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Satralis
08-04-2007, 06:08 PM
I just recently thought after the fact that Agito/Akito is a king of his road thus he owns the fang regalia and thats allright. BUT what i dont understand is the fact that Gabishi has an infinity atmosphere like kings and has a regalia like kings and rides the same road as Akito/Agito which makes one road 2 kings 2 regalias O.o... i just dont see how is this possible..any suggestions and explanations i would highly appritiate ^^

krompt
08-04-2007, 08:39 PM
That is the same thing i have been wondering, i think that the "Horn Regelia" (which Gabashi has) was not one of the Original eight and the Fang Regelia was. Maybe the Horn was a failed (or succeded) atempt to duplicate the Fang Regelia. They share almost similar abilities, but the bloody road is unique from the others, it carves the King's road on their enemy which means they cant be only one road with with people standing there to get Rode on. And it is not completely unheard of to share a road, though spitfire was the rightful heir to the flame road. Even though Aeon did not have a regelia he did share the road. A coincidence, maybe, but it's my opinion.

Satralis
08-04-2007, 08:45 PM
well i agree on the succeding part, it is possible, but eventhough Aeon shared the same road as Spitfire (which is trivial since everyone shares one of the 8 roads) but he wasnt a king nor had he a regalia O.o

krompt
08-04-2007, 08:51 PM
well i agree on the succeding part, it is possible, but eventhough Aeon shared the same road as Spitfire (which is trivial since everyone shares one of the 8 roads) but he wasnt a king nor had he a regalia O.o

Yeah that is completely true, Aeon hoped to be spitfire's succesor when he retired. Anyone can reach the road, they are simply trick when stated by Kazu;
"I have only seen this trick once, but i think i can do it"
So from that i guess the thorn regelia was built from scratch to mimic the Fang Regelia, it seems then the Horn King was a self given title. So it may open up to the possibility of Tuners being able to create regelia from scratch.

Satralis
08-04-2007, 08:56 PM
well considering that everyone awaits Kururu to make a new storm reaglia from scratch it does sound possible... and Nike has a new regalia too (not Killiks) so it must be possible. So basically the o-so-just SF simply copied an original regalia? pff

krompt
08-04-2007, 09:00 PM
well considering that everyone awaits Kururu to make a new storm reaglia from scratch it does sound possible... and Nike has a new regalia too (not Killiks) so it must be possible. So basically the o-so-just SF simply copied an original regalia? pff

Actually....
the regelia Nike has is Killik's or atleast part of it is. In further raws there is a flashback of when Killik betrayed Sora and Nike attacked him and took the gem regelia, then he gathered a few kings and started genesis.
And i think there is a chance that the Horn Regelia might have come from the other AT research place. You know when Killik spoke about it in the flash back, basically where Rika was from. I think that they might also be making Regelia's similar to the researchers that were at the bottom of the tower.

Satralis
08-04-2007, 09:04 PM
Rika was not from another research labs...the 3 kids were that Rika got from someone...and she got a 4th child too whos origin we dont know only that hes got tremendous amount of talent and some latent skills :D
But i dont think that Killik has any connections to other labs so Gabishi shouldnt have it from there but maybe... the manga could be lenghtened by years if there would be several "towers" and all had to be conquered though

krompt
08-04-2007, 09:07 PM
Yeah but the regelia she had was not from their tower so that leads belief that there was some other research and she had to be involved in it some how. And she and the 3 children she found were all gravity children from another research lab. Thats the only explination i have.
And back on topic i dont think you can really duplicate a regelia but simply add-on or better it.

Satralis
08-04-2007, 09:19 PM
or do it from scratch like u stated... well the fang uses the friction of the AT-floor while the Horn is using the ATs own inner friction and the air...so basically the secound one seems to be somewhat better...eventhough i think that Gabishi is someone supported by not only TTT...

krompt
08-04-2007, 09:23 PM
Well yeah there are other tuner teams besides TTT, i mean they are just the largest and well known, it is possiblr for him to have a diffrent tuner.

Satralis
08-04-2007, 09:32 PM
i never heared of otehr tuner teams O.o but Agito tunes himself so maybe there are other ways too... any ways i dont want this topic to go off-topic so unless theres something other to the original i wont post :p...maybe when the otherss make some decent post of their opinion too

krompt
08-04-2007, 09:33 PM
Yeah so we have come to a mutual pont on the topic for now.....-waits-

kageonizuka
08-14-2007, 01:34 AM
actually hes the horn king i read it on wikipedia and they get most of their stuff from the data books

Satralis
08-15-2007, 06:23 AM
it can be edited in any ways... if its possible they can make mistakes too.
But he really is the horn king, but he uses the bloody road or sg very similar thats why i dont know what to think... Is it just similar, or it is the same? (it seems like its the same cause their regalias properties are similar and their technice too)

kageonizuka
08-26-2007, 12:46 AM
yeah wikipedia can be edited in anyway but it has to be approved by the staff but yeah i dont remember what his road was called but i know hes the horn king and its the horn regalia for all i know its called horn road too or something but non the less gabishi kicks a*s

Satralis
08-26-2007, 02:23 PM
Well he kinda is the badass of SF...in a way

or all i know its called horn road too
The regalia never has the same name as the road.

And im still interested in what connection has Gabishi and Agito and their roads.

zxcvbn
08-26-2007, 03:27 PM
I think the relation between Agito and Gabishi's roads is similar to that between Ikki's and Sora's, except not that close. Both use the same principles, but in different ways. Gabishi's seems to be superior as he isn't bound to the ground to use his Regalia.

Gabishi's AT's name is 'Hatch Venom' and it seems to have originated outside the Trophaeum as the 'Horn King' title was not among the original 8 Kings.

Satralis
08-26-2007, 03:36 PM
most propably...although i think he had crosses too but i have to check it...
Gabishi is not bound to the ground but he can only unleash 1 shot at a time, and needs more time to do it...even if he does it so fast that it seems like an instant, but Agito can create multiple shots (Akira could) and needs less time. Well if we consider that Agito wanted a match in the forest with Gabishi than we can anticipate a quite intense battle later between them.

Raenef
08-26-2007, 11:14 PM
current Fang King & Horn King's regalia basically works on same principle. Storing Heat from excessive breaking, releasing it in different forms:
-Fang Regalia sends it out in a wide gust of wind.
-Horn Regalia sends it like a bullet in multiple (very fast..almost instataneous) kicks.
pretty similar theory imo. why categorized in 2 diff roads and make 2 diff kings? Fang King existed once, as a gravity child. Horn King came about in the same fashion as well. Agito only succeeded Farko.

XXXX
08-27-2007, 12:35 AM
Ikki is the same as Agito he can also make his own Ragalia thats why Agito want Kurura to stay way form him. If she makes his AT it will take away form his power..........

Satralis
08-27-2007, 12:56 AM
it propably came out in order to replace the fang road since they couldnt get their hands on the original regalia... Akira was too strong in his own castle with the 3000 rider at hand it would have been too much pain in the *** so i think they just created a very similar thing rather than admitting that its the same road and triing to attain the true regalia. Its a bad thing cause this way it would seems that all roads can attain a regalia (even Onigiries smell road lol) when it should be the regalias that determine the true roads...

Raenef
08-27-2007, 09:32 AM
the two roads arn't necessarily the same.

Horn Road....sounds corny...and not sure if that's even the road...coz the title of the king and their road's name differs [eg Thorn Queen - Sonia Road]. anyways..Horn Road..can do stuff that Bloody Road can't do. Remember when Kazu's luver~ was biking past Gabishi, and Gabishi's regalia was able to tear apart the bike without even moving. also Gabishi's road requires extremely fast kicks in order to activate it's regalia....and...that's about it.

zxcvbn
08-27-2007, 01:21 PM
it propably came out in order to replace the fang road since they couldnt get their hands on the original regalia... Akira was too strong in his own castle with the 3000 rider at hand it would have been too much pain in the *** so i think they just created a very similar thing rather than admitting that its the same road and triing to attain the true regalia.

It's possibe to create different regalia for the same/similar road. For example the new Thunder and Rumble Regalias, I believe, are very different from the originals, which were presumably destroyed after the destruction of the old Sleeping Forest.