blah..., and he would also have to retrieve the flame regalia back away from Aeon.

[kentarou_san]

at least he's got the flame regalia, and he has been recognized already as the flame king... still he isnt enough 4 spitfire and maybe aeon

[Skarpile]

at least he's got the flame regalia, and he has been recognized already as the flame king... still he isnt enough 4 spitfire and maybe aeon

In the last arc, Aeon stole the Flame Regalia away from him. He would have to get it back if he wants to be given the title "Flame King".

[kaider]

Technicly he doesnt need the regalia to hold just the title, if hes recognized by everyone as the flame king.. but yea, he must get it back, otherwise what king will he be if ce couldnt do it :D

[kentarou_san]

In the last arc, Aeon stole the Flame Regalia away from him. He would have to get it back if he wants to be given the title "Flame King".

well, technically he can be flame king just with spitfire's recognition, and anyways i guess he'll beat aeon and get back the regalia

[Ninja-Kai]

I believe Kazu has yet to fully earn the title...

He let Aeon steal the Regalia...We'll see how the story develops further...

[sabret00the]

He didn't quite let Aeon still the Regalia.

Anyway on an unrelated note

This is in regard to the upcoming raw (201)

Kazu has mastered time it seems.

[kaider]

Its bout time flameboy did somethin...
So now what.. he beats Ikki, then the latter says "hu hu hu... you have grown, young one" and grabs some babe's asses again :D

edit: ..i heard the word raw somewhere here...? *looks for clues*

[sabret00the]

where did u get the raw???
i wanna read it as soon as possible...



what do you mean by mastered time??
the raw's not out yet, there were just some very vague spoilers.

[sabret00the]

Its bout time flameboy did somethin...
So now what.. he beats Ikki, then the latter says "hu hu hu... you have grown, young one" and grabs some babe's asses again :D

edit: ..i heard the word raw somewhere here...? *looks for clues*


from what i can make out of the spoilers, ikki owns kazu for the chapter and then the chapter ends with kazu saying "time".

Edit: can a mod merge these posts please. i didn't mean to press submit on this one.

[chozen]

kazu was good before he got the regalia. he was super fast and is really close to ikki lvl now.

[sabret00the]

kazu was good before he got the regalia. he was super fast and is really close to ikki lvl now.
Problem was, that while he was a tidy rider. he had nothing to back it up. No tricks or attacks.

[kaider]

Well.. kazu isnt on Ikkis level if were talkin bout speed.. hes way way WAY above ikkis level in speed terns :D

hmm.. so flamebo gets owned. yea.. i can see that, the "time" thing i can also see. if the spoilers are true ofc.
it wouldnt be something unexpected :)

[sabret00the]

Well.. kazu isnt on Ikkis level if were talkin bout speed.. hes way way WAY above ikkis level in speed terns :D

hmm.. so flamebo gets owned. yea.. i can see that, the "time" thing i can also see. if the spoilers are true ofc.
it wouldnt be something unexpected :)
I was re-reading the Sora brothers vs Aeon and Spitfire. and it seems to me that Nike infers that the flame road is naturally a weak road.
So taking that into account along with the fact that Kazu isn't naturally a combat rider. I have to wonder how he'll fair in the GST let alone Ikki in the upcoming chapters. That said, if his time attack does work and he free's the girls, then he wins this battle. All in all, i think it's safe to say that Kazu can't depend on barbequing in order to win against high level enemies

[~Kururuu]

mmmm...i dont know japanesse and my english sucks...
but who is the guy that fight Kazu?
i dont think that is ikki...

[Koji]

I'm glad to see people give Kazu the respect he deserves. Once he can stop doubting himself then he can become a king. He might even be able to surpass Spitfire. Kazu was able to mimic the flame road despite only seeing it once and he was able to figure out how Spitfire created flames when they first met.

[sabret00the]

We all know that he'll surpass Spit, it's just a matter of how much by and when.

[kaider]

Of course hell surpass Spit.. hes one of the main cast :D
the flame road isnt really that hard to imitate.. you just make a lot of friction and voila - flames (and the occasional burnt rubber)

[kaider]

I believe it was him that got faster.. we know the time trick doesnt freeze anyone, that was just his point of view, and if ure moving very very fast.. other people are pretty much frozen to you :D

Oh and way to go Kazu, finally some leet skills, now he can deserve the flame title for real.

[remanzuo]

Kazu will eventually surpass SpitFire and Aeon Clock

He will show that he has the skill to become a King by Mastering Flame road without regalia
After that he will be crowned by the flame regalia



I think the story will tell that Kazu will also surpass Aeon Clock because he master both time and flame

I think the reason Aeon can't beat Spitfire is because Aeon can't master the skill of controlling Fire
Aeon need the flame regalia in order to create fire
while the story will tell that Kazu can create huge fire without regalia

[sabret00the]

I believe it was him that got faster.. we know the time trick doesnt freeze anyone, that was just his point of view, and if ure moving very very fast.. other people are pretty much frozen to you :D

Oh and way to go Kazu, finally some leet skills, now he can deserve the flame title for real.
Nope, he definitely freezes time. Read the summary, he says "oh time" and the whole crowd is frozen in their tracks as he goes to strike his first blow at Ikki stopping to throw the bat down

@remanzuo: lesson one seems to have been about restraint. i just asked for clarification on the matter, but it either seems to be about kazu holding back on creating too many flames/too much friction or it's teaching him how to stop time. sadly it'll take a few more chapters before we fully understand everything in regards to the flame road

[kaider]

I just hope, the author doesnt forget that this whole thing is about skates.. little motorized shoes. It keeps getting more and more "super human" which is starting to concern me..

@sabret00the
Well, Aeon does the same trick. And i cant possibly go down the road with time freeze cuz its just ridiculus. The "oh time" is justa figure speech, a "line", superpowered manga characters use them a lot :D

[sabret00the]

I just hope, the author doesnt forget that this whole thing is about skates.. little motorized shoes. It keeps getting more and more "super human" which is starting to concern me..

@sabret00the
Well, Aeon does the same trick. And i cant possibly go down the road with time freeze cuz its just ridiculus. The "oh time" is justa figure speech, a "line", superpowered manga characters use them a lot :D
my time theory was initially one about short-circuiting the brain with sparks and overloading the visual receptors but i know that the version which Nike used was muscle paralysis and the same goes for the version that Aeon used on Kouken. However, while that's all good and well, it would appear that, however, Kazu stops time by simply controlling the flame within somebody.

Of course that's bullshit but we'll have to wait for a real explanation a bit longer

[kaider]

Complete bullshit :D
I think that Kazu just does what all of them do - he just moves too fast for you to physically react. We can call it time stop, yea.. but lets not think it is "time stop" :)

[sabret00the]

Complete bullshit :D
I think that Kazu just does what all of them do - he just moves too fast for you to physically react. We can call it time stop, yea.. but lets not think it is "time stop" :)
That would be all fine and dandy but we've been shown and continually had the point rammed home to us, that that's not what's happening.

i.e. the continuous bubbles by people saying "shit, i can't move my body".

as a girl does this very chapter before kazu takes the baseball hat from her hand and hits ikki with it

[kaider]

Yup.. the "i cant move my body" is exactly what they think, when they cant react to the fast speeding person.. though its all made in a bizarre way, i wont back down and make my peace with people actually stopping time cuz its just so out of place.. :D

I hope someone out there explain this stuff to others and says that it has nothing to do with the time itself - than ill be happy :D

Edit: the bubbles are there to add a dramatic effect :D

[NoName]

i dont think he's being super human after all it flash backs to him being taught, which would mean that it has somethin to do with ats. Besides if you didn't like superhuman things are you sure you should be reading air gear? I mean i dont care how strong you are or how much the wind loves you YOU CANNOT BRING DOWN A HELICOPTER WITH YOUR DANG FEET

[Lukannon]

On speaking during time stop, has it occurred to anyone that that happens outside of the 'victim's' frame of reference?

That is, when Sano/whoever is 'stopping time' for someone, what they are saying isn't properly heard by the one whose been slowed. It's just them saying it.

[windwaker]

amen to that, im really glad that this much of his potential has been revealed, so hell actually be able to take on nike once he gets his regalia back. and kazu can probably beat aeon even if aeon is using the regalia.

[sabret00the]

i think he's very far away from nike's level at the moment. i do think nike will be his final opponent but he's ages away right now, even with the regalia. If Aeon is only 73 then i'd assume that with the regalia he'd probably be about 150. That still leaves another 150 for Kazu to make up and i actually think by the time he puts on the regalia he'll be around 290 anyway.

I'm already looking forward to the next team battle for Koga.

[windwaker]

ah im more speaking down the line. For awhile i will admit that i was a little worried that nike would not be his final opponent (since that honor could have just as easily gone to kilik, with the whole "motha**** stole my shoes" thing.)

but now im positive that kazu will be the one to take him down, and aeon will just be a stepping stone.

[Lukannon]

Aeon's non-regalia battle level is 82...Ikki's is still only 78, for comparison.

Regardless of Kazu's gains in the Flame Road as of now, I'd hesitate to say he's on the level of Aeon. He might be CLOSE, as close as Ikki is, but that isn't the same level.

We should also remember that there's one overwhelming advantage EVERYONE has over Kogarasumaru: experience.

[sabret00the]

I honestly think that Aeon did betray Spitfire. Basically Spitfire is dead where as Aeon isn't.

Also in regards to the battle levels, no one was arguing. in fact we were all agreeing. Though i do disagree with you about their irrelevence. The issue was raised by Hako for good reason.

[Lukannon]

Battle levels aren't absolute, period, because there's still things as 'plothax' and 'breaking the rules' and 'growing in the middle of a battle.' But the point of a battle level is to have a good handle of a person's strengths at AT. That's all.

I've been a little curious, actually, what happened to Aeon's hand? Before the Takeuchi bros. finished 'them' off, Aeon got his hand shot through with a big gaping hole. How'd that work out?

[windwaker]

Cybernetic hand maybe? i mean a hand should be nothing compared to two legs. and on the topic of battle levels, whens the last time kazus has been shown?

[kaider]

Good points.

I didnt mean to say that Kazu should be running, i just gave an example of what can be considered as a flaw in battle levels :)
Now we need to see who will be Kogas first rivals in the first stges of the tournament.

Oh just another side thing (dont flame me for OT) GC arent built for regalias, theyre built for AT in general, i really want to know how were all regalias made, cuz im sure the scientists didnt think about that. Thats it, no more OT :D

About flameboy: Im happy he got to use some cool moves, but thats just copying Aeon for now. Id like it if he got to do some more flame road related moves.

[kuuki]

Don't worry, if i did really understand the raw, the aeon skill is just one step to the complete flame road, so kazu will not stop to this. The flame makes the wind going higher, so maybe ikki will develop a skill during the battle too.
The ending must be a draw.

[icefox]

I think the tuner for Kazu is going to be Yayoi Nakayama

[Thunderlord]

Thread revived upon request. Unnecessary posts have been deleted.

[sabret00the]

Wohoo! (Even though all of those valuable posts are gone)

anyway, we've finally clarified the business regarding the time stopping trick. he doesn't go super sonic. he simply stops their motor function by stunning the nervous system.