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playsafe
08-19-2007, 08:16 PM
169 seemed corny. Lol. I have no idea why though. akri said it was "wiked'. :( I don't see it that way. Very good quality though.
Aeonsky
08-19-2007, 08:18 PM
Corny? No! It was hella cool!
penguinism
08-19-2007, 08:21 PM
birth of the hurricane road :p i cant wait to see what it produces
tekkadark
08-19-2007, 08:22 PM
I can see where playsafe is coming form, with the whole "on the battlefield" but as corny as it may seem, it still is awsome ^_^
tekkadark
08-19-2007, 08:23 PM
Now heres a question, since he's a king....where is his regalia??
playsafe
08-19-2007, 08:27 PM
apparently the hurricane road requires a high ego instead of a regelia.
penguinism
08-19-2007, 08:27 PM
Now heres a question, since he's a king....where is his regalia??
GOGO KURURU!!! :D
tekkadark
08-19-2007, 08:34 PM
GOGO KURURU!!! :D
Yea Kururu will definatly play a big part, but don't they already have an asset their not using yet...like the original Bagram cores??
tekkadark
08-19-2007, 08:38 PM
apparently the hurricane road requires a high ego instead of a regelia.
This seems very true :p...maybe he could use it as a weapon to confuse and throw enemies off guard :D
zero_profile
08-20-2007, 12:43 AM
i nearly wept when i finaly saw ikki take a different road i always like the sky king but dam hurricane road sounds so much cooler
know we have to see if he has what it takes in the next chapters
i wonder how this guy is gonna train:confused:
Hyuver
08-20-2007, 01:00 AM
ooo....
Kururu where are thou....
Why she is missing from this meeting
Is it because she must repair the bicycle that Ikki stolen?
penguinism
08-20-2007, 01:08 AM
i nearly wept when i finaly saw ikki take a different road i always like the sky king but dam hurricane road sounds so much cooler
know we have to see if he has what it takes in the next chapters
i wonder how this guy is gonna train:confused:
storm king>sky king imo...all AT riders are called storm riders, so being called the storm king....thats like being called the king of all storm riders :eek:
Seijuro
08-20-2007, 01:47 AM
ikki wont train why would he train. He is just going to stumble accross some all powerful regalia that somehow was lying around all along. Following that he will go through trails and tribulations towards the gram scale tournment ultimatly fighting and overcoming sora and gensis and sleeping forest crushing everything with his storm road and freeing the sky for all storm riders.
lonewalker1004
08-20-2007, 02:39 AM
lol... mayb kururu will make a regalia similar to sora's regalia... just lik nike and his jade road... which is similar to gem road
Wonderboy
08-20-2007, 02:42 AM
So , in the competetion, there will be more than 2 sides???
I also hope that something will be revealed about this "uncle" minami
it was said that it was him that left the 3 girls :D
ScorP
08-20-2007, 04:15 AM
heh i think ther shoul be Pig king
and i think you know who is gona be XD
Ikki for the King and kururu for the quen ;)
penguinism
08-20-2007, 04:39 AM
So , in the competetion, there will be more than 2 sides???
the tropheum competition is basicly a free for all to the top of the tower, because of sleeping forests obvious advantage in those zero gravity areas theyve never had a challenge before...but genesis is full of gravity children too, and then theres ikki :p so there are 4 sides now: SF, Genesis, whoever sides with ikki, and basicly every other B or higher grade AT team
smoosh
08-20-2007, 04:48 AM
ahh its getting soo much better cant wait cant wait!! but eitherway this chapter was a bit....dull? except the hurricane road part ^^ soo cool!! hmm and maybe the part where nue and the other gravity children remove their contacts :D
Satralis
08-20-2007, 04:47 PM
slowly it will turn out that everyone apart from Koga are secret grav children...
Btw does anyone know how often does Tenjou Tenge come out in jp? Cause i have this feeling that when the story should closing to its end, the raws will come much slower while OG will start a new story...
Nikku
08-20-2007, 05:22 PM
slowly it will turn out that everyone apart from Koga are secret grav children...
Btw does anyone know how often does Tenjou Tenge come out in jp? Cause i have this feeling that when the story should closing to its end, the raws will come much slower while OG will start a new story...
By story do you mean a new story arc for Air Gear, or an entirely seperate manga strip?
I enjoyed this chapter too, it seems good that they haven't fergotten the roots of the series, the lower teams, the journey to learn how to ride and all the other people Ikki and co have met ^^.
Xx13thApOsTlExX
08-20-2007, 06:19 PM
How come all of the chapters lately have been in .png? Its harder to read in Imageready =(
penguinism
08-20-2007, 06:26 PM
How come all of the chapters lately have been in .png? Its harder to read in Imageready =(
im assuming u wanna open with that windows thing the image viewew...
right click page u wanna read> open with> select the way u wanna view it > click the box "always use this program"
then ull always open .png with whatever u select
chrono
08-20-2007, 07:29 PM
So , in the competetion, there will be more than 2 sides???
Yep! Everything has gone back to the Pre-Genesis story where the team was building up their skills. Which is great because now we can hopefully see the various teams literally fight it out with Koga instead of following Genesis's demands and giving Ikki lame *** tests.
Rumble King vs ???
Benkei vs Devil Lust Pig (LOL!)
Water Queen vs Kazu pt2
ANYTHING just bring back the corny jokes and action! :cool:
HavocRoad
08-20-2007, 08:00 PM
There is an error in the current scanlation of 169.
Page 2
The 'Dragon Warrior' screens of Sora and Kilik have the proper wordings reversed. The passage about Sora was written above Kilik and vice versa.
penguinism
08-20-2007, 08:45 PM
There is an error in the current scanlation of 169.
Page 2
The 'Dragon Warrior' screens of Sora and Kilik have the proper wordings reversed. The passage about Sora was written above Kilik and vice versa.
talking about page 2? its not reversed...its someones(im assuming ikki's) basicly saying what each of those characters inner thoughts are, sora is taklign about kilik, and kilik is talking about sora
playsafe
08-20-2007, 09:20 PM
yeah. I already told Aeon this over the irc but he was paying more attention to the "small" font in those small boxes i always skip over. xD
tekkadark
08-20-2007, 10:32 PM
Yep! Everything has gone back to the Pre-Genesis story where the team was building up their skills. Which is great because now we can hopefully see the various teams literally fight it out with Koga instead of following Genesis's demands and giving Ikki lame *** tests.
Rumble King vs ???
Benkei vs Devil Lust Pig (LOL!)
Water Queen vs Kazu pt2
ANYTHING just bring back the corny jokes and action! :cool:
yea, thats very true, but most of the heavy stuff won't really go on till the gram scale tourny actually happens. and theres still alot of time left before that acatully occurs. we'll jsut avhe to wait and see what happens ^_^. maybe kazu will finally be able to handle the flame road and regalia by that time :cool:
playsafe
08-20-2007, 11:05 PM
he won't. Kazu is a loser that won't succeed at all in ag. He will backstab ikki and isolate ikki once again.
A crushing blow to kazu fans.
Aeonsky
08-20-2007, 11:41 PM
There is an error in the current scanlation of 169.
Page 2
The 'Dragon Warrior' screens of Sora and Kilik have the proper wordings reversed. The passage about Sora was written above Kilik and vice versa.
I apologize for the error. Thunderlord mentioned it to me, I just didn't have time yet. It is fixed now! =D
AssassinGT
08-21-2007, 06:21 AM
he won't. Kazu is a loser that won't succeed at all in ag. He will backstab ikki and isolate ikki once again.
A crushing blow to kazu fans.
lol so is this a spoiler or a jackass comment?
Parina
08-21-2007, 09:20 AM
wahhhh, I'm so relieved that Koga has no allies anymore XD
This way they can fight for their own team, not genesis or whatever.
since this whole thing with genesis and SF ikki's real team was always in the background >.>;
GO KOGA!!!!!!!!!
btw, was it agito who named ikki's road?!
I didn't get that part |D
smoosh
08-21-2007, 10:01 AM
wasnt it the old man from the AT shop who named ikki's road?? :D
WinterLion
08-21-2007, 12:04 PM
The old man seemed to be the one to proclaim new kings and give them their roads.
Katsuomori
08-21-2007, 12:04 PM
^Yeah, it was that old man who is also Ikki's school principle who bestowed that title of the Storm King of the Hurricane Road to Ikki. Kept me wondering how important that guy is that he got that right to bestow that king title on Ikki.
The funny part is what Buccha and that pervert guy want their 'king titles' to be called. lol... that pig is better being called as the Lust King of the Smell Road rather than the Nirvana King of the Smell Road.
playsafe
08-21-2007, 12:24 PM
lol so is this a spoiler or a jackass comment?
Obviously. I'm too scared to read the raws. I think they will diminish the fun i have from reading the scans.
ikkicrow
08-21-2007, 04:33 PM
Couldn't maybe the old guy that gave Ikki his title be uncle minami???
I dont know, the thought just hit me.
still...............Ikki is super cool, he totally changed, looks way more mature.
*a crushing blow to kazu fans" frikkin FUNNY KEKEKEKEKEKE!!
Soladrin
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
hehe nice one playsafe XD
and i agree, ikki will probably become bad *** now :D
Satralis
08-21-2007, 06:48 PM
^Yeah, it was that old man who is also Ikki's school principle who bestowed that title of the Storm King of the Hurricane Road to Ikki. Kept me wondering how important that guy is that he got that right to bestow that king title on Ikki.
Well if u think about it than its obvious that he has a lot more experiance. But what i am thinking about is the fact that ATs prolly came after the first generation grav kids came out of the tower...so that means someone who rode ATs before them can not exist...only in the case if their tower wasnt the first one to operate...
penguinism
08-21-2007, 09:21 PM
Well if u think about it than its obvious that he has a lot more experiance. But what i am thinking about is the fact that ATs prolly came after the first generation grav kids came out of the tower...so that means someone who rode ATs before them can not exist...only in the case if their tower wasnt the first one to operate...
well...the technology for at's was made for the tower, technically there could have been at's before the gravity children left the tropheum, but it wasnt wide spread as it is now...the old guy could have been one of the researchers/engineers who made the AT and/or tropheum and/or gravity children
Fredegart
08-22-2007, 02:28 PM
Well...
It was strange Kururu not there cause a minute earlier when ikki was falling from the bike whe was with him till kazu save him and call people out for the meeting.
Another thing is Kazu... I think he is weak, but maybe can 'don't know how' suceed in mastering the flame regalia. Otherwise it wouldn't make much sense, right?
Ikki r0x since always. Ringo has her moments as simca. Now everything is messed up. But I think Kururu will help Ikki with his hurricane regalia and all the things may end at the gram scale.
=D
and all the things may end at the gram scale.
=D
An ominous statement but that seems true enough. I don't see much life for Air Gear after the gram scale tournament is all over unless Ikki fails and/or another story arc opens up.
Fredegart
08-22-2007, 04:05 PM
Yeah...
Although... This time I don't think Ikki's gonna fail.
Course that it could happen, but I don't think it will.
And could be nice another story after the gram scale but I don't have any ideas of what could it be...
=P
saniya
08-22-2007, 06:44 PM
was glad tht it got posted!!!was waitin for a long time hehe loads of thnks tooo them^_^.....um and yeah but the number of pages gettin shorter!..hmm was expectin this twist though...
Satralis
08-22-2007, 06:45 PM
Well actually Ikki loosing and Sora obtaining the sky regalia would be an interesting turn of events cause that way we really could see the power of that artifact-like reg and could come to a conclusion wether its possible to beat it in a one-on-one battle, or they (Ikki and co.) group up in the name of friendship and criple Sora once again :D. Also Ikki loosing to Ringo wouldnt be that big of a surprise.
Fredegart
08-22-2007, 10:10 PM
Well actually Ikki loosing and Sora obtaining the sky regalia would be an interesting turn of events cause that way we really could see the power of that artifact-like reg and could come to a conclusion wether its possible to beat it in a one-on-one battle, or they (Ikki and co.) group up in the name of friendship and criple Sora once again :D. Also Ikki loosing to Ringo wouldnt be that big of a surprise.
Well...
It's all possible to happen...
In terms ikki lost to ringo in their fight.
After all she was in the lead and calling for him who was taking much time to reach her.
But well, we don't know how much power will he have with the new hurricane (storm) regalia. Maybe he can become more powerful than nike and/or sora.
If Sora win and get the sky regalia for himself it'll be good for one thing. The manga will continue for a long time. =)
Otherwise the gram scale may be the finish.
What do you think?
penguinism
08-22-2007, 10:20 PM
But well, we don't know how much power will he have with the new hurricane (storm) regalia. Maybe he can become more powerful than nike and/or sora.
well just by goin off the names(names usually represent what they do anyway) hurricane>everything...a hurricane will destroy everything that gets in its way, so just goin by that ikki's new road will be better than any other, probably even the one windmill regalia...windmill regalia takes the wind and manipulates it into an attack cuz logically speaking thats what a real windmill does :P takes wind and generates it into power, but a hurricane(and possible the hurricane regalia) would be too much wind power for the windmill to handle
playsafe
08-23-2007, 01:45 AM
Probably after the gramham scale there will be a "liberation" of the gravity children. Ikki has to find and rescue these gravity children and has to go against the whole organization that made the gravity children. dum dum dumdum.
A possibility.
Nikku
08-23-2007, 03:17 AM
Just like the Devil jump, i can see Ikki getting badly injured while saving the world, and while he's hospitalised then other characters have a mini arc, before then opening up for a new story.
If they want to continue it, basically it would be easy for them to do so.
Fredegart
08-23-2007, 06:56 AM
I guess that's alright.
Now that you guys pointed this is really easy for them came up with a new story arc. But if the story follow the same path then last time when we saw the useless kazu fase, it'll suck.
But the hurricane road sure it's something.
Satralis
08-23-2007, 04:58 PM
well just by goin off the names(names usually represent what they do anyway) hurricane>everything...a hurricane will destroy everything that gets in its way, so just goin by that ikki's new road will be better than any other, probably even the one windmill regalia...windmill regalia takes the wind and manipulates it into an attack cuz logically speaking thats what a real windmill does :P takes wind and generates it into power, but a hurricane(and possible the hurricane regalia) would be too much wind power for the windmill to handle
Well basically there is no real connection between the names and its powers... for egs. the almighty combination of fire and time that created the world (omg what theory is that??! O.o...oh nvm) was not able to overcome one single rider and than it was simply devastated by Sora. And basically the usual way is that the wind supports the fire which we cant see here... So the hurricane road is only as strong as Ikki himself cause it borned from him. The actual meaning could lead to the conclusion is that Ikki now is able to ride even on the storm (stormking) and what Sora's bagram is basically creating was labelled as a storm...which would mean Ikki is now resistant to that (imo).
Another thing is that Ikki stated several times that he doesn't need a regalia and as things are now he wont recieve one anyways which will help to show all the stormriders that you dont need a regalia to be strong or to be able to reach the "sky"...imo
Hyuver
08-23-2007, 08:43 PM
I think after the gramscale we still might have one story arc.
Because you see I don't really think that the organization that expirementing on Gravity children will be unvalied on the tournament, and what is gravity children itself is still unknown.
Maybe after the tournament end there will be some uber villain show up and take away the sky regalia. O!G couldn't possibly end up the series just right after someone gain the sky regalia and not showing us the true power of the sky regalia
Fredegart
08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
Another thing is that Ikki stated several times that he doesn't need a regalia and as things are now he wont recieve one anyways which will help to show all the stormriders that you dont need a regalia to be strong or to be able to reach the "sky"...imo
I agree he already stated that but i don't think he won't have any regalia... After all to be a king isn't necessary a regalia? Dispite the fact that he could not need one or to show that kind of thing to all I think not wearing a regalia as a 'king' it would go against all the trophaeum theories and rules.
Well... I don't know... Maybe now could be a time to change things too...
It's something to think about and know in the next chapters (unless you already picked up some spoilers or raws over net).
=P
tekkadark
08-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Another thing is that Ikki stated several times that he doesn't need a regalia and as things are now he wont recieve one anyways which will help to show all the stormriders that you dont need a regalia to be strong or to be able to reach the "sky"...imo
i think thats just ikki being the pompus brat that ikki is...its really waht makes him a king int aht sense, that very attitude. and if i remeber correctly sora was/is the same why (only sora is a bit more nuts :p)..however i think that ikki will be able to get a regalia using the old bagram cores, but i think that it will be a somewhat different regalia than bagram it self. O!G, might use this to draw upon teh differences between the wing and hurricane road, cuz as of yet we haven't really seen any (and probably won't for a while yet :(). but i think your rigght, Satralis, in that ikki will be a symbol for all stormriders to to be able to reach the sky, but not cuz he won't have a regalia, but because of how he causes the "wind" in everyone to blow, like he did with Simca and Spitfire. he'll them all to see what A.T. is really about :P....or i might just be a romantic :p
Saiha
08-24-2007, 12:26 AM
is the old man the one giving out the names for the roads and its kings?
lonewalker1004
08-24-2007, 01:57 AM
Another thing is that Ikki stated several times that he doesn't need a regalia and as things are now he wont recieve one anyways which will help to show all the stormriders that you dont need a regalia to be strong or to be able to reach the "sky"...imo
sooo... ikki will not b able to become a king?? cuz doesnt it say dat you need a regalia to become some sort of king???
There is an infinite amount of ways we can speculate, I'd rather just trust in Oh!G to weave his magic on the future of the manga. IMHO he hasn't failed us so far. Especially in these latest chapters, I'm hooked even more to AG. No matter what spin he throws on the outcome I'll be satisfied.
king_crimson
08-24-2007, 04:02 AM
sooo... ikki will not b able to become a king?? cuz doesnt it say dat you need a regalia to become some sort of king???
nope...it's the opposite :D
when you are a "true" king, you get a regalia...
all this thing about ikki needing a regalia or not will be answered in the next chapters :)
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 07:00 AM
I have to disagree with that.
The truth up till now is that a storm rider must follow the path of the road he/she wants and when it gets the ability and the opportunity takes the position of king... Another way it's defeating the actual king to become one in his place. And maybe the last way is the way ikki got it, being nominated from nothing as a king of a new road.
But from there I guess there's need of a great amount of training, perseverance and a regalia (of course). As Agito said to Kazu, even not being a king ppl with talent can make flames come out of his AT's.
Obviously Ikki has some great talent, after all he became for an instant the wind king and show us some abilities even without his AT's but not having a regalia doesn't make him true king.
Maybe O!G make an exception now... Who knows!
=D
par167
08-24-2007, 07:08 AM
I will go back and look but I can swear the regalia picks the rider.Kazu has Spitfires flame the but cannot make it work ,just because it is given to you does not mean it will work right ?
playsafe
08-24-2007, 11:46 AM
Yup. That's why Kazu has to change himself to make the regalia work. Why do i have this nagging feeling that kazu will betray Ikki ><
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Dunno...
Since when they fought sabel tigers kazu said that he would be taking a different path than ikki... maybe he was talking about speed that he far away surpasses ikki. In this sense he is a great sucessor for the flame regalia, but he don't have talent 'yet' to handle it.
But like Spitfire was a rider from Genesis, maybe even being king kazu continue being a rider from kogarasumaru...
playsafe
08-24-2007, 01:04 PM
I just fear another sleeping forest happening again with team koga :mad:
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 02:20 PM
Something like Kilik - Sora may happen with Ikki - Kazu???
It seems quite different... Cause everyone in koga knows ikki's personality and they seem to enjoy it...
Already had a time when ppl were thinking in droping Ikki's side at that time with the potemkin guys... But when he came back with his original self everyone got pumped up...
So... Not saying it's impossible... But I find that hard to happen.
=)
Satralis
08-24-2007, 07:16 PM
Well to be a king you clearly have to own at least an infinity atmosphere. It comes before the regalia i think cause Ikki experianced several times the wing roads infinity before he got the Bagram. As of now the hurricane roads infinity atmosphere is unknown and the regalia is still a far away thing considering that the gram scale is coming soon i would guess that he wont get it. And Kururu wont be tuning him since she has this shy attitude (which is cute of course :p), plus Ikki based on whatever reasons has decided that he wont need a reg.
Also its important to notice that even if he is not a king but beats up a king that wont make him less :D on the countrary. If he shows that regs arent necessary to defeat a king than he can end their dominance over the AT world (Ringos fream btw which she cant achieve because...ahh nvm)
And regarding Kazu, he has much more speed than certain kings so the only thing he lacks is technic. Agito has the proper experiance to make the trick but his talent is not for that road which means that even if he got the flame regalia he wouldnt be able to use it better than Kazu...at least less efficiently.
Fredegart
08-24-2007, 10:18 PM
There's a long way to things get clear.
And you are right about the infinity atmosphere. I forgot about that. oO
So... I think maybe things will change between Ikki and Kururu... Ringo is getting far away even more since the return of Sleeping Forest and Kururu even with her shy attitude will captivate Ikki (i think already done it a little).
About the regs, well... Ikki has some potential and may be able to show us some good scenes, and maybe can win the gram scale without them...
And Kazu... this one cannot make feel ok about him...
He lacks technic like you said... but lacks talent too...
It seems that the only thing he can do it's run...
Spitfire sure show something when he fought against the takeuchi brothers...
Something that Kazu only dream to do...
vogirl
08-26-2007, 02:04 AM
this was such a good chapter..im so excited dude :]
Satralis
08-26-2007, 03:15 PM
exactly xD
maybe this should be moved to the Kazu the flame king thread ^^
penguinism
08-26-2007, 03:20 PM
agreed :P gonna lock this topic now since were on 171 anyway, ill merge the last few posts with that topic
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